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Posted by: VA Cane | January 09, 2015 at 10:23 AM

I must have the same blindness you have to your continuous references to another man in a cheerleading outfit.

Maybe OGV can make you a sock puppet of one for better visualization.

#startingtogetwierddude

VA Cane

The differerence between us? You make up your Canes background and experience. How do I know? Your blind worship of UM AlPa football. Just reading your comments, stats justifying this current disaster, ideas regarding schemes, attack style football, fundamentals, types of attitudes and players required to compete, win and dominate tell me one thing: you don't know anything about football, and your reflections and ideas prove you have never seen any Great UM teams...you have no clue what championship football is.....you are a johnny come lately AlPa guy......who tried to jump on the bus when AlPa and his loser possePa rode in to town.

Stick to tiddly winks and checkers son; their pedestrian style fit your football apptitude, experience, and knowledge....none.

Go Canes

I've been going to Canes games for 30 years VA. That's as long as some of the people posting on here have been on this planet. I've had season tickets for 15. I've been there for every high and low, from Howard through today.

So calling me a Johnny come lately is incorrect.

I've asked you several times to be as respectful to me as I am to you. Appreciate it if you would do that.

J'Ville Cane

not to nitpick, but Howard wasn't coaching the Hurricanes 30 years ago......but carry on

2015 - 30 = 1985 Jimmy Johnson

J'Ville Cane

http://mancave.cbslocal.com/2015/01/...-and-betrayal/

"Are you kidding me?"

~Folden

VA Cane

GC I like your enthusiasm.....you do put a positive spin on a bleak situation.....don't know that you see how bad AlPa is, and that he is destroying our program, but we all have a right to believe what we feel.
You can be quite the gentleman at times; I can respect and honor that request.

VAC

SinisterCane

In Defense of Fandom: Trust and Betrayal:

By Vishnu Parasuraman

Now that Al Golden finally emerged, it appears that a new message is making the rounds — fans need to stop complaining. The story goes that now that it has become clear that Golden is going nowhere, complaining is counterproductive. It turns off recruits, it creates a toxic atmosphere, and in turn makes it more difficult for Golden to succeed.

As Golden famously said in his introductory press conference, “Are you kidding me?”

I reject this entire line of thinking. Reject it wholeheartedly. Reject it like Al Golden rejects beating good teams.

I don’t pretend to speak for all Miami fans, or even a majority. The fans of Miami are as diverse as the city itself. I will, however, defend those that are currently under attack.

But before that I suppose I should address the straw man that has been built up by focusing on outliers. Yes, there are fans that tweet recruits, players, and family members of players. That engage in vitriolic exchanges with them. Of course no one condones that. To hold that up as the “mainstream” fan is a misrepresentation. It serves a purpose for those with agenda. “Look at these crazy people. Fans need to calm down.” No one would accuse Alabama fans of harming their program because a vocal minority assailed a kicker for missing field goals. The same standard should apply here.

No, the majority know where the line is and would not cross it. Most fans choose to steer well clear of any sort of discussion with recruits, players, and family members. And it’s those that I will defend, because there is a concerted effort to paint them as the villains in this real-life drama playing out in Coral Gables. And that is grossly unfair.

To understand the position of those fans lashing out, you must first understand how we got here.

For years, fans had been told that the program was doing things the right way. Sure, some form of NCAA rules violations occur everywhere, but at least there was a general understanding that Miami was “clean.” Many were proud of that.

Then in the summer of 2011, that facade came crashing down. The fans felt betrayed. And they should have been, as it emerged that the violations were largely a result of the administration letting a wolf into the hen house and then acting surprised that the hens got eaten.

What did the fans do? The perfectly reasonable action of turning their back on the university, leaving them to fend for themselves? No. They did not. They “stood by the U.” A certain blogger penned this opus defending the school against the Yahoo allegations. They had the school’s back, when everyone else went running for cover.

The trust had been betrayed, but the fans stood by the school.

And then came the contract extension. It’s hard to remember now just how uncertain the future looked in 2011. It was bad. And as the Canes, having already announced a self-imposed bowl ban, limped towards the end of a season, uncertainty also swirled around the head coach. No one wanted to conduct a head coaching search in this atmosphere. But as the Canes were getting pummeled at home by a three-win Boston College team (that game would be their fourth win), the first warning signs emerged. Maybe hiring Golden was a mistake, and him leaving wouldn’t be the worst thing.

Then, the school made the unbelievably poor decision to announce the extension mid-game. It came as a gut punch of sorts. How could the notoriously cheap university afford this if things went wrong? Golden had one 6-6 season at Miami, and had never won the MAC. He was far from a sure thing. Yet once again, the fans “stood with the U.”

The school had panicked and did something insanely idiotic, but the fans stood by the school.

Then came the collapse of the defense. For years, even when the team was bad, the defense excelled. Then Al Golden produced the two worst defenses in school history. And he stuck by his defensive coordinator. This time, fans were out with pitchforks. “Don’t talk to me about Al Golden and whatever that D Coordinator’s name is,” Alum Warren Sapp said. “Don’t ever hire someone that you can’t fire. That’s the golden rule. The D Coordinator is killing my school. That looks like no Miami defense in the history of our school.”

Golden’s message: “Although we’re not where we want to be, there are so many little things I look at as the head coach that say the answer right now is not change. The answer is continuity.”

Many fans wanted to see him take the Penn State job he was never offered. But when Al decided to leave things in place, while the fans probably didn’t trust him anymore, they backed him. They were “#renewed.”

The fans had every reason to doubt the coaching staff and administration, but they stood behind them.

And then this season happened. A decided step back. A step in the wrong direction. A losing season, unbelievably, with six players slated to go in the first four rounds of the NFL draft. With talent not an issue, coaching must be. And with Golden’s predecessor being fired for an identical 28-22 record, surely Golden would be given the boot.

Once again, the fans trusted those stewards of the program to make the right decision. The decision consistent with history.

They were betrayed again. From the scandal, to the contract extension, to the years of abhorrent defense, to the team finishing with a losing record, the fans stood by and took it all.

And now the same coach and same administration that time and again has let down these fans is coming back to them and saying, “all we need is more time. More years. We care, TRUST US.“

Nope, not this time. After standing by the school through a scandal, trusting that they didn’t sign a contract extension they couldn’t pay to get out of, trusting that Golden was leading the program forward as he claimed, trusting that if the team actually managed to lose more games than they won that the school would make a change, these fans were all out of trust.

And the message to them is, “stop talking, you’re going to hurt recruiting?”

Kicked, battered, bruised and marginalized, you now want these fans to also be defeated?

They. Will. Not.

Anyone with common sense knew they would not. That’s why, when I wrote this open letter to President Shalala, I urged her to make a change before this ugliness set in, told her that the players were going to be caught in the middle, and that “knowingly putting them through that is unconscionable.” Sure enough, we’re here.

Yes, this might marginally hurt recruiting. Not nearly on the level that the school’s blasé response to 6-7 does. Not nearly on the level that Al Golden’s incompetence on the field does. But sure, perhaps there is a recruit somewhere who would have gone to Miami who won’t because of all the negativity.

Here’s the thing…it’s not the fans’ job to recruit. It’s Al Golden’s. We repeatedly hear from this administration that he is the right man for the job, that he will lead this program to glory. But he can’t deal with negative fans? Those that support Golden love to trot out that fans turned on Butch Davis mid-tenure, and had the administration fired him, the school would have been worse off. Well, if that’s the case, and Butch could overcome it, then why can’t Golden? Why is this the fans’ fault?

If he can’t sell it, it’s because there is no substance. And that is the underlying truth here. That there is nothing to sell.

And also where the worst of fan shaming comes in. No one can put together a coherent football argument for retaining Golden. Instead, we hear that Shalala doesn’t want to fire a coach in her last year, that they want the new president to have input, that they don’t want to pay the buyout, that Golden should be given another year because of the scandal.

None of which has anything to do with him actually being a successful football coach. The fans are being asked to accept a bad decision by an administration because of external complications caused by that very same administration.

And you question why they are booing? You’re lucky they haven’t stormed Hecht with pitch forks.

It’s unfortunate that the timing of this coincides with recruiting season. But Golden should have been fired over a month ago, and a new coach, with the full backing of the fans, should be recruiting right now.

If the fans can’t voice their displeasure now, when can they? Should they show up to the Spring Game and boo the players? Should they go to games next year and cheer for the other team? Of course not. Either of those would be uncouth.

When it matters, the fans will back these players, and hope they are wrong about Golden. They will cheer for this team, knowing that the coach is likely to fail them again, and ruin more players’ careers. All the while hoping that they will have the pleasure of eating crow.

But now? When there is minimal harm? Now is when they should voice their displeasure, if they so choose.

The administration would love for the fans to be quiet, to leave them in peace, to trust them again. So they can move on, their horrible decision intact, unscathed.

Just because they consider the matter closed does not mean fans should. Is Al Golden going to be the coach next year? Probably. That doesn’t mean that the fans can’t voice their displeasure, not just lashing out angrily, but also in hopes that eventually someone in charge at the university, be it the president, the athletic director, or the Board of Trustees, steps up, takes responsibility, and provides the change that will instantly remove the toxicity around the program.

It’s just like putting a returner back when a team attempts a long field goal. It’s not that you are likely to field the kick and return it for a touchdown, but only someone incompetent would decide to not even try, on the off chance it works.


Oops.

It’s up to each fan individually to decide how they do and do not support this program. A minority of fans even still support Golden, as is their right. Some will not buy another ticket until he’s gone. Some stick cups in a fence above an overpass. Some complain on social media.

None are wrong. Part of being a fan, perhaps the best part of being a fan, is choice. And with a heterogeneous fan base such as this, you should expect a diverse array of actions.

But fan reaction, particularly the negative fan reaction, is a symptom, not a cause.

If the situation around the school has grown too toxic, responsibility should be laid at the feet of those who caused it. Blaming fans for this is like someone turning on a hose, spraying your driveway, and then you getting mad at the hose for the driveway being wet. Yes, the driveway is wet. Yes, the water flowed through the hose to get to the driveway. But the blame lies with the person that turned the hose on.

Similarly, the negativity might be coming from the fans. But it’s the administration that grew it for 4 years, cultivated it with their repeated inaction and betrayal, and now created an atmosphere where it was inevitable for it to come pouring out.

The administration’s decision to retain Golden without any football reason, and to say, “maybe next year he’ll show something we haven’t seen yet and have no reason to believe will happen other than blind optimism” is the cause of this current toxicity. And ultimately, those causing it can also provide the solution.

Fortunately for them, this time the solution to the end of this hostility is also the right thing to do.

The disgruntled fans? Repeatedly ignored and insulted, they are left with but one recourse.

J'Ville Cane

Here’s the thing…it’s not the fans’ job to recruit. It’s Al Golden’s. We repeatedly hear from this administration that he is the right man for the job, that he will lead this program to glory. But he can’t deal with negative fans? Those that support Golden love to trot out that fans turned on Butch Davis mid-tenure, and had the administration fired him, the school would have been worse off. Well, if that’s the case, and Butch could overcome it, then why can’t Golden? Why is this the fans’ fault?
------------------------------------------------Church, can the congregation say AMEN!!!

MUTHAFLUCKIN AMEN!!!

Go Canes

Should have said over 30 years. I guess time flies when you're having fun.

My first game ever in the OB Jim Kelly was the QB.

1mg of Epi

The administration does not care. They hear the fans, but they don't care.
Posted by: LB | January 09, 2015 at 10:07 AM

That's just not true. They absolutely care... That the team gets to bowl games.

J'Ville Cane

On a side note, the dude in the picture on Vishnu's article looks pissed as f***. LOL

Surfercane

Well the time is coming to fall in line and support the Program over everything else! Fans do hurt recruiting I remember Teddy B talking about how Miami fans were killing j12 and stuff. It is what it is. I hope D no goes. But I'm ready to flip the script and get back on me positive train! Fire Golden talk is becoming boring , cause it ain't happing.

Herbieibis

Golden the Watson brown of this era. Mack's bro was a head coach forever and sucked as a head coach.
Speaking on being negative, well if the truth hurts change it. Do something to change this atmosphere that you helped create. Losing to sorry azz teams, losing recruiting battles, a losing record aren't helping u win any popularity contest with the fans or recruits. U go 6-7 with basically the same team u had from the year before doesn't speak volumes of your coaching abilities. U can spout all u want to about history and numbers and based on those numbers we improved but where are the wins? No al u are delusional at best. Let me give u and your sympathizes something to chew on, it's a fact u have the u over a barrel with that dam contract, if u think u can with below par dt and lb play you're a bigger idiot than I thought. U have done nothing in those two areas to insure this team gets better. Below average talent at temple may be except able but here it gets u ass beatings. Auburn texas a and m canned their dee cordinators after 2 years and you are giving deno a fifth year, have u been watching the same games we've been watching? I guess because g. Tech and Nebraska didn't pass for a whole bunch of yards that showed defensive improvement never mind they rushed for 700 yds. Combined. What good is improving the stats if u don't win? I guess it's better for us to be ranked near the bottom like the year before and win 9 games. I guess since we will in fact be worse next year, how can we possibly be better and you are better with numbers than I am, so go ahead and tell us that we lost a lot of senior leadership and we are starting and playing a lot of freshmen and sophomores, I can hear it now. Al the only stats and numbers that matter to us are wins and losses the latter of which we are sick.
U need to work some magic with this recruiting class and get some dam talent coming in before it's two late. Hopefully you understand we can't win with a bunch of not ranked 3 star players.

WWIN

Brock Berlin

raizecane

scooby doo

WWIN

Fire Golden talk is becoming boring , cause it ain't happing.

Posted by: Surfercane | January 09, 2015 at 12:00 PM

Quitter mentality! Never give up on something you believe in! You have fallen in UM's trap

WWIN

Posted by: SinisterCane | January 09, 2015 at 11:44 AM

I couldn't have said it better myself!

raizecane

3 scumbags responsible for the massacre the other day have been killed. One crazy bitch still on the run.

WWIN

I like how some people wanna say we need to support UM no matter what if you're a true fan...

What about Kevin Olsen? He was a Cane and had family ties here but because he had a few mistakes we stopped supporting him! Why were y'all okay with him getting the boot???????

Demons

Props Mr. SinisterCane,, can I add , that does the school feels like they owe him for sticking by the school during the scandal, what did he actually do , make calls to let everyone know he is going to stick around and do his job , and not leave ,and because of that he is being rewarded, who leaves anywhere because of some one else's mess, while pocketing millions, any other coach ever went into a job with ascandal hanging over it then quit because it was to much to handle ?

j.w.

Lex Lugar

RCCF

Same Reason They Were Ok w/Booting Randy ....
Cane on Cane Hatred!!
Im warming up to the Adidas thing bcuz it makes sense Money wise.. I still want Golden fired...bt I will shut up if they at least make significant Defensive moves ie.go 4-3 maximize the talent on the field...Fire DNo(yea right), Jethro, and Williams...Then I say bring in Rumph get Irvin back...Also I think we need Carroll on ST coach and give me LT or ThrillHill WR coach and let Ice do more dude is a Winner....he lost the most of his games coaching college if not mistaken..

Go Canes

Maybe Olsen needed professional help. Maybe he was given more chances than you know. Maybe his parents thought he should leave the temptations of South Florida.

We don't know what went into that decision.

j.w.


There is a meeting with the players scheduled for Sunday at 5:00pm at which time the team supposedly will learn whatever firings are happening. We will find out sometime thereafter. Williams has supposedly already been fired, Carroll also is likely gone. Manny said firings won't be announced until after NSD so we shall see.

BJ told Al after the bowl game that he had a choice... Fire D'no or be fired himself. Al obviously called BJs bluff. BJ is still trying to force Al's hand. The chances of D'no being fired are slim. Although he wasn't in Dallas so maybe, just maybe....

There was talk of switching to a more Miami-like 4-3 base. Probably just talk.


Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 09, 2015 at 08:26 AM
epi, do you really believe they called his bluff then backed down? I don't have a lot of faith in the athletic dept. right now, but that seems a little farfetched to me.

1mg of Epi

Well the time is coming to fall in line and support the Program over everything else! Fans do hurt recruiting I remember Teddy B talking about how Miami fans were killing j12 and stuff. It is what it is. I hope D no goes. But I'm ready to flip the script and get back on me positive train! Fire Golden talk is becoming boring , cause it ain't happing.

Posted by: Surfercane | January 09, 2015 at 12:00

If we, the fans, don't stand up for this program then who will? Our administration is not willing on its own to do what is needed for a winning football program.

To them a bowl appearance equates to a successful season. This is not just my opinion. This is what the players believe. Soup, GC and others disagree but unfortunately they are wrong.

The former players generally don't support the program financially, and are increasingly being shut out figuratively and literally.

We are all that's left. There is NOBODY else who cares enough to stand up for U football. NOBODY. We have to be the stewards of this program.. We have to be the ones to stand up and say "Enough is Enough". We will never be anything but an average at best in the ACC team... Unless we stand up for this program we supposedly love.

They will not fire Al next year as long as he's over .500. They just aren't... Calling me names won't change this fact. The only chance we have is if we stop supporting the admin financially.

They care about the bottom line.. Dollars and cents. Keeping Al will reach a point of diminished returns.. And then and only then will they consider firing him. We need to stand up for our team.

Next year doesn't matter, he's coming back and we simply can't win with him as HC. We have to look to the future. Blindly supporting this admin by purchasing tickets means we are condemning our beloved U to sub mediocrity for longer than any of should be willing to bear.

Individually we have no voice, no power and no way to effect change. The more of us who stand up for our U, the louder our voice gets. They will eventually hear us, they'll eventually make a change and MAYBE we will see something that resembles our U football. Maybe. If we keep supporting this admin they wil keep supporting Al.

If you love the U then stand up for it!! Nobody else will.

1mg of Epi

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 09, 2015 at 08:26 AM
epi, do you really believe they called his bluff then backed down? I don't have a lot of faith in the athletic dept. right now, but that seems a little farfetched to me.

Posted by: j.w. | January 09, 2015 at 01:35

It does sound bad doesn't it... I heard the same thing from more than one person though.

tjl3909

777

thirstybuzzardcane

Maybe Olsen needed professional help. Maybe he was given more chances than you know. Maybe his parents thought he should leave the temptations of South Florida.

We don't know what went into that decision.

Posted by: Go Canes | January 09, 2015 at 01:33 PM

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No, you need professional help!!!!

The Dude

Posted by: CaneRock | January 09, 2015 at 08:32 AM

Posted by: UpNorthCane | January 09, 2015 at 09:19 AM

Did you two even give a listen to the songs I posted? Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCjspyo-_aI

^^^ The Wizard ^^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_429ROVI2Y

^^^ The Thing That Should Not Be ^^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td-v6vG2Xhs

^^^ Floods ^^^

The Dude

780

The Dude

now 780

The Dude

Posted by: SinisterCane | January 09, 2015 at 11:44 AM

Vishnu is spot on.

Go Canes

@joshdarrow: “@FootballMia: This is my town. My city. My home. @F5_DEUCE. video here ">http://t.co/kaqzcZNUbY”--> good work by my boy C. Diaz!!!

TheeMackJones

If there was a Pulitzer for ' essays. ' Then Vishnu would win it in a landslide. The MAN knows Miami, Florida Hurricane football! And he's a graduate of THE U, too.

Oh. I dig how he's been throwing around the TOXIC word, too. Because I've been endlessly employing TOXIC, PUTRID and NOXIOUS regarding the current state of the program.

And GC and cohorts. It's going to continue to get WORST in Coral Gables. And Golden and D'Onofrio and the administration, BoT and lame duck President will be at FAULT for malicious malfeansance.


So here's looking at 7-5 or 6-6 in 2015. And hopefully Miami will get drilled in some OBSCURE bowl game. Then just MAYBE the university will CHIT-CAN the Golden Farce and send those CARPETBAGGERS back north!!!

VA Cane

Ihave no problem with Olsen needing to go, he needs professional help, and it was clear he was not the answer or in any condition to be the answer. I hope he is getting some help.

I think it is unrealistic to tell fans....I am not a fan I am a coach....that though the head coach and staff are grossly incompetent, don't voice your opinion. That is communisim at its finest the suppression of the truth, of freedom. Change it....hell you have had plenty of time to do it. AlPa is incapapable of changing it as he is not qualified to coach at this level, maybe any level. There is nothing to support here; AlPas hope and change has become despair and stagnation. I love UM football....this is a joke. Its almost as if AlPa is doing this on purpose.
After all he is from Perv State, the supposed throne of morality at one time, and we were the Anti Christ....maybe this is the revenge of the JoPa AlPa machine. Never know!

The Dude

Toxic is my word. Tell him WW.

CalGary Canes

I wonder if It is possible for BJ to fire DNo? What would Al do in that situation?

VA Cane

I think The Mack is right....there is no up here, AlPa and regime have destroyed the program, and there is no saving it by them. Donna is going, which is probably good she has done some good, but her progessive vision for the medical complex has backfired....James, Golden and Co have us in a massive decline....we belong in the Top 10 Failng Programs this sad joke of Goldpa is a nuclear disaster. There is no other solution but termination.

Jsy

Al golden

raizecane


Al golden

Posted by: Jsy | January 09, 2015 at 03:47 PM

*************************************

For a second, I thought that was from JSQ

VA Cane

Clappy, Onionhead, AlPa ....how does one of the greatest football institutions of the last 30 years end up with The 3 Stooges? What horrible vision and musmangement.

I forgot how much I hated Marcellus Wiley...I don't care where he went to school.....he is a loudmouth jerk, constantly droolung over females on the show....lousy player and a suggestive forward punk. I woke to him running his mouth, then it switched to Lebatard and his dumbass Dad. God they are horrible.

1mg of Epi


Toxic is my word. Tell him WW.
Posted by: The Dude | January 09, 2015 at 03:31 PM

This is a true story. The Dude beat Vishnu by at least 8 weeks.

SinisterCane

No more Wisconsin hires

Go Canes

@CanesWarningFS: !!! RT“@FootballMia: This is my town. My city. My home. @F5_DEUCE. video here http://t.co/FBdRFpcCMc”

1mg of Epi

I think The Mack is right....there is no up here, AlPa and regime have destroyed the program, and there is no saving it by them. Donna is going, which is probably good she has done some good, but her progessive vision for the medical complex has backfired....James, Golden and Co have us in a massive decline....we belong in the Top 10 Failng Programs this sad joke of Goldpa is a nuclear disaster. There is no other solution but termination.

Posted by: VA Cane | January 09, 2015 at 03:43 PM

Al didn't destroy the program, he just continued what clappy and onion started. It is true though that he is incapable of fixing it.

J'Ville Cane

then it switched to Lebatard and his dumbass Dad. God they are horrible.

Posted by: VA Cane | January 09, 2015 at 04:04 PM

I thought I was the only one that thought that.

VA Cane

Well let me say this: all 3 of these guys have added their fair share of destruction that has gotten us to this point....I think that AlPas contribution has been the worst......he has never been a cane, he is a horrible coach, and he has the worst record. All of them have been bad.

1mg of Epi

Postedy: VA Cane | January 09, 2015 at 03:

They're telling us no stop being negative because it's affecting recruiting.

So apparently a recruit, say Tim Irvin, decides he's coming to Miami. He then sees a tweet saying Al sucks. He's surprised to see such a thing so he figures he should look into the team... At this point he realizes they were 6-7 in the worst division in football and 3-7 vs P5. With this knowledges he decommits.

They think we are completely, totally and unabashedly stupid.

The Dude

I love Vishnu's piece, I hope it keeps the angry fans on point and keeps the pressure on Miami. They deserve everything they're getting right now.

AfriCane


I like how some people wanna say we need to support UM no matter what if you're a true fan...

What about Kevin Olsen? He was a Cane and had family ties here but because he had a few mistakes we stopped supporting him! Why were y'all okay with him getting the boot???????

Posted by: WWIM | January 09, 2015 at 01:06 PM

what does that even mean? I fail to see the parallel.

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