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December 11, 2014

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Go Canes

It ain't easy loving the Canes sometimes.

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1mg of Epi

For all the wishing and hoping for wiscy to hire AG, are we really sure we want this prez to be involved in chosing our next head coach? At this point everybody in the know has acknowledged our suspicions that this admin could really care less about winning football games and Donna has proven her ineptitude when it comes to picking coaches. So.... Do we want Donna to be in the position to pick another failure? Won't we be stand a better chance rolling the dice and seeing if the next prez can do better?

SOUP

CINCO...U ROCK!

SOUP

WWIM...U owe me BIG time! IJS

IraqiCane

[]__[]!!!

Go Canes

The U on espn 2

YooperCane

GO PACK GO!

Terrance Sullivan

Soup U are the man Brotha. What a Fine Outstanding Leaf Savanah is. Good Gawd!

Go Canes

@AKuperstein: Just watched The U Part 2. It will be the best things to happen to Miami recruiting since the first film. Excellent work by @BillyCorben

SOUP

The highlight of the 2007 UM football season?

Nothing beats beating FSU at the Doak!

If you recall, Kyle Wright went down in a heap late in the second quarter. In steps season starter, but current bench warmer, Kirby Freeman to save the day. Then, Kirby, who just so happens to be named after a famous vacuum cleaner company because well, you know why, proceeds to go all of 1 for 8 with two interceptions before "The Drive".

That's right, the Kirbomatic had completed MORE passes to the team wearing Garnett and Gold than his own team. Then some how, some way he summoned the strength from the "U" tattoo on his back and put the entire team on his back to lead the winning drive with around two minutes to play in the game.

Kirby to Jenkins; a few Cooper and JJ runs; Jenkins again; and then BOOM, a perfect pass to the seldom used TE in the right corner of the end zone to put the Canes in the lead by one point!

Colin McCarthy's scoop and score fumble return for a TD 11 seconds later sealed the deal for the Canes, quieted the Doak Campbell crowd and propelled first year Canes Head Coach Randy Shannon to his first victory over Coach Bowden in their first ever head-to-head meeting.

WWIN

WWIM...U owe me BIG time! IJS

Posted by: SOUP | December 11, 2014 at 08:32 PM

Yeah but I should get a discount for getting you the blog title! Lol

SOUP

From 2008 and nothing to do with the Canes. U don't have to click, but if U do I would be thankful:

http://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2008/04/memories-and-ma.html

Terrance Sullivan

That's was awesome to read about your Father in Law story from 2008. Thank U for sharing that.

SOUP

Yeah but I should get a discount for getting you the blog title! Lol

Posted by: WWIM | December 11, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Actually, that will cost U EXTRA.

SOUP

Thanks Sully, it meant a lot to me.

SOUP

More from the past:

http://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2008/05/loving-every-mi.html

SOUP

UMike's first article, 6 years ago on Canespace:

http://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2008/05/loving-every-mi.html

Ohio_Cane

Brooklyn (NY) ASA College OT Jahair Jones is getting the full-court press from Miami coaches.

Coach Al Golden visited him at Brooklyn (NY) ASA College yesterday with James Coley and Mark D'Onofrio in tow, but coaches didn't stop there.

They flew to his home state Maryland immediately afterward to meet with his mother and grandmother.

"That showed that they really care about my best interests," Jones said.

Jones said when he met with coaches "They were saying how they had a great quarterback, how they ran the offense, that they'll be an ACC championship contender. They said that they made mistakes they shouldn't have made this season. And going down there on my visit, I hadn't been to Miami before and I loved it."

Coaches told him they want him at left tackle and that he can compete to play right away.

Jones says the attention from Miami has paid off.

"Miami, they're the top one for me now," Jones said.

He's choosing between UM and Virginia Tech and plans to announce Dec. 18 after he returns home for the holidays.

Virginia Tech coaches have already taken an in-home visit with him - "I'm done with home visits," he said.

So the Canes' chances of staying on top through when he signs (he's an early arrival)?

"A big chance, 60-40," Jones said.

He says what will make the final difference is when he talks more with his family.

"They feel comfortable with Miami, but they're also comfortable with Tech," Jones said. "I'll talk to my mom and figure out that stuff. She says go with the best opportunity for me, the best exposure."


^^^ There's the JUCO OL we've been expecting ^^^

laquinton

 Do we want Donna to be in the position to pick another failure? Won't we be stand a better chance rolling the dice and seeing if the next prez can do better?

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 11, 2014 at 08:30 PM


How is a president even chosen ? Is there a pool of applicants ? Donna may not like sports but she does help recruit and that ncaa mess she was right there front and center every time it seemed like. Is Condi Rice availible ?

Sarasota 'cane

Looking at the pictures of Butch Davis, Billy Corbin, and all the boys at the The U Part 2 premiere on Twitter makes me sick to my stomach. Butch wants to coach the canes and yet we're stuck with Al Folden through 2019!

It's a travesty of epic proportions! It'll feel even worse after we watch the documentary on Saturday!

SOUP

Sota...I felt the same way. And when they ended the documentary with the OB was torn down in 2008, I threw up.

1mg of Epi

Posted by: laquinton | December 11, 2014 at 11:12 PM

She does nothing different than any other univ prez

SOUP

How is a president even chosen? Is there a pool of applicants?

Posted by: laquinton | December 11, 2014 at 11:12 PM

We went through this already like 100 times:

1. WWIM and CaneRock play a game of billiards to determine who gets to select the new PResident of UM.

2. CaneRock always scratches on the 8 ball so it comes down to WWIM to choose.

3. He would choose Beyonce but since she would NOT accept he is left with different characters to choose from.

4. His leading candidate is Rice followed by the Pres from GT, BC, ND, Stanford or NW.

Sarasota 'cane

Soup have you been following the premiere on Twitter? You can sense the unfinished business that Butch feels for THE U in every shot!

Something miraculous is going to come from this documentary, I can feel it!!

#FireAlGolden

Sarasota 'cane

If Butch can be eliminated from consideration for what happened at UNC then how on earth can Candi Rice be considered for president given her involvement with Cheney/Bush and the release of the terror report yesterday?

Don't delete this post Soup, it's relevant to an honest discussion of her qualifications to be considered for president of UM regardless of your politics.

SOUP

Sota...funny, but do U hear a buzzing sound? Look over your house right now. See that drone hovering? There is a Hellfire missle that will impact in 3, 2, 1...LOL

SOUP

#ExecuteSarasota

Just kidding, JUST KIDDING!!!

Sarasota 'cane

He He!! Nobody here is giving the current clown a pass! ;-) He just sold us to Wall Street tonight to save the Affordable Care Act!

SOUP

Look, here is how it reads in UM history:

Howard could have won 5 National Ships and screwed it up.

Jimmy could have won 5 and he too screwed it up.

Dennis loved his drank but still could have won 3 and screwed it up.

Coker could have won 3 but was foolish and then unlucky.

Shannon was not going to win one, not ever.

Golden has one more year to prove he can win.

Or else Lady Gaga will coach the Canes.

They may not win but they are gonna get some attention!

Sarasota 'cane

Golden can't win the ACC Coastal! It's painfully obvious he will never contend for a National Championship!

laquinton

Butch does have that look on his face beaming with pride. Wow.. wish he was the HC..

The Dude

Butch.

The Dude

Reports are saying Chryst is interviewing with Wisconsin tomorrow but that Pitt is putting the press on him.

laquinton

Looks like Chryst from Pitt took Wisc

VfB_Cane

Looks like Chryst from Pitt took Wisc

Posted by: laquinton | December 12, 2014 at 01:25 AM

Are there any signs of "Golden to Pitt" rumours yet?

360Cane

See guys? Just one more year!

Jones said when he met with coaches "They were saying how they had a great quarterback, how they ran the offense, that they'll be an ACC championship contender. They said that they made mistakes they shouldn't have made this season. And going down there on my visit, I hadn't been to Miami before and I loved it."

CaneRock

Coaches told him they want him at left tackle and that he can compete to play right away.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 11, 2014 at 11:11 PM

Probably means Flowers is gone.

CaneRock

Posted by: SOUP | December 11, 2014 at 11:50 PM

If JJ had DE as His OC, He wins 3 NCs. For the life of me, I never understood why JJ had WRs in 3-point stances...in the MID 80s!

If RS had Fish as His OC, He at least wins a couple of ACC Championships. Like I said the other day, 64 INTs in 3 years did Him in...64 INTs!

UMike

UMike's first article, 6 years ago on Canespace:

http://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2008/05/loving-every-mi.html

Posted by: SOUP | December 11, 2014 at 10:42 PM

Ummmmm yea... I didnt write this lol... my first article was 6-7 years ago, but about the OB lol

UMike

I asked Butch, if given the opportunity, would he ever return to the Hurricanes to coach. He avoided that question (I think the answer, in my opinion, is yes). He did, however, gush about his time with the Canes.

“I want to coach again someplace,” he said. “I’d love to have an opportunity to coach. It will come out in the movie. The 11 years I spent coaching in Miami were probably the greatest, most instrumental years that happened in my life. I am so grateful that Jimmy Johnson brought me to Miami and gave me a chance to be an assistant coach here and come back and be a head coach.

“Almost everything that I was ever able to accomplish as a coach, its roots took place in Miami. I am grateful for having been here.’’

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2014/12/note-to-billy-corbenalfred-spellman-thanks-for-the-memories-the-rest-of-u-tune-in-at-9-pm-saturday.html#storylink=cpy

Go Canes

I've purposely not watched a single preview of the U 2. Want to watch the whole thing fresh!

Can't wait til Saturday!

Go Canes!!

UMike

Go Canes... I will working at the shelter with my boys Sat night.. so their all about to become Miami fans lol

UMike

Go Canes.. dont look...

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12016255

Go Canes

No worries I definitely won't! I even changed channels when I see commercials!

Go Canes

@CanesWarningFS: Looks like a busy couple of days for this weekends' visitors RT“@javariusdavis1: See u tomorrow 🙌 http://t.co/wnWVVlPDmU”

dj moonbat

How is a president even chosen ? Is there a pool of applicants ? Donna may not like sports but she does help recruit and that ncaa mess she was right there front and center every time it seemed like. Is Condi Rice availible ?

Posted by: laquinton | December 11, 2014 at 11:12 PM


SOUP graciously explained above how the U chooses, with the traditional game of billiards.

Most universities, though, do things a little less elegantly. At a public university, there may even be laws in place that govern how the whole thing goes down.

But basically, your board -- be they trustees, or regents, or directors -- figures out who they want to talk to, brings them in to talk, and hires the one they like who will accept their terms.

Typically, they find who they want to talk to by consulting with people who specialize in executive searches. The board may also delegate the preliminary decision-making to a university committee, the recommendations of which end up getting rubber-stamped by the board. But sometimes, university boards just have an idea who they want and go after it.

It would be pretty unusual for there to be an open applications process for a presidency, but in cases where state law mandates open applications for government positions, I would guess there might be a posted opening for state university president.

Go Canes

Imo they already know who the next President will be.

And I could venture a guess, that person will care a lot more about academics than anything else.

WWIN

2. CaneRock always scratches on the 8 ball so it comes down to WWIM to choose.

3. He would choose Beyonce but since she would NOT accept he is left with different characters to choose from.

4. His leading candidate is Rice followed by the Pres from GT, BC, ND, Stanford or NW.

Posted by: SOUP | December 11, 2014 at 11:31 PM

2. Yep

3. I'm thinking about Nicki Minaj as her replacement tho, she always has me "trending up"!!!!

4. Only if Nicki turns it down. I'm also considering Lebron James just to piss off CaneRock!

Ohio_Cane

Probably means Flowers is gone.

Posted by: CaneRock | December 12, 2014 at 06:02 AM
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Which is why I've been waiting on us to pull a JUCO OL, because I expect Flowers to leave.

Ohio_Cane

Expect a Welcome To The U this weekend.

thirstybuzzardcane


Looking at the pictures of Butch Davis, Billy Corbin, and all the boys at the The U Part 2 premiere on Twitter makes me sick to my stomach. Butch wants to coach the canes and yet we're stuck with Al Folden through 2019!

It's a travesty of epic proportions! It'll feel even worse after we watch the documentary on Saturday!

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | December 11, 2014 at 11:17 PM
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I second that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dj moonbat

Which is why I've been waiting on us to pull a JUCO OL, because I expect Flowers to leave.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 12, 2014 at 09:01 AM


Is it just me, or does Miami do a lot more JUCO recruiting than it used to?

Ohio_Cane

http://www.stateoftheu.com/2014/12/12/7380259/miami-hurricanes-recruiting-javarius-davis-tim-irvin-dexter-williams-charles-perry-jaquan-johnson

Jaquan earns his scholly this weekend by getting Irvin to sign and be an EE with him.

Go Canes

That would be awesome!!!

thirstybuzzardcane

Man, after watching the preview for The U part 2, I wish we were playing Florida in a bowl game. At least I would have something to look forward too!

Ohio_Cane

Is it just me, or does Miami do a lot more JUCO recruiting than it used to?

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 12, 2014 at 09:10 AM
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It's a must when U lack depth and the ability to RS kids so they can sit and learn first.

30CINCO

Todd Mcshay's latest draft board has Flowers ranked 17th overall.

Perryman is also slotted in the 1st round in a few mock drafts.

Ohio_Cane

2 first rounders from a 6-6 team? Ugh...........

30CINCO

2 first rounders from a 6-6 team? Ugh...........

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 12, 2014 at 09:28 AM
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Talent evaluations & player development pieces are there.

Putting those pieces together to formulate a winning team is not , which makes the past season so damn frustrating.

UMike

30 well said

dj moonbat

Talent evaluations & player development pieces are there.

Putting those pieces together to formulate a winning team is not , which makes the past season so damn frustrating.

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 12, 2014 at 09:36 AM


I would say that evaluation/recruitment and development are sporadic. The staff apparently CAN do these things, but are not doing them reliably.

Ohio_Cane

I would say that evaluation/recruitment and development are sporadic. The staff apparently CAN do these things, but are not doing them reliably.

Posted by: dj moonbat | December 12, 2014 at 09:45 AM
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There's a reason for that the past few years, regarding recruitment. Whether U want to believe in the cloud or not, it hurt recruiting. Badly. If there were no cloud, we would've landed a lot more talent.

UMike

Ohio.. we still would of lost. We lose to teams with way less talent that us. I know we lost out on some recruits due to the NCAA mess, but we are more talented than the teams we lose to even with those loses.

Go Canes

They are doing it. They are finding talent and developing it. The draft shows that. They are also playing very well to downright spectacular at times

The problem is they aren't doing it when it matters most, at crucial monents of winnable games.

That's coaching. And that part was sorely lacking this season.

UMike

I think we have more wasted talent than developed talent. Guys like DP and Duke were gonna be stars no matter what. I think Pierre is a good example of development and there are some, but imo we have more cases of wasted talent (Chick) then we do developed talent.

Ohio_Cane

Ohio.. we still would of lost. We lose to teams with way less talent that us. I know we lost out on some recruits due to the NCAA mess, but we are more talented than the teams we lose to even with those loses.

Posted by: UMike | December 12, 2014 at 09:50 AM
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I'm not talking about games. I'm talking recruiting, which is what dj was talking about as well.

UMike

I think the teams play on the field and win-loss record will open the door for more negative recruiting then the could did lol

Ohio_Cane

Guys like DP and Duke were gonna be stars no matter what.

Posted by: UMike | December 12, 2014 at 09:52 AM
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I'll give U Duke, but Denzel? Really? That man was developed. He was a 3* who was ranked the 25th best OUTSIDE LB in the country. Now he's the #1 or #2 LB in the country.

UMike

Ohio.. DP was vastly underrated as a recruit, no way he should of been a 3-Star. Kid was ballin since he was a freshman. He flourished despite Golden, D'No and that lame scheme, not because of them lol

Go Canes

It can't be both ways IMO. You can't take a raging dumpster fire, like this program was four years ago, supposedly put 10 guys in the draft, then say more is not being developed.

Some guys peak early, some guys stay flat, others were going to blow up and others develop.

That happens at every program.

WWIN

^^^^^^^ Denzel was good his freshman year! And he's actually just doing what he's been doing since his freshman year, hitting people hard!

Ohio_Cane

Something has to be going on with CB Marcus Lewis. He announced a top 3 of Miami, Kentucky, and Washington State....

He's got big time offers, too. Clem, UGA, FSU, UF, OSU, Baylor, Mich, Mich St, etc

30CINCO

Like some have said, we have the second most players receiving draft grades, prime example of players being developed at a high rate (relative to everyone else).

We didnt have a top 5 rated recruiting class in 2011/2012 (which is where majority of this draft class is from) ,yet we have more guys being looked at than everyone except 1 team. Some would call that doing more with less, and at a higher percentage rate than some of the top coaches, like those who did have top 5 recruiting classes in 2011/2012.

UMike

Think of all the 4-5 start guys that either left the program or never developed into anything more than a reliable player (in college)...

Ray Ray Armstrong
Dyron Dye
Jermaine Johnson
Jamal Reid
Luther Robinson
Olivier Vernon
Malcolm Bunche
Eduardo Clements
Storm Johnson
Anthony Chickillo
Jalen Grimble
Jelani Hamilton
Tracy Howard
Raphael Kirby


Theres tons.... so IMO we have had more talent wasted with this staff than developed. JMO

UMike

People want to say how we have this many getting looked at, or this many getting drafted etc... those same people were the ones saying we didnt have any talent cause the cloud lol

30CINCO

What are the requirements to be considered a developed or wasted talent?

UMike

30... I guess we can go back and forth on that all day, I would assume that varies from person to person.

Ohio_Cane

Mike, I'm not going to take the time to pick that list apart, but I'll just say that some of those were out of the staff's control as a reason they didn't develop. There's a reason some of them are flaming out of the NFL, too.

Go Canes

Some of those guys only played a handful of games under this staff.

Go Canes

He really does care!!! Whew!!!!

@ChristyChirinos: The South Florida version of football weather as the #Canes return to the practice field ahead of the @DCIBowl. http://t.co/xUuO17RJKw

WWIN

Posted by: UMike | December 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Yep! Lol

SinisterCane

Flowers is going the Phins first Rd

UpNorthCane27

Denzel "The Prezident" Perryman to my Pats in the first round also.

UMike

I agree not all on the list were staffs fault, but I still think this staff has had more wasted talent that developed. Guys like Chick getting worse since their freshman year, a 5-Star in Howard who doesnt even start. A 4-Star in Carter who got "beat out" by a walk-on etc. Again, jmo.

Go Canes

Posted by: UMike | December 12, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Well when you consider the 10 supposed draft grade players four years ago were true freshmen or year or high school seniors and two years ago were true sophomores and juniors, it basically proves that fact to be correct.

I haven't seen anyone saying we've lacked talent this season. Pretty much everyone is saying we grossly underachieved.

30CINCO

Flowers is going the Phins first Rd

Posted by: SinisterCane | December 12, 2014 at 10:38 AM
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They do need line help and will be drafting around Flower's current projected pick so it could happen.

Would Phins fans support a Winston on their team?

Ohio_Cane

McGahee at practice

Ohio_Cane

Susan Miller Degnan ‏@smillerdegnan 1m1 minute ago

Lots of players (mostly veterans) r player-coaches at #UM today

Go Canes

Would Phins fans support a Winston on their team?

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 12, 2014 at 10:42 AM

No.

Ohio_Cane

Susan Miller Degnan ‏@smillerdegnan 1m1 minute ago

Rashawn Scott in yellow (limited) jersey and was catching passes

Susan Miller Degnan ‏@smillerdegnan 11s12 seconds ago

Herb Waters was at practice with neck brace. He was NOT practicing

Ale Narciso ‏@Ale_Narciso1 1h1 hour ago

Deon Bush is back wearing a black jersey, good sign

30CINCO

A healthy, older, matured Rashawn Scott will help Kaaya next year A LOT. From all the camp reports from the summer, they had a good connection early on before his injury.

UMike

If Scott can stay healthy he is a real talent

Ohio_Cane

If Scott can stay healthy he is a real talent

Posted by: UMike | December 12, 2014 at 10:57 AM
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He hasn't proved he can do that, so I won't hold my breath.

UMike

Ohio.. Im not.. just saying.

SinisterCane

Would Phins fans support a Winston on their team?

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 12, 2014 at 10:42 AM


Winston to Phins would be a huge upgrade over Tannehill but I think Miami's night life would keep him in the wrong spotlight

dj moonbat

Would Phins fans support a Winston on their team?

Posted by: 30CINCO | December 12, 2014 at 10:42 AM

No.

Posted by: Go Canes | December 12, 2014 at 10:50 AM


I'll be surprised if he's a good quarterback on Sundays for any team.

UpNorthCane27

winston is a bum

30CINCO

McGahee at practice

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 12, 2014 at 10:42 AM
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How did he get past security? Everyone knows ex players are not allowed back

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