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June 17, 2015

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86Cane

NEW BLOG IS UP!

Lur-ker

Partisan? I don't understand what he means by that. Poor choice of words. Someone that writes for a living should learn how to use the right words instead of making people guess what they mean

Lur-ker

I'm assuming that's legit. But don't know if it is or isn't. If it's a legit button, and they were aware of it, as they probably would have been, of course it's on them because they should have put a stop to it. Either way, it won't matter even if it is legit. Teflon.

CaneRock

3. No home cooking: Because the location of Sun Life Stadium isn’t ideal, and the program has taken a significant downturn, Miami has not enjoyed home-field advantage like many of its would-be national competition. Heck, anytime Florida State or Clemson plays at Miami, the crowd is essentially partisan. Miami has been downed at home by the likes of Pittsburgh, Boston College, Virginia and Kansas State even as a hefty favorite. So with Clemson defensive products like Mackensie Alexander, Jayron Kearse, Adrian Baker and Richard Yeargin prepping to show out near their hometowns in south Florida, the Tigers likely won’t be daunted by this particular road trip.

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150624/PC0312/150629693/clemson-opponent-preview-no-7-miami-oct-24

Dude on a Pale Horse

Doesn't sound like the Clintons had anything to do with the campaign buttons so why should it stick?

Ohio_Cane

I thought we had a DT Jucco commit? Haven't seen him listed for a week>

Posted by: herbieibis | June 24, 2015 at 01:12 PM
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Walvenski Aime. He decommitted about 5 days after committing lol

herbieibis

I thought we had a DT Jucco commit? Haven't seen him listed for a week>

Lur-ker

^^^^^^^^^

They're Teflon. It won't affect them.

NativeCane

Lord forgive me for this ant hill Im fixin' to kick.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/06/23/clinton-gore-confederate-campaign-button-surfaces-online/21199944/

Lur-ker

I'm sorry, CR. we're done with this.

Nobody says there was no intermarriage. In fact one of the most famous intermarriages relates back to Jamestown. Pocahontas.

No offense, but you clearly don't understand the concept of burden of proof when making a claim that is otherwise unverifiable.

My objection is not with the specific subject of intermarriage, as we could be discussing any subject. My objection is with the incredible spread of opinion, falsehoods, and speculation being passed off as fact on the Internet.

Making a statement, does not make it true. The truth lies in the verification, not in conjecture and having to prove a negative, which is what you're doing. Making the dissenter (me) have to prove a negative is a most simple and basic logic fail and disqualifies you in any judged debate. Again, the burden of proof is on the one making the claim (you). Otherwise, one can make any claim, and if challenged, come back with "prove me wrong"

To weigh the veracity of a claim, there at least must be some basis in fact.

End of discussion on my end.

86Cane

We must each fight and resist such injustice in our everyday lives....and teach all our children that these things can never be tolerated or ever exist again.

Posted by: VA CANE | June 24, 2015 at 12:24 AM

THIS

Ohio_Cane

Ryan Fines ‏@RyanJFines 16m16 minutes ago

Completed military training. So thankful to have been able to participate in this! Definitely made us a better team! #theprogram #TheU


Interesting. I didn't hear about this happening. I like it.

Terrance Sullivan

The Uniforms will be revealed on July 18th at the Fountainbleu on Miami Beach. We can check it out then. But gold star to Matt for trying to get additional clicks lol. Go Canes.

Go Canes

@mattyports: Are these the 2015 Miami Hurricanes uniforms from Adidas? No, but close to it. See more: http://t.co/UQpx3NiFsI http://t.co/k53fWZHKiW

CaneRock

Posted by: Lur-ker | June 23, 2015 at 11:01 PM

Again, this is according to that bogus link that you provided:

"1691 First act prohibiting intermarriage."

Why would they make a law prohibiting intermarriage, if they weren't already doing it?...72 years after the first Africans landed on JT?

Answer those questions...


Go Canes

@mattyports: UM 2nd-Rd LHP Andy Suarez to SF for full-slot $1.0101M, per @JonathanMayo. Drafted in 2014 by WSH, made $ by returning for R-Jr. year.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Don't know about the half statistic but it seems highly unlikely that white women married former black indentured servants at that high a number in Colonial America as single white women were something of a rare comodity back then. Of course I'm not saying it didn't happen at all, but racism and bigotry were a serious fact of life back then, we've really come a very long way since then. Most mulattos came from white men taking black wives because of the woman shortage.

VA CANE

This subject is sensitive to all of us as we all have different views. I will say this all racism is wrong and the owning of slaves is never right. No law or person is going to change these things; we must each fight and resist such injustice in our everyday lives....and teach all our children that these things can never be tolerated or ever exist again.
I respect all of you, I think we need to talk about football more! We need a great year, so lets do it!
Just Win Baby! Thanks AD!

Lur-ker


This is 72 YEARS AFTER the first Africans landed on JT. Obviously Africans & Euros were getting married, for them to prohibit it. This is ALL according to that FAULTY TIMELINE that YOU provided.

Posted by: CaneRock | June 23, 2015 at 07:20 PM

You have that link that backs up your claim yet?

Bueller?

I only provided two very reliable sources. The only place I've seen your claim, is an anonymous post on a sports blog. So who am I to believe? The National Parks Service (a government agency) and the Washington Post (along with many historians that study this stuff) or the anonymous poster with no citations or references.

Using you logic, we could say there were Martians or Aborigines from Australia on that ship

It's just basic logic, CR. Nothing personal. I think you're a fine person, but hearing something somewhere from somebody doesn't make it fact. Don't work that way. Facts have to be supported with documentation.

VA CANE

UVA up 3 0 over Vandy hanging in there.
Article about UM spot on, well written. I am concerned with both lines.....they are key to success. AG has to win this year, have a big year. Its about action this year no time for talking. Sure hope things go well.

Ohio_Cane

THIS is what makes Canespace GREAT!

Posted by: 86Cane | June 23, 2015 at 08:36 PM
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This, and many, many other things!!

86Cane

Harry Miller, "the eagle has landed".

Thank U so much for your donation! Greatly appreciated!!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | June 23, 2015 at 06:23 PM

THIS is what makes Canespace GREAT!

CaneRock

Posted by: Lur-ker | June 23, 2015 at 06:50 PM

This is from that VERY FAULTY timeline that you provided:

"1691 First act prohibiting intermarriage."

This is 72 YEARS AFTER the first Africans landed on JT. Obviously Africans & Euros were getting married, for them to prohibit it. This is ALL according to that FAULTY TIMELINE that YOU provided.

Lur-ker

No offense intended, CR.

I see all kinds of stuff on the Internet.

I see all kinds of stuff on the Internet. It really doesn't matter what you think happened but what matters is what reputable sources say out there. I've never seen anything to even closely confirm what you said. There is just no historical record to even closely back up your claim.

Provide a link or source, or it's just made up imaginary stuff. I say thix because, sadly back in the 1600s that was something that was not accepted by society. There would be some record of it, it would've been noted. Today it's no big deal. In the 1950's it was a big deal. In the 1600's it would have been a HUGE deal. Especially with class conscious British descendants.

Ohio_Cane

Harry Miller, "the eagle has landed".


Thank U so much for your donation! Greatly appreciated!!

Go Canes

@sinoricemoss: This Coach Swasey meme has me in tears. 😭 I Love my @MiamiHurricanes @CanesFootball Family. 🙌🏾 http://t.co/HUKjrrebme

Go Canes

This is hysterical:

@sinoricemoss: This Coach Swasey meme has me in tears. 😭 I Love my @MiamiHurricanes @CanesFootball Family. 🙌🏾 http://t.co/HUKjrrebmeI'm

CaneRock

Also, I find it very peculiar that that timeline omitted Bacon's Rebellion. Bacon's Rebellion was an uprising by Euro & African indentureds, that eventually led to the Africans being permanently enslaved.

CaneRock


half the former indentured Africans in Jamestown, were married to white women.

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I've never heard this before.

Posted by: Lur-ker | June 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM

LOL...you don't know what a mulatto is?

The answer is in the VERY vague & suspect timeline of the first link that you provided:

"Legislation was passed defining the status of mulatto children. Children would be considered the same status as the mother. If the child was born to a slave, the child would be considered a slave."

Lur-ker

half the former indentured Africans in Jamestown, were married to white women.

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I've never heard this before.

The historical record, as far as I'm aware, see two links below, makes no mention of this. If you have a source, please post. I don't do this to be a jerk, but there's a lot of stuff spread spread on the Internet as fact without solid scientific or historical foundation.

I only believe in what can be documented through science or rigorous scholarship.

http://www.nps.gov/jame/learn/historyculture/african-americans-at-jamestown.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/02/AR2006090201097.html

NativeCane

Former Wichita State Coach reflects on Miamis first CWS title.
Good read:

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article24087370.html

NativeCane

Morris optimistic about a return to Omaha next year.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article24897901.html

Go Canes

@GoldenAl: The Transformation continues. The New UHealth Building is literally right next to our fields. #TransformationTuesday http://t.co/sNAYduoOpz

NativeCane

Soup, FB wont let me go there, prolly something to do with state forests and chainsaws!

CaneRock

Let's get some facts straight about slavery in America...

First of all, the first slaves in the AMERICAN COLONIES were actually Europeans...but back then-as most of you should know-they weren't called slaves, they were called indentured servants.

Secondly, the first Africans that arrived on the AMERICAN COLONIES, were NOT slaves, they were ALSO indentured servants. Matter of fact, it's been said that you couldn't tell the difference between a European or African indentured servant. Believe it or not, half the former indentured Africans in Jamestown, were married to white women.

Lastly, before the first European arrived in America, Native Americans practiced some forms of slavery with POWs. Although it wasn't nearly as brutal in what would later be called plantation or chattel slavery.

JCane

Congrats, Soup.

For those who really want to understand what the Civil War was about, and truly understand what the meaning of the Emancipation Proclamation was (it was war, and it was a message to create havoc in certain states):

Abraham Lincoln

The Emancipation Proclamation 1863
Context
On Jan. 1, 1863, U.S. President Abraham Lincoln declared free all slaves residing in territory in rebellion against the federal government. This Emancipation Proclamation actually freed few people. It did not apply to slaves in border states fighting on the Union side; nor did it affect slaves in southern areas already under Union control. Naturally, the states in rebellion did not act on Lincoln's order. But the proclamation did show Americans-- and the world--that the civil war was now being fought to end slavery.

Lincoln had been reluctant to come to this position. A believer in white supremacy, he initially viewed the war only in terms of preserving the Union. As pressure for abolition mounted in Congress and the country, however, Lincoln became more sympathetic to the idea. On Sept. 22, 1862, he issued a preliminary proclamation announcing that emancipation would become effective on Jan. 1, 1863, in those states still in rebellion. Although the Emancipation Proclamation did not end slavery in America--this was achieved by the passage of the 13TH Amendment to the Constitution on Dec. 18, 1865--it did make that accomplishment a basic war goal and a virtual certainty.

DOUGLAS T. MILLER

Bibliography: Commager, Henry Steele, The Great Proclamation (1960); Donovan, Frank, Mr. Lincoln's Proclamation (1964); Franklin, John Hope, ed., The Emancipation Proclamation (1964).

Terrance Sullivan

Congratulations Soup.

86Cane

Second place does not feel right for a Hurricane, does it? Gonna get first place for June!

86Cane

Second from top left!

86Cane

Hey, looky here:

https://www.facebook.com/WatsonRealtyCorp/photos/np.1434977244842314.100000563896183/10153275987645091/?type=1#_=_

trianglecane

I understand TD.

6 of the 10 riches people pre civil war were slave owners from SC.

So I agree that slavery was interwoven into the southern economy. that being said I believe that the war was to keep slavery legal.

Dude on a Pale Horse

^^^ many poor people relied on a slave economy also.

trianglecane

I believe...To wealthy slave owners the war was definitely about slavery. Free labor was the corner stone of our great nation. (Check all of our founding father except John Adams.

But, the rich couldn't say to the poor.. "we need to fight-cause those Yankee's are going to cut into my profits"..

But, if you say that those Yankee's are trying to tell me\you how to live, you have something the poor can fight for.

I do respect sincere opinions, even those that differ from my own.

Lur-ker

Helicopter parents are always embarrassing their kids.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/06/22/diddy-arrested-fight-ucla-football-coach-justin/

Dude on a Pale Horse

I guess the bottom line is that the Confederate flag has different meanings for different people, but I agree that it became a symbol of hate, meant to remind blacks of slavery. It doesn't give me strong feelings one way or another. The American flag could be considered just as offensive to some groups, hower racist groups haven't mainstreamed it's use for hateful purposes. Like these new nazi flags. They aren't really the swastika, which is banned, but they are the swastika too.

Dude on a Pale Horse

^^^ I agree. Seems like all it ever was was a F-U to the civil rights movement. My Dad's great-great grandfather was in a cavalry regiment from Tennessee. We have his saber, carbine, musket, flag and a few hundred dollars in Confederate money. Now we are a multi-cultural family with blacks, whites, asians and hispanics. We treat these things like historical artifacts. I disagree that the notion that the Civil War was a war over slavery though. An overwhelming majority of people who fought for the CSA didn't own slaves, and as you probably know, Northern whites were mostly very racist. While slavery was a key issue, the war was based on who should decide the future of the American people, the States or the Feds. In Argentina they had similar problems, except the Feds paid the slave owners for their slaves.

CaneRock

TD...GOOD! It should've never went up in the first place.

Dude on a Pale Horse

CR,

Looks like the flag is coming down. Governor and Senator Graham say take it down.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Mark & Al are finally listening to sound criticism and are switching to a 1 gap front. I expect the LBs and DBs to play much better based solely on the fact that the opposing QB will have to make faster decisions and the RBs might have a dude change their line. Hopefully Brad, James Coley and the OL get better by practicing against a more aggressive front. I'm a Miami Hurricanes fan. I only am because dominance is a birthright for The U. I'll expect and accept nothing less. 12-0 is as realistic next year as Miami could have been last year. P.S. Tell your family how much you love them. You never know when they won't be there anymore. Seriously, tell someone you love how much you love them today.

CaneRock

Damn good #s for a 209 pounder:

Jamal Carter

From Rotoworld.

Canes S Carter possesses superhuman strength

Miami junior S Jamal Carter lifts a combined 1,233 pounds between the bench press, squat and power clean.

Seeing as though he only weighs 209 pounds, the strength is noteworthy. Carter began his career as a special teamer and then had 21 tackles and five pass breakups as a backup last year. He should see the field far more often this fall.

Sarasota 'cane

The dog days of summer are upon us! The silver lining is that we are that much closer to kickoff!!

Go 'canes!!

Go Canes

@JordanHeckFF: Andre Johnson said an NFL team made of @MiamiHurricanes could win a Super Bowl. So I put together a team: http://t.co/xNjC5TVRcs

CaneRock

Agree with the article on the 3-4 & 5-2 starts...but I disagree on the 4-3 start. I don't see Golden surviving an 8-4...NO signature win...NO ACCC...NO bowl win season. Especially if FSU opens the gap on & off the field in recruiting.

Go Canes

That article is basically everything I feel.

Very thorough and balanced.

herbieibis

The secondary is only going to be good if we can get some consistent pressure on the QB. We have talent in the secondary, our LB's are going to be a big question mark, as well as our interior. We have some talent at DE.
O-line will probably be up and down, because most of our talent is young and relatively inexperienced. We have the backs, the Wr's to excel on Offense. The TE position is a bit of a Concern. As long as we go balls to the wall, we should be okay but if we start that BS, playing not to lose, then at times it could get ugly.

CaneRock

As far as the iffy run game that's mentioned in that article, it could've been because teams were stackin' the box, and daring Kaaya to beat em'.

You can run the ball with 7-8 in the box... but when they start loadin' that sucka up with 9-10 defenders, you better be able to CHUNK IT!

CaneRock

Reading that article, the OLine concerns me. There's talent there, but I don't see much cohesion in terms of experience together. Kehoe's gonna have to earn that paycheck this year.

CaneRock

Maaaaaan, yesterday was the most hateful Father's Day in FB history. I couldn't even enjoy the FB love because of the hate. The most bitter,hateful, drawn out Father's Day I've ever seen. Next year I'ma just personally give out my MVPs...Thank God for CaneSpace!

Lur-ker

The headline of the article is:

"Al Golden hasn't restored Miami's dynasty, but he's actually doing a decent job"

Lur-ker

Here's an interesting read. One writer's opinion on the job Golden is doing in Miami:

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/6/22/8816887/miami-hurricanes-football-2015-preview-schedule-roster

Ohio_Cane

SB✯Nation CFB ‏@SBNationCFB 15m15 minutes ago

You can make a dang good NFL team out of former two-star recruits http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/6/22/8743525/nfl-two-star-recruits

CaneRock

Big game full of mixed emotions for UM goalie:

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mls/article25135324.html

WWIN

Happy Fatthers Day WWIN!

Posted by: Lur-ker | June 21, 2015 at 05:00 PM

Thanks!

CaneRock

As far as a pure RB, I think Walton may be better than Duke coming outta HS. Now will He have the same, or better impact that Duke had His freshman year...TBD.

Lur-ker

Oh and Mark Walton may not make us forget about the Duke, but he's going to definitely push the other two guys. I think he'll be getting a lot of playing time by the end of the year. Watch out for this kid.

Lur-ker

Good to read. How many times did we lose 2 - 4 players a year due to failure to qualify?

Posted by: TonyCane | June 21, 2015 at 03:40 PM

It's definitely happened to us in the past. I think almost every top school loses people due to the academics, maybe not every single year, but they do lose them on a pretty regular basis.

Thankful we got everybody in this year, though.

Go Canes

With great power comes great responsibility.

Peter Paker's uncle.

jgatsby1112

86cane....word,dude!

CaneRock

My last words on the subject...but as far as that terrorist flag, and the CW, I stand by what I said...THAT IS ALL!

Lur-ker

Happy Fatthers Day WWIN!

WWIN

Today is one of the few days of the year when we get to do mostly what we want. Mostly. No chores. All the beer I can drink. Great day.

Posted by: Lur-ker | June 21, 2015 at 03:47 PM

Lol! You said that right!!! Happy Father's Day Lurker!

NativeCane

These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world. John 16:33

^^^^^and no thats not a Jimmy Johnson quote. Ha

Dem Canes!!!


86Cane

Just in case anybody is interested in facts and history:

http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/emancipation-150/i-would-save-the-union.html

Lur-ker

Great quotes from a great man who suffered much, but achieved more. A real example to all.

86Cane

This one is for Mrs. 86:

“A woman is the only thing I am afraid of that I know will not hurt me.”

― Abraham Lincoln

86Cane

This is the motto I live by:

“I do the very best I know how, the very best I can, and I mean to keep on doing so until the end.”

― Abraham Lincoln

86Cane

This one is for BEERicane:

“When I do good, I feel good. When I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion.”

― Abraham Lincoln

86Cane

This one is for ALL Canes fans:

“In this sad world of ours sorrow comes to all and it often comes with bitter agony. Perfect relief is not possible except with time. You cannot now believe that you will ever feel better. But this is not true. You are sure to be happy again. Knowing this, truly believing it will make you less miserable now. I have had enough experience to make this statement.”

― Abraham Lincoln

86Cane

This one is for TSully:

“My father taught me to work, but not to love it. I never did like to work, and I don't deny it. I'd rather read, tell stories, crack jokes, talk, laugh -- anything but work.”

― Abraham Lincoln

BEERicane

There is no God. Therefore is there no right?

-Beericane

86Cane

This one is for MaryLouAlumni:

“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”

― Abraham Lincoln

86Cane

This one is for WWIN:

“My concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right.”

― Abraham Lincoln

86Cane

This one is for NativeCane:

“And in the end it is not the years in your life that count, it's the life in your years.”

― Abraham Lincoln

86Cane

This one is for UMike:

“Folks are usually about as happy as they make their minds up to be.”

― Abraham Lincoln

86Cane

To turn this conversation around lets post the best quotes of Abraham Lincoln, who many consider one of the greatest U.S. Presidents of all time:

This one is for CaneRock (read first four words 1000 times):

"With Malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds."

Abraham Lincoln

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/abraham_lincoln_4.html#Yze4TvoPXWAxEfLU.99

86Cane

HAPPY FATHERS DAY!

86Cane

The Civil War was fought to end slavery...PERIOD!

Posted by: CaneRock | June 21, 2015 at 12:06 PM

There is a history major for you.

How about we let this little conversation go?

trianglecane

Happy Fathers Day Spacers!

Lur-ker

Happy Fathers Fay to Native and all the CS dads.

Making a baby is easy, being a good dad is not. You have to put in the work.

Today is one of the few days of the year when we get to do mostly what we want. Mostly. No chores. All the beer I can drink. Great day.

TonyCane

### UM says there won’t be any academic casualties in its incoming recruiting class; the final five players are enrolling shortly, including defensive tackle Gerald Willis, who was booted from the Gators and won’t be eligible to play until 2016.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2015/06/tough-roster-decisions-loom-for-dolphins-heatwade-napier-jennings-transition-.html

Good to read. How many times did we lose 2 - 4 players a year due to failure to qualify?

thirstybuzzardcane

Happy Fathers day CR, T, TBuzz, Lurker!

Posted by: NativeCane | June 21, 2015 at 12:30 PM

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Thanks Native!!!! Happy father's day to u and everyone else on the Space!! My wife and I are expecting a boy any day now. We actually went in to the hospital this morning thinking today was the day, but it was a false alarm....She is being induced tomorrow for sure though.

This will be our second child, we already have a little girl who just turned 4. Parenthood is the best thing in the world!!!!!!

Terrance Sullivan

Hopefully one Friday night probably before the Nebraska game we can all meet up at the Duffy's in Plantation and meet and hang out especially for the Canesspace Peeps that haven't met each other yet. Go Canes. If U all go on Phil Steele site today he got the Canes info for the free. I printed it out its interesting. I am gonna go out on the limb and say we shock the College Football World and Go 12-0 in regular season. Go Canes.

CaneRock

Also Native, I got peeps in PDL,Freeport, and The Yak (Defuniak)...not exactly vacation hotspots, but good places if you want some peace & quiet.

CaneRock

Thank Native...and a HFD to all the Space & Cane Daddies out there.

Terrance Sullivan

Happy Father's Day everyone Native, Soup, KY, Old Skool can't wait for us to hang out and have a blast tailgating for FSU in Tally on October 10th. Go Canes. Hopefully we can buy all our tickets together and sit together like we did 2 years ago.

WWIN

Posted by: Lur-ker | June 21, 2015 at 10:22 AM

One last time since you still don't get it... the joke at UM was about the FLAG not about the CHURCH KILLINGS!!!

Also I was messing with Soup, it was NOT intended for you...that's why at the end it said "just messing with you Soup, don't ban me"

Happy Father's Day to all the Canespace Dad's today!!!

NativeCane

Vernon, Bonifay, Chipley, Hinsons Crossroads.

Happy Fathers day CR, T, TBuzz, Lurker!

NativeCane

Bull Connors is dead but the Bull here at the Space goes on forever! ;) (and thats just the way I like it)

Happy Fathers Day yall!

CaneRock

NativeCane...what part of Washington County are your folks from?...I got folks in Holmes County myself...

Terrance Sullivan

Smdh.

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