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May 04, 2015

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UMike

My posting style is what it is. I'm not changing it. I don't attack other posters. In fact, it's the other way around. So, no, I'm not changing how or what I post. Again, suffice it to say I don't engage in personal attacks, like many have on here did until soup put an end to it. Take it or leave, and that's all I'm saying on that

Posted by: Lurker | May 06, 2015 at 11:27 AM

This is SOUP's blog, so not much I can say, but if you want to continues to call people sensitive or miserable etc and take indirect shots at people, then dont complain when others "attack" you.

I'm not trying to call you out, I asked EVERYONE to please watch what they say or how they say it so it doesnt create any unhealthy back and forth.

VA Cane

That undefeated NC concept is not part of our culture now, its the past for now 12 years ago but I want to see where we are and are we moving towards it....this year will be a flower of light in a field of darkness as to where we are....and perhaps where the powers that be want us to go.

VA Cane

I do think current regime wants to do "good", and with all things considered 9-3, 8-4, with a Gator, Peach, or Sun Bowl and a 10-2 thrown in with a big bowl would meet expectations and keep AlPa here for a long time. Beamer, whom I know well, has done it for years. The 1 trip to title game vs FSU was because all things fell right and he had Mike Vick. They have never been a regular at the title table and do not really expect to be...they hope to be but are happy to have good season....hence the turmoil after 2014.
I really don't know that undefeated and NC are in the expectations of new leader and BOT.....Good is the key buzzword makes people feel warm fuzzy....and for many that is good.

I like being in that title game I like championships...I love seeing my boys move to hs ball, feeding into our area hs, heavily contributing to and winning 3 states in a row, going to VT, Stanford, Wake, Richmond, William and Mary, NC....playing and learning. It tells me I am teaching coaching developing guys as complete people, students and olayers. I love 94-3 6 of last 8 SBs.....got to be 7 of last 9....I love winning it all more than being good. That's just me....lets get to good and see if we can go beyond...we will see what happens.

Go Canes

10-2.

No caps needed.

WWIN

Like Lurker said... ANYTHING can happen. So that includes the chance of UM firing Golden before the season starts right? So if people want to believe in that and it can happen, why accept the staff will be here this upcoming season?

If ANYTHING can happen why not expect 12-0 instead of 9 wins???

TheeMackJones

Posted by: VA Cane | May 05, 2015 at 02:13 PM

Ah. The Voice of Reason whom brings a dose of Orange and Green REALITY to the forum.

TheeMackJones


IF Kayaa makes the leap in year two that I hope he does, it negates the loss of Duke Johnson. Miami will be better and deeper this season, with talent almost evenly distributed across all four signing classes. That has not existed since 2010.

Posted by: TonyCane | May 05, 2015 at 01:13 PM

I dig your positive vibes and what not. Yet talent MEANS NOTHING if the personnel are not employed wisely in SCHEMES, STRATEGEMS and what not. And if the game plan and halftime adjustments are AVERAGE and what not.

And baby. That's what OPEN-MINDED Hurricane fandom have WITNESSED the entire four seasons Golden and D'Onofrio have been in Coral Gables.

My bad for bringing negative waves and what not. But I just have to check your notions with a different perspective based on FACTS!

Again, Miami had an EXCELLENT NFL draft weekend and the VAST MAJORITY of NFL draft pundits literally WONDERED how the Hurricanes finished " 6-7 " last season. Well, I absolutely believe it had a lot to do with Golden and D'Onofrio!!!!!!

Canezitis

I get what what ya'll are saying, but to Lurker's point there is NOTHING we can do about our current staff in place. We all know they failed and we're all pissed and would love a top tier coaching staff, but that ain't happening this season. It is what is, why be in the dumps about it. Like some have said, it should be a win win scenario: this staff has another bad year, they're out. If they have a good year and keep the current 2016 class, they might seem like the second coming of Butch and Co. If you recall, we were not real pleased with butch for the first few years as well.
So choose to be miserable about something you can't control or let the season play out and maybe be cautiously optimistic. I'm choosing latter. Life's too short to get all worked up about this stuff, especially when not one game has been played yet.

Lurker

My posting style is what it is. I'm not changing it. I don't attack other posters. In fact, it's the other way around. So, no, I'm not changing how or what I post. Again, suffice it to say I don't engage in personal attacks, like many have on here did until soup put an end to it. Take it or leave, and that's all I'm saying on that

UMike

Im not asking anyone to turn the other cheek, simply saying to watch how WE say things...we could all do without the sarcasm and little digs...I am saying that for ALL of us.

Sinister...not saying you dont accept that...just pointing it out for us.

On a better note...4 of my basketball girls from elemantary school recieved academic acheievment awards at middle school today including my daughter...was very happy.

Lurker

Appreciate your post Mike.

I'm not interested in the back and forth, I have no problem with disagreeing on opinions, but I don't stand by when someone comes at me. Turning the other cheek is not my deal. But I appreciate your comment.

SinisterCane

Posted by: UMike | May 06, 2015 at 09:56 AM


Umike I don't recall any blogger not accepting the fact that Golden was given another year, All I did was post a ESPN link regarding ACC Preseason ranking.

UMike

OK fellas...lets tone it down some, please. We all know were we all stand, no reason we cant talk about all our opinions without the need to attack, even in a slight way.

I do agree with Lurker that we all have to accept Golden has this year, nothing can change that. He is here. However, we are allowed to talk about defencisies we feel we have or issues that need to be changed from last year.

Im sure we ALL HOPE to see improvement... this staff has to earn it. As pissed off as we (or some of us) are, no need to go back and forth in any way but respectfully...on ALL sides.

Demons

We all know how GO CANES feel , he makes his post and we know where he is coming from and respect him for his stand, but his are not tinged with sarcasm.

Terrance Sullivan

Go Canes beat Bethune Cookman tonight at the Light. That is all.

Lurker

If you want another season to see if he surprises you, that's your prerogative,

Posted by: The Dude | May 06, 2015 at 03:25 AM

What I WANT or you want is completely irrelevant. He's getting another season, no matter what. We're getting another season. Period.

This is a perfect example of getting it twisted and presuming words/thoughts unto others.

I'm dealing with the actual reality of another season with Golden. My attitude is the one thing I can control. It's an actual choice: approach with optimism and hope, mixed in with reality (don't expect 12–0 or an NC), or at the other extreme, get mired in constant negativity. That's what I'm choosing from.

Demons

Letting the season play out is all well and good , but the reality of what happened last year is still fresh ,until new season starts up, we can still talk about what our deficiencies were ,so I guess we can stay off the blog until then and not say anything ?,if they are still asking Golden about last season on the radio , why cant we analyze him here also , check out his reactions on the herald today .

VfB_Cane

If you want another season to see if he surprises you, that's your prerogative, but some of us have seen enough to have made up our minds.

Posted by: The Dude | May 06, 2015 at 03:25 AM

Yep.
But it's the first season the new president will get to see from up close and gather the information he needs to decide.
If he likes what he sees, last season will not count for as much as we think.
On the other hand, as somebody pointed out, he is likely to make changes if next season doesn't show progress.

TonyCane

Hopefully the Hurricane Matrix of Swagger will be opened this season.

CaneRock


Cane rock, Dorsey's improvement from Year 3 to Year 4 was not what you should compare Kayaa against. It's the improvement from Year 1 to 2. That was where Dorsey made the big leap. That is where Kayaa hopefully makes the leap.

Posted by: TonyCane | May 05, 2015 at 08:23 PM

I hear ya'...but what I'm saying is, even with strides, Kaaya still literally needs a good to great running game to ease the pressure.

Ohio_Cane

#TopGun is on!

SOUP

Easy Ohio...please, go easy.

#Talladega

SOUP

Anything IS possible, including a much better season. My attitude is why not focus on that possibility since the season hasn't even started yet. I choose not to be miserable

Posted by: Lurker | May 05, 2015 at 10:24 PM

AMEN BROTHER!

Ohio_Cane

I FEEL THE NEED... THE NEED, FOR SPEED!!

Lurker

Realistic.

7 wins and Soup has to shut this blog down.

8 and nobody will be happy.

But either of those happen and we're talking about our new coach, anyway.

This past season gave the current staff very little margin for error.

The difference between me and some other people here is I'm letting the season play out. I'm not outright saying that Golden will fail . I don't know what will happen. If Kaaya can stay on his feet and has that big 1st to second year improvement we're all expecting, then anything is possible.

Anything IS possible, including a much better season. My attitude is why not focus on that possibility since the season hasn't even started yet. I choose not to be miserable

SOUP

We'll see what kind of coach Golden is this year, especially without Duke, Clive and Dorsett. We'll see what kind of motivator and innovator he is.

Posted by: herbieibis | May 05, 2015 at 03:41 PM

There IT is right there.

SOUP

remember when I learned how to make moonshine but forgot how to drive? Ha

Posted by: NativeCane | May 05, 2015 at 03:40 PM

I remember that and something about a chainsaw not being allowed in a State Park? LOL

SOUP

Its up to Miami to earn that respect with wins and prove them wrong.

Posted by: UMike | May 05, 2015 at 12:25 PM

YUP

TonyCane

Cane rock, Dorsey's improvement from Year 3 to Year 4 was not what you should compare Kayaa against. It's the improvement from Year 1 to 2. That was where Dorsey made the big leap. That is where Kayaa hopefully makes the leap.

Lurker

"At least win 9 or 10 games"...and that right there has been the problem under Golden's tenure..."at least".

Successful people shouldn't settle for "at least", successful people should settle for nothing less than EXCEEDING EXPECTATIONS.

Posted by: CaneRock | May 05, 2015 at 04:02 PM

That's the expectation. He doesn't need to go 12-0, or win an NC. We're dealing in the real world here. Those kinds of expectations come only after you've had some success. This year is about confirming one of two things, either we need to go in a different direction, or we're headed in the right direction. The only way we!re headed in the right direction is at least 9-10 wins and a bowl game win. Anything less, no bueno

CaneRock

NativeCane...noooooooo! I didn't know FT was no more...

SinisterCane

CANEZ had talent to go 11-1 or 10-2 but we'll see what 2015 brings

NativeCane

CR, 12-0 or bust!

Hey I was working in CR town today, down close to the remnants of Fl. Tile.....Sad to see all the industry around there vamoosed.

Did see a guy driving a beer cooler down George Jenkins Blvd. LOL!

Dem Canes!!!

Ohio_Cane

Billy Corben ‏@BillyCorben 50m50 minutes ago

6 of the 7 drafted Miami Hurricanes hail from South Florida, one from Tampa... http://miami.cbslocal.com/2015/05/05/visualizing-the-hometown-of-the-7-drafted-miami-hurricanes/

CaneRock

"At least win 9 or 10 games"...and that right there has been the problem under Golden's tenure..."at least".

Successful people shouldn't settle for "at least", successful people should settle for nothing less than EXCEEDING EXPECTATIONS.

herbieibis

We'll see what kind of coach Golden is this year, especially without Duke, Clive and Dorsett. We'll see what kind of motivator and innovator he is.

NativeCane

Native..."SRL" is Sugar Ray Leonard lolPosted by: UMike | May 05, 2015 at 01:24 PM

DOH!?!?!

They told me an education would make me smarter, besides when I learn something new it pushes something old out of my brain.....remember when I learned how to make moonshine but forgot how to drive? Ha

DEM CANES!!!

Lurker

----- That may not make sense to some people, but it does attract recruits ---------

Lurker

Anyone that thinks that the BOT, the big donors, and the administration are ok with what's happened the last 10 years is not correct. The new president wouldn't be ok with it either.

I'll give just 2 reasons, but there are several more.

First of all, all the people I mentioned in the first paragraph are successful people. Successful people are winners. They know what it is to compete, and to win. That's why they are where they are. They competed in business and won, and/or they competed in academics and won, they want to be the best. That's the difference between living in the outhouse and the big house. Successful people are always competing, and they're mostly winning. For competitive reasons, bragging rights, the prestige, and everything else, trust me these people want to win.

Secondly, winning at football at the highest levels has done nothing but bring megamoney into the university, and everyone that's involved with Miami either in the past or now knows that. I guarantee you they are well aware of all the money they have NOT made because of the last 10 years. It also helps academically in bringing in the best possible students you can. Let me not make sense to some people, but it does attract recruits. The academic kind, not just the athletic ones. Obviously not every student Miami went there because of the football program but it does help. And the loss in merchandising sales, ticket sales and a several other financial opportunities has been substantial.

Bottom line, the powers that be are looking for much better performance. This is definitely a crucial year for Golden, and I don't think it's unreasonable to say that if he doesn't win the coastal, or at least win nine or 10 games, he will lose his job. In fact, I think that might be a very likely scenario

VA Cane

I think it will all depend on the administration. Again 8 and 4 may suffice especially if one of the wins is FSU, and you can get to a Sun, Gator or Peach Bowl.This may work, though there is a cross section of the fanbase that wants to be elite. There is not a huge following....seems a lot like LA....not rabid, hungry. I am very set on winning....just how I feel and coach.Time will tell will just have to see.


Ohio_Cane

Jack Allison ‏@Jackof2016 55m55 minutes ago Palmetto, FL

Invited to the U.S Army All-American Game 🇺🇸

SinisterCane

Posted by: CaneRock | May 05, 2015 at 02:49 PM

If Golden doesn't win the Coastal I think Golden & Blake get their walking papers

CaneRock


AlPa may never leave if a new administrator comes in and is pleased with academics; being ok in sports may be ok to them....and its not really an accountability job you do not have to win.


Posted by: VA Cane | May 05, 2015 at 02:13 PM

IDK, but being that Frenk has a soccer background, I'll assume He has an idea of what a passionate fanbase looks like. SLS isn't exactly Estádio Jornalista Mário Filho on Saturdays.

Lurker

I can see that the low ranking might only have an effect in motivating some players.

But honestly, I don't think it would have that impact. If having a poor prior season, and just grinding to be your best, isn't enough to get you motivated, I don't know what would.

VA Cane

I like not being ranked it builds character.....and besides after last years fiasco, we dont deserve to be ranked...we need to earn it.

I do not dislike AlPa not at all. I do feel he is much more suited to where he came from...Temple, MAC conference, Harvard, Yale, William and Mary, University of Richmond....any Div 2 or 3.
his attack and whole attitude towards the game fit in much better at those levels....and there is nothing wrong with that. I think it would be easier for him as he could go 9-3 8-4 win enough to make folks happy, reach bowl games or playoffs and have a long career. We have reached the goal the current regime really desired; Harvard of The South.

We have great academics and average football. Some, alot of people are ok with that, and its mot a sin. I want to compete and win every year but thats me. AlPa may never leave if a new administrator comes in and is pleased with academics; being ok in sports may be ok to them....and its not really an accountability job you do not have to win. Just play good and get to some bowl may work.

Not my cup of tea, but I cannot or will not comment for others who may be very pleased to be that way.

Terrance Sullivan

I agree Da U in Houston. I like being ranked low.

SinisterCane

Posted by: Lurker | May 05, 2015 at 01:05 PM

First off it wasn't your opinion as you were speaking for others, you always seem to be the ground zero of conflict

CaneRock

Dorsey made strides, how did that negate losing McGahee in the 2003 NC?

Da U N Houston

I actually like the fact we are ranked so low. Now players need to STFU and grind!!!!!!

UMike

Native..."SRL" is Sugar Ray Leonard lol

NativeCane

At the end of the day, Mayweather would've beat SRL,Duran,Hagler & Chavez...the only guy I think that would've gave Mayweather issues, was Hearns, because of His force field like reach.But hell, SRL beat Hearns the same way Floyd WHOOPED Pacquiao...buy "running" LMAO!Posted by: CaneRock | May 05, 2015 at 12:01 AM

Dont forget Sugar Ray Leonard!

Go Canes

I'd actually be saying we shouldn't be based on what we lost.

We can do it, but beginning ahead of FSU and Clemson would make no sense.

TonyCane

IF Kayaa makes the leap in year two that I hope he does, it negates the loss of Duke Johnson. Miami will be better and deeper this season, with talent almost evenly distributed across all four signing classes. That has not existed since 2010.

Lurker

Again, the point being that these preseason rankings are completely irrelevant. An ESPN wildassed guess not only will have no impact on our future record, it won't even have an impact on the ACTUAL ranking services.

That's simply my opinion of a posted link.

Apparently, stating that causes ruffled feathers. Too bad. No one was harmed or insulted. If people want to get sensitive when someone states an opinion, that's on them, not me.

UMike

Although I do believe if the Canes were ACC pre-season favorites it would be broadcasted here with great fan fair and the "haters" would be saying it doesnt matter...just the way the Space works lol

UMike

Go Canes..I understand that, and the bad ones fall quickly. But if you are not ranked in the pre-season and go 10-1 and there are 4 other teams ranked 10-1, guess who gets left out lol...thats all Im saying. It helps to be ranked to start the year, it doesnt "mean" anything until games are played, but once games are played and if you win enough, at the end of the year you will wish you were ranked in the pre-season poll.

Go Canes

Last year Auburn, UCLA, S. Carolina, Oklahoma, and Stanford were pre-season top 10.

Rankings at this point mean nothing.

UMike

When you go 6-7 and lose to some of the teams we did, then go and lose your best player and best defensive player, you cant blame people for ranking you that low. Its up to Miami to earn that respect with wins and prove them wrong.

UMike

Go Canes..I agree no rankings should come out to after maybe 3-4 games...my point is that being ranked in the preseason helps when you have a winning season. It keeps you higher in the rankings, you dont have to jump people and leads to better bowls etc. So while we still have preseason rankings they still have some significances.

Terrance Sullivan

Also GT was picked 11th. Coach on hot seat sound familiar? IJS.

Go Canes

I think I prefer to actually see the games before determining where we're going to end up in the ACC.

Remember last season both Va Tech and UNC were ranked early in the season. That certainly didn't work out too well for either of them.

thirstybuzzardcane

Hopefully we can win the next seven of eight and do well (championship game) in the ACC tournament. I would really like to host a super regional!!!!

Sinistercane

Ohio

We' re not suppose to engage in any personal conflict on tha space right? So if Lurker really wanted to follow up my constant state the obvious post we wouldn't be having this convo today when I last told him don't engage me and I'll do the same

Ohio_Cane

Some fantasy info involving Dorsett: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/fantasy-roto-arcade/five-up--five-down--2015-nfl-draft-fantasy-stock-watch-212151032.html

UMike

Does anyone actually care, or think that preseason rankings have any effect on anything?

Didn't think so

Posted by: Lurker | May 05, 2015 at 11:24 AM

It certainly shows how bad we were last year lol...it does help if we actually win...otherwise we would have to climb over a lot of teams if not ranked high in preseason

Ohio_Cane

Here you go again and now your answering your own questions for everybody

Posted by: SinisterCane | May 05, 2015 at 11:37 AM
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He's just following up your constant stating the obvious posts, like "Golden better win".

SinisterCane

Posted by: Lurker | May 05, 2015 at 11:24 AM

Here you go again and now your answering your own questions for everybody

Lurker

Does anyone actually care, or think that preseason rankings have any effect on anything?

Didn't think so

SinisterCane

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/i...wer-rankings-2

Way to go Faildon, The U is preseason ranked 10 of 14 in the ACC

CaneRock

Duke Johnson | Draft Day 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziDuFrquiXU

Terrance Sullivan

Thanks Rock.

CaneRock

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TonyCane

Going back to the previous page, I like UFC over boxing, having grown to appreciate it in the last two years. Here is what has hurt boxing:

1) Too many organizations. How many are there...3? 4? In MMA there is UFC and to a much smaller extent Bellator. But UFC is synonymous with MMA.
2) Too little free expisure, and too much PPV.
3) Questionable decisions.
4) No American heavyweight champion.

Terrance Sullivan

Let's finish strong and win out our last 8 games at the Light. Go Canes.

CaneRock

But screw the fight, I wanna know did Cleveland win tonight...WWIN?!

CaneRock

At the end of the day, Mayweather would've beat SRL,Duran,Hagler & Chavez...the only guy I think that would've gave Mayweather issues, was Hearns, because of His force field like reach.

But hell, SRL beat Hearns the same way Floyd WHOOPED Pacquiao...buy "running" LMAO!

The Dude

Lurker,

If Mayweather's style is how to win a fight, then who wants to watch? I guess I shouldn't call it a fight but a boxing match. No wonder MMA has passed it up. They shouldn't award guys points for doing what Mayweather does, it's pretentious as hell.

The Dude

Tres.

CaneRock


Miami

34-13-0, 19-8-0

UM's running away with the ACCC.

CaneRock

UNO!

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