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July 24, 2015

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Dude on a Pale Horse

Uno!

Terrance Sullivan

The Godfather. Thank U Howard! Awesome picture of Howard and KYCane two Louisville Legends who love the U! Go Canes!

Terrance Sullivan

Awesome Picture of Howard and RaizeCane. Go Canes!

laquinton

Nice !!

CaneRock

CFBHOF need to stop actin' like hoes and induct Schnell.:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/fl-hyde-column-0724-20150723-column.html

Terrance Sullivan

Exactly Rock

86Cane

Now U tell me who else has photos like these?

#Classic

raizecane

Thats a nice looking shirt KY is sporting.....

86Cane

Thats a nice looking shirt KY is sporting.....

Posted by: raizecane | July 24, 2015 at 11:52 PM

Yeah, do you know where I can get one? I'd give anything for a cool shirt like that!

Terrance Sullivan

86Cane Rules! That is all!

WWIN

It's worn out like some 85 Wranglers.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | July 24, 2015 at 04:40 PM

Please tell that you got that line from Master P... "Break em off something"???

If so... I knew you was my boy for some reason lol

Terrance Sullivan

Yesss Sir WWIN!

Go Canes

Very interesting article:

@davehydesports: A fistfight symbolized UM's problems last year - a senior vs. a freshman. Has the generation gap been solved? Column http://t.co/HVd4xvr7wG

Go Canes

@pbpsports: Recruiting: Hurricanes commit shows up to Gators camp in Miami gear http://t.co/ra8nJodf2f

Go Canes

Another excellent article detailing another disadvantage this program was facing:

@ChristyChirinos: In tomorrow's @SunSentinel: #Canes hope new facilities give them a 'wow' factor...http://t.co/xvZsssDa10

Ohio_Cane

Shaq Quarterman showed up to Florida's FNL decked out in Canes gear! LOL, love this kid. He's like Duke in so many ways.

SinisterCane

Hyde: Has UM solved a chemistry issue this season?

After the loss, in the locker room, as the regular season finally came to its end against Pittsburgh, two University of Miami football players fought last year, as can happen at the intersection of raw anger and simmering disappointment..

The names aren't important. Nor are the thrown fists and words or the way others got involved, coaches running to help break up what became a symbol for a season gone wrong.

Senior vs. freshman.


Those were the involved players. Their class rank told the larger story of the fracture inside Miami's team, the one that took over last season in a manner coach Al Golden couldn't control and was left for matriculation to heal.

"Most of that issue is gone, just because most of those players who were so upset are," said a departed Miami senior who still is close to the program and requested anonymity. "All this talk about better unity and accountability – it's true. But then it's easy to say in the spring and summer."


It's either now or new coach. Golden won't last another season with this bulls### going on. Perhaps this chemistry/accountability is exactly what Miami needs to inject some attitude in their blood. Watching 30 for 30 on The U- it was theses attributes that made past Canes Teams as...
This isn't about a locker-room fight. The greatest Miami teams had fights. The legendary bout had Michael Irvin out-slugging George Mira Jr. for a bloody 10 minutes in the weight room as teammates stood and watched. They were too scared to break it up.

But it was Irvin who ran with teammates who had to run laps for discipline after practice to keep them company. And when teammate Matt Patchan's mother died and he had no money to get home for the funeral, Melvin Bratton went around the locker room toting a helmet.


Players put in whatever they could. One dollar. Ten dollars. Patchan flew home. That's the way those great teams were built, the way the best college teams are and the manner Golden either hasn't been able to stitch together or these players have refused to do in his four years.

All the talk and hope as Golden and Miami players talked this week during the ACC media conference was of a team more "accountable" and bent toward better team "chemistry."

But what is the lesson from last year? They were Golden recruits. They grew up in his system. When Golden talked before his first season after taking over for Randy Shannon, he put an emphasis on one word: Finish. That meant tackles, games, seasons, everything.

Last year, they didn't finish. The core of upperclassmen lost faith. The team fell apart after the Florida State loss in November, a dividing line between older players looking to the pros and younger players frustrated at the issues.

"When the older players saw there was nothing big left to really play for in the season, they started thinking of protecting themselves and the money of the pros,'' the former player said. "You can't blame them, in a way."

Alabama coach Nick Saban was laughed at nationally for recently saying the NFL draft grades for his players affected team chemistry and motivation before their bowl game. Why was the truth so funny?

Miami's season was a testament to that. Blame the outgoing players, if you want, for the manner they didn't show up for closing, double-digit losses to Virginia and North Carolina and then to South Carolina in the bowl.

But they were just doing what good businessmen do in looking out for themselves at some point. Everything before that Florida State game contributed, too. The players didn't have great faith in the coaching, especially the complicated defensive system of Mark D'Onfrio.

"Instead of winning on athletic talent, they wanted to win on a complicated system,'' the former player said. "Then we ran a three-man front at the goal-line against Virginia, and no one understood that.''

It's a fragile idea, the one of team chemistry and confidence, especially for a team that hasn't won like Miami. They feel it was rebuilt this off-season in a manner it had to be rebuilt.

The team sounds happier and motivated. They'll need to be. Seven players were drafted in April and no Hurricane was voted on the All-ACC preseason team, meaning no one's sure of the talent.

How much do chemistry and accountability really matter? Maybe we'll find out this season.

86Cane

How much do chemistry and accountability really matter? Maybe we'll find out this season.

Posted by: SinisterCane | July 25, 2015 at 09:34 AM

To me, being a Psychology major at UM, those things mean a LOT. I do believe that emotion, motivation, desire and teamwork are more important than most people realize or acknowledge. In fact, I would go as far as to say desire and motivation are what make average players very good and good players great.

Ohio_Cane

To me, being a Psychology major at UM, those things mean a LOT. I do believe that emotion, motivation, desire and teamwork are more important than most people realize or acknowledge. In fact, I would go as far as to say desire and motivation are what make average players very good and good players great.

Posted by: 86Cane | July 25, 2015 at 10:14 AM
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Agree 100%.

Would add team chemistry to that also. Take 2 teams of equal talent, 1 team with bad chemistry and 1 team with good chemistry, the team with good chemistry will win every game between them.

TheeMackJones

" But what is the lesson from last year? They were Golden recruits ( EMPHASIS ADDED ). They grew up in his system ( Again, EMPHASIZE STATEMENT ).
When Golden talked before his first season after taking over for Randy Shannon, he put an emphasis on one word: Finish. That meant tackles, games, seasons, everything. "

Dave Hyde Sports

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Mr. Hyde SECONDS my notion regarding SENIORS and JUNIORS. Players whom were in the system for four or three years. Players whom were HANDPICKED by Golden and D'Onofrio!

No siree, Golden apologists. EIGHTY PERCENT of the blame for last season's EMBARRASSING season falls on Golden and D'Onofrio.

And Golden loyalists. U can put 20% of the blame on the players.

TheeMackJones

Isn't Golden also a Pysch major. Because if he is, then he and D'Onofrio are sure doing a pizz poor job of recruiting players. Simply because 85% of the motivational aspect is SELF-INDUCED and either 15% or 20% is from an external source, i.e. head coach, coordinator and position coach ( SEE Mickey getting in Rocky's face for motivation and what not. ).

TheeMackJones

Miami was winning consistently up to the 2005 season WITHOUT the ' wow ' factor of facilities. Chit, the Hurricanes seemed to do OK having winning seasons and championships in '80's, 90's and earlier portion of the 21st Century.

And the single main ingredient which kept the Canes winning all those decades was the Miami Factor. A keen factor which ALL head coaches kept, and built on, since Howard moved on.

Then U have two INTERLOPERS whom absolutely ERADICATE the Miami Mystique! Even Golden said he was CHANGHING the culture of Miami, Florida Hurricane football! Of course, one could say that the AD was involved with ERADICATING the Miami Factor, also.

TheeMackJones

Johnson was a good ol' boy from Arkansas, I believe. And he absolutely NEVER messed with the Miami Factor.

Erickson wasn't from South Florida, and he NEVER messed with the Miami Mystique.

Coker. The man is an OKIE from Muskogee for Zeus' sake. And he NEVER toyed with the Miami Mystique and naturally keptwinning with Davis' players. Unfortunately Coach Coker simply made too many recruiting BLUNDERS after the 2003 season and left a FALLING empire in the hands of that ONION HEAD. Whom passed on the Keys of the FALLEN Kingdom to Golden.

Unfortunately, Golden and D'Onofrio just don't want anything to do with the Miami Mystique and what not. And last season is an absolute indication of that becoming reality.

Again, in Golden's press conference he said he was going to CHANGE the CULTURE of Miami, Florida Hurricane football.

And if U can't connect the Orange and Green dots on what the statement implies and what not. Then may Zeus and Buddha have mercy on thee.

TheeMackJones

Don't get me wrong Golden fan club members or please don't misinterpret what I'm ranting and what not. Because Miami will surely continue to have winning seasons. Yet those winning seasons won't be the type Cane fandom are looking forward too.

CaneRock

LMAO! @ "Then we ran a three-man front at the goal-line against Virginia, and no one understood that.''

TheeMackJones

OK Golden loyalists, I'll compromise and say 2012 and 2013 seasons were seasons under the NCAA cloud. However, there was ENOUGH TALENT for Miami to finish with an 8-4 record in Golden's first year at Miami.

And to continue with a moot point. Last year was ALL on Golden and D'Onofrio, for all the obvious reasons Mr. Hyde and others ( Feldman, Mandel, Myerberg, for example. ) have pointed out.

TheeMackJones

Posted by: CaneRock | July 25, 2015 at 11:51 AM

And what about the goal-line stands against mighty Nebraska. Chit, that Herbie Cornhusker RB just waltzed into the endzone, because Miami WASN'T in some type of legitimate goal line defense. Heck, there were numerous twitter PHOTOS of some of the goal-line alignments the Canes were in. SMH

Lur-ker

I don't know who you direct your nonsensical "Golden loyalists" remarks to, but I believe everyone here is a "cane loyalist"

I have no loyalty for Golden, just the progra.as far as I'm concerned he's a paid employee, paid to do a job. Because of the circumstances of the last four years, it's been very difficult to separate results from environment, at least for many.

The last four games were indeed a very bad sign from last year. But it was inevitable that he would get a 5th year. Most people understand that. My position has always been to be optimistic and hope for the best and since he is our coach,to try to be positive about the ENTIRE team, as if those were MY kids playing for Golden.

To separate out people and berate them as "Golden loyalists" is not only counterproductive and adversarial, it also shows a lack of discernment and intellect on your part.

Dude on a Pale Horse

CR,

That section is the problem many of us have with this staff's strategy. It is the single biggest reason Al has been a dud.

🐜🌀


To separate out people and berate them and what not as "Golden loyalists" is not only counterproductive and adversarial and what not, it also shows a lack of discernment and intellect on your part and what not.

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 25, 2015 at 12:16 PM

Fixed it for ya, he'll understand the most important part of the post and what not. Chit EVERYONE knows that.

Lur-ker

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

LOL

Dude on a Pale Horse

That's funny Ant.

CaneRock

"All this talk about better unity and accountability – it's true. But then it's easy to say in the spring and summer."

Translation: DDSS

86Cane

Tom,

Thank U !!!

John

John Routh
Executive Director
UM Sports Hall of Fame

raizecane

If you enjoy golf, and are in the north central florida area, i am going to recommend black bear. Played it today and its a very nice course and in great shape. Red Tail is also a course I would recommend.

TonyCane

Thee Mack...I agree on the talent in year one. It was his strongest (but not most balanced team) until this year. But you do have to factor in the suspensions, as well as the usual adjustments that coaches experience in Year 1. Carroll, Stoops, and Saban all had mediocre year ones.

The Dude

^^^ how did those guys do in year 4?

30CINCO

Good thing all things were equal first 4 years for everyone. They all had to deal with the same issues.

TonyCane

Dorset and Perryman did quite well in Year 4.

Shannon's recruiting classes yielded zero first rounders, 2 second rounders, and 7 third rounders from 2010-2014 (with all of these but one coming before the 2012 season). Golden 2011 and 2012 classes have produced 2 first rounders, 1 second rounder, and 2 third rounders. They may not have produced wins on the field, but Golden's guys have proven more draft worthy to date.

TonyCane

I want to see how this season plays out. There are enough unusual extenuating circumstances to think that these four years are not the ceiling. But the excuses are gone in 2015.

CaneRock

Golden would be 20-30 if it wasn't for the likes of Duke & Dorsett...probably fired already. Those kids produced wins.

CaneRock

And Golden's 2011 team really wasn't that good. IIRC, that 2010 team had about 7-8 draft picks...Bailey,C-Mac,DVD,Hankerson,Franklin,Harris,etc..

SinisterCane

The media climate has gotten hot for Golden, he has zero margin for error

Go Canes

Posted by: SinisterCane | July 25, 2015 at 07:01 PM

Nope.

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SinisterCane

Nope.

Posted by: Go Canes | July 25, 2015 at 07:13 PM


You seem to have a inside track on what's going on, care to share you thoughts regarding All things Golden?

86Cane

Golden would be 20-30 if it wasn't for the likes of Duke & Dorsett...probably fired already. Those kids produced wins.

Posted by: CaneRock | July 25, 2015 at 06:14 PM

Another ridiculous comment. Every COACH with every TEAM has PLAYERS that produce wins.

#ThatsHowTheyWinGames

CaneRock

Goldenites...after which game can we expect ya'll to BEAT! ya'll chests like it's 2001 in dis bih!...BCC?...or FAU?

Dude on a Pale Horse

Dang, I had a post that didn't post, but take my word for it Cinco, it cut your argument to shreds and would have converted Go Canes to my view of things.

1mg of Epi

How can a HC hide rape allegations?

And like Lurker asked, "why didn't she put a charge on them"?...did the alleged victim and her parents go to Narduzzi, instead of law enforcement?

IDK, but that's why I don't like having these convos without the facts.

Posted by: CaneRock | July 24, 2015 at 03:58 PM

Federal regulations require universities to handle allegations of student sexual misconduct occurring not only on campus, but in many cases off campus as well. Rules regarding the outward and upward referral of these cases to outside law enforcement agencies are very loose, and usually left up to the school. These allegations are "adjudicated" by the same board who decide other cases of misconduct, such as cheating, and often times the perpetrator is subject to the same punishment as the guy who cheated on an exam.

. This is why it it is not uncommon for rapists to be free to continue with their education, sometimes in the same class as their victim. It also make cover ups quite easy, not to mention legal.

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