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December 01, 2014

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SJMPARMAN

Jekiri has really developed into a nice big man. I never thought he would do so. Proud of him.

laquinton

I've never been to Coral Gables.. but I always read that they don't have the space. Some tropical park area I think was mentioned by Donna days ago..

Zo said it's to build a better Hecht center.

KYcane

Here's a list of coaches not name Golden or Dno that should be relieved of their duties or demoted.

#1 Paul Williams - fire ASAP...Agree 1000% Maybe move Hurlie to Dbacks

#2 Jethro Franklin - fire ASAP...Agree again - thoughts on Kareem Brown moving into his position?

#3 Brennan Carroll...not able to comment on this since I did not watch WR's as closely - maybe some of the issue was Kaaya, not knocking him but maybe didn't make the 2nd & 3rd reads as quickly.

Posted by: Jmj56Ace | December 02, 2014 at 09:39 PM

#4 Don Soldinger...LB's & Special Teams. Not known as the world beater in recruiting but gets results.

JMO

Ohio_Cane

WWIM, Dalvin also wasn't penciled in as a Cane since 8th grade. Nor was he a lifelong Canes fan.

Yes, there are exceptions to that (Michel), but I don't see it happening with him. He's this years Duke Johnson, not last years Sony Michel.

Ohio_Cane

Canes up 8, 38.5 left

Ohio_Cane

Canes up 10

dj moonbat

I've never been to Coral Gables.. but I always read that they don't have the space. Some tropical park area I think was mentioned by Donna days ago..

Posted by: laquinton | December 02, 2014 at 10:56 PM


All forms of exuberant human expression are unlawful in Coral Gables. A stadium is out. The U may find a better arrangement than the one they've got now -- it couldn't get much worse, right? -- but it will almost inevitably involve sharing space with one or more other teams.

Go Canes

Totally agree SJM, he was raw as raw can be. Larranaga has done a great, great job helping him developing his game.

Ohio_Cane

Angel to the line, up 10. 20.5 left. It's a wrap. We 8-0.

Ohio_Cane

70-61, FINAL! Canes win!

First 8-0 start since 2009.

O-L Cane

Word on the street is:
Chud HC
Walsh OC
Dorsey QBC
If there is a GOD...........

Go Canes

Once the reno is done a state of the art Sunlife Stadium will be far less of a disadvantage it's been historically.

Go Canes

Posted by: O-L Cane | December 02, 2014 at 11:03 PM

That street must run right through fantasyland.

canesteeler

Coach L getting it done!

Go Canes

Good win for the Canes. Going to be a really fun season.

mi@mic@ne

I am really impressed by the athleticism of the canes and the depth of the bench...weve got some ringers on this team

SJMPARMAN

JRS or Sunlife, can get loud when full. But when it is not, it hurt having sideline fans thirty yards from the field. At OB, you couldn't hear when the crowd got up for a play. Let an OL false start and it got ridiculous loud. Never heard anything like that at JRS. I am looking forward to them re-configuring it for all football. It will make a difference.

The Dude

I'm not mad at Go Canes for keeping his season tickets. Alums do that kind of thing, even when your school stops being a football school like Miami has. It's sad because Miami has so many natural advantages, you have to actually try to not win there to get where they have fallen to.

laquinton

I thought Brennan did a good job this year with the recievers. Just seems like they vanished after a good game. Coley was gone this year and that was a great question by Joe Rose.. something was up with him. Herb had a good game vs UL at the end. Berrios had flashes both good and bad..

Jethro should be gone and well as Paul Williams

Chance Womack

Jekiri slowly but surely is becoming a force. Beautiful.

TonyCane

Hurricanes over last twenty years, average points scored, points allowed:

1994: 30 12
1995: 27 18
1996: 31 18
1997: 29 26
1998: 37 25
1999: 33 17
2000: 42 16
2001: 43 10
2002: 41 19
2003: 28 15
2004: 32 17
2005: 27 15
2006: 20 15
2007: 21 26
2008: 27 24
2009: 30 22
2010: 26 21
2011: 27 20
2012: 31 31
2013: 34 27
2014: 30 24

Another interesting stat...
Hurricanes record first 4 games vs last four regular season games:

1994: 4-0, 3-1
1995: 1-3, 4-0
1996: 4-0, 3-1
1997: 1-3, 2-2
1998: 3-1, 3-1
1999: 2-2, 3-1
2000: 3-1, 4-0
2001: 4-0, 4-0
2002: 4-0, 4-0
2003: 4-0, 3-1
2004: 4-0, 2-2
2005: 3-1, 3-1
2006: 2-2, 1-3
2007: 2-2, 0-4
2008: 2-2, 2-2
2009: 3-1, 3-1
2010: 3-1, 2-2
2011: 2-2, 2-2
2012: 3-1, 3-1
2013: 4-0, 2-2
2014: 2-2, 1-3

SJMPARMAN

These early wins will be crucial for our tourney hopes. Lets say we go into ACC play 14-0. We go 9-7 in the league. 23-7 looks pretty good for an NCAA invite. I think we can do much better than that but that is the floor. This team can beat anyone on any given night.

SJMPARMAN

TonyCane

Your first list was the most compelling. Look at the last 8 years in terms of points allowed and look at all the years preceding it. Teens versus mid to high twenties or thirty. Bottom line for me. You have to get the big uglies on defense. The beasts. The guys running backs fear to run up the middle against. We haven't had that in a long, long time.

laquinton

## Former UM coach Howard Schnellenberger, who has watched a couple of UM practices and speaks with Golden occasionally, believes in Golden and likes how he runs practice but told me: “If you’re not winning, you can’t skin the cat the same way.… He needs to recalibrate and find a different way. You have to come up with something that would be new and different and positive.”


Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2014/12/trustees-express-frustration-with-golden-state-of-program-golden-speaks-out-dolphins-chatter.html#storylink=cpy

Hmm

The Dude

All football news should be projected as how the kid will help the next coach, like this: JaQuan signed his financial aid agreement, I'm stoked this kid will be here in 2016 after the new president fires Al Golden and Blake James and The Dude becomes a fan again because they hire a real football coach and care about winning again.

jcane

Angel wasn't on tonight, hitting 2-9 and 1-5 from beyond the arc. No problem. In comes Burnett to pick up the slack. McClellan continues to impress, and clearly wants to be a highlight reel. Every Illini run the U would counter with a run of their own rather than letting Illinois catch them in the second half. Are there areas to improve? Absolutely. I'd like to see better offensive rebounding, although with a lot of funny bounces with long 3s, well...harder to do. However, I often wasn't seeing much effort on these boards, leading to some Illini breaks. Some guys are still raw and improving, although as said earlier, Jekiri has showed major improvement, even since last year. He's becoming quite the garbageman, picking up the scraps for a few strong easy buckets. The team shows a lot of discipline, a lot of trust in using a team approach, doesn't turn the ball over much, and should continue to improve as more players return. BTW, props to Norland from providing us Burnett and Duke!

Agreed with SMJ bigtime. If we get through the pre conference schedule undefeated, and likely the only big test there is Providence, probably 500 in ACC play will be good enough, as long as 500 includes a few quality wins (ie can't get run over by every top 25 ACC team while just beating the FSUs in the schedule). It's looking more and more like a 23-24 W mark could be had if they keep growing and avoid the injury bug.

Night all.

1mg of Epi

Posted by: WWIM | December 02, 2014 at 10:39 PM
Great logic.
Posted by: Go Canes | December 02, 2014 at 10:46 PM

There is no logic at all in blind loyalty. None.

Ohio_Cane

Looking like Jim McElwain will be FU's next HC.

Ohio_Cane

Are U guys arguing over whether or not another person should or should not buy season tix?

Good grief.

Canes hoops is Undefeated. Talk about that instead.

SJMPARMAN

Blind loyalty isn't necessarily illogical and most who have some form of blind loyalty have that because they have some form of love for the person or thing they are passionate about. It can get ya in some tricky situations for sure but it can also get you places you never been before. Just sayin. Life isn't a one size, shape, color, pattern - to each their own.

1mg of Epi


Once the reno is done a state of the art Sunlife Stadium will be far less of a disadvantage it's been historically.
Posted by: Go Canes | December 02, 2014 at 11:03 PM

This I agree with

1mg of Epi

If blind loyalty were logical, they wouldn't have to use preface "loyalty" with "blind"

The Dude

Anyone know who's in the running for the presidency? Is George Clinton still an option?

1mg of Epi

How can there be any other option???

Ohio_Cane

If UM is going to stand by Golden and not force his hand on D'No, I can see Al making a couple changes after the bowl game.

I'd like to see Paul Williams gone, as well as Uncle Jethro. 2 positions that need some new blood.

TonyCane

The Rock should be the next president,

The Dude

If UM is going to stand by Golden and not force his hand on D'No, I can see Al making a couple changes after the bowl game.

I'd like to see Paul Williams gone, as well as Uncle Jethro. 2 positions that need some new blood.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 03, 2014 at 12:11 AM

Seriously, why would you change anything when they are doing exactly as Al wants them to? Al thinks his staff is great. He thinks his scheme is great. He thinks he is great. What would bringing in anyone in short of a new DC do whens Al is the guy that runs the scheme with Mark? You could have Pete Carroll coaching the DBs and guess what? Same old sh*t.

Go Canes, what makes you think Al will be gone with another 6-6 season next year? Miami's administration signed him up until 2019. Is the contract somehow easier to swallow a year later?

Miami is making its relationship with its fans toxic by not making a move. The Canes will be booed relentlessly next year, Al will have things thrown at him. Every home game will have banners, they're going to get ripped in the bowl games too.

WWIN

Posted by: WWIM | December 02, 2014 at 10:39 PM

Great logic.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 02, 2014 at 10:46 PM

Great logic supporting everything they do and expecting em to make a change! Oh that's right you don't want any changes, that's why you send all your family to fsu!

WWIN

Posted by: 86Cane | December 02, 2014 at 10:43 PM

What did I say that was stupid?

If everybody keeps going to the games and buying merchandise like normal do you think UM will ever make any changes? NO

Habane

Lost a legend in Hockey .RIP Jean Beliveau....will never find a classier athlete and gentleman

WWIN

If UM is going to stand by Golden and not force his hand on D'No, I can see Al making a couple changes after the bowl game.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 03, 2014 at 12:11 AM

C'mon now, you know soft Al has NEVER fired anybody!

#TrueStory

WWIN

Support Canespace!

Not soft dudes!

#DonationButton

The Dude

I'm hoping this was just Blake giving Al the vote of confidence before they fire him because they're working out a deal with Butch and will announce Friday.

The Dude

When should we file the paperwork WW? Before or after bowl game. I'm already rooting for any team that is playing an Al Golden team so I can keep hearing how ridiculous he is as a HC. Should I give the admin a week? 2 weeks?

The Dude

I want the hatred for Al to be so hot that it burns down the admin building. I want people raging on the phones. Flying banners at every game. If The U wants to destroy the program, then the fans need to stop their BS by making Al's life a living hell.

WWIN

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
We'll give em till the 15th of this month. Then we'll file if no changes are made

The Dude

Thank you. Seriously hiring an agent has been the best move I ever made.

WWIN

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Glad to be of service!

360Cane

I hope it sticks! FSU vs. Bama. []_[]

UMike

Glad to see JJ is sticking with the Canes... no doubt in my mind he will be the best backpedaling safety to come out of Miami in years

Go Canes

Posted by: WWIM | December 03, 2014 at 12:31 AM

Save your ridiculous way of thinking for someone else, really.

UMike

Go Canes, in one way or another we all have a ridiculous way of thinking about something... you are just as guilty as him, and so am I lol

Go Canes

And with regards to FSU, not that an ignoramus like you deserves an explanation, my daughter was such a fine student after her prepaid and academic grants she was actually able to make money going to FSU.

At UM it would have cost me tens of thousands of dollars per year. She made that decision on her own and I respected it.

So please do me and everyone else a favor and stfu up about how I should or shouldn't spend my money, especially when you haven't spent a thing ever, win or lose, to support this team or program ever.

Go Canes

Posted by: UMike | December 03, 2014 at 06:59 AM

UMIke do you think any fans at Nebraska, South Carolina, Notre Dame, Penn State, Florida, Georgia, Texas A&M, Texas, Tennessee or any other big time school are giving up their tickets after a disappointing season or several seasons?

1mg of Epi

Posted by: WWIM | December 03, 2014 at 12:31 AM

Save your ridiculous way of thinking for someone else, really.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 03, 2014 at 06:55 AM

Why is it ridiculous to think supporting the dumpster fire allows it to continue to rage? Of course it will. Canes football is the only business not beholden to market forces?

They're counting on us to purchase on emotion from here on out. There is no doubt canes football is dead under golden. There is no guarantee he is gone next year either. To just accept what this program has become is not an option to me. Is this the canes football you fell in love with? Is this the canes football you can't wait to see every Saturday? No of course it isn't.. So do whatever u can to try and bring it back. Anything is better than just shelling out more money as we fall further and further behind the pack.

We are a BAD ACC team for gods sake.

1mg of Epi

UMIke do you think any fans at Nebraska, South Carolina, Notre Dame, Penn State, Florida, Georgia, Texas A&M, Texas, Tennessee or any other big time school are giving up their tickets after a disappointing season or several seasons?

Posted by: Go Canes | December 03, 2014 at 07:21 AM

Did any of these schools keep their coach after finishing LAST on the ACC? C'mon bro... Really??

UMike

UMIke do you think any fans at Nebraska, South Carolina, Notre Dame, Penn State, Florida, Georgia, Texas A&M, Texas, Tennessee or any other big time school are giving up their tickets after a disappointing season or several seasons?

Posted by: Go Canes | December 03, 2014 at 07:21 AM

Yes, I believe some would, but we have sucked for a decade now. Every school you mentioned has put the effort in to win, not Miami. Miami has choose to keep a lame duck coach who will never win big here, while all the schools you mentioned have made moves to try and win.

Im can certainly understand why someone would not want to spend their hard earned money while the school shows no interest in winning.

Go Canes

Really?

If they had or hadnt none of them, and I mean none of them would have given up their tickets. Not one.

There would just be another 50,000 people in line to take them.

Only this fan base fills a stadium up halfway every week and has more people who never spend a penny going to games or supporting the team demanding everyone from the ball boys to the school president be fired.

Give me a break, please.

UMike

Go Canes...so not you can speak for every single fan at every big time college program? And why do you ALWAYS resort to "spending money" as if that is the only thing than makes someone a fan?

1mg of Epi

That's BS... First of are U really trying to compare any of these situations to the U? You have schools that have fired their coaches, schools with new coaches and schools with coaches who have proven track records. We have none of that. We have a coach who has failed. Consistently failed.

Did you see the empty seats at the big house? Did you hear the promotion where the AD was blasted for giving away tix w the purchase of a soda bottle? None of those schools will support losing from the top down... Which is why they make changes when it becomes apparent it's necessary.

You're misguided to think fandom here is any different than anywhere else.

UMike

I do agree other schools would have people waiting to take up tickets, but that has never been Miami and never will. But Im sure if the program showed no interest in change or winning and just finished 6-6 an dead last in the weak ass coastal, some fans would choose not to spend their money or energy on the program, at least for a while.

1mg of Epi

Only this fan base fills a stadium up halfway every week and has more people who never spend a penny going to games or supporting the team demanding everyone from the ball boys to the school president be fired.

Give me a break, please.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 03, 2014 at 07:29 AM

You're talking to people who DO spend money... Well, USED TO spend money. The only voice we have is our wallets. This is NOT hurricanes football anymore.

UMike

Since I live in TN I cant always spend my money, but I dam sure spend (and waste) my energy and emotions. I have more important ways to use my energy and emotion these days, no need to waste it on a program that simple doesnt care. I will root for the kids as always, but it doesnt mean I will will rearrange my whole weekend to make sure I watch a game on Saturdays in the Fall.

1mg of Epi

BTW that article in the Herald laquinton posted sure makes the BOT sound pretty weak. It says they have to try and talk BJ into making a change... Interesting how the fans perspective on power at the U is completely wrong. Apparently.

1mg of Epi

Exactly U mike.

UMike

FSU got rid of a legend, the guy who built the program into a winner, one of the greatest coaches ever in order to win, yet Miami wont fire a guy that cant even win the coastal.

1mg of Epi

I will say this... At least when AG has players accused of rape their held accountable. What's going on in tally is repulsive. I'd rather be .500 then ride a rapists back to a NC.

CaneRock

Going to games will not make Al Golden a better coach...and it certainly isn't gonna make up for all those stud SoFlo D-Linemen that we've lost...EVER.

Get some new material, you're still not changing minds.

Go Canes

UMikeI always go back to supporting the team because that is what it's all about, money.

Every person who considers themselves a fan and doesn't buy season tickets and can afford it, every person who doesn't go to the games but can afford it, every person who can donate to the hurricane club and hasn't is more responsible for the situation this program is in today that anyone else.

Before the recent phenomenon of these massive TV deals other schools were raising the millions for their programs to keep up with the competition. State of the art weight rooms, top-of-the-line facilities and dorms don't get billed for free. They were built from them money raised from ticket sales and donations.

Nebraska, Penn State, Michigan, South Carolina, Texas A&M and many other schools who havent sniffed success in longer than we have, if ever, yet drop 80,000 a night and have raised God only knows how much more than we have.

All the while we are putting 30,000-40,000 in the stands no matter how good or bad we are.

Someone said it best yesterday on the radio, I think it was Crowder, UM is a mom-and-pop grocery store competing against Walmart.

Part of it is booster money of course, but a much bigger reason for the disparity is the quarter of a million people less UM put in the stands year in and year out.

UMike

Every person who considers themselves a fan and doesn't buy season tickets and can afford it, every person who doesn't go to the games but can afford it, every person who can donate to the hurricane club and hasn't is more responsible for the situation this program is in today that anyone else.


Posted by: Go Canes | December 03, 2014 at 08:01 AM

This may be perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever read on Canespace.

1mg of Epi

This may be perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever read on Canespace.

Posted by: UMike | December 03, 2014 at 08:09 AM

Truth

SinisterCane

Is Al Golden still FAILING all over Coral Gables?

CaneRock


Going to games will not make Al Golden a better coach...and it certainly isn't gonna make up for all those stud SoFlo D-Linemen that we've lost...EVER.

Get some new material, you're still not changing minds.

CaneRock

UMike...besides the football team, what other connection do you have to UM?

UMike

CR, none. I mean, does growing up in Miami count?

UMike

When I was a kid my grandmother watched every Canes and Dolphins game, and if we were in the car it was on the radio. That is how I became a fan. I did have an uncle that worked at the OB when I was a kid...thats about it lol

Go Canes

You guys really don't get it. Which is sad.

This isn't a Golden thing.

Golden is failing, there is no doubt about it.

But a 30 year record of piss poor fan support and donations got us to this failure. He is just the icing on the cake.

UMike

Yea, were sad... cause were the ones blaming the fans for the programs failure smmfh!

UMike

I guess all the success was because fans like you, but all the failures are because fans like me? I apologize guys... its all my fault.

UMike

I guess since Golden is staying the next logical thing to do is blame the fans.

SinisterCane

But a 30 year record of piss poor fan support and donations got us to this failure. He is just the icing on the cake.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 03, 2014 at 08:29 AM


Even if the fans have been Piss poor in the support of the team "your opinion", why does it only seem to affect Golden?

SinisterCane

Blame the Blame the players, Hmmmmmmmmmm?

UMike

Blame cloud, blame players, blame facilities, blame stadium and when all else fails, blame the fans.

1mg of Epi

But a 30 year record of piss poor fan support and donations got us to this failure. He is just the icing on the cake.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 03, 2014 at 08:29 AM

I am not comparing the importance of academics w athletics, so don't hit me w that, but how is it such a tiny school became such an academic powerhouse? Because the admin put a focus on it. The athletic dept should have been tasked w reaching the same level of excellence. They have not been. Why do ADs keep leaving? The athletic dep has not been told to be champions, and it's not just me saying this.

Go Canes

It hasn't affected just Golden.

I really respect Butch as a coach, everyone knows that.

But because he captured lightning in a bottle over a three-year period, it doesn't take away from the fact it is the only success this program has had in 20 years running.

You guys can sarcastically laugh at what I'm saying, but the reality is you need to spend huge dollars if you want to succeed consistently in college football today.

How do you do that? Massive attendance, huge booster donations and a big TV deal.

Notre Dame, the only other private school like ours that's been relevant like us for the last 30 years has all three.

How many do we have?

SinisterCane

^^^^^^^^

Blame the player Blame the fans? Hmmmmm?

Go Canes

I've said it before. 0-11 or 11-0 I'm there. Golden stays, Goldrn goes I'm there.

But if you guys think him leaving is going to solve the problem, you haven't even figured out what the question is.

Ohio_Cane

U

SinisterCane

You guys can sarcastically laugh at what I'm saying, but the reality is you need to spend huge dollars if you want to succeed consistently in college football today.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 03, 2014 at 08:47 AM

I agree with this 100% but Big Money Donna and her billion movement has hasn't done nothing for the U.

SinisterCane

^^^^^
Donna has marketed and thrown up tha U more than all the former football players combine and gives nothing back to the U

UMike

Whenever I wanna feel like less of a fan, or just blame dumb, all I have to do is come here and listen to Go Canes. He is clearly so much smarter than the rest of us and a much bigger fan.

trianglecane

Don't know if I'm a day late and a dollar short, but here you go.

Trustee's Frustrated

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2014/12/trustees-express-frustration-with-golden-state-of-program-golden-speaks-out-dolphins-chatter.html

1mg of Epi

I've said it before. 0-11 or 11-0 I'm there. Golden stays, Goldrn goes I'm there.
But if you guys think him leaving is going to solve the problem, you haven't even figured out what the question is.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 03, 2014 at 08:50 AM

They have one equalizer... A pool of local talent. $ might explain why bama beat us in a orange bowl game but not why Pitt beat us at home. It's the coaching. Nobody expects a run like the 80s but c'mon!!

Ohio_Cane

Alabama DB Michael Jackson-Kerr got bumped up to a 4*

Go Canes

I agree it's coaching Epi.

But that's only a part of what has gotten us to this point today.

That is also undeniable.

And sinister you talk about that billion-dollar endowment a lot. Do you think people give millions of dollars to the school and say use it however you want? Those gifts are specifically earmarked for the medical law and other programs specifically agreed to by donors.

Do you really think these big dollar people want to use their massive donations to pay off the football coaches contract?

trianglecane

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 03, 2014 at 09:01 AM

His offer from burn bama will is in the mail.

you're welcome mikey.

Ohio_Cane

His offer from burn bama will is in the mail.

you're welcome mikey.

Posted by: trianglecane | December 03, 2014 at 09:10 AM
--------------------------------------------

Huh?

trianglecane

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 03, 2014 at 09:14 AM

Kids commit to the U- their stock rises.. then the go to the sec...

burn bama = Auburn and Alabama.

SinisterCane

Posted by: Go Canes | December 03, 2014 at 09:10 AM

Then why not start a fundraiser specifically for sports, example: better living quarters, weight rooms, etc.

Go Canes

I'd gladly donate.

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