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December 31, 2014

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HawaiiCane

First!!!

HawaiiCane

#BringButchBack is my NYE wish!

j.w.

Dos

86Cane

Tres

86Cane

Who is in?

Terrance
KYCane
Old Skool
Harry Miller
86Cane

Who got next?

CaneRock

Barry:

### Inside linebacker: Kiper and McShay have none in their top 20. Mississippi State junior Benardrick McKinney, who is reportedly likely to turn pro, is rated 24th by Kiper. “Love the length and the range,” Kiper said.

Kiper said McKinney, who’s 6-5 and 250, “can be effective in the middle and on the edge: His versatility is driven by what a special athlete he is. He's going to run as fast as many running backs and jump as high as some good wide receivers."

### FYI: McShay has UM’s Denzel Perryman 32nd in his mock draft.

### Running back: McShay has Wisconsin’s Melvin Gordon 23rd and Todd Gurley (off a torn ACL) 29th. But running backs tend to slip and with Lamar Miller’s emergence, it would be very surprising if Miami took a back high.But if UM’s Duke Johnson slips to the third round --- which Kiper believes is possible --- he certainly would be worth considering.

### Cassandra Prophet Mitchell, Duke Johnson’s mother, created a stir on Facebook by saying “the majority of the team would not be there” if players could transfer without sitting out a year and that “kids [are] tired of this crap.”

Told Tuesday that her comments could be perceived as a shot at Al Golden and the UM staff, Mitchell declined to clarify what she meant and said she wouldn’t be commenting on the matter.

### Jedd Fisch, who left UM two years ago to become the Jaguars' offensive coordinator, was fired Tuesday because of philosophical differences with coach Gus Bradley regarding the development of Blake Bortles. Bradley thought Fisch was overloading Bortles with too much information at once.

Both Al Golden and the UM administration like Fisch but there's obviously no opening here. Several reports have speculated that offensive coordinator James Coley might become a candidate for the same job at Georgia. Coley declined overtures from Kentucky earlier this month.


VA Cane

The only stats that matter in my eyes are the W's and L's and we ended on a 4 game losing streak!!!!

That is unacceptable!!! 4 Muthaf@#$ing losses in a goddamn row? GTFOH with this shyt......

Now that is REALITY!!!! Really....you AlPa lovers are blind....I don't give a damn about stats!!!! You can quote all the #s you want and defend the man....he loses way too much...is full of excuses and is a pulling the wool over many eyes....I think he and the whole supposed leadership are satisfied with average...or worse....cause they relish in it...and keep making excuses!!!! They got you hooked like a smallmouth bass on a treble hook!!!

Heres a # for you put it in your needle and shoot it!!!!

96-3 6 of last 8 SBs out of 32 schools.....my kids 13-14 are far superior fundamentally, aggressively, schematically and skillwise than any team AlPa has ever coached. Stick that in your brainwashed mind and loudmouth jaw and blow it baby!!!!!! Woooooooooooo!!!!!

Terrance Sullivan

Soup I can't wait my Brotha. So pumped for this.

Old Skool

Okay the fishing trip has my ears perked up.

SinisterCane

Good morning Spacers and EFF U Golden supporters

1mg of Epi

There is HUGE difference between believing something to be true, and wanting something to be true. This is true.

"Cassandra Prophet Mitchell, Duke Johnson’s mother, created a stir on Facebook by saying “the majority of the team would not be there” if players could transfer without sitting out and that “kids [are] tired of this crap.”

Told Tuesday that her comments could be perceived as a shot at Al Golden and the staff, Mitchell declined to clarify what she meant and said he wouldn’t be commenting on the matter."
Read more here:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sport...#storylink=cpy

1mg of Epi

If Al Golden is given 2015 with his 6-7 record what makes anyone believe he wouldn't be given 2016 in similar circumstances? What possible difference does one year on a contract make? Especially if Al got the gravy deal. Also, it's not like Miami has no idea who they could get now. There is a PERFECT opportunity to hire an ace HC right now and they are passing it up. That should tell anyone everything they need to know about what Miami's bottom line is all about.

Posted by: The Dude | December 31, 2014 at 01:31 AM

What I've been saying for a few weeks. 8-4,7-5 he's back. 6-6 likely w a bowl win he's back.

1) No headlines
2) Players graduate
3) Bowl game

The reason for the lack of movement is not $, the cloud or a new prez. It is all a matter of expectations.

raizecane

Another day and no word on ANY coaching changes.......this is pathetic.

Go Canes

Any time I can laugh at a Gator, it's a great way to start my day.

@SportsCenter: ICYMI: What an ending! Florida State wins at the buzzer when Florida defender tips ball into his own hoop. http://t.co/8bnrD7QxR5

Go Canes

Soup I'd love to join you all for part of your weekend, perhaps a baseball or basketball game.

Go Canes

@DarrenHeitner: Former UM coach Randy Shannon will be recruiting coordinator LB coach at Florida (via @Brody_IAKOW)

1mg of Epi

Lets assume that the impossible happens and Al fires his coordinators, brings in Jed (or someone good) who calls his own plays and a D coordinator whose given the latitude to install a new system. Is that enough to shut us up?

SinisterCane

Posted by: Go Canes | December 31, 2014 at 08:31 AM


You know CaneSpace hate both teams but thanks for the posting FSU/FU news.


#FSU win makes me happy

1mg of Epi

@DarrenHeitner: Former UM coach Randy Shannon will be recruiting coordinator LB coach at Florida (via @Brody_IAKOW)

Posted by: Go Canes | December 31, 2014 at 08:34 AM

Didn't randy supposedly burn his recruiting bridges when he was HC?

Go Canes

Lol /\/\/\

Lighten up Sinister, it was funny.

SinisterCane

I'll Google it and check it out

dj moonbat

Lets assume that the impossible happens and Al fires his coordinators, brings in Jed (or someone good) who calls his own plays and a D coordinator whose given the latitude to install a new system. Is that enough to shut us up?

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 08:36 AM


I'd probably watch the games. I always liked the wacky things Jedd Fisch did.

The real question is whether, after a year of that, we would give them 2016. Because everybody knows that there's going to be kinks in year one of a new system...

30CINCO

@DarrenHeitner: Former UM coach Randy Shannon will be recruiting coordinator LB coach at Florida (via @Brody_IAKOW)

Posted by: Go Canes | December 31, 2014 at 08:34 AM
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First 2 years Randy as HC, did great at recruiting. Last 2 years, not so much.

Will be really weird seeing him in the gator colors.

dj moonbat

First 2 years Randy as HC, did great at recruiting. Last 2 years, not so much.

Will be really weird seeing him in the gator colors.

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 31, 2014 at 09:53 AM


It's hard to recruit when your team can't win. Randy couldn't win enough to keep the kids away from Urban Meyer.

So we better hope that McElwain is a failure at UF. Because I think Randy will have no trouble recruiting kids from Dade if UF starts winning early.

30CINCO

The 3rd year was when Randy had his most wins. You would think that after that year, you would be able to recruit as well as the previous years which were worse in the W/L column.

The class that came in after his 3rd year was the worst one as far as production goes.

Go Canes

His hiring as recruiting coordinator being met with a lot of yawns on Twitter, which I found surprising. Saw these as a retweet. Don't know if accurate.

@JGJr9: This is the same Randy Shannon that once signed 7 WRs and 0 CBs. That’s what you want in a recruiting coordinator?

From 08 to 10, Randy signed 4 CBs. 2 of which busted out of school in a year. In a 3 year span Randy brought in 2 useful CBs. Think about it

dj moonbat

The 3rd year was when Randy had his most wins. You would think that after that year, you would be able to recruit as well as the previous years which were worse in the W/L column.

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 31, 2014 at 10:08 AM


Except that by then, UF had turned into a juggernaut.

CaneRock

Randy & T-Rob vs Williams & D'Onofrio...booooooooy, it's a looooooong way till Februrary.

30CINCO

Except that by then, UF had turned into a juggernaut.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 31, 2014 at 10:15 AM
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Kinda like FSU

SOUP

Soup I'd love to join you all for part of your weekend, perhaps a baseball or basketball game.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 31, 2014 at 08:33 AM

OK, all in!

UMike

I think his success will depend on just how true the stories were that he wasnt liked by HS coaches locally, at least at the end of his time here. I think its more important what we do on the field than how RS does recruiting here.

SOUP

Email me what specific events you want to attend or if you are all in for the entire trip.

Skool...Harry Miller has a good friend that lives in Key Largo and has two boats, one is strictly a fishing boat and one is a pontoon boat for bay sunset cruising and restaurant and bar hopping. A year ot two ago they went out and caught 30 dolphin fileted them and took the filets to a local restaurant where they cooked them up multiple ways.

dj moonbat

Except that by then, UF had turned into a juggernaut.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 31, 2014 at 10:15 AM
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Kinda like FSU

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 31, 2014 at 10:17 AM


Yes. Like that.

Terrance Sullivan

Co-sign UMike statement!

J'Ville Cane

@DarrenHeitner: Former UM coach Randy Shannon will be recruiting coordinator LB coach at Florida (via @Brody_IAKOW)

Posted by: Go Canes | December 31, 2014 at 08:34 AM

Didn't randy supposedly burn his recruiting bridges when he was HC?

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 08:43 AM

That's called a talking point. You've heard them before. (MYTH)

Remember Golden was wanted by a bunch of schools when Miami hired him, and the teams were lazy and spoiled under Shannon; (MYTH) however after 3 Utuff sessions we still fade down the stretch.

Al Golden did a great job handling the "cloud" (MYTH) even though all HE did was coach a mediocre football team and earn 2.5mil

Miami owe Golden for hanging in there during the investigation. (MYTH) As if 2.5mil was not enough.

Al Golden is a great recruiter. (MYTH) If I recall correctly there was one guy that currently post on here who stated Al recruits just as good as Jimbo Fisher. LOL

When Randy missed on a recruit it was he only recruited one school in Miami, when Folden miss out on a recruit it's well we can't get them all.

I can go on and on but I'm sure you get my point.

They just repeat them over and over and in their mine it becomes the truth regardless what the FACTS show.

Go Canes

Agree 100% UMIke

CaneRock

Why would Randy have a reputation amongst the HS coaches?...because He didn't recruit crooks like Thomas Finnie?...or kids who thugged outta Marshall like Kevin Grooms?

UpNorthCane27

By the looks of it Al golden has not been fired and No'D is still on the staff along with Jethro and dumb face Williams..... FML man FML thank god 2014 is in the past but too bad itll be more of the same mularkey coming outta Coral Gables.....

Randy Shannon F U for going to U F

Canes Revolution!!!!!! Take back Coral Gables in 2015!!!

30CINCO

Want to know how many times UM went to visit Miami Central, a school that won the Class 6A state title this year and produced 17 Division I players on Wednesday (and as Golden pointed out produced more D-I talent than the entire state of Connecticut)?
"They came out once in the spring," Rockets coach Telly Lockette said Thursday night, shortly before Golden hosted nearly 100 head coaches and assistant coaches from Miami-Dade County at UM's basketball game against Georgia Tech.
"I remember the recruiting coordinator [Aubrey Hill] and the [defensive backs] coach [Wesley] McGriff came out to see us. McGriff came one other time. I'll say they came three times total to be safe."

Lockette, one of three on the board of the Miami-Dade County Coaches Association, doesn't want to take shots at Shannon or his staff. He's known Shannon since he was a teenager, grew up playing at the same park where Shannon frequented up in Northwest Dade. But Lockette still isn't sure why the Hurricanes didn't come around to recruit his players more often or other local players many thought were good enough to play for the Canes but ended up elsewhere.

The thought process here isn't that the Canes need to get every local kid. The thought process is at least come and make your presence felt so if you have to offer a kid late in the game, you don't come in as a total stranger.

"I remember Randy coming in personally about a year ago, we sat down and talked," Lockette said. "From then on, we thought it was going to be better. I'm not trying to throw Randy Shannon or his staff under the bus. I just thought they were recruiting a different type athlete. They would say, 'Well this guy can't play at Miami.' Jeffrey Godfrey? He can't play at Miami? You look at the guys who are going off to Louisville and what they're going to do. You know and I know you've been watching football for a long time -- that's sickening.

"At the end of the day, if you look at the track record, I've been here for three years. You mean to tell me I'm sending 53 kids off to school from here, 38 are D-I and only one is going to UM? I don't know what the deal was. They have to answer that."

UMike

CR..if I remember correctly there were stories that RS basically ignored a lot of local schools and focused on just a few. I know some coaches flat out said they didnt hear from Miami when RS was there. I am NOT a RS supporter or defender...just passing on what I remember reading and hearing after he left.

Ohio_Cane

Why would Randy have a reputation amongst the HS coaches?...because He didn't recruit crooks like Thomas Finnie?...or kids who thugged outta Marshall like Kevin Grooms?

Posted by: CaneRock | December 31, 2014 at 10:52 AM
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This is a joke, right? U don't remember Shannon's recruits that flamed out/got kicked out? Really?

So Randy DIDN'T recruit all those kids who were part of the NCAA scandal and were suspended at least the opener vs Maryland?

Randy DIDN'T recruit Jeffrey Brown who raped that girl on campus when Golden arrived?

Randy DIDN'T recruit Ramon Buchanan who assaulted a police officer?

Do I need to keep going?

Go Canes

I remember it that way too.

SOUP

J'Ville and Rock...U guys are so wrong, so off base, so ridiculously mistaken that it is not even funny anymore, it is just downright sad.

#WeStillTalkinBoutShannon?

#RevisionistHistory

#GetOverIt

Go Canes

Good post Ohio.

roachcane77

Let's assume that the impossible happens and Al fires his coordinators, brings in Jed (or someone good) who calls his own plays and a D coordinator whose given the latitude to install a new system. Is that enough to shut us up?
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 08:36 AM

In short... YES. That would shut me up for a year.

HOWEVER, as you stated to open the piece... "assume the impossible happens and Al fires his coordinators."

That's never ever gonna happen. Al is WAY TOO SMART for us, and WAY TO SMART to have ever make a mistake in choosing coordinators or coaches...

Like I said last night. The ONLY coaches we lose this year are those that WANT to leave this sinking ship before it hits the bottom of the Mariana Trench where it's currently headed. Al will probably make it LOOK LIKE he "fired" them, instead of them "quitting" on their own.

This is all very sad.

CaneRock

SOUP...sorry buddy, revisionist history doesn't apply to this one, I brought RS up in the present tense.

raizecane

RS is no longer a Hurricane so who gives a flip......nothing to see here so move along :-)

Demons

RS has to know he is being exploited for his , whatever connections he has in south fl,Arkansas hired him to get Collins up there , fl is going to do the same thing with him , I guess money over loyalty comes first , well if I was broke I would do it to.

CaneRock

Ohio_Cane...so now Ramon Buchanan assaulted a police huh? Just a few months ago, you argued me up & down that He ain't do $h!t! LMAO!

J'Ville Cane

Posted by: SOUP | December 31, 2014 at 11:20 AM

Who brought up Randy? It's a blog, I commented on what was mentioned. Randy was a bad coach, just like Golden is, I don't think that can even be debated. But.......

I don't mind you showing me where I'm wrong?

3 years of utuff and we fizzle down the stretch? FACT? Just the other day someone posted an article on the first half verse second half scoring and our record when down at the half. I didn't make it up.

AL Golden was a hot commodity when we hired him. So hot that he wasn't even one of our first choices (FACT)

Al Golden did a great job handling the "cloud" (MYTH). What exactly did he do. Be a pretty face for the cameras? The school hired attorneys and Donna made her statements through the media keeping pressure on the NCAA. How well did he recruit? Good enough to finish deal last in the weakest conference in football

Al Golden is a great recruiter. - see above

When Randy missed on a recruit it was he only recruited one school in Miami, when Folden miss out on a recruit it's well we can't get them all.

- Randy had just as many soflo recruits in his class as Golden. I doubt Fl is dumb enough to hire him as head recruiting coordinator without knowing of his connections down south. But then again I could be wrong, Miami hired Al Golden, how dumb was that.

KYcane

Soup,

Are you still contributing any articles to "Wide Open Spaces"?

Demons

Watched GA and Louisville last night , I swear the ga defense looks so much like ours , with a better outcome of course.

Ohio_Cane

Ohio_Cane...so now Ramon Buchanan assaulted a police huh? Just a few months ago, you argued me up & down that He ain't do $h!t! LMAO!

Posted by: CaneRock | December 31, 2014 at 11:40 AM
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And U argued that he DID. U don't get to have it both ways.

SOUP

Are you still contributing any articles to "Wide Open Spaces"?

Posted by: KYcane | December 31, 2014 at 11:41 AM

NEGATIVE.

It required too much time, and not enough pay. I was giving them like 20 hours a week for $80, so clearly it was not worth it.

roachcane77

I wish no ill will toward Randy.

He wasn't the best fit as our, (or probably ANYBODY'S) Head Coach, but he seems to be a good man, who has risen from a tough "life situation," to achieve a very high level of success in his chosen profession.

I hope he is able to be happy wherever he ends up.

Ohio_Cane

I was giving them like 20 hours a week for $80, so clearly it was not worth it.

Posted by: SOUP | December 31, 2014 at 11:50 AM
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What, and that wasn't payin the bills? Lol

SOUP

J'ville...I got no time to argue, or prove you wrong, and on SOME points I do agree with you, so lets just leave it at that.

I actually think UF hiring Shannon was a smart move in theory. Time will tell IF it pays off for them. As stated previously IF UM keeps losing and UF starts winning it prolly will turn out good fro them or at least appear that it did.

SOUP

I hope he is able to be happy wherever he ends up.

Posted by: roachcane77 | December 31, 2014 at 11:51 AM

THIS

UpNorthCane27

Randy would be a good head coach in the mac or sub belt or one of those conferences, where he would with out a doubt recruit guys from SFL that were dissed by the big three.

ANyways F U Shannon for going to U F.....

Move on fellas...

Guys the real question is how the F@#$ are we going to generate or be excited for this upcoming year.

30CINCO

I hope he is able to be happy wherever he ends up.

Posted by: roachcane77 | December 31, 2014 at 11:51 AM
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I can agree with your post except for this last part.

Anywhere BUT the gator and the nole. Now that he is a gator, I wish explosive diarrhea upon him.

TonyCane

His hiring as recruiting coordinator being met with a lot of yawns on Twitter, which I found surprising. Saw these as a retweet. Don't know if accurate.

@JGJr9: This is the same Randy Shannon that once signed 7 WRs and 0 CBs. That’s what you want in a recruiting coordinator?

From 08 to 10, Randy signed 4 CBs. 2 of which busted out of school in a year. In a 3 year span Randy brought in 2 useful CBs. Think about it

Posted by: Go Canes | December 31, 2014 at 10:08 AM

I can't blame him for oversigning on WRs that year. Coker's inability to get commitments at the position at even a bare replacement level led to punters and cornerbacks being converted to wide receivers.

Demons

I think , if golden is going to be here we have to grin and bear with it until someone with some cojones does something , that defense can not work with the speed we have , Louisville when they are not getting pounded has the kind of scheme I like , but they got busted in the mouth so much last night their legs went .

Da U N Houston


Watched GA and Louisville last night , I swear the ga defense looks so much like ours , with a better outcome of course.

Posted by: Demons | December 31, 2014 at 11:44 AM


Many teams run the 3-4, we just don't execute it. And that is on the coaches. Either 1:The coaches are not bringing in/elvaluating the right players to run that defense or 2: DNO does not know how to run the Def.

I think its a little of both. I think Al wants DNO to run a 3-4 and DNO thinks he knows how to by reading a book. DNO is the wrong man for the right job. His assitance as well. The 3-4 lives and dies from 2 positions. DL and CB's. Our coaches for both of those positions do not seem to be familiar with the 3-4. At first I blamed it on the kids not having the skills, but you see other schools with less talented players play the same D with sucess.

Example: We always here of a Field corner and a Boundary Corner. Those positions do not exists in the 3-4. With a 4th LB playing OLB allows you not to have a boundary corner b/c your OLB should have the speed to get to the flats. You can see a lot of time we get beat (i.e. USC game) our bondary corner stayed on the flat while the WR runs down the hash. The system that we try to run is asking the OLB to cover that with FS help over top and corner in the flat. Leave the dayum flats to the OLB and have the corner cover the deep route.

I promise it is not rocket science. I reviewed 75% of TD's against us and you can see the scheme if ass backwards.

SOUP

Guys the real question is how the F@#$ are we going to generate or be excited for this upcoming year.

Posted by: UpNorthCane | December 31, 2014 at 11:54 AM

That's easy: tailgating and cheerleaders.

BigWindyCane1

I didn't like it when I saw Butch take the UNC job, and I don't like it when I see Shannon take this UF job because they compete against us on the field and/or on the recruiting trail.

Shannon is being hired to open up recruiting in Florida to UF, and specifically South Florida. Only time will tell if Shannon has learned from his past recruiting mistakes or if he will be successful at UF. But Shannon will try to compete against UM for recruits - that will be his job, and I hope he fails miserably as far as UM is concerned.

I also think UF should dump T-Rob because he would make a great replacement for Paul Williams.

Demons

I am in the sense if you are going to beat me , beat me with your best , case in point ga tech ,we know, every one knows ,they are running 95 % of the time ,place 7 men on the front , 1 middle lb , corner on wr , and 1 safety on te , make them beat us over the top , we were so afraid to get beat deep that teams just nickel and dimed us down the field , if this was noted before , disregard .

BigWindyCane1

Mike Rumph will also make a great DB coach for UM.

Demons

Houston,i saw so much open field on the wide side of the field , Nebraska ate us up alive out there .

Demons

Bigwindy, doesn't look like golden is going to hire coaches from down here, he has done his quota by hiring ice harris .

Da U N Houston

And regardless of the Fact or Fiction behind Momma Duke, she is flat wrong.
If the issue was Duke not getting the ball enough, everytime we forced him the ball Def.'s would put 8-9 in the box. If its losing she is tired of (which I completely agree with), but you still don't shit on the program and that's exactly what she did.

Hate it or Love the "U"nderdog's on top!

UpNorthCane27

man i wish Al Blades was alive and just straight up came outta nowhere and tackled Golden and No'd back to Jersey

30CINCO

Mike Rumph will also make a great DB coach for UM.

Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | December 31, 2014 at 12:18 PM

Bigwindy, doesn't look like golden is going to hire coaches from down here, he has done his quota by hiring ice harris .

Posted by: Demons | December 31, 2014 at 12:27 PM
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We actually have Kevin Beard on staff as well. Not as a coach but a staff member (not sure of title). He can always jump in like Hurlie did.

Mike Rumph would be a good addition tho.

Demons

Boys we are stuck with the yankee players and coaches ,unless we get us an AD from down here on the other side of the mason Dixon line.

WWIN

^^^^^^^ Lol UpNorth!

Demons

Who ever they have as coaches from down here , those guys hands will be tied anyway , because golden and his ace boku buddy will tell them how they want things to go ,

Go Canes

Hurlie, Coley, Ice, Beard and Kehoe are all guys who are from here and/or went to school here.

We will see where we end up in recruiting in February.

WWIN

People also look over the fact that Momma Duke said this on her PERSONAL Facebook account not the media! If you don't like it stay off her page! She can say whatever the hell she wants on HER account!

She didn't do anything WRONG! Plus it's not like she said something that we couldn't already see on the field, especially the Virginia and Pitt games. If you don't like what she said fire your coach!

UMike

I can see why people may not like the timing of what Momma Duke said, but IDK how anyone can say she is wrong. She is a frustrated parent, probably feeling her sons pain and has every right to express her opinion about it. Just because YOU dont like it or the timing, doesnt make her wrong.

UMike

Anyway.. Im out! Please be safe everyone, want every blogger back on here come the 2nd... even Go Canes! lol.. Later fellas

Da U N Houston

I feel that, and She has the freedom of speech. But my issue is that as a FAN you don't publicly shit on your program. Perfect example, we are all fans here and talk all kinds of shit (albeit the truth) amongst ourselve. If we believed all the players would see what we typed on here we would secodn guess some of the stuff we say.

Its like that drunk uncle, the family talks bad about him within the family, but the minute someone from the outside says something folks jump to his defense. Mind you she is saying all this on her way OUT.

Demons

Karma and S--T rolling down hill are almost the same , someone is watching what you are doing , ,an AD should have minions readying and gauging blogs for feedback ,and all other info avail to him not that he will make determinations on just that, been a manager for years , I listen and don't make decisions some one shoves at me but may use some portions of it in the future , hey wait isn't that like football .

CaneRock


Example: We always here of a Field corner and a Boundary Corner. Those positions do not exists in the 3-4. With a 4th LB playing OLB allows you not to have a boundary corner b/c your OLB should have the speed to get to the flats. You can see a lot of time we get beat (i.e. USC game) our bondary corner stayed on the flat while the WR runs down the hash. The system that we try to run is asking the OLB to cover that with FS help over top and corner in the flat. Leave the dayum flats to the OLB and have the corner cover the deep route.


Posted by: Da U N Houston | December 31, 2014 at 12:12 PM

Houston...on that 1st TD we gave up, Spurrier ran 4-Verts...Owens had the flats...TH3 had deep outside 1/3s, but He had to stay with the #1...Owens had the flats, basically covering grass...Fentress had the deep middle, but He was held up by the crossing route of the #2...Armbrister had the boundary flats, but ended up on the #1 on that side...and Gunter had the deep outside 1/3s, and He was also held up on the #1.

So basically, we had 3 defenders covering 2 receivers on the boundary side...and TH3 had to cover 2 WRs on the field side?! Looked EXACLTY like the 1st TD we gave up against NU!

And that's the type of $h!t that some on here think kids like JJ & TI can fix. Only person I know can fix $h!t like that, wears a red cape, with an S on His chest!

roachcane77

Ya know. if you're expecting an OLB to cover a slot receiver, (which is as EVERYONE knows a total mismatch on speed), at LEAST let the OLB knock his a$$ as he tries to come off the line, (instead of trying to backpedal into coverage like our CBs are taught.)

WWIN

But my issue is that as a FAN you don't publicly shit on your program.

Posted by: Da U N Houston | December 31, 2014 at 12:58 PM

You do when you play in Toilet Bowls!

She didn't make anything worse than it already is. You're selfish and want players here by any means necessary. She doesn't want any other kids to go thru what her son went thru, so why would she wait? On the flip side, if someone had some bad inside info for your son would you want to hear it before he signed or after?

CaneRock

WWIM...but what prompted Her to say THAT! That NJtoFla DOUCHEBAG! had to say something outta bounds.

Go Canes

If there's ever been a mutually beneficial relationship, it's been the one Duke had with UM.

Da U N Houston


She didn't make anything worse than it already is. You're selfish and want players here by any means necessary. She doesn't want any other kids to go thru what her son went thru, so why would she wait? On the flip side, if someone had some bad inside info for your son would you want to hear it before he signed or after?


Posted by: WWIM | December 31, 2014 at 01:10 PM


I don't disagree with you, but she needs to speak up when it happens. Now it seems like she is doing it on her way out. So is she selfish in seeing this problem a while back and said nothing b/c her son is playing?

Again, I don't disagree with her comments, b/c she knows the players I don't. and I agree our coaching SUCKS, but I still support the program.

I'll answer your question with a question: So if you knew of a couple of players that can come in and change the program (be sophmore's when Golden leaves) are you such a FAN that you would stop those players from coming now?

Again, are we committed to the school or the coach?

laquinton

Lets assume that the impossible happens and Al fires his coordinators, brings in Jed (or someone good) who calls his own plays and a D coordinator whose given the latitude to install a new system. Is that enough to shut us up?

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 08:36 AM


I'm going to say no. It starts and ends with him he is in charge and he needs to held accountable.

Da U N Houston

CaneRock, Great observation and that's the Defense I think they are running, but teh question I can't understand is what is the SS doing on that play? What is he covering? Help me make sense of this. The corners have deep 3rd, FS has deep middle and OLB have the flats, and ILB's have hook to curl. D. Bush is not blitzing, he is not spying the QB b/c this is not a mobile QB, WTF do they have him doing?

As someone else said, re route the slot wr's. I wish I didn't love the program as much as I do.

Demons

A catch 22 if you are in her position , but as a fan and cane ,its bad for business,whoever our coach is.

SinisterCane

Pre Holiday Rumor:

Gary Ferman


Anyone listened to his radio show last night? For those that doesn't know him he writes for rivals on the Miami website. He stated but couldn't guarantee that Golden could still be let go if significant changes to his staff wasn't made! He also said that bringing in a quality assistant would not be easy! They would demand more than a years contract and the money would have to be great because of the possible lame duck situation! He said they may have to just eventually buy out the contract, but they are waiting on Golden's move! Golden is stuck between a rock and a hard place!

SinisterCane

Happy Year to all even though 2015 gonna suck with Golden at the helm

Da U N Houston


Golden is stuck between a rock and a hard place!

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 31, 2014 at 01:31 PM


Are those pillars 3 and 4 or 7 and 8 of his process pilars?

Go Canes

Hopefully if you have a son, his educational choices won't be limited based on your childish and juvenile thought process.

He'd deserve better than that. A lot better.

SinisterCane

Posted by: Go Canes | December 31, 2014 at 01:42 PM

You didn't like when WWIN questioned your choice to send your daughter to FSU "rightfully so", so give CC the same respect

Demons

TCU showing why they had a beef to be in the final four .they could end up # 2 if they wipe out ole miss, at the end of this whole process.

WWIN

Posted by: CaneRock | December 31, 2014 at 01:20 PM

Yep I'm sure he did!

CaneRock

CaneRock, Great observation and that's the Defense I think they are running, but teh question I can't understand is what is the SS doing on that play? What is he covering? Help me make sense of this. The corners have deep 3rd, FS has deep middle and OLB have the flats, and ILB's have hook to curl. D. Bush is not blitzing, he is not spying the QB b/c this is not a mobile QB, WTF do they have him doing?


Posted by: Da U N Houston | December 31, 2014 at 01:30 PM

As far as the coverage, you got it. It's basically a baseball coverage...FS has CF, CBs half LF & RF, and the LBs have the infield.

Like I said yesterday, a Pop Warner coach can tell you what they're doing on defense, that's HS level $hit they're running... Golden wouldn't last half-a-season coaching serious ball in SoFlo.

Go Canes

I respect people who can communicate and debate without insulting another person for simply having an opinion they perceive, albeit with their very limited capacity, to be contrary to theirs.

And I can't tell you how little I cared about WW's thoughts about where my daughter goes to school.

I found it downright humorous actually.

Demons

Most qb's will tell you they feel comfortable when they are being rushed by 3-4 man line , a 5-6 rush they know they have to get the ball out quickly and whether they complete it or not they are getting hit .

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