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July 21, 2015

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30CINCO

Lowest Miami has held GT-triple option in both scoring and yards is 2011. Held them to 7 pts and 211 yds.

2009 team held them to 17 pts, 228 yds

CaneRock

But besides scheme, I think you have to match their personnel, IF you have that luxury. Seems to me that our smaller & quicker line-ups did better against it.

CaneRock

Thanks CINCO, I remember us shutting em' down pretty good both years.

1mg of Epi

Go Canes
We basically pitch a shutout on the road at Va Tech and there was concern?

Lol.

Posted by: Go Canes | July 22, 2015 at 02:23 PM

Well founded concern, considering how the season ended...we went 3-7 vs power 5.

The lickers watch a game for the result. There isn't any analysis necessary. We win or we lose, then onto the next one. No second guessing. No wondering how or why. No concern for the how's ot whys. Each game, each season really, is an independent trial. For the lickers the fun is in the result, next week doesn't matter nor does last week.

The haters watch the game and want to know why X happened. Or why X didn't happen. They want reasons. They want to identify a cause and correct the cause. The fun is in the dissection of the game almost as much as it is the result.

No making judgements, just different personality types I suppose.

1mg of Epi

Posted by: 30CINCO | July 22, 2015 at 02:09 PM

Not sure, but it would be more interesting too see the correlation between ypp and alignment. Especially if we looked at multiple games.

Is your argument that they do not play off the ball?

CaneRock

One thing that gives me concern with D'Onofrio, is He seems to have a short fuse. That might be a good trait to have as a position coach, but maybe not so much as a DC.

TheeMackJones

TCU, Baylor doing more with less

" Baylor and TCU both ranked in the top 6 of the final College Football Playoff rankings, despite neither having a single top-20 recruiting class in the last 5 years. Baylor's best ranking was 22nd in 2014 and TCU's best was 37th in 2015. " ESPN.com
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On the other hand. Under Golden, Miami has had THREE Top 12 recruiting classes ( One class was ranked NO. 9, I believe. ) and the Hurricane's finish 6-7 in Golden's FOURTH season. SMH

Oh. One more thing to ponder. In Golden's fourth season, the Hurricanes have the LONGEST LOSING streak ( 4 games ) since the 1976 campaign. Go figure. Chit, even that Onion Head never had that many losses in consecutive weeks.

30CINCO

Not sure, but it would be more interesting too see the correlation between ypp and alignment. Especially if we looked at multiple games.

Is your argument that they do not play off the ball?
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 22, 2015 at 02:45 PM
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What do you take into account as "alignment"? Is it corners pressing vs zone? Is it 3 rushers vs 4+? Is it the tackles running a 2 gap vs 1 gap? Is it whether or not a LB or safety blitz? Can be many combinations of all, in one play.

FYI - During the second half (31-62), we blitzed a LB or safety 16 of the 31 times, so roughly 51%. While in the first half, it was 18 out of 31 times, or 58% So in reality, it was almost the same for both.

Zero argument that we play or dont play off the ball from me. I don't say "all we do is this, or all we do is that".

I BET its more interesting to see a correlation of something else, maybe that will fit the agenda.

1mg of Epi

Zero argument that we play or dont play off the ball from me. I don't say "all we do is this, or all we do is that".

I BET its more interesting to see a correlation of something else, maybe that will fit the agenda.

Posted by: 30CINCO | July 22, 2015 at 03:08 PM

I never said "all this" or "all that". Did you see me post that somewhere? The fact that I'm comparing 1st vs 2nd halves should've made that point clear.

If we're talking about alignments, then yes, it would be interesting to see specifically what results a defense yields.

58% of plays are in a prevent? No. That doesn't sound like a good idea.

Why so testy? We're talking about a child's game. Relax.

1mg of Epi

Let me rephrase that... Against a team that is moving the ball on ground,with an inept QB under center, where would you align the backs?

You said we BLITZED 58% of the time. That's good. We all like a well timed blitz. But that doesn't answer the question.

1mg of Epi

By the way Go Canes, the question O asked was the same question the anonymous player said was asked.

Go Canes

Posted by: TheeMackJones | July 22, 2015 at 03:07 PM

TCU also gave up 33,58,27,30 and 30 in their WINS.

What would our record have been had we scored the kind of points they did in those games?

In five of our losses we scored 13, 17, 13, 23 and 21, not to mention 3 points in the second half of the FSU.

But forget about that. Quick, focus on the way we lined up against GT, that tells the REAL picture!

thirstybuzzardcane

The bottom line is we lost 7 games last year, and the coaches didn't change a damn thing!! The best game I've seen this defense play was the Florida game in 2013....The D was flying around!!!

30CINCO

AWWW LAWWD! I COULD copy and paste what YOU said. But based on recent conversations, I'm pretty sure some sort of "I know that's what I said, but what I really meant was blah blah blah" would follow.

Talbout lets talk about facts, then not understand the facts presented ,LOL. Not the first, I'm sure it wont be the last.

It's all good buddy.

Canes football is 6 weekends away! Cant wait to check out the new Sunlife! Go Canes!

1mg of Epi

First off GC, you keep bringing that play up. Maybe stop mentioning it. But if you do wanna keep discussing it how about reading the comments answer in why that one play was mentioned.

Second, who said the offense was acceptable? Coley did a poor job, receivers did a poor job, the QB was a freshman and the oline underperformed way too often.

If you like the defense last year if be interested to know why? Besides comparing the stats to historically bad performances the last couple years. Hyperventilating over O is just more of the smoke screens and distractions.

30CINCO

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1mg of Epi


Talbout lets talk about facts, then not understand the facts presented ,LOL. Not the first, I'm sure it wont be the last.
It's all good buddy.
Canes football is 6 weekends away! Cant wait to check out the new Sunlife! Go Canes!

Posted by: 30CINCO | July 22, 2015 at 03:39 PM

There ya go... Throw out an insult then run away from the conversation. Pathetic.

So let's recap... I give an opinion. U tell me I'm wrong. I ask what your opinion is. You tell me you have no opinion, throw an insult my way and leave.

Typical. Weak. Lame.

30CINCO

Dont be sensative, it was'nt meant as an insult, just an observation.

Remember, it's just a game....relax.

CaneRock

Epi...3-17 when losing at the half, Big O nailed it. But let's move forward...LMAO!

1mg of Epi

Dont be sensative, it was'nt meant as an insult, just an observation.

Remember, it's just a game....relax.
Posted by: 30CINCO | July 22, 2015 at 03:56 PM

I'm sorry bro... I think my tone came across wrong. You know how it is communicating thru text. You're unable to pick up the amusement in my "voice".

Whenever u can string together a few sentences re: why you're happy with this D I would love to read it. I'm sure I would learn a thing or 2.

1mg of Epi

CaneRock
Epi...3-17 when losing at the half, Big O nailed it. But let's move forward...LMAO!

Posted by: CaneRock | July 22, 2015 at 03:57 PM

Cmon rock. You've gone too far.

A lot of those games were at night, in prime time, with the whole nation watching.

30CINCO

How about this....I am happy with last years D's ability to beat VT convincingly at their house. I am happy with last year's D's ability to take the ball away from VT 4 times last year at their house. I'll even throw you a bonus, I am happy with last years D's ability to beat the Turds in 2013.

Is that ok with you? You keeping up? I'm happy to teach whenever possible.

30CINCO

And ppfffsssttt....If we blitzed 58% of the time, that means 42% was not a blitz. 100%-58% = 42%. 42% is not the majority.

Just an FYI in case you see something similar in the future. Like I said, happy to teach whenever possible.

1mg of Epi

Just an FYI in case you see something similar in the future. Like I said, happy to teach whenever possible.

Posted by: 30CINCO | July 22, 2015 at 04:21 PM

Yes I understand that u tried to bait me into saying the D was playing in the end zone 85% of the time so you could say "Gotcha!! They Blitzed 60% of the time!". I'm sorry I didn't step into your diabolical trap! It would've been sweet, that's for sure!

So let me axe you a question... If the LB blitzes, does that mean the backs will by default slide into a tight man?

1mg of Epi

Sorry about that guys... "Slide into a tight man" ugh that was wrong

1mg of Epi

How about this....I am happy with last years D's ability to beat VT convincingly at their house. I am happy with last year's D's ability to take the ball away from VT 4 times last year at their house. I'll even throw you a bonus, I am happy with last years D's ability to beat the Turds in 2013.

Is that ok with you? You keeping up? I'm happy to teach whenever possible.

Posted by: 30CINCO | July 22, 2015 at 04:15 PM

Bro!! I totes agree! I also like it when the hurricane play good!!! See that , we're building bridges!!!

And thank you! I think I'm keeping up! But I do have a question. I'm sorry hopefully u can answer.... So, like, what is the difference between the instances above, and say a game where they don't look good?

30CINCO

Darnit! You read my mind, you sly devil you!

If the LB blitzes, lots of things can happen. You can play cover 3, the corners can cover man or they can can be in a zone, or a combination of the 2. Meaning one corner can play man while the other is in a zone. You can even drop a DT into coverage while blitzing a LB.

Was that too much? ...but wait. Do you think dropping a DT into coverage is ok? Think anyone else does this "crazy" stunt?

1mg of Epi

Was that too much? ...but wait. Do you think dropping a DT into coverage is ok? Think anyone else does this "crazy" stunt?

Posted by: 30CINCO | Ju

Wait hold up!!!!!! Slow down!!!! In trying to keep up!!

Ok let me catch my breath....

Ok. Sorry. So, if the blintzes that they do so much. Like almost all the time, don't impact the depth, man vs zone, or gap assignments, then how does the fact that they do the blintz so often mean that they play soft, tight, man, zone or anything else?

Honestly friend, thank you. so. I guess my question is why did you say that the blintz volume made me wrong regarding how I saw the 1st vs 2nd half? I think I don't understand!
Can you help me??

30CINCO

Can you help me??

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 22, 2015 at 04:45 PM
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I sure can!!!

You see, usually, and I could be wrong, when a person says a "soft zone hybrid prevent" is always ran because it is a philosophy , that would be the exact opposite of a blitzing play. So if one says "soft zone hybrid prevent" was happening in the second half, then compared to the 1st half, a simple arithmitic formula displaying the similarites in a blitz package was presented in order to illustrate that is not that case, and your "opinion" is wrong, based on actual facts.

1mg of Epi

But If the person uses the term "prevent" to describe the defenders keeping the ball in front of them, thus allowing a certain number of yards before touching the receiver; and then uses the term "hybrid" to indicate it's not a true prevent... Well then wouldn't that be acceptable?

I mean, u did just teach me that the blitz and defending the pass loosely aren't mutually exclusive? I think u did? Gosh I'm confused.

But if the blitz alone doesn't dictate anything else, and the term hybrid is used.. Oh jeez I need more words

1mg of Epi

Oh oh wait!! I got it!! So you're saying that the hurricanes play an attacking, up the field style of defense!!!!

That's it! Right?

Thank you so so much!!

Today is a great day!! I learned a whole whole lot!!! AND you I made a friend!!!!!

30CINCO

I'm pretty sure some sort of "I know that's what I said, but what I really meant was blah blah blah" would follow.

Posted by: 30CINCO | July 22, 2015 at 03:39 PM
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Called it!!!!

1mg of Epi

Now I'm confused! So you're not saying they play an attacking defense? That would mean they play soft, which you said they don't. I think.

Maybe I'm not keeping up so good.

1mg of Epi

30CINCO
I'm pretty sure some sort of "I know that's what I said, but what I really meant was blah blah blah" would follow.

Posted by: 30CINCO | July 22, 2015 at 03:39 PM
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Called it!!!!

Posted by: 30CINCO | July 22, 2015 at 05:25 PM

Now you're being mean again! I thought we were friends. I'm not talking about what I said, I'm asking what you said. Oh well.

Lur-ker

Fair enough Lurker, and my apologies for calling you what I called you. Damn Lurker bout' to have a HEAT STROKE! LMAO!

Posted by: CaneRock | July 21, 2015 at 10:20 PM

CR - even though I don't agree with some of your posts, I bear you no personal grudge. Any man that cares as much as you do about their kids is rock solid. While we may continue to disagree, never take it as a sign of disrespect or even dislike. I can strongly dislike the opinion or comment without hating the man.

Lur-ker

epi might want to stumble over to the ref for a standing ten count. It's not even fair. LOL

USAFCane

" Baylor and TCU both ranked in the top 6 of the final College Football Playoff rankings, despite neither having a single top-20 recruiting class in the last 5 years. Baylor's best ranking was 22nd in 2014 and TCU's best was 37th in 2015. " ESPN.com
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Talent wise we should be close to the best, coaching is holding us back.

1mg of Epi

Lur-ker
epi might want to stumble over to the ref for a standing ten count. It's not even fair. LOL

Posted by: Lur-ker | July 22, 2015 at 06:17 PM
yup. Because as we ascertained, blitzing means we play close to the line. got it.

Dude on a Pale Horse

From Idaho, through Wyoming, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana and Ohio to stay a month, now back through Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, South Dakota (Mount Rushmore) then Wyoming and FINALLY home sweet home! So great to be home.

86Cane

Winning cures all

Posted by: SinisterCane | July 22, 2015 at 09:26 AM

There IT is right there.

86Cane

Should've been 6 LBs.

Skai Moore in two years at USC:

149 (82 Solo) Tackles
7 INTs

Posted by: CaneRock | July 22, 2015 at 09:33 AM

Followed by the DUMBEST comment in a long time.

86Cane

Please, look at the plays that preceded the play in question...Denzel was 7-8 yards off the ball most of the plays, AND the Center was Uncovered. Just DUMB if you're playing a team where you have to take away the fullback first.

Posted by: CaneRock | July 22, 2015 at 01:24 PM

This is true.

86Cane

A lot of those games were at night, in prime time, with the whole nation watching.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | July 22, 2015 at 04:11 PM

Well yeah, and the grass was too high and the moon was too bright and the wind, well you know what the damn wind does, right?

1mg of Epi

The damn wind. It sucks.

86Cane

No GRAVITY sucks.

The WIND blows!

1mg of Epi

Damnit!!! I knew it was one of those!

1mg of Epi


Talent wise we should be close to the best, coaching is holding us back.

Posted by: USAFCane | July 22, 2015 at 06:24 PM

There are problems everywhere from administration down to players, but nothing will change until we get new staff.

30CINCO

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Sinistercane

^^^^
10-2

30CINCO

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