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May 10, 2015

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Lurker

Posted by: UMike | May 12, 2015 at 06:26 AM

I'm not "pro-Golden", I'm pro UM.

I don't make post after post about Golden. Positive or negative.

When every little bit of info or trivia spit out by a columnist is generally always turned into a huge negative and yet another reason to start bashing, to me, that's beating a dead horse.

In my opinion, what distinguished this site from all the others, in the past, was that most posters love the U. ALL THE U. Top to bottom. All sports. It's sad to see it slowly turning into every other site or comment section out there, where its bashing 24/7. It's not there yet, but some people seem determined to take it there.

UMike

Its not even CLOSE to bashing 24/7...not even close. You have your opinion of beating a dead horse, and I have mine.

Not one single poster here is "determined" to make this blog a bash only site like others...but others are entitled to their opinions and the current staff has earned the negative opinions they may give.

UMike

Anyone in the the UNC game?

Go Canes

Interesting comparison:

@ChaddScott: State of Georgia produced 30 2015 NFL Draft picks. Only 3 went to UGA. Is that a problem? Story http://t.co/l7jiImcZzM @kingcfb @ba680

SinisterCane

Until Blake and Golden gives us something different to discuss the Dead horse will continue to get beat to DEATH

UMike

I wonder if BJ will support Golden differently without DS. I know many people have said an outgoing President doesnt want to fire a coach and leave it for the next guy...maybe that is why BJ was su supportive, even after such a bad season.

herbieibis

UMike,
It's in my home state, so unless something unforeseen occurs, the Herb will be there.

UMike

Cool...at least I know 1 other Spacer will be there.

Lurker

SinisterCane
Until Blake and Golden gives us something different to discuss the Dead horse will continue to get beat to DEATH

Posted by: SinisterCane | May 12, 2015 at 10:31 AM

Kudos for your honesty.

And there, UMike, is your answer.

SinisterCane

Assuming Blake's testicular fortitude is reinstated on June 1 he should now have the juice to fire the worst coaching staff in the history of UM if things don't improve

Sarasota 'cane

http://newstome.blog.ajc.com/2015/05/11/falcons-paid-1-million-to-honor-military-hometown-heroes/

Did you all see this? The ONLY team who did not take money from the Armed Forces to "Honor" military vets during the halftime "Hometown Hero's" program was the New York Giants!

The rest of the NFL teams are charging the military a marketing fee to honor our veterans! The Falcon's have collected over 1 million themselves!! Disgraceful!

Corporate welfare and campaign contributions are the single greatest threat to our liberty today!! We need to stop tripping over dollar bills to pick up nickles from poor people!!

thirstybuzzardcane


It's coastal or he's gone!

Posted by: Go Canes | May 11, 2015 at 10:25 PM


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Now your talking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like how you think.

Go Canes

Just curious, why exactly would Golden get fired on June 1st?

We're talking two weeks from now June 1st?

Sinistercane

June 1st is when Donna leaves

Sinistercane

^^^^

Donna put the breaks on Golden's firing and now with her out of the picture of Golden fails he has no Donna to protect him

Lurker

Donna's technical "last day" is completely irrelevant. She's been gone for months, in the sense that every lame duck leader of large organizations is gone the second they announce they're leaving.

UMike

Kudos for your honesty.

And there, UMike, is your answer.

Posted by: Lurker | May 12, 2015 at 11:23 AM

Not sure I ever asked a question...this proves nothing lol...If he wants to talk about how bad the staff is thats his opinion (one the staff has earned)..if someone wants to say "the new President will make a change if not this many wins" over and over, thats their opinion..either way its beating a dead horse lol

No way Golden gets fired June 1st... BJ I think is locked into this year...hopefully the staff makes changes and improves and doesnt put BJ in a position to make that decision after the season.

Sinistercane

I guess Donna didn't want stain her legacy with 3 fired HC under her presidency

Sinistercane

Sorry for any confusion as I never said golden will be fired on June 1. I was truly to allude to fact Blakes hands are nolonger tied

USAFCane


http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sport...rylink=addthis

### A high-ranking UM official who has spent time with new UM president Julio Frenk said he doubts Frenk will inject himself into decisions regarding the future of Al Golden if next season is disappointing and Frenk likely will defer to what athletic director Blake James believes is best.


Posted by: Sinistercane | May 11, 2015 at 11:20 PM

doesn't sound like athletics are a priority. More of the same I fear.

Go Canes

I really can't believe anyone thinks there is even a 1% chance of that happening.

These stories of protection by Shalala and James are ludicrous. Golden staying was decided months ago by the BOT and that was that. No one was waiting in the wings for Donna to leave.

And as far as the new president goes, I'd be shocked if he has spent one second thinking about Golden since the day they spoke. That dude is up to his ears with far, far more pressing and important issues than football right now.

Sarasota 'cane

That cannot be believable. As much as I wanted a change in the off-season we are waaayyyyy beyond that point heading into summer camp.

Terrance Sullivan

Wonder how many of Us Canespacers are going for the FSU game in Tally. So we can get group tickets. Also where are we gonna stay. The rooms in Tally are either booked up or rates are astronomical. Go Canes.

Lurker

Everything gocanes just said.

It's the AD that's supposed to run the sports program. The president of any university must keep his/her focus on other matters, and rightly so. The decision the president will face is whether the AD is doing a good job or not. It's up to the AD to start the process to fire the coach, or not.

UMike

Lurker, werent you the one that said over and over that Golden wouldn't be fired because the President didnt want to leave that for the next President? I thought that was you...

I think the earliest Golden would get fired is if we stumble badly to start the year, and even that seemss unlikely.

UMike

TSully....I am thinking of it...and might be in for the FSU game. Not sure yet.

UMike

I do agree the new President probably isnt to concerned with football at the moment, and rightfully so.

Go Canes

I agree that the outgoing president did not want to leave that mess for the new one.

But that in no way is an indication that the new guy was going to come in and make a change without knowing anyone involved and all honesty, anything about football either.

j.w.

I really can't believe anyone thinks there is even a 1% chance of that happening.

These stories of protection by Shalala and James are ludicrous. Golden staying was decided months ago by the BOT and that was that. No one was waiting in the wings for Donna to leave.

And as far as the new president goes, I'd be shocked if he has spent one second thinking about Golden since the day they spoke. That dude is up to his ears with far, far more pressing and important issues than football right now.

Posted by: Go Canes | May 12, 2015 at 12:25 PM
Go, I can't agree with you on this. I doubt the Board as a whole spent more than 2 minutes considering Golden's status, they have bigger issues to deal with. But, I would be surprised if Frenck didn't have discussions about one of the hot-button issues that has affected Shalala's legacy. He would be a fool not to have considered Golden to be blunt.
What it all means is anyone's guess, but mine is 1) the Board is very much aware of what is going on with perception of the football program, 2) the Board is deferring to James, and will soon give him the proverbial kiss of death by saying they have all the confidence in the world that he will handle Athletics, and 3)that Frenk has no reason to stay loyal to James if things don't work out.
As for whether UM athletics are successful under James, I won't disagree with a lot of what you say. But we aren't doing well in the sport that matters most. Much like the State of Alabama could care less if Alabama wins national titles in gymnastics, softball, women's basketball, cross county, baseball, and/or volleyball if the football team isn't winning, UM supporters are not happy. Trying to sell the current state of UM athletics as a success is like trying to convince someone that a chocolate cake is fantastic when the chocolate in the recipe is terrible.

Terrance Sullivan

UMike sounds good my Brotha.

SinisterCane

Posted by: Go Canes | May 12, 2015 at 12:25 PM

Just cause U don't believe it doesn't mean its not true, its posted more time than I can count that Donna was going to leave to the Prez to handled Golden HC firing if he fails next season. Donna also asked fans to give Golden more time in his second yr. lol

SinisterCane


Wonder how many of Us Canespacers are going for the FSU game in Tally. So we can get group tickets. Also where are we gonna stay. The rooms in Tally are either booked up or rates are astronomical. Go Canes.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | May 12, 2015 at 12:32 PM

My wife and I are interested. What do you need from and when?

USAFCane

Everything gocanes just said.

It's the AD that's supposed to run the sports program. The president of any university must keep his/her focus on other matters, and rightly so. The decision the president will face is whether the AD is doing a good job or not. It's up to the AD to start the process to fire the coach, or not.

Posted by: Lurker | May 12, 2015 at 12:33 PM

Agreed, but the President and BOT likely determine how important athletics will be. Status quo or a commitment to winning. Other schools committed the latter. I'm not sold Miami will do the same.

VA Cane

I am ok with AlPa; not a bad guy at all, certainly not a great Div 1 coach. However, nobody is going anywhere; the regime is aware that the football fans are not happy, and we must let this play out. I am hoping for a good season; face it AlPa is not going to win the NC, much less make the playoff. Not going to happen. However, he can have a good seasonn, have a great class remain intact and we may see a brighter future.
I am not convinced he will ever get us back to glory; I am not convinced he will win a title. He is not a better coach than Beamer, though he is at a school that has won NC.

I am willing to pull for him to get us back to better days, and then see what happens.

Sarasota 'cane

If any Dolphin fans here want to go to see the Dolphins play the Titans @ Nashville in October let me know. I am hooked up with a fan club out of Northern California and this dude has a great trip planned for the game.

There will be hundreds of Dolphin fans from all across the country flying in for the game. If you've never been to Nashville this would be a great time to visit. The stadium is right across the river from one of the best strip of bars in the country!! Should be a hoot!!

Go Dolphins!!

UMike

Sota...I am 2 hours from Nashville..I might want in on that lol

Terrance Sullivan

My comments are being eaten. Sigh.

Sarasota 'cane

It's gonna be a blast!! Nashville is the shyt!!

VA Cane

The biggest oversight for the failures listed in the article imo is inconsistent o line play. Sure Flowers and Feleciano were drafted, but if you know anything about line play....I do....then you can see the issues. The guys are too fat for me, not enough muscle, not quick fast strong or athletic. They move slow when they pull or reach block, and often are confused by blitzes and stunts on passes. They did well in straight on blocking or quick openers, but not good on sweeps. Duke got some good block straight on and did a lot on his own. Our guys shuffle and shuttle their feet instead of picking them up and hustling....how often do you see them downfield? There is quite a bit of room for many improvements by all on O.

Lurker

Lurker, werent you the one that said over and over that Golden wouldn't be fired because the President didnt want to leave that for the next President? I thought that was you...

Posted by: UMike | May 12, 2015 at 12:39 PM

I did say something like that in response to people saying that "Donna should fire Golden"

It doesn't negate what I said today. Donna was more involved with athletics than the average college president. She did it by choice because she loves sports, loved the SA's, and attended all kinds of sports events. Ask Soup, ask anybody. She was there, at parties, at celebrations, at games on and on. I was running into her all the time.

In addition, although I was never in the room, I believe Donna was more involved in big decisions when it came to big hiring and firing decisions, in the sense that Blake consulted with her a little more than what one would expect, because of her love of collegiate athletics and of the University.

I do believe that firing/not firing Golden was a big picture issue, and even if they wanted to fire golden, I don't think they would have them. But they were going to give him the extra year anyway so that was that.

Nothing I said is mutually exclusive

Lurker

Also, we'll see about Frenk, but I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't as visible as for Layla.

That's not a bad thing, the AD should be the guy that spends 24/7/365 on the health of all athletics, especially football. It is going to be do or die time for Blake James in the next year or two, because I think Frenk will be more of a delegator.

He needs to leave it to the a AD and the BOT to make the big decisions, and then hold them responsible for the results of those decisions. Everyone has their areas of expertise, and big-time college sports programs are not an area of expertise for Frank. That's not a criticism, that's just a statement of fact

Lurker

Also, we'll see about Frenk, but I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't as visible as Shalala.

That's not a bad thing, the AD should be the guy that spends 24/7/365 on the health of all athletics, especially football. It is going to be do or die time for Blake James in the next year or two, because I think Frenk will be more of a delegator.

He needs to leave it to the a AD and the BOT to make the big decisions, and then hold them responsible for the results of those decisions. Everyone has their areas of expertise, and big-time college sports programs are not an area of expertise for Frank. That's not a criticism, that's just a statement of fact

Sarasota 'cane

I think we are all in lock-step with our expectations for Al Golden this season. No one on Canespace will support anything similar to what we experienced last season. Way too much talent not to compete for the Coastal.

SinisterCane

Coastal or Bust

SinisterCane

Under Donna's Presidency:

2 Fired Football HC's - should be 3
1 Fired Basketball HC
2 Athletic Directors quit
NCAA investigation in which she was implicit in

Good Luck with the Clinton Foundation

Terrance Sullivan

Sarasota is spot on.

Sarasota 'cane

My buddy who is a nole fan posted a garbage story about FSU "owning" UM since Jimbo got to Tally. I'm disputing that fact, but the reason Miami is still revered as one of the greatest teams of all time is that when we "owned" our rivals, they were usually ranked in the Top 5 and had their eyes on the same prizes that we did!

Every trophy that FSU or UF has in their trophy case came at a time that UM was is in some sort of turmoil.

Sarasota 'cane

"I'm not disputing that fact..."

Lurker

SinisterCane
Under Donna's Presidency:

1 Fired Basketball HC
2 Athletic Directors quit
NCAA investigation in which she was implicit in

Good Luck with the Clinton Foundation

Posted by: SinisterCane | May 12, 2015 at 03:30 PM

No credibility with that post. Basketball coach not fired.

"Implicit" in NCAA investigation??? What does that even mean? The way she handled the NCAA investigation was one of her best moments, Reasonable people believe that because of her, we came out of that mess much better than what it could have been.

Not personally attacking you, that was just way out there.

You hate Donna, that's fine, just come out say it

Go Canes

That post is just dumb.

Coker was hired before she took over.

Everyone LOVED the Randy hire.

Haith left for Missouri.

She was never implicated in the Shapiro mess.

What about the fantastic hires in Meyer and Larranega.

The baseball team is national championship caliber.

Silly

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