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December 31, 2014

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86Cane

Georgia Tech wins.

86Cane

TCU wins.

86Cane

Boise State wins.

Ohio_Cane


Ohio - do you feel we will end up with a top 12 recruiting class? You have good insight on that front. Thx bro

Posted by: Surfercane | December 31, 2014 at 09:55 PM
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Under the assumption Golden is the coach in Feb? No. Top 20, maybe.

CaneRock

HNY!

86Cane

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

Terrance Sullivan

Happy New Year Canespacers!

UpNorthCane27

Happy new years my brothers!!!! Nothing but love to yall always and forever...

Its all about these muthaf#%^ing CANES and it will always be us against the world!!!

86Cane

The above is fact. The floor of expectations today is bowl games. They do not even speak of national championships anymore. If you speak w people there today they will tell you that they believe Al is safe w bowl appearances.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 11:24 PM

I once thought that U were smart.

Now I think that U are a total idiot.

Or maybe even worse than that...

WWIN

Happy New Year's to EVERYBODY!!!!!!!

To all my clients, 2015 will be even better than last year!

Soup thanks for the 2014 blog homie!

WWIN

Are you retarded?

Posted by: CaneRock | December 31, 2014 at 11:44 PM

His stance is perfectly clear on that! Lol

roachcane77

Happy New Year CaneSpacers!

Here's hoping there's a MIRACLE in 2015 and our U gets their sh!t together and starts to dominate!

1mg of Epi

Happy new year everybody

The Dude

What is that 4 or 5 years straight?

The Dude

First post 2015!!! Happy New Year!!!

Sarasota 'cane

I hope everyone has a Happy New Year!

CaneRock


Let me guess, the 314 and 28 we gave up to GT is still a disgrace and if we'd "covered the center" like a real school does we'd have won?

Posted by: Go Canes | December 31, 2014 at 11:37 PM

Are you retarded?

Go Canes

GT 560 yds and counting.

Go Canes

Let me guess, the 314 and 28 we gave up to GT is still a disgrace and if we'd "covered the center" like a real school does we'd have won?

1mg of Epi

Because everybody I have ever met has ALWAYS wanted to win more when they can as opposed to losing less when it is avoidable.
Are U going to tell me that there are three people at UM that are completely different from that philospohy?

#DesolationRow

Posted by: 86Cane | December 31, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Did you think I said that the admin wouldn't like to see championship football? I did not.

My statement, what you called "foolish", was that the U does not have different expectations for its football team today than it did 15 or 30 years ago. That the School never supported football to a degree that would warrant championship expectations. Do you disagree with this?

The above is fact. the floor of expectations today is bowl games. They do not even speak of national championships anymore. If you speak w people there today they will tell you that they believe Al is safe w bowl appearances.

BigWindyCane1

The large number of Florida players getting drafted does confirm what I have been seeing- Florida is actually producing more and more players-more than they did 15-30 years ago, and it gets better each year

BigWindyCane1

I didn't realize ghis was true until I confirmed it
http://usafootball.com/blog/americas-game/st-thomas-aquinas-florida-leads-all-high-schools-four-players-drafted

Not all of these drafted 44 were highly touted out of high school. The Canes simply need to do a better job of getting it's share of that 44. canes are not recruiting a lot of these players. If they can get 8-10 of those in state future NFL players every year, the Canes will reestablish their dynasty.

The Dude

So Iggy Azalea just said nigga on tv.

WWIN

Posted by: The Dude | December 31, 2014 at 10:49 PM

It's okay. You live and you learn, unless you're a bootlicker and in that case you keep buying lemons and eventually start making lemonade with em so it's all good! Lol

Surfercane

ACC! Go Georgia Tech!!

WWIN

Posted by: 86Cane | December 31, 2014 at 10:40 PM

Of course everybody wants to win but everybody doesn't do what it takes to win! Big difference!

The Dude

Posted by: WWIM | December 31, 2014 at 10:46 PM

My bad man, if I wasn't totally busy with the Navy at the time I would have helped you out.

The Dude

28-22 wasn't good enough for RS. If only he "won more."

CaneRock

TD...Anthony Jones, Cook's lil' cousin.

WWIN

And even IF U could have been there then U would have been impressed with the binder and the pillars. I know U will never say so but that was an impressive PR campaign no matter who questions it. Maybe the PR did not materialize into productivity but the PR was there no doubt.

Posted by: 86Cane | December 31, 2014 at 10:19 PM

You right about that! I didn't know who the hell he was or why we hired him but was impressed with his campaign. He sold me a lemon!

CaneRock


Who is Jones?

Posted by: The Dude | December 31, 2014 at 10:41 PM

The kid from Central, we can't even beat FIU for kids.

86Cane

How do u know I wasn't there?

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Bernie told me so, that's how.

The Dude

Who is Jones?

86Cane

I want to know why u think I'm foolish to say the U doesn't expect much now from football nor did it ever...

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 10:31 PM

Because everybody I have ever met has ALWAYS wanted to win more when they can as opposed to losing less when it is avoidable.

Are U going to tell me that there are three people at UM that are completely different from that philospohy?

#DesolationRow

CaneRock

Jones re-commits to FIU.

1mg of Epi

4. Maybe this is true, maybe it is not, but U have no evidence and U were not there.

And even IF U could have been there then U would have been impressed with the binder and the pillars. I know U will never say so but that was an impressive PR campaign no matter who questions it. Maybe the PR did not materialize into productivity but the PR was there no doubt.

Posted by: 86Cane | December 31, 2014 at 10:19 PM

How do u know I wasn't there? Just because I wasn't there doesn't mean you know I wasn't there.

I never said I thought it Was a bad hire at the time! That press conference, the manual... It was all pretty sexy! Then came the games. They're not firing him yesterday because football isn't much of a priority.

I want to know why u think I'm foolish to say the U doesn't expect much now from football nor did it ever...

The Dude

Se invita a su esposa también

^^^ My espanol is really bad. I hope that's right.

The Dude

Posted by: 86Cane | December 31, 2014 at 10:24 PM

We can meet up in Colorado my man. It's all on the up and up that way.

The Dude

Did Blake and Al have their conversation yet?

86Cane

The Dude has the medicine for what troubles you.

Posted by: The Dude | December 31, 2014 at 10:10 PM

Yeah, but dat stuff is illegal and I don't go there anymore. I am home and safe and happy. Got the wife of 24 years, good home, and happy life. I have a struggling new career (so far) but looks to be turning out OK into the new year. I'm good!

dj moonbat

There's a whole lot of people claiming to know what's going on -- or not going on -- behind the scenes, and to know the motivations of the decision makers.

But we don't know. We don't know whether the Board is doing its due diligence to rid The Dude of this meddlesome coach. We don't know whether they're actually laughing at all of us poor mopes while they cash their ACC checks. We don't know who they are considering to take Shalala's place, and what that person has to do with the decision.

I do know that it seems really, really weird the blanket of silence that's going on, and the lack of even a statement concerning the future of various assistants, much less any firings. Until a) somebody gets fired, or b) a statement comes out saying everybody is coming back, I am assuming that the situation remains in flux.

If I were to hazard a guess, I would say that relations between Al and Blake are not currently as simpatico as Blake's public statements would suggest. Blake himself is probably feeling some non-zero amount of heat demanding change, and Blake being the consummate stooge, would love to be able to deliver.

Whatever we're waiting on, it'll happen soon. It may be good, it may be bad, but there will at the very worst (from my standpoint) be an announcement saying the whole staff is coming back. Until then, I remain cautiously optimistic. Because I don't know what's going on, but it sure doesn't seem like the kind of situation that the Powers that Be actually want to keep on festering.

The Dude

2. It didn't seem like a good idea to me.

3. Yeah, woulda, coulda, shoulda but as of right now the thought of what could have been is much more appealing than the current reality.

86Cane

1. They would fire him now if they didn't have that contract.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 09:43 PM

2. Ugh. I never would have hired Al Golden.

Posted by: The Dude | December 31, 2014 at 09:44 PM

3. I can't believe they bent to the will of Golden's agent but not Gruden's.

Posted by: The Dude | December 31, 2014 at 09:42 PM

4. Al was hired by the AD, Kosar and Dimare... You'd think Kosar could've seen thru the BS but I guess Al is that slimy.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 09:47 PM

1. Maybe, maybe not.

2. At the time it seemed like a good hire.

3. Gruden? Seriously, are we talking Gruden?

4. Maybe this is true, maybe it is not, but U have no evidence and U were not there.

And even IF U could have been there then U would have been impressed with the binder and the pillars. I know U will never say so but that was an impressive PR campaign no matter who questions it. Maybe the PR did not materialize into productivity but the PR was there no doubt.

1mg of Epi

Can I get another 1 mg of Epi before I respond?

Posted by: 86Cane | December 31, 2014 at 10:07 PM

Absolutely... It's loaded up and ready to go! You'll definitely be awake to see the new year in!

1mg of Epi

The sunlife contract isn't public, but it's 25 years is flexible.

A school can talk w whomever they want, it's usually the coaches who don't want to talk to the school before the previous guy is fired.

I've wondered whether butch would give Miami a hometown discount, but the truth is after UNC I think his value has decreased anyway.

The Dude

Posted by: 86Cane | December 31, 2014 at 10:07 PM

The Dude has the medicine for what troubles you.

86Cane

2015 just got started half an hour ago in Germany with fireworks and all. May it be a good one for all of you and a special one for the Canes!

Posted by: VfB_Cane | December 31, 2014 at 06:41 PM

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

To all of friends in Germany!

The Dude

How much of that money has to go to Sunlife? Can a university negotiate with another coach even if the current coach is under contract? It maybe considered somewhat sleazy but maybe Miami doesn't want to fire then hire as the next guy might hold them over a barrel. It's all way hypothetical but I wonder if Butch would take much less than he's worth while having to keep most of the staff?

1mg of Epi

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 08:56 PM
#FoolishIsAnUnderstatement
Posted by: 86Cane | December 31, 2014 at 09:13 PM

Are you saying that this university at some point gave this team the level of support necessary to be a national contender? If so that's news to me. And everybody else.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 09:24 PM

C'mon Soup.. You can't call me foolish and not tell me why? How am I wrong?

86Cane

Are you saying that this university at some point gave this team the level of support necessary to be a national contender? If so that's news to me. And everybody else.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 09:24 PM

Can I get another 1 mg of Epi before I respond?

1mg of Epi

Posted by: J' Ville Cane | December 31, 2014 at 09:59 PM

Lol yup

1mg of Epi


Ohio - do you feel we will end up with a top 12 recruiting class? You have good insight on that front. Thx bro

Posted by: Surfercane | December 31, 2014 at 09:55 PM

I know nothing about recruiting, but right now they're 19... U think its gonna get better?

J' Ville Cane

Kosar was probably tipsy at the interview with Folden. After Folden reached page 20 of his 300 page binder Kosar was like forget it, higher him.

1mg of Epi

Well 10,000 per game @ $100 total revenue per seat would be $1 mill per game. The net revenue may be high (but probably not w donation, concessions parking etc) but that attendance increase is very conservative. The actual numbers from previous years was higher.

The money is there. They definitely are gonna have a bad couple years revenue wise because it looks like a lot of us are not renewing tickets. I won't spend a dime either.

Surfercane

Ohio - do you feel we will end up with a top 12 recruiting class? You have good insight on that front. Thx bro

The Dude

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 09:47 PM

I doubt they ever watched a single Temple game. They met, they said now that guy has a plan and to Golden's credit he addressed many of the knee jerk issues with RS. They told themselves that he's a young JJ. They were wrong. The issue is they said hey, let's take a gamble on this guy but then like fools raised the bet with bad cards.

The Dude

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 09:43 PM

Maybe. I don't think it would completely but if Al got a job I'm sure they don't have to pay him all of his buyout. Al is too young and engaging to not get a job somewhere. The fact that they are passing up a "golden" opportunity to hire Butch Davis is a huge signal to me that money is the bottom line at Miami. But they'll have to get all that money from somewhere besides the fans.

1mg of Epi


I can't believe they bent to the will of Golden's agent but not Gruden's. That is just beyond disturbing. People get fired for that kind of crap in business all the time. But who's left to fire? The ADs have all bolted for greener pastures.

Posted by: The Dude | December 31, 2014 at 09:42 PM

Al was hired by the AD, kosar and dimare... You'd think kosar could've seen thru the BS but I guess Al is that slimy

The Dude

Ugh. I never would have hired Al Golden. Miami is so dumb.

1mg of Epi

Dude the frustrating thing is that a coaching change now, the right change, would boost ticket sales enough to cover the buyout annually. I posted te numbers before, winning seasons have 10k+ more butts in seats.

They would fire him now if they didn't have that contract... I don't believe he'd lose the job w 7 or more wins

The Dude

I can't believe they bent to the will of Golden's agent but not Gruden's. That is just beyond disturbing. People get fired for that kind of crap in business all the time. But who's left to fire? The ADs have all bolted for greener pastures.

The Dude

The hire of Al Golden tells you a lot about who's running Miami. They screwed up hard. They thought they had Gruden and Gruden backed out. Then they got sold by Golden like a bunch of yokels at a county fair. It is a comedy of errors by Donna's people. They have no football acumen whatsoever.

1mg of Epi

I missed it... I take it you heard that the players aren't happy w the coaches and systems?

The Dude

I think if Al's contract were up, they'd fire him. Especially if bowls are what they want because next year Miami might not go to one. They panicked and made a really bad business decision giving an unproven and unproductive coach a huge contract extension that they didn't give themselves an out on. Now, the money, which I think is evident they have, outweighs their desire to win, which I think they do, just not at a high level. The university certainly has lower standards than the fanbase, much lower. I will buy that the university got more results under great coaches than they ever anticipated. It's sad because everyone knows Miami is a bunch of lying bureaucrats giving mixed messages to their fans, but the fanbase doesn't buy it anymore. Too bad Randy didn't "win enough."

CoCane

I've been saying it for years now. Lol

CoCane

1mg,

I'm in contact with a few former players I grew up with and told everybody on here what the deal is. People believe what they want to believe. So f*ck it. I just have fun laughing at the naive...

mi@mic@ne

You look at Miss. St. rushing 5 guys and it makes you mad that we got such soft coaches. They got us playing in a slow gear...plain and simply they are soft coaches

1mg of Epi

Or are you saying they expect a seriously underfunded and under supported team to just somehow compete nationally?

1mg of Epi

That's what the admin expects and that's not just my opinion.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 08:56 PM
#FoolishIsAnUnderstatement
Posted by: 86Cane | December 31, 2014 at 09:13 PM

Are you saying that this university at some point gave this team the level of support necessary to be a national contender? If so that's news to me. And everybody else.

1mg of Epi

They obviously don't find it all that unacceptable! The fans want NCs and the admin wants bowls... They're actually lucky it took so long for that gap to become evident... They had to fire Coker because he lost control of the team and they had to fire randy because of Shapiro... This is the first time a bad coach with a bad record didn't have anything else swirling around which required him to be fired.

I mentioned on the blog a couple months ago I happen to be around some current and former players a couple times a week... The impression I get is that what we suspect to be true is true, in terms of the locker room. I

86Cane

That's what the admin expects and that's not just my opinion.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 08:56 PM

#FoolishIsAnUnderstatement

NativeCane

NativeCane...where U at? U all in for the Canespace Four Play?Posted by: SOUP | December 31, 2014 at 04:46 PM

Youre tempting me dude, I will have to think on it, what kind of fishing down there at the end of February?

The Dude

1mg of Epi
Yea but I wanna complain about the admin!!!!!!!

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 31, 2014 at 09:07 PM

Lol.

The Dude

Go Canes made the same mistake. The relationship between the HC and the fans, the administration and fans is toxic. The U and Golden are sending the message that they find 6-7 completely acceptable. The locker room? Well who really knows, I can say locker rooms are full of really competitive people, so individually most of them aren't happy with the situation. The problem is Al doesn't have everyone on the same page like a championship team should be. I think that's what all of these comments are telling us. My guess is roughly a quarter of this team has tuned him out.

1mg of Epi

Yea but I wanna complain about the admin!!!!!!!

The Dude

^^^ read with the fanbase Epi.

1mg of Epi

The situation is beyond toxic. It can only get worse. The ONLY way it gets any better for Golden, assuming he gets 2015 and the admin does as most think they will, Al probably has to win 10 games, the Coastal and a bowl. In other words the trifecta of this years goal, 1 year late. That would simmer things down. But with all of the turnover and how long it takes Mark and Al to train people to play in their scheme that doesn't work, well that's one hell of a long shot and is very VERY doubtful. If Miami doesn't do something they are sending a message that is LOUD and CLEAR that Miami is out of the picture playing at the highest level.

Posted by: The Dude | December 31, 2014 at 04:30 PM

Dude they NEVER placed football as a priority, we got lucky w a good AD who found good coaches!! Nothing has changed. Al doesn't need 10 wins. He needs bowl appearances. That's what the admin expects and that's not just my opinion.

86Cane

HAPPY NEW YEAR CANESPACERS!!!

The Dude

For djmb ONLY:

Will no one rid me of this troublesome coach?

The Dude

James Franklin should take the Bills job.

The Dude

Okay Canesfans, gear up. It's time to start trolling the Bills.

WWIN

^^^^^ Lol

I'm shocked he didn't pick UM, I know he lives with Dalvin Cooks mom but still!

The Dude

Posted by: Go Canes | December 31, 2014 at 04:49 PM

Phillips didn't look so good after all.

The Dude

Slow night around here.

laquinton

Well last year when Golden went super silent for a week. Moten hit Jelani on twitter and said what's going on down there bro and he said idk

The Dude

They filmed a ghost at Pocatello high school.

The Dude

When does Phillips announce?

The Dude

@RayRayLewis5: Don't be scared to live your dreams... even when you're going through a nightmare

The Dude

Boise State is making Idaho proud.

VfB_Cane

Happy New Year to everybody! 2015 just got started half an hour ago in Germany with fireworks and all. May it be a good one for all of you and a special one for the Canes!

The Dude

Posted by: Go Canes | December 31, 2014 at 06:29 PM

Is that at me? If so are you trying to place new meaning on what I said?

The Dude

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 31, 2014 at 06:25 PM

If that's "smoke" then someone over there needs to replace their Twitter manager. That's as bad as some Gary Ferman ish there.

The Dude

^^^ seems interesting to me that all of these players have been popping off on Twitter. I don't want to read into it too much but sounds like guys are trying to reconcile a bad locker room. Too bad Al is still their coach and that they have to figure out how to be leaders on their own. These guys just don't understand how stupid they sound coming off their 6-7 effort. It's hysterical really. Like a dude getting knocked out then popping off afterwards that the other guy better wait cause the next time I see him... Lol. Just shutup. You guys sucked.

Go Canes

Someone forgot to tell him it's so toxic too...

@F5_DEUCE: Love This #305 My Home My City 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 #CanesGang http://t.co/FmHpHQ2TUc

Ohio_Cane

TD, probably because everyone has been silent since the bowl game. Golden skipped 2 joe rose shows, Blake james skipped the bball game, etc.

That's just my guess.

USAFCane

Despite the doom and gloom it is nice to see the young players sounding off and taking on leadership roles. Never had any inside info but know someone who knows someone close to Jacques Johnson and we're getting a born leader and class act by all accounts. Hope AG doesn't coach it out of him.

The Dude

Are they just trolling Miami fans? What are they basing "smoke" on? Fan sentiment? because we all know The U thinks the fans are delirious.

CaneRock

So if it's so bad, why are they still wanting to sign here?

Posted by: Go Canes | December 31, 2014 at 04:49 PM

They know Butch comin'.

Ohio_Cane

TD,

Www.footballrumormill.com

TonyCane

Hopefully it's the burning of the game plans from those 7 losses!

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