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February 16, 2015

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The Dude

I think an obsession for winning is what drives all of the great coaches, Al doesn't have it.

WWIN

What I said was this team was too talented to go 6-7 and had several dynamic players at the top of their roster. But saying we are anywhere remotely as talented from player 1-85 as the top schools out there is ludicrous.

Posted by: Go Canes | February 17, 2015 at 04:40 AM

How many players travel with the team?

How many players are really needed to be successful?

WWIN

Does Al Golden strike you as an obsessive winner?

Posted by: The Dude | February 17, 2015 at 12:48 PM

Everybody knows the answer to that...

But did you know that UM's DC Mark D'nofrio is really a undercover gangster???

#illBeHereAllDay

Terrance Sullivan

Agreed VA. Also the Dude how many players have a obsession to win because I wonder about that as well. Let's hope for our sake that Golden and players prove us wrong.

WWIN

10000+ posts where Chasers are being Boot Lickers (some call it "messing around" or just being sarcastic, like I specialize in), but then want to whine when one is called a Alpologist or when they get hit with the same, lol - only in Fantasyland

#iftheshoefits

Posted by: 30CINCO | February 17, 2015 at 10:22 AM

There! Fixed it for ya!

UMike

TSully...I dont think we do and think its a reflection of Golden and other staff members.

UMike

Well I would say we dont have ANY...you could see the pain in the eyes of Duke last year...was sad to watch at times.

30CINCO

Shoe fit like a glove for AQM whisperer, LMAO!

UMike

wouldn't say***

Terrance Sullivan

Exactly and it is a major problem from Coach Golden his staff, to the players don't know how bad they want to be great. Hope we are wrong but they need to prove us and most importantly themselves wrong.

The Dude

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | February 17, 2015 at 01:28 PM

I always think of a coach like Phil Jackson who nurtures that instinct in his players.

CaneRock

Does playing 12 yards off the ball, on 3rd & 9, show a lack of will to win?

Does having LBs 8 yards off the ball, in 3rd & short situations, show a lack of will to win?

Does having a DT covering a scat-back, show a lack of will to win?

How can ya'll tell if a player has a lack of will to win?

UpNorthCane27

Sorry guys but the will to win comes from within, yea a coach can inspire and motivate you but it def comes from the person regardless of coaches.

30CINCO

Posted by: UpNorthCane | February 17, 2015 at 02:04 PM
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Agreed.

In sports as well as in life, the will to win/succeed comes from within.

30CINCO

Love em some Swasey!

https://www.canesinsight.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=29712&d=1424198683&thumb=1

Terrance Sullivan

Exactly Phil Jackson a hall of famer love that guy he also happen to coach 2 of arguably the 5 greatest players in league history in Michael and Kobe, another top 15 player in league history in Shaq, and top 60 player and hall of famer in Scottie, another future hall of famer in Pau.

WWIN

Shoe fits like a jock strap for Randy whisperer, LMAO!

Posted by: 30CINCO | February 17, 2015 at 01:41 PM

There! Fixed it for ya!

30CINCO

lmao!

SinisterCane

Posted by: UpNorthCane | February 17, 2015 at 02:04 PM

It's start with the HC, losing should burn your soul but player share the desire to win.

JJ was up big and told his team that if the opponent score 3 points he was gonna run like crazy all week during practice because he want to preserve the shutout

#It starts with me

UpNorthCane27

Sinister im not trying to downplay the importance of a coach when it comes to having the "will to win". As you stated "it starts with me", if a player doesnt give two shyts then it's tough. Some players can be changed and have that will to win instilled in them but some just don't care and will forever be on cruise control.

Go Canes

@ByTimReynolds: Some Canes spring ball opening day notes ... about a dozen NFL players attended, including Sean Spence and DJ Williams ...

SinisterCane

Posted by: UpNorthCane | February 17, 2015 at 02:32 PM

Players and Golden better win 10 games

CaneRock

The will to win don't mean $h!t, if you don't know HOW to win. Look at all the coaches in the CFB playoffs this year, they ALL excel in a critical part of the game.

What part of the game does Golden excel at?

And BTW, I don't think PJ would've been as successful without Tex Winters, the man who popularized The Triangle.

SinisterCane

What part of the game does Golden excel at?

Posted by: CaneRock | February 17, 2015 at 02:49 PM

EXCUSES

CaneRock

But Golden's bigger problem is controlling MORALE.

MORALE controls EVERYTHING...the WHO...the HOW...and the WHAT.

WHO =s PERSONNEL
HOW =s FUNDAMENTALS/TECHNIQUES
WHAT =s SCHEME

30CINCO

Ariz:

Jean-Baptiste prepared for JuCo journey

Andy Jean-Baptiste’s path to Division-1 football is a little different than most 6-5, 240-pound athletes his age. The 2015 Edison defensive end has signed with Arizona Western JC and plans on playing there for the next two years. How did a prospect with his skillset wind up in this spot?

After playing his freshman year at Krop, Jean-Baptiste sat out the next two years. He told his side of the story.

“I stopped playing because of my academics and GPA. I knew I messed up, but I couldn’t stay down and I got myself situated to be able to play another year,” Jean-Baptiste said.

In his first year back, Jean-Baptiste flashed the potential to emerge as an elite prospect within the next couple years. Some have even compared him to fellow Haitian Jason Pierre-Paul, who started playing football his junior year of high school before doing two years at the junior college level.

“We have some things in common, but him and J.J. Watt are the best right now so I can’t really put myself there. I look up to him though.”

Jean-Baptiste’s transition back to the football field this past season was tough initially, but he felt like he got back into the swing of things.

“It had been a while since I played so I lost a lot, but once I got back into it my coaches really motivated me. I got bigger, faster, and stronger. My coaches made the best of me this year.”

This one season back has motivated him to make right on his immaturity back in his early high school years.

“I’m going Junior College because I messed up in the past. I’m going that route and I hope I can continue to get better. It really did change my mindset.”

The athletic specimen is not focused on recruiting right now.

“I just want to be able to go to school and get an education. If I make it to the next level, then I’ll make it.”

One program that has caught his attention though, is the hometown Miami Hurricanes.

“It’s home so it’s a really beautiful place. I see myself coming back here maybe.”

SinisterCane

Practice started today for those who car e- just helmets and shirts

Dude on a Pale Horse

The will to win don't mean $h!t, if you don't know HOW to win. Look at all the coaches in the CFB playoffs this year, they ALL excel in a critical part of the game.

What part of the game does Golden excel at?

And BTW, I don't think PJ would've been as successful without Tex Winters, the man who popularized The Triangle.

Posted by: CaneRock | February 17, 2015 at 02:49 PM

I don't think there are very many kids who busted their asses to get a D1 scholarship that don't have the will.

Where Phil was a genius was in coaching through his star players. I think that can only be done in basketball. Shaq is a top 10 player, Kobe might be top 10.

Dude on a Pale Horse

As pure skill goes, Kobe probably top 5, but there's more to it. Shaq was infinitely harder to stop, changed the game.

Dude on a Pale Horse

One day I will have the entire Pacific War memorized, lol.

Go Canes

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SinisterCane

The numbers are staggering:

@YahooSports: Report: Alabama football had a $53 million surplus in 2013-14 fiscal year --> http://t.co/SZy21PGkSI

Posted by: Go Canes | February 17, 2015 at 04:29 PM

Great more SEC news, so much is needed to win the coastal?

30CINCO

Posted by: Go Canes | February 17, 2015 at 04:29 PM
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Geezus!

SinisterCane

Go Canes

Since you stated that you know and share the beliefs with some of the UM Admin. If Golden is unsuccessful in 2015 are the BOT's willing to finally spend big $$$ to get back at the top?

TheeMackJones


Go Canes

Since you stated that you know and share the beliefs with some of the UM Admin. If Golden is unsuccessful in 2015 are the BOT's willing to finally spend big $$$ to get back at the top?

Posted by: SinisterCane | February 17, 2015 at 04:39 PM

That's an easy question to answer SC. ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!!!

In other words, ? IF ? Miami happens to finish either 7-5 or 6-6 in 2015. The Powers that Be will be quite content with the beloved Golden.

Oh. One more thing. As the ASTUTE esp previously mentioned. The Powers the Be are OK with Golden and D'Onofrio leading the Canes to .500 records or 7-5 or even an OCCASIONAL 8-4 winning season. What matters to the WISEMEN is going to an OBSCURE bowl game and raking in the sports REVENUE from the ACC.

TheeMackJones

It's NO LONGER... It's all about THE U. It's now ALL ABOUT THE ACC SPORTS REVENUE. And team records be damned. Thus there was no major criticism of Miami's LAME record last season and bowl lost to THE WORST SEC squad playing in a bowl game.

Terrance Sullivan

LOL Auburn lost 15 million.

Go Canes

I don't have any clue how the Board of Trustees is going to spend its money. As I've always said I'm not associated with the U. I only know a few people whose opinion I respect and trust.

The only thing I do know is the urban legend being created on here that7-5 or 6-6 is good enough for Golden to keep his job is complete and total nonsense. If he does not win I believe he will be fired.

1mg of Epi

CaneRock is correct. This isn't a player problem, this is a coach problem. More specifically it's a scheme problem.

It's not fair to be questioning the players' heart. They are doing what they are supposed to be doing. What you see on Saturdays is by design... With the exception of coverage busts. That is on scheme too.

The assistants are doing their job. The players are doing their job.

1mg of Epi

Btw Sinister we have the number #1 class for 2016 by a wide margin, and it's loaded with S. Florida kids.

What are your thoughts on that?

Posted by: Go Canes | February 17, 2015 at 10:44 AM

We all know what's going to happen. The same thing that happens every year. The class is going to fall apart.

Terrance Sullivan

BOL at players have no responsibility in our season performance last season all were responsible from Coach Golden and his staff to every player that took meaningful snaps last year to suggest anything else is pure comedy.

The Dude

Posted by: Go Canes | February 17, 2015 at 10:44 AM

There's an old adage about counting chickens before they hatch.

The Golden is a failure egg hatched a long time ago so the question isn't has Golden failed, because that's been proven. The question is how long will Golden be allowed to fail.

1mg of Epi

I don't have any clue how the Board of Trustees is going to spend its money. As I've always said I'm not associated with the U. I only know a few people whose opinion I respect and trust.

The only thing I do know is the urban legend being created on here that7-5 or 6-6 is good enough for Golden to keep his job is complete and total nonsense. If he does not win I believe he will be fired.

Posted by: Go Canes | February 17, 2015 at 05:35 PM

You do not know anybody on the board or the admin, and therefore are not qualified to determine what is good enough for golden to keep his job.

What the players are told is that if they reach bowl games. They keep their coach.

The Dude

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | February 17, 2015 at 05:41 PM

I think what people are saying is that the players have heart. I think 95%+ of D1 athletes have heart, so to me that's not a question. What I want to know is who is obsessed with winning? The guys that wont let you win a game of checkers. I think that being obsessed with winning is a culture thing that comes from the head coach and is reflected in his football team. We've all seen it before at Miami, it's just been over ten years. Every coach since Butch has just not been obsessed. Cowherd was telling a story about the Shark the other day, saying how he and Meyer were alike. That if you told them about kid from Sacramento that could shoot all day, or a kid from Naples that's a burner, the Shark and Meyer want details. What's his name, what school in Sacramento/Naples, then boom their making a phone call or sending a text to an assistant. Shark and Urban are obsessed with information that may help them win. Cowherd said most coaches will dismiss anyone not in their "bunker," but the great ones are always looking for an edge.

The Dude

You do not know anybody on the board or the admin, and therefore are not qualified to determine what is good enough for golden to keep his job.

What the players are told is that if they reach bowl games. They keep their coach.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | February 17, 2015 at 05:58 PM

Don't tell him that. We are all idiots for having opinions contrary to his. Of course, call him one and he cries to management.

1mg of Epi


BOL at those who place blame yet do not understand what our scheme asks our players to do.

The Dude

Posted by: The Dude | February 17, 2015 at 06:07 PM

Anyways, I thought that was an interesting take and that it really rings true. If Al were obsessed, what do you think would have happened to the coaches after the year ended? He basically evaluated 6-7 and said "yep, we're doing it right because we visited with the Cowboys."

Go Canes

Lol, I've cried to management?

That's an all timer.

And what do you expect players to be told? Win the ACC or your coach gets canned?

Give me a break.

1mg of Epi

In other words, ? IF ? Miami happens to finish either 7-5 or 6-6 in 2015. The Powers that Be will be quite content with the beloved Golden.

Oh. One more thing. As the ASTUTE esp previously mentioned. The Powers the Be are OK with Golden and D'Onofrio leading the Canes to .500 records or 7-5 or even an OCCASIONAL 8-4 winning season. What matters to the WISEMEN is going to an OBSCURE bowl game and raking in the sports REVENUE from the ACC.

Posted by: TheeMackJones | February 17, 2015 at 04:53 PM

It's NO LONGER... It's all about THE U. It's now ALL ABOUT THE ACC SPORTS REVENUE. And team records be damned. Thus there was no major criticism of Miami's LAME record last season and bowl lost to THE WORST SEC squad playing in a bowl game.

Posted by: TheeMackJones | February 17, 2015 at 04:56 PM

Exactly right.

Over the years, your track record seems to be fairly accurate. It will continue to be.

1mg of Epi

Lol, I've cried to management?

That's an all timer.
And what do you expect players to be told? Win the ACC or your coach gets canned?
Give me a break.

Posted by: Go Canes | February 17, 2015 at 06:13 PM

Actually.. Uncertainty like that is usually used to rally the troops.

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