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December 11, 2014

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BigWindyCane1

The recruits want to make it to the NFL. The Canes are doing a better job at producing draft picks than wins. 6 wins and 10 draft picks. Seems to be a trend. 2 first round picks? Another 2 or 3 second and third round picks? Here is the recruiting strategy - just sell the recruits on the fact that the U gives you a better chance at getting drafted.

WWIN

Soup, any word on how LB is doing? I been praying for him!

SOUP

NEW BLOG IS UP!

WWIN

1. For starters Spurrier, Strong, Beamer, Kelly went 6-6 ot 7-5 this year. As did the BIG time coaches at Tenn and TAMU.

2. Hoke and Muschamp got fired for going 5-7 and 6-5. But neither had the NCAA thing for 3 years as pointed out.

Posted by: 86Cane | December 12, 2014 at 03:19 PM

1. Soup are you really counting Strong in his first year? Spurrier is over the hill now and it won't be long before he retires. Kelly and Beamer have never been great coaches to me, they have had good years at times tho. Jones and Sumlin just took over their teams and shouldn't be included.

2. Both got fired so they're irrelevant.

WWIN

Glad to see the blog running like normal today! Lol

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The Dude

If Duke comes back does Miami lose a RB commit?

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dj moonbat

Anyone actually think it's worse for Duke to come back?

Posted by: The Dude | December 12, 2014 at 05:49 PM


It's definitely worse for Duke to come back.

If he's coming back it's his last chance to win a championship, that shows he's suffered terrible brain damage.

He's more likely to have an injury than he is to have a season better than this one. And who's to say there won't be some other Melvin Gordon type next year?

Duke has shown the NFL what he can do. The fact that the NFL doesn't place the same value on that they once did is a bummer, but it's not going to change this offseason.

dj moonbat

Why do people think that Al would be fired in 2015 if he went 7-5? Seems funny to me. Miami is as happy as pigs in sh*t right now with 6 wins. Miami's only hope is that James Franklin goes to the NFL. Another hope is if the new president cares about football.

Posted by: The Dude | December 12, 2014 at 05:45 PM


I think 7-5 might get him fired. But 8-4, no way. Improvement. Then, if he goes 6-6 or 5-7, it's characterized as a momentary setback amid all that improvement. Etc.

The Dude

Anyone actually think it's worse for Duke to come back?

The Dude

Why do people think that Al would be fired in 2015 if he went 7-5? Seems funny to me. Miami is as happy as pigs in sh*t right now with 6 wins. Miami's only hope is that James Franklin goes to the NFL. Another hope is if the new president cares about football.

AeroCane

Guys - golden sucks! Time to move on. If we keep him in 2015 it will be more of the same. Below average. (And I know some will say, 6-6 is average - Not when 2 of the wins were gimmies, and we still can't win the freakin Coastal)! Fire him already and move on. I can't stand watching this team and him standing on the sidelines anymore.

dj moonbat

What question?

Posted by: Go Canes | December 12, 2014 at 05:20 PM


Precisely. Who's on first, what's on second, perfectly clear's on third...

Go Canes

Posted by: 86Cane | December 12, 2014 at 05:24 PM

I don't understand what's so confusing about it. Really.

86Cane

Show me where he said that. Lol.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 12, 2014 at 05:12 PM

I think his position is perfectly clear. LOL

1mg of Epi

Lol that was my interpretation of what was said, because nothing was actually said. Ever.

Go Canes

What question?

dj moonbat

Go canes... So you're saying AG is as bad as the last guy. Ok

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 12, 2014 at 04:42 PM


Show me where he said that. Lol.

Da U N Houston


How many games does Golden have to win next year to keep his job? I say 9 to 10.

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | December 12, 2014 at 03:25 PM


Has to win the ACC, point blank!! Even if he makes it to the championship game and loses, if another coach is available he has to go.

Da U N Houston


Do or Die for Golden in 2015

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 12, 2014 at 03:19 PM

Understatement!!!

dj moonbat

I wonder what Temple and Miami's combined records were in the 55 games each before he got there?

Posted by: Go Canes | December 12, 2014 at 04:21 PM


And I wonder when you'll actually answer a question directly yourself. Suck it.

Go Canes

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 12, 2014 at 04:53 PM

yep.

Go Canes

Very interesting read. Sounds familiar.

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The Dude

Year four, 6-6, no further statements your Honor.

Ohio_Cane

Golden's record at Temple is irrelevant considering he took over a team that went 0-12 just about every year lol

The Dude

Continued Corben: “This is great. The turnout is unbelievable. [FIU Athletic Director] Pete Garcia is here, which is awesome. Go Fighting GEDs! Or whatever the hell that FIU team is!

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 12, 2014 at 04:09 PM

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Slam.

SinisterCane

^^^^^^^^
Golden was 27-34 at Temple before he came to UM

SinisterCane

Posted by: Go Canes | December 12, 2014 at 04:21 PM

Golden was 27-43 at Temple before he came to UM

Shannon was 28-22 before Golden arrive.

1mg of Epi

That's the problem we keep hiring bad coaches.

1mg of Epi

Go canes... So you're saying AG is as bad as the last guy. Ok

Go Canes

Career Record: 9 Years, 55-55

Bowl Record: 2 Bowls, 0-2,

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 12, 2014 at 03:50 PM

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I wonder what Temple and Miami's combined records were in the 55 games each before he got there?

30CINCO

Note to Billy Corben/Alfred Spellman: Thanks for the memories! (the rest of U tune in at 9 p.m. Saturday)

Tonight, I asked filmmaker Billy Corben which of his ESPN "30 for 30" documentaries was his favorite: The U, or the world premiere sequel, The U Part 2 – the one that about 400 folks watched Thursday at The Colony Theater on Lincoln Road in Miami Beach.

I savored The U Part 2, my favorite, but that’s understandable, because those were the years I started covering University of Miami football – right there along with the introduction of Butch Davis as head coach in 1995.

So for me, this movie, produced by Alfred Spellman as well as Corben, was my easy choice.

Billy had a more diplomatic answer.

“Listen,’’ he said, after a hearty, laugh-tinged, “Oh!

"Movies are like children. You have your favorites, but you don’t tell anybody which one.’’

And as millions of college football fans and Hurricanes aficionadas anxiously await the first nationally televised showing of 30 for 30: The U Part II at 9 p.m. Saturday following the Heisman Trophy ceremony, Corben will keep tinkering with it until it’s time to air.

“We’re going back to the office and we’re going to finish it,’’ said Corben, who might break a world record for no sleep. “I mean there’s a bunch of things we’ve got to tweak. It’s the longest stretch I’ve had without the movie, which was on the plane ride [back from Bristol, Connecticut, home of ESPN]. We’ve been living with this for six months. It helps to get a little distance and objectivity to be able to say, ‘What can we do to tweak it?’ We’ve got a few things to do tonight.

“We’ve got like 36 hours, right? So, we’ve got plenty of time!’’

Continued Corben: “This is great. The turnout is unbelievable. [FIU Athletic Director] Pete Garcia is here, which is awesome. Go Fighting GEDs! Or whatever the hell that FIU team is!

“The chaos outside – and inside – has kind of like an Orange Bowl vibe to it. It kind of has an Orange Bowl smell to it, too, now that I think of it.”

The night was pure joy, from reconnecting with Butch Davis and Garcia, who came together and sat next to me, to seeing the guys I spent the glory years covering: Randy Phillips, Joaquin Gonzalez. Sherko Haji-Rasouli, Javon Nanton, Bryant McKinnie, Brett Romberg, Phillip Buchanan and dear, dear Donnie Soldinger and Phyllis (phenomenal, old-school coach and his wonderful wife – an amazing couple).

Former UM defensive line coach Greg Mark and his wife were there, and Uncle Luke (didn’t even see him), Canes classic Harry Rothwell and his son, Larry Milian and his son, former UM baseball star Javy Rodriguez, my colleagues Dan LeBatard and Papi, beat writers in crime Matt Porter and Christy Cabrera Chirinos and goodness knows how many others I missed.

I asked Butch Davis how he felt about being there.

“It feels great. I’m excited about it,’’ Davis said. “It has been a terrific project. I hope it’s as successful as the first one. The few days I got a chance to talk to Billy about it and actually do some of the interviews I had a chance to run into Najeh Davenport and a lot of those guys. And I kind of helped Billy a little, tiny bit with some of the guys he was having a hard time getting in touch with – Kellen Winslow, Jr., he was down living in Austin.”

I asked Butch, if given the opportunity, would he ever return to the Hurricanes to coach. He avoided that question (I think the answer, in my opinion, is yes). He did, however, gush about his time with the Canes.

“I want to coach again someplace,” he said. “I’d love to have an opportunity to coach. It will come out in the movie. The 11 years I spent coaching in Miami were probably the greatest, most instrumental years that happened in my life. I am so grateful that Jimmy Johnson brought me to Miami and gave me a chance to be an assistant coach here and come back and be a head coach.

“Almost everything that I was ever able to accomplish as a coach, its roots took place in Miami. I am grateful for having been here.’’

Now, for the movie, I just LOVED all of it. SO MANY MEMORIES!! I was at every one of those games – from Edgerrin James’ UCLA explosion to the Syracuse stinker in the Carrier Dome to the Washington whipping in the Orange Bowl to the Washington loss that preceded the 34-game winning streak to the Rose Bowl national championship to the Fiesta Bowl national… Oops. I mean, double-overtime loss.

And so on, and so on.

Donnie Soldinger was terrific in the movie (so much heart), Davis was an excellent narrator of sorts, and the players were compelling, funny, forthright, intriguing to watch and hear. Even Kellen Winslow ranting (Guess who asked him the question that got him going on his famous rant? Haha) struck a chord.

Al Blades’ wild hair made me laugh (and feel melancholy) and Santana Moss and little bro Sinorice are two of my favorites.

Watching Nevin Shapiro run out of the smoke-filled tunnel was pathetic, as was watching the Canes get that pass interference called on poor Glenn Sharpe.

Re things that are yellow and fly: Billy, the ending was terrific.

I would go into more specifics, but guess what people? I have University of Miami bowl practice numero uno at 9:30 a.m. Friday – and guess what time it is now?

3:40 a.m.

So, I must try to sleep now for a very few hours. then head to cover The U: Part (fill in the blank) at Greentree Field.

Good night everyone.

And thank you again, Billy and Alfred.

It’s all about you – and the U.

SUSAN MILLER DEGNAN

Ohio_Cane

Maybe old news but David Njoku has been moved to TE

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 12, 2014 at 03:55 PM
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Saw that. Was only a matter of time for him and Gayot to be moved where we thought they'd be moved.

SinisterCane

Did anybody from the Admin go to The U part 2 premiere?

SinisterCane

Maybe old news but David Njoku has been moved to TE

SinisterCane

Career Record: 9 Years, 55-55

Bowl Record: 2 Bowls, 0-2,

SinisterCane

Anybody can find stats fore/against Golden, this is why you should judge him by win/losses.

1mg of Epi

I can understand if someone thinks AG deserves another year because he was lied to re: Nevin Shapiro. I don't agree, but I understand. On the other hand, To argue that AG deserves another year because he has demonstrated competency... No. There is no evidence of that beyond recruiting. In fact, it would be much easier to make a solid case that Al is in way over is head. A case backed up w examples and instances of his work on the field.

Al has plenty of supporters around the program who are more than happy to go on the radio or TV and tell us he deserves more time. Not a single one of them will give a football reason, or site examples of work on the field. None of them say he's a good coach. Just that he's a coach who was lied to.

If you guys wanna argue that we owe him time because of the cloud.. Ok. But don't dumb the conversation down by trying to persuade anyone that he's a good coach.

Go Canes

The Dude | December 12, 2014 at 03:12 PM

I'm pretty sure that happened because we had eight starters suspended.

30CINCO

Was The ACC The Nation's Best College Football Conference in 2014?

Conventional wisdom, eyeballs and recruiting rankings suggest the SEC is the superior conference. However, looking at non-conference performance this season. That wasn’t the case. Inter-conference collisions are rare, meaning data is imperfect and limited. But, perusing the non-conference results for 2014, the nation’s most impressive conference was the oft-maligned ACC.

Here’s a ranking of the Power 5 conferences. We tabulated their records against other Power 5 teams and Top 50 teams using Sports Reference’s SRS rankings. We also noted non-conference losses to teams outside the SRS Top 60. (We see you, Big Ten) Notre Dame was lumped in as a Power 5 team.

http://thebiglead.com/2014/12/03/was-the-acc-the-nations-best-college-football-conference-in-2014/

roachcane77

http://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2008/04/memories-and-ma.html
Posted by: SOUP | December 11, 2014 at 10:16 PM

Very nice. Great tribute.

SinisterCane

For the past 4 yrs. Golden has out-recruited everybody in the coastal and the best he could give us is last place in the coastal

1mg of Epi

You're also including first year coaches. Oh and lets not forget AG plays in the JV division of the weakest conference

thirstybuzzardcane

If Miami's D is down right awful against South Carolina, I expect D'no to get his pink slip!

1mg of Epi

Soup... you are comparing coaches who've had bad years to a coach whose had a bad career.

thirstybuzzardcane

How many games does Golden have to win next year to keep his job? I say 9 to 10.

30CINCO

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | December 12, 2014 at 03:19 PM
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All of it factored in, still 14 ranked total defense.

Ohio_Cane

Do or Die for Golden in 2015

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 12, 2014 at 03:19 PM
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No one can argue this.

30CINCO

Is that why Miami lost to Maryland?

Posted by: The Dude | December 12, 2014 at 03:12 PM
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In 2011???

6 starters were suspended for the opener vs Maryland thanks to the "cloud".

So actually,YES, cloud is a big reason for that loss.

86Cane

Epi...just read the list I posted above and look where they were ranked in recruiting and draw your own conclusions.

For starters Spurrier, Strong, Beamer, Kelly went 6-6 ot 7-5 this year. As did the BIG time coaches at Tenn and TAMU.

Hoke and Muschamp got fired for going 5-7 and 6-5. But neither had the NCAA thing for 3 years as pointed out.

SinisterCane

Do or Die for Golden in 2015

thirstybuzzardcane


15th ranked D is a statistical FACT, whether one likes it or not.

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 12, 2014 at 01:31 PM
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Please factor in our poor special teams coverage! Of course your going to have good defensive stats (Total Yards) when your opponent starts from the 40 every time. I can count on 1 finger how many touchbacks we had this year!

1mg of Epi

#top20talent
#bottom20results

thirstybuzzardcane


This may sound ridiculous, but with the Gayot move to LB, I think Golden and staff are confident about Tim Irvin.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 12, 2014 at 01:53 PM
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Your right, you sound ridiculous....LOL! Or you can look at it that the coaching staff isn't very confident in our LB's for next year.

dj moonbat

How many of them had the NCAA up their arses for nearly three years?

Posted by: Go Canes | December 12, 2014 at

Unless your point is that the NCAA as part of their sanctions required D'no to run that scheme... Then what does it matter?

I will use your statements of the level of talent on this team as proof for my argument.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 12, 2014 at 03:10 PM


This should be used as a case study in a textbook on Troll Management.

UpNorthCane27

Our Defensive scheme sucks ass!!

The Cloud screwed us!!!


Ohio_Cane

Canespace ‏@86Cane now

Very important weekend for #UM. OV's for Tim Irvin, Dex Williams, Carlton & Javarius Davis, Charles Perry, and Jaquan Johnson. Maybe more?

The Dude

Posted by: Go Canes | December 12, 2014 at 03:04 PM

Is that why Miami lost to Maryland?

1mg of Epi

How many of them had the NCAA up their arses for nearly three years?

Posted by: Go Canes | December 12, 2014 at

Unless your point is that the NCAA as part of their sanctions required D'no to run that scheme... Then what does it matter?

I will use your statements of the level of talent on this team as proof for my argument.

1mg of Epi

You can have all the talent in the world, but if your play book includes a prevent on the goal line it won't matter.

Go Canes

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 12, 2014 at 03:03 PM

How many of them had the NCAA up their arses for nearly three years?

1mg of Epi

What does it mean when those teams that have the talent, AND have coaches that are thought to be good-to-great, yet their team still have 6-6 & 7-5 records?
Posted by: 30CINCO | December 12, 2014 at 01:13 PM
That is a REALLY good question. Several BIG name, BIG time coaches making millions of dollars on that list also must be "wasting all that talent".
Posted by: 86Cane | December 12, 2014 at 02:32 PM

There are BIG name BIG time coaches who are consistently 6-6ish? With lifetime records vs power 5 around the same .500? Pray tell who are they??

86Cane

You're gonna get yourself banned with that kind of talk.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 12, 2014 at 02:40 PM

I ain't scurred. LOL

Go Canes

Lol.

You guys are funny.

30CINCO

Correction: Miami is actually 14th in Total Defense

VA Cane

PRODUCTION trumps talent ALL DAY!

The bottom line.....talent, talk, Process, Promises, all the crap we have heard since 2003....and from this staff.....means nothing. You can believe in it all you want....cause if you do, you never played the damn game!!!!!! you can defend it all you want, but you are wrong. AlPa is a nice cat, but he is not a major college coach in reality....who understands fundamentals, development, aggression and coaching. I will pull for the team, love them, but we will not win with AlPa....yet we are stuck for 5 more years of the BS. Life sentence no parole.....sad!!!!

J'Ville Cane

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 12, 2014 at 02:48 PM

Exactly.

That's the new standard around here, can't you tell.

dj moonbat

You're gonna get yourself banned with that kind of talk.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 12, 2014 at 02:40 PM


Hey, if you want to be the guy who says he thinks it's just fine how Golden's done with the players UM has -- I mean, just look at all those other sh!tty coaches -- you go right ahead.

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@PeterAriz: Carlton Davis is at Miami for his official #Canes

dj moonbat

UMSHoF member Gino Torretta became the 2nd Miami Hurricanes football player to be named the winner of the Heisman Trophy Award!

Posted by: 86Cane | December 12, 2014 at 02:26 PM


Not only did he beat Marshall Faulk -- clearly a better football player -- he wasn't even the 'Canes best players that year. If they were going to give it to a UM player, they shoulda given it to Micheal Barrow.

Go Canes

Posted by: 86Cane | December 12, 2014 at 02:32 PM

You're gonna get yourself banned with that kind of talk.

86Cane

It would be funny to see normal people trying to tackle Cook.

Posted by: The Dude | December 12, 2014 at 01:32 PM

Or Duke Johnson.

He would either break your ankles or stiff arm U into the turf and U would get up embarrassed and spitting turf!

86Cane

What does it mean when those teams that have the talent, AND have coaches that are thought to be good-to-great, yet their team still have 6-6 & 7-5 records?

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 12, 2014 at 01:13 PM

That is a REALLY good question. Several BIG name, BIG time coaches making millions of dollars on that list also must be "wasting all that talent".

Go Canes

@mattyports: Tyriq McCord said he sent paperwork to NFL Draft Advisory Board. Like Deon Bush, Duke Johnson, he hasn't heard back.

86Cane

On This Date In History...December 12th, 1992 brought to you by the UM Sports Hall of Fame:

UMSHoF member Gino Torretta became the 2nd Miami Hurricanes football player to be named the winner of the Heisman Trophy Award!

Torretta tallied 1400 points and 310 first place votes from the 985 selectors. He beat out San Diego State's Marshall Faulk, (1,080 pts.-164 1st place votes) and Georgia's Garrison Hearst (982-140) to join Vinny Testaverde as the only Miami Hurricanes to win the prestigious award!

The Dude

Exactly j.w.

j.w.


15th ranked D is a statistical FACT, whether one likes it or not.

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 12, 2014 at 01:31 PM
So are the facts that we rank 56th in 3rd down defense, 106th in penalty yards per game, 68th in red zone defense, 55th in turnover margin, 41st in first downs allowed, 83rd in time of possession, 109th in TFL, 64th in sacks, and 38th in rushing yards allowed.
And for the record, you are wrong, we were 14th in Total Defense, mostly because we finished 9th in the nation in passing yards allowed. However, we were 76th in interceptions, allowed 57% of passes to be completed, and opponents ran the ball 105 more times against our Defense than they passed. Because we couldn't get off the field, lost the TOP battle consistently, the total yards allowed and passing stats might be lower because teams didn't need to pass to score or control the game.

SinisterCane

The CANEZ are going to be super young next year

dj moonbat

No, 15th ranked D is an incomplete statistic.

Posted by: The Dude | December 12, 2014 at 01:33 PM


It is, however, the most commonly cited statistic for evaluating a defense overall -- though lots of people prefer scoring defense.

The enormous, gaping flaw with this year's defense was that it gave up reliable short- to mid-yardage plays all day long. This gave opposing offenses manageable down/distance, and made the defense give up lots of drive-sustaining first downs. It made it agonizing to watch. Just when you thought they were about to do something good, there would be another first down; then a second and six; then a third and two; repeat until defeated.

But the facts are the facts -- in terms of surrendering total yardage per game, UM's defense just wasn't that bad.

Ohio_Cane

This may sound ridiculous, but with the Gayot move to LB, I think Golden and staff are confident about Tim Irvin.

Ohio_Cane

Susan Miller Degnan ‏@smillerdegnan 5m5 minutes ago

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dj moonbat

Players who don't live up to expectations under Saban "hit their ceiling earlier than anyone thought", but under a poor gameday coach they're "not being developed". It's really an in-arguable argument.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 12, 2014 at 01:01 PM


Not just poor gameday coaching. By most accounts, Butch was no great shakes as a gameday coach. But the practice days were completely under control. I seriously think that Golden and his staff just aren't getting through to these kids most of the time, and they don't even realize it.

The whole operation is just not coached effectively. Questionable playcalling and poor clock management are examples of "gameday coaching" that are being poorly executed. But every time we cover or return a kick on gameday, we see evidence of the level of execution that is being reinforced during the week. And that's not even getting into the *schematic* shortcomings of the coaching; just the chaos in execution.

Ohio_Cane

It would be funny to see normal people trying to tackle Cook.

Posted by: The Dude | December 12, 2014 at 01:32 PM
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I would pay to see this. Lol

The Dude

It's not correct when you use it to imply that Miami is defensively sound.

The Dude

15th ranked in total yards.

The Dude

No, 15th ranked D is an incomplete statistic.

Go Canes

Posted by: CaneRock | December 12, 2014 at 01:23 PM

We gave up less yardage and fewer points to Louisville and Georgia Tech than FSU did.

How can we not have been in the game?

The Dude

It would be funny to see normal people trying to tackle Cook.

30CINCO

15th ranked D is a statistical FACT, whether one likes it or not.

30CINCO

AND we have evidence on how that would play out with Fentress vs Cook in a 1 on 1 battle.

Cook beat him for a td on one play.
Fentress tackled him in the open field to save a td on another play, 50/50.

The Dude

Posted by: Go Canes | December 12, 2014 at 01:21 PM

You think the team quit? It sure seems that way.

The Dude

30C,

I know sometimes you like to get under peoples skin with that 15 rank defense. But seriously at this point it's seriously misleading. We are 15 in total yardage. I posted a ton of defensive statistics that are shockingly bad. Including in my opinion the most telling statistic about our team, tackles for loss, which we rank in the bottom 100's. We do not have one of the 15 best defenses in CF. Period. End of story. No more debate.

UpNorthCane27

probably cook and abdullah cuz they seem to have more wiggle then conner. but yea thats a tough matchup for any Safety who is not named Sean Taylor.

30CINCO

*In a 1 on 1 battle

30CINCO

Posted by: CaneRock | December 12, 2014 at 01:20 PM
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I personally would take those 3 RB's over about 98.5% of the safeties in college.

UpNorthCane27

We should've never lost to anyone point blank!!!!!

CaneRock


Oh, and when U do well in the 1st half, but poorly in the 2nd half, that generally points to poor depth, or lack of conditioning.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 12, 2014 at 12:59 PM

I disagree. Schematically, we were never in the Louisville,NU,GT, & Pitt games.

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