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December 31, 2014

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mi@mic@ne

at least we are willing to stand on one side...if i wasnt dogmatic about what i believe then it would be the same thing as not caring. But I believe im right... I want Butch back and im gonna make it plain and clear...i could care less about how i am perceived...

Go Canes

I think this will make some people feel sad, or happy, I'm not sure.


@mattyports: Hurricanes volleyball All-American Savanah Leaf turned pro, signing with Sariyer Belediyespor of the (v. competitive) Turkish First League.

raizecane

Who the heck needs Butch or any of the other names mentioned to replace AG when clearly we have bloggers who know so much about the X's and O's of the game, what scheme needs to be ran on both side of the ball, etx..... There is no way we can go wrong with certain bloggers taking over as our head coach......

Canespace bloggers, please apply within :-)

mi@mic@ne

I played the wishbone in high school. Its the same kind of riding the running back into the hole. The only way to stop it would be to force the qb to retreat down the line of scrimmage so the play had to develop slower and deeper in the back field... penetration up the middle kills the option type offense.

The Dude

Has anyone read the Canesport rumors yet?

mi@mic@ne

on the spread you basically give up one side of the field for quick sweeps and all of the play development from the qb riding the running back on the hand off...thats a lot more time for the play to develop than just handing the ball off... so they are giving up seconds from 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage... and these 3 4s are letting them have that time so the qb can see how the play is developing...giving the qb too much time

roachcane77

Yeah. Our NE "Temple Backpedal" defense just doesn't get it done, as we all know.

(Even at the HS level.)

mi@mic@ne

Thats how the d players from dade are used to defensing the spread.

mi@mic@ne

I was watching reruns of Central yesterday...they were lining up with 2 deep about 10 yards off the line of scrimmage and the rest of the d was spread out along the line of scrimmage...even the line backers would come up on the line before the play...lol they were attacking so they penetrated from the outside and forced the play inside. The d line was in the backfield all day long. lol And man bump and run on the outside

Demons

Top half of the SEC west got their A$$e$ handed to them in the bowls .

mi@mic@ne

Teams are only as tough and as good as they can stop the run...because if you can run then the pass is gonna be successful because everyone is coming up for run support. This is our problem...we dont stop the run and especially when the game is on the line.

mi@mic@ne

These 3 4 defenses are made for a very few number of players who enter the NFL. The d players who are drafted into the NFL are basically physically able to handle their gap because they separate themselves from the hundreds of d linemen that come out of college. These d lineman and linebackers are as fast and as quick as running backs. The d line has one job that they practice and study for 40 plus hours a week.

The problem with running that 3 4 in college is that most of the d line that come out of high school are too slow to square up with the o lineman and shed him so they can close of their gap. You see this happening to Bama yesterday when OSU backs were running through big holes and getting touched by the defense after they are 5 yards down field.

The problem is that because the HS are running these spread offenses the d line play on runs has declined. Even the corners look lost on run support. And the way to stop the spread offenses is to hit the qb so that he wants to hand the ball off and throw the ball out of bounds instead of taking another hit. The only way you get o the qb is to penetrate and force the play to be run from deeper behind the line of scrimmage...we used to say string the play out. But these 3 4 defenses are not designed to penetrate. I really do not believe these new college coaches even understand how to coach the old JJ defense. Butch was part of designing the 4 down.

I saw all these 3 4s get gashed for long runs yesterday.

roachcane77

Somewhat off topic... but it seems to me that the "prototype" WINNING college QB has now been pretty much established as 6'4" to 6'5," very STRONG, and able to RUN as well as throw.

Vince Young, Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, (even though he couldn't throw very well), Connor Cook, J.T. Barrett, Cardale Jones, James Winston, Marcus Mariota, etc.

The Manzels, Fluties, RG3s, Blake Sims, Nick Marshalls, and Justin Thomas's who are shorter, and good passers and runners will have sporadic success, but not the CONSISTENT success of the REALLY big strong running QBs.

The pocket passing, NON running QB in COLLEGE is just NOT getting it done anymore...

I like Kaaya, but his weight room numbers are horrific, and he's very slow of foot. In TODAY'S COLLEGE game, he doesn't seem to meet the winning QB prototype. Rosier is too short...

I HATE, (stress HATE), Ohio State and Urban Crier, but he's WINNING with the REALLY BIG, STRONG, and able to RUN and pass college QBs.

Granted there are HUGE amounts of other factors, ESPECIALLY GOOD OL & DL players, (and schemes), but if I'M recruiting a QB for today's college game, I'm following the QB prototypes of the Suckeyes and Ducks. BIG, STRONG, and can RUN with authority, as well as pass.

Is that asking too much? (LOL)

dj moonbat

It's easier to play defense when you're up by a ton of points. This is why I hate deferring until the 2nd half. Get up by 10, then 20, then 30. Force their game plan in the 3rd and 4th quaters.

Posted by: The Dude | January 02, 2015 at 10:43 AM


It really depends on how good your defense is. If your chances of forcing a punt on the first drive of the game are good, then you should defer.

The Dude

It's easier to play defense when you're up by a ton of points. This is why I hate deferring until the 2nd half. Get up by 10, then 20, then 30. Force their game plan in the 3rd and 4th quaters.

VA CANE

Agree with you dj and gc.....while harder to impliment in the pros and use regularly there, it is dynamic exciting and works. I watched carefully got the jist of some of the plays.....already going to use it in my offense got the qb and athletes to do it. Makes our slow developing sloppy predictable O look bad.
AlPa would never go for any of it....way beyond his level of football comprehension. Hell they can't run simple pro set O, that O is all greek to them. I enjoyed seeing it work.....and yes FSU quit. Jimbo is a dumb MF...said Winston was great player yes said one of cfbs all time greats hardly....said Winston great person....NO!

Defending champs just gave up quit said uncle...quitters!

laquinton

Only coach that coyote truly revive, coach lower talent and gabe everybody excited about is Art Briles. But the are so many coaches out there that would want to coach at UM right now the applicants would be crazy. Schiano, Dave W, Butch clearly wants back. Chud, Dorsey, Kirby smart, Lane Kiffen, I don't trust rumors of al golden being fired monday. But you never know. He isn't panning out at all and there's goals and expectations to ml be met here at temple you just had to win whatever you could. Better days ahead

Go Canes ! happy new year

Go Canes

Posted by: dj moon bat | January 02, 2015 at 09:42 AM

It is a thing of beauty.

VA CANE

DJ,
That would make sense but then ......wait....look at the last 3 hires....Clappy, Onionhead, and AlPa....not exactly HRs......more like pop outs to catcher while trying to bunt!
These people have no clue when it comes to fooball, football coaches, AD's etc. They are a huge part of the problem. I don't see anything happening..never know.

Go Canes

2015 is going to happen right 360?

We are actually going to play the games?

I think before you call someone insane, you should check what the statement "Ground and pound like GT" would be classified as.


UpNorthCane27

Part of what your saying is right Go Canes the offense stumbled too much and got 3 instead of 7 and that killed us...

But we need to get rid of Golden and No'd along with jethro and paul

360Cane

You keep high octane off the field by ground and pound. FSU's style of catch up this year just isn't the way to beat the ducks. You have to do what GT did to us. Give them the ball once in the third. []_[]

360Cane

Go Canes, I'm going to go ahead and clinically label you as insane. You want to try 2014 all over again in 2015 expecting different results.

dj moonbat

Watched part or all of the games yesterday. Yesterday proved once again that in today's college football, there isn't a defense that can stop a high octane offense.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 02, 2015 at 09:37 AM


I've finally given up on my insistence that the U should maintain its dedication to running a pro-style offense. Seeing what Oregon does with speedy skill players is just too pretty.

Go Canes

Man typepad sucks.

Go Canes

Watched part or all of the games yesterday. Yesterday proved once again that in today's college football, there isn't a defense that can stop a high octane offense.

Point totals for the winners of the big bowls over the last few days were 42, 59, 42, 42, 40 and 37.

Also went back on ESPN.com . Working backwards from last night, saw S. Carolina was the only bowl winner to score less than 30 points and win their game.

Pretty staggering to see that.

IMO The key to 2015 for this team in my opinion will be much better execution in the red zone, with the offense scoring 7 instead of 3 consistently when they get down there.

360Cane

It's just frustrating seeing everyone else making moves, but []_[].

360Cane

I agree. Blake's PR release was strictly that. Anything could be going on right now. And Monday seems to be the new day of hope. []_[]

Old Skool

Wow. Knockout block on a Baylor kicker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QIdZH9g_Z4

dj moonbat

Still no hires and still no fires. The product must not need improvement. []_[]

Posted by: 360Cane | January 02, 2015 at 09:12 AM

Waiting for things that you KNOW will happen is hard. Waiting for rumors to materialize is still harder.

Remember: we have NO IDEA what Miami's bureaucracy is thinking. Fans are angry, and they assume that the lack of any action by the bureaucracy necessarily means complacency -- that they don't think the product must need improvement. But that might not be what's going on at all.

There are things happening, which the BoT/Prez might be waiting on.

1. There's football being played. If Golden were fired, you might want to wait to do that until one of your targets was no longer playing.

2. A new year just came in. Buyout numbers on coaches' contracts may decline or go away in 2015.

3. They may be waiting for Al to make recommendations on the replacements of his assistants, or for him to change his mind about recommendations he's already made.

There may be others.

Or there may not. Maybe the BoT is genuinely indifferent, as the most serious of the doom-and-gloomers would have it. (Well, there is a fringe group of DnGers that think there is a plan underfoot to destroy the football program, but in general 'indifferent' is about as strong as it gets.)

We just. Don't. Know.

Old Skool

HeHeHeHeHe

Video taken from the field as Oregon celebrated its 59-20 win in the College Football Playoff semifinal showed at least three players chanting “No means no!” to the tune of a chant used by Florida State fans.

BigWindyCane1

We lost out on some good recriuts but There are still some good recruits out there. Regardless of the coaching situation, I hope we can close with a few of them down the stretch. I would be surprised if Golden is not coaching next season. Golden will start 2015 on the hotseat like Muschamp did at UF this season. 6-6 in 2015 might get Golden fired. He will be coaching for his job.

It seems improbable that the Canes would make a change at this point without having a replacement in mind. Most programs have made their changes already.

360Cane

Still no hires and still no fires. The product must not need improvement. []_[]

Ohio_Cane

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Itsa_Canes_Thing

Like a lot pf people are saying right now, it is way to quiet at UM. The only person that has said anything is Blake. I do think that initially the thought was to retain Al, but as a number of people have mentioned the situation right now is was to toxic. The only thing that can be done now is cleaning house. Even if Al was retained and he fired a number of coaches I honestly don't think he knows enough people in the business to put together a solid staff, that is why is is constantly hiring from the HS level. UM needs to look around and really ask themselves how they can beat the Bama's, the OSU's and Oregon's let alone the other teams in the ACC for that matter. Pitt had a solid HC hire. UNC hires Chizick as DC. This is our yearly competition and as of yet we haven't done anything.

dj moonbat

Interesting to see what will hapoen with AlPa, D'noPa and company....lot of rumors hard to differentiate between reality and fantasy. I would like to see a good solid change, but I do not think a firing and another quick impulse bad hire is the answer.

Posted by: VA CANE | January 02, 2015 at 08:49 AM


There's no way in hell they would fire a coach NOW and replace him with a developmental project. IF they were to do it, they'd be picking off a pretty short list.

VA CANE

Interesting to see what will hapoen with AlPa, D'noPa and company....lot of rumors hard to differentiate between reality and fantasy. I would like to see a good solid change, but I do not think a firing and another quick impulse bad hire is the answer.
AlPa was not really a hot commodity with the big boys.....they knew Temple was not really a revival as they are not a big program. We were desperate....obviously. If it happens, it needs to be a strong hire....Butch would be great....but don't think it would happen. Needs to be someone dynamic...not necessarily a Cane but someone who knows what UM is about....winning dammit!

tjl3909

meanwhile we stand pat:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12109040/former-auburn-tigers-coach-gene-chizik-accepts-job-north-carolina-tar-heels-defensive-coordinator

raizecane

This is how I felt when I woke up new years day.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QIdZH9g_Z4

Happy New Year, Gang

SOUP

Nate Webster

j.w.

When things are too good to be true comes to mind. Hoping I'm wrong again.

j.w.

511

The Dude

Good night all. Someone wake me up if there's any announcement.

CoCane

The Dude,

I live my resilience...

I'm in love with the coco!

The Dude

GD

Posted by: CoCane | January 02, 2015 at 01:14 AM

I admire your resilience.

The Dude

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 02, 2015 at 01:10 AM

I got people. Lol.

WWIN

^^^^^^^ how would one know you were joking when that's the typical stuff you post? Lol

CoCane

GD

Go Canes

I hope you know I was joking.

Ohio_Cane

TD, U have no part of my contract, nor do U know what's in it. I'm a private institution and it wasn't publicly disclosed lol

WWIN

I don't like Urban, but he does have that Killa Instinct!!!

WWIN

Maybe it was Butch who post Golden resigns.

He was posting on CIS last night wasn't he?

Posted by: Go Canes | January 02, 2015 at 12:17 AM

You mad bro??????? Lol

The Dude

My bad, didn't see it posted. Was skimming and watching football. Shoot me. Lol

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 02, 2015 at 01:01 AM

You get no life, I believe it's in your contract. Also I believe the punishment by shooting would violate SOUP's expectations that your sentence should be work related shome how.

The Dude

Dont worry because if the rumors are true and Al is fired by Monday, then we all need to get on weather.com to see weather patterns over Africa my guess is that there will be an unusually large depression that the locals have named "Butch" which of course is African for the phoenix hurricane of every 2 decades.

Ohio_Cane

My bad, didn't see it posted. Was skimming and watching football. Shoot me. Lol

VA Cane

Don't care for them either.....however as a coach I, give Urban M and players credit they deserve...you do not get lucky when you beat#1....they came to play and were the aggressor....they took it right at at the teeth of that D...its great to win the big games....I have been so blessed its a great feeling.

We will never know as long as AlPa captains our ship, with him at the helm we are rudderless....process is lost cause, the 300 page guide is a worthless map to nowhere.

WWIN

WWIM...Now U know better than that. Do not let your ignorance block your intelligence from seeing the truth.

Posted by: 86Cane | January 02, 2015 at 12:14 AM

C'mon 86. So if we took a survey would more people agree that UM cares about winning or would more people believe they don't??? It would be a landslide right?

But yet your debating and saying they do care as if it were a fact.

86Cane

OSU comes back to beat Bama.

#Impressive

roachcane77

UGH... I HATE OSU!

VA Cane

Tim Spencers son is impressive....great pass for TD, big block on last td, great recovery of onside kick. Elliott is a fine back good OL...he's over 230 yards.Very good game.

VA Cane

Not a big Urban fan, but the man knows how to coach and prepare for big games. Sure he is a little greasy, but he prepares his team well AND his team follow his plans...and win. There is no doubt Oregon is not soft and OSU belongs in the mix. They have pounded Bama into submission...running the ball, blocking the hell out them, hitting and hurting...intimidating the big dog on the block.
I give Urban M credit....he knows how to coach and win....done it every stop.

mi@mic@ne

3 4 sucs that is all

mi@mic@ne

satan is going down tonight

The Dude

^^^ cause you posted that story after djmb already did.

The Dude

^^^ kidding around O_C. Now post about how next year you'll be providing real leadership.

Ohio_Cane

TD, what are U talking about? I'm lacking coaching?

The Dude

Butch is hustling Miami for Al's job.

The Dude

Posted by: Go Canes | January 02, 2015 at 12:17 AM

I wouldn't put it past him right now.

The Dude

^^^ FSU should have played a softer zone.

Go Canes

Maybe it was Butch who post Golden resigns.

He was posting on CIS last night wasn't he?

roachcane77

AG's NOT going to resign at 12:15am on Semi-Final night.

He's probably been watching the games believing his 3-4 Nofense could have stopped the Ducks!

VA Cane

Go Pa,
I do respect you....your love of meaningless stats ...to justify AlPas continued employment, your denial of facts and making excuses suggest that you might have been a cheerleader at some time. You seem unaware and unconcerned that
fundamentals, recruiting, player development, dynamic and innovative schemes, aggression and attack, compotent coaching.....all combined with natural talent so players are in postion to make plays each down are keys to success...ie....championships. In the end the vital stat is W-L.....you got to win to get there.
AlPa has shown he cannot do it in big time CFB...just a fact....not a call for cruxifiction. We cannot continue on this path, the death knell is audible in the distance.
Besides, somone has to lead the cheers and you lead them for AlPa......I dub thee Sir GoPa!!

86Cane

WWIM...Now U know better than that. Do not let your ignorance block your intelligence from seeing the truth.

SinisterCane

Posted by: The Dude | January 02, 2015 at 12:11 AM

Somebody go check on Go Canes, make sure he's' ok

The Dude

Someone with a membership needs to check that one out.

The Dude

Its like this GOLDEN RESIGNS!!!!

Posted by: mi@mic@ne | January 02, 2015 at 12:04 AM

Huh?

WWIN

No, I had a good reason.

Posted by: 86Cane | January 01, 2015 at 11:55 PM

Which was??? Your opinion??? Lol

Your blog your rules, blog on!

mi@mic@ne

Its like this GOLDEN RESIGNS!!!!

mi@mic@ne

Theres a post in canesport that has exclamation that says GOLDEN RESIGNS

86Cane

1mg of Epi, a idiot for no good reason!

Posted by: WWIM | January 01, 2015 at 10:54 PM

No, I had a good reason.

The Dude

O_C you slipping. Your support of Golden through the 2014 season shows your lacking coaching. Lol. But you know what, it's potentially good news so the more the merrier.

86Cane

471

roachcane77

Don't we want him to not eat crow?
Posted by: The Dude | January 01, 2015 at 11:22 PM


Uh, yeah. (...oops, my bad.)

J'Ville Cane

I hate seeing these Busta azz teams putting up those 4 fingers. That is our sh!t!!

#weneedtheswagback#

Ohio_Cane

From CIS:

Don't kill the messenger. Word is, Golden gone by Monday.
Just got a call from a good friend.

Word is, that their was up 10 possible decommitments as well. Lot of recruits upset from after the season.


Same source from when I found out Olsen got in trouble over the off-season the day before it hit internet.


Hope this one hits again. Just relaying the info. If I'm wrong I'll eat crow but I try to share what I get and what is told to me.

I'm praying this weekend. Happy New Year... hopefully.

dj moonbat

Is Go Canes gonna be leaving on Monday too?

Posted by: SinisterCane | January 01, 2015 at 11:35 PM


No, he'll be here bright and early to tell us how excited he is about the new chapter that's opening in 'Canes history. He won't be able to understand why we can't be more supportive of the new guy.

The Dude

^^^ lol

SinisterCane

LOL:

Did the ACC check bounce or did they withhold the money because they are not paying UM football for fraud.

SinisterCane

Posted by: dj moonbat | January 01, 2015 at 11:00 PM

Is Go Canes gonna be leaving on Monday too?

The Dude

#bestagentinthebusiness

WWIN

Was I the first to start using the word toxic?

Posted by: The Dude | January 01, 2015 at 09:52 PM

I'll make sure you get your royalties!

The Dude

Don't we want him to not eat crow?

roachcane77

C'Mon Bama! Geez!

dj moonbat

Wow, what is must be like to have a defensive line that can pressure the QB...

Posted by: roachcane77 | January 01, 2015 at 11:15 PM


Or stop the run.

roachcane77

OK, here's hoping THAT guy on CIS has to eat crow!

#NOTHAPPENINTHOUGH

The Dude

Thanks.

dj moonbat

Article written about 7 pm PST. By Geo305.

roachcane77

Wow, what is must be like to have a defensive line that can pressure the QB...

dj moonbat

Here's hoping you have to eat crow though!

Posted by: roachcane77 | January 01, 2015 at 11:07 PM


Not me. I'm just passing along the rumor.

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