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December 14, 2014

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Ohio_Cane

Bo Pelini to YSU. Random.

CaneRock


FSU runs primarily a 3-4 for one.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 16, 2014 at 11:44 AM

No they don't.

FSU runs a 4-2-5 (Nickle), and a 4-1-6 (Dime). Likewise with Duke, although they run more 4-2-5...Jeremy Cash is their version of Jalen Ramsey.

Ohio_Cane

DJ, either way, comparing our TFL vs FSU seems a bit pointless to me considering how much more talent they have in their front 7 than us (Denzel notwithstanding)

dj moonbat

DJ, either way, comparing our TFL vs FSU seems a bit pointless to me considering how much more talent they have in their front 7 than us (Denzel notwithstanding)

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 16, 2014 at 12:15 PM


Well, if our defense is significantly higher ranked, and their front 7 is that much better, are we really going to go that next step and say that our secondary is markedly better than FSU's? I dunno about that one.

Ohio_Cane

With the exception of U know who, our DB's are just as good, if not better than FSU's this year, IMO.

dj moonbat

With the exception of U know who, our DB's are just as good, if not better than FSU's this year, IMO.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 16, 2014 at 12:22 PM


Yeah, but look: if the front seven is massively better except for Perryman, and the secondary is "as good, if not better,' how on Earth does Miami end up with such better overall yardage numbers?

The point is, yeah, FSU has better athletes on the front seven. But they also are calling plays that USE those athletes more actively -- hence the higher TFL numbers, even though the yardage numbers are inferior.

CaneRock

LMAO! So now TFL & sacks is just a function of talent? Aren't ya'll always goin' on & on about this is the best defense we've fielded in a long time, but yet, the 2010 defense had over twice as many as TFL (115), and 12 more sacks (37) than this one. Miami 4-3 > than this BS @$$, SOF@$$ PSU defense...ALLLLL DAY!

#TEAMMIAMI4-3!

Ohio_Cane

I'm not responding to defend our coaching or play calling, just FYI. Only responding to the numbers posted.

1mg of Epi


There's nothing wrong with this scheme. You can argue it's too soft but most schools are running some variation of it.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 16, 2014 at 11:33 AM
"Some variation of it".... Exactly.

1mg of Epi

The base D really is a prevent. Al pretty much says it. I'd like to see evidence of the contrary.

dj moonbat

"Some variation of it".... Exactly.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 16, 2014 at 12:41 PM


At a high enough level of abstraction, ALL colleges run some variation of the same defense: 11 guys of differing sizes, lined up in layers to stop different kinds of plays.

The Dude

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 16, 2014 at 12:36 PM

One thing I might say about your comment that their front 7 is more talented; I think they (FSU) are deeper but the starting front 7 are pretty close.

Perryman, Armbrister, Grace and McCord are a better LB group than they have. I really wished Miami would have played Courtel more with Pierre at DE and Chick or Kamalu at the other spot, rotating in Thomas.

Miami's front 7 is plenty talented. 1 big difference between the way Bama plays their 3-4 and the way Miami plays is in the secondary. While Bama certainly has some similarities in their front 7, they always have a war-daddy at NT and their DEs shed blocks. In the secondary, Bama uses tall and athletic corners and plays really close, they jam and misdirect the WRs A LOT. I've seen them mostly play 1 deep safety, but I'm not sure how often they do that. Miami plays WAY off the WRs, WAY too often. So even if Miami does bring pressure, the QB always has a easy quick throw. Then there are just the inexcusable things that people have been documenting on twitter all year,5 safeties and such.

Ohio_Cane

Go watch this Denzel Perryman breakdown. Can get good slow-mo looks of our D, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuNic1iBedU

30CINCO

Well, if our defense is significantly higher ranked, and their front 7 is that much better, are we really going to go that next step and say that our secondary is markedly better than FSU's? I dunno about that one.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 16, 2014 at 12:18 PM
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Passing Defense
UM - 9th
FSU - 51st

Passing TD's Given Up
UM - 12
FSU - 20

Passer Rating Against
UM - 26th
FSU - 57th

UM's secondary looks better to me.

SinisterCane

Now compare their DL and LB's to ours.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 16, 2014 at 12:02 PM

Seriously dude it's coaching, our Dline has two 5* and the rest are 4*. How about I compare our TFL with Coastal Div. opponents. Will that get rid of that pointless taste out of you mouth,lol

1mg of Epi

Exactly ^

The Dude

Post eaten?

The Dude

Never mind, there it is.

The Dude

Posts are being slow.

1mg of Epi

Everybody runs different fronts, stunts, coverages and blitzes. Our coaching staff appears to run situationally deficient schemes.

jsy

U know if the late great Sean t was recruited and played under golden would he have been the player he was despite the prevent the win defense or would he have been just sitting on the bench for freestyling?

Go Canes

Who are the 5 stars and 4 stars?

30CINCO

U know if the late great Sean t was recruited and played under golden would he have been the player he was despite the prevent the win defense or would he have been just sitting on the bench for freestyling?

Posted by: jsy | December 16, 2014 at 01:09 PM
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Golden would have started Fentress over him just to spite Canespace, he would never see the field.

UMike

lol 30

Go Canes

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 16, 2014 at 01:12 PM

Yep!

SinisterCane

Posted by: Go Canes | December 16, 2014 at 01:11 PM

Chick/Thomas 5* and the resdt are 4*

SinisterCane

Regarding the stat comparison, what I'm try to show is everybody playing to win by taking more chances while we're play not to lose

30CINCO

5* DT from CA interested in UM?

Not looking at wins, must be looking at the 10 players who are getting NFL grades and wants to be the first DT to get in on that, plus looking help improve a top 14 total defensive squad.

#businessdecision

Ohio_Cane

How much did Chad Thomas play this year? Significant minutes? I don't remember seeing him a ton.

jsy

did any of u guys watch booker t destroy norcross from ga I did and I remember thinking after that game how much of a stud chad was and how much of a scrub Lorenzo carter was and then chad goes to dominate summer camps and all star practices against the best in the country then he has ZERO sacks but guys like Lorenzo carter have multiple sacks and made a big impact. How is that possible? Do our defensive recruits forget to play defense ? What can explain that? It's almost like our defensive staff is like the raiders organization just destined to fail

CaneRock

Yeah, BUSINESS DECISION...I ain't stutta. Just like Torrance Gibson made a BUSINESS DECISION, when He threw the U hat at His Momma LMAO!

#BUSINESSDECISION

jsy

When chad and Lorenzo carter played on ESPN chad dominated and lorenzo looked like a scrub then freshman year chad does nothing but Lorenzo shines. thats the process the golden one is selling

Ohio_Cane

Manny Navarro ‏@Manny_Navarro 5m5 minutes ago Coral Gables, FL

Kaaya said players discussing being part of The U Part 3. "I didn't come here to go to Club Liv. I came to win championships." #UM

SinisterCane

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 16, 2014 at 01:23 PM

http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=28700&ATCLID=209517236

Cool story Bro' CT played in 11 games

Go Canes

That list I saw earlier had one senior (Chik), one junior (McCord) and the rest were either freshmen, redshirts or suspended (AQM).

That's what's being compared to FSU's d-line?

I'm honestly just curious.

AeroCane

Our coaches suck - move on!

CaneRock


Do our defensive recruits forget to play defense ? What can explain that?

Posted by: jsy | December 16, 2014 at 01:28 PM

In the case of Chad, they get back spasms trying to throw around 300+LB OTs, instead of using their God given ability to run by em'...that's why.

Ohio_Cane

Duke on ZERO All-American lists.... LOL

Ohio_Cane

http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=28700&ATCLID=209517236

Cool story Bro' CT played in 11 games

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 16, 2014 at 01:36 PM
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No need to be a jerk, it was a serious question, bro.

Ohio_Cane

Oh, and "played in" and "significant minutes" (which is what I asked about) are 2 completely different things...

30CINCO

Posted by: CaneRock | December 16, 2014 at 01:31 PM
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I believe you. Buddy saw it was bad business waiting behind Kaaya.

SinisterCane

No need to be a jerk, it was a serious question, bro.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 16, 2014 at 01:45 PM

Didn't mean for it to come off that way, no harm no foul

UMike

I saw Thomas quite a bit, but IDK how many snaps he played in comparison to other DE's

CaneRock


I believe you. Buddy saw it was bad business waiting behind Kaaya.

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 16, 2014 at 01:47 PM

Nahhhh...buddy saw that Urban can win with 3rd string QBs, while our coach..."night games".

Ohio_Cane

Manny Navarro ‏@Manny_Navarro 2m2 minutes ago South Miami, FL

Kaaya on bowl game: "In some ways [its the start of 2015], but we still have to win it for the guys graduating and declaring." #UM

^^ Pretty telling statement that someone is declaring early and they all know who that is.

CaneRock

McCord sent His name to the draft advisory board.

Go Canes

Chad probably got 20-30 snaps in half the games he played in if I had to guess.

I don't think he was quite right in the middle of the middle of the year.

1mg of Epi

UM's secondary looks better to me.

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 16, 2014 at 01:04 PM

Nobody bothers to pass against us. They don't have to. That's our gameplam

CaneRock


Nobody bothers to pass against us. They don't have to. That's our gameplam

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 16, 2014 at 01:59 PM

Yep.

30CINCO

Nahhhh...buddy saw that Urban can win with 3rd string QBs, while our coach..."night games".

Posted by: CaneRock | December 16, 2014 at 01:49 PM
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Dam, buddy saw that even BEFORE that happened?

You should hang out with him more often, improve your prediction making.


Seriously, is DUMASS! even aware of the last time we've had a TRUE FRESHMAN QB!, win in Blacksburg... Loud,cold, & possibly wet Blacksburg...LMAO!
Posted by: CaneRock | September 02, 2014 at 12:31 PM

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