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October 28, 2015

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Go Canes

Gonna be a wild 45 days.

toledocane

Dos

Dude on a Pale Horse

Tres.

86Cane

Hester

30CINCO

CINCO!

Dude on a Pale Horse

SOUP,

Are you looking for one reason that ties them all together or their individual issues?

86Cane

Dude...both, but more individual issues than the ties to all if there are any. I think they all failed for different reasons, although there MAY be a common thread? I'd like to hear about that too.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: The Dude | October 28, 2015 at 10:51 AM

They had no choice after that debacle. They have season ticket renewals and donations to think about, plus you can't be contacting agents and setting up your interview processes while the guy is still coaching.

How bad would they look if that leaked out while he was still here.

Posted by: Go Canes | October 28, 2015 at 11:04 AM

It seems like they did have a choice though, at least Blake thought there was a choice, because he was chosing to keep him on, presumably because of the buyout. So then the BoT comes in and says f*ck that, Al's fired. My guess is, things will happen next week.

WWIN

No thanks to that dude in a big way.

Posted by: Go Canes | October 28, 2015 at 10:28 AM

Yeah I definitely agree!!!

#BBB
#VoteButchDavis2015

Go Canes

Was thinking, the next 45 days will also show if Butch is a real commodity or a coach who's no longer a coaching option.

There's already eight D1 openings, with maybe another half dozen or more opening up at season's end.

He's likely going to know his chances here sooner than later. So if it doesn't happen here, it will be interesting to see where his name comes up.

SinisterCane

FIRE BLAKE JAMES

Lurker

My guess is, things will happen next week.

Posted by: The Dude | October 28, 2015 at 11:12 AM

It won't. It can't. You'll see next week.

orange 'n green in the vein

Irrelevant.
Time for a new header image.

(Wait for it CGNC . . .)

Go Canes

Posted by: The Dude | October 28, 2015 at 11:12 AM

I think the plan was to give him the season. That all changed after that blowout.

I see virtually no scenario in which anything happens before the end of the season.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: 86Cane | October 28, 2015 at 11:09 AM

I'm going to think about the common traits one and get back to you. To me that's a tough one.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Go Canes | October 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM

Didn't Blake say right after the blowout they'd wait?

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Lurker | October 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM

I'm not necessarily saying there will be a hire next week.

UMike

Irrelevant.
Time for a new header image.

(Wait for it CGNC . . .)

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | October 28, 2015 at 11:18 AM

I got it...might be a couple days though. Would like to have a face to put...guess I can just use players lol

RCCF

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UMike

I see virtually no scenario in which anything happens before the end of the season.

Posted by: Go Canes | October 28, 2015 at 11:21 AM

I think you thought the same about him being fired during the season lol

Go Canes

That's true UMike but don't think anyone could see 58-0 coming.

He would have survived a 42-10 game, but that loss was too much for them to not take action on.

Dude on a Pale Horse

What's the most important trait for the new coach?

Recruiting?

Ability to bring in top assistants?

A offensive or defensive guru?

Development of players?

Game management?

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Go Canes | October 28, 2015 at 11:30 AM

Really? Lots and lots of people saw an absolute thumping coming. In fact only a few people couldn't.

Go Canes

Posted by: The Dude | October 28, 2015 at 11:25 AM

Yes but my understanding is he had to wait to meet with key members of the BOT before pulling the trigger.

IMO he won't be making the decision making of this next hire but he'll manage the process put forth to him by those same trustees.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Go Canes | October 28, 2015 at 11:34 AM

I would wager that your opinion is correct.

Go Canes

Posted by: The Dude | October 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM

There's about a million miles between a thumping and that debacle.

Regardless, I was wrong and he's gone.

Still think this thing will be handled methodically and will follow the same process other schools currently doing.

Haven't seen or heard a word about either USC talking to anyone yet. My guess is because their targets are all currently coaching.

Dude on a Pale Horse

"Only person [from the Miami family tree] I've talked to was Ken Dorsey," Reed told Eisen. "Me and Dorsey have talked a great bit about coaching together, but neither one of us want to be the head coach. We argued that. I know other guys would chime in and definitely want to be a part of it in some way, help out."

86Cane

Time for a new header image.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | October 28, 2015 at 11:18 AM

That's on UMike, but as he stated, he's got this, so we are covered. Maybe a ST#26 pic?

Ohio_Cane

What's the most important trait for the new coach?

Recruiting?

Ability to bring in top assistants?

A offensive or defensive guru?

Development of players?

Game management?

Posted by: The Dude | October 28, 2015 at 11:31 AM
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All of the above would be lovely.

86Cane

Really? Lots and lots of people saw an absolute thumping coming. In fact only a few people couldn't.

Posted by: The Dude | October 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM

That is not true. Stop it.

Losing badly maybe, losing absolutly yes, 58-0 NOBODY.

Ohio_Cane

"Only person [from the Miami family tree] I've talked to was Ken Dorsey," Reed told Eisen. "Me and Dorsey have talked a great bit about coaching together, but neither one of us want to be the head coach. We argued that. I know other guys would chime in and definitely want to be a part of it in some way, help out."

Posted by: The Dude | October 28, 2015 at 11:49 AM
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From his mouth to God's ears.

Dorsey coaching QB's and Reed coaching DB's would be awesome

CaneRock

"He would've survived a 42-10 game"?

..............BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA!

Stop it.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 28, 2015 at 11:50 AM

Saban aint coming O_C. Lol.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: 86Cane | October 28, 2015 at 11:52 AM

Okay, okay. 58-3.

MLAlumni1970

Going to the Doctor who did my cataract surgery yesterday. Don't fret, my neighbor is driving me. Can barely see up close,so I didn't try to read the other messages from last night.
Don't know much, but I don't trust that Blake guy. Seems a control guy who has now been put in his place. I hope SMARTER heads, both on the BOT, and others, who have some juice,make the right choice. I want Butch, since he is clean at NC. This should be a package, complete with the Assistants etc. before it is released.
But, of course, we all would like to know as it preceeds, like a fly on the wall.
SOME REALLY SMART CANESPACERS OUT THERE.
Ignore my typo's.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | October 28, 2015 at 11:53 AM

No doubt in my mind about KD11. A future elite coach. Ed still probably needs a little experience, but I'll be damned if his players don't BRING IT every GD day.

WWIN

Posted by: CaneRock | October 28, 2015 at 09:37 AM

I thought we wuz done wit hating since Golden got canned??? Lol

Laquinton

I would love to see Ken come back, but I can't see him leaving a NFL qb coach job to this.. Reed is different, while the name and being one of the best safeties ever in the league is awesome he hasnt coached ever. While I am very sure he's better than Paul Williams I would rather have Rumph. Reed can break down film like no other.

1mg of Epi

Yes but my understanding is he had to wait to meet with key members of the BOT before pulling the trigger.

IMO he won't be making the decision making of this next hire but he'll manage the process put forth to him by those same trustees.

Posted by: Go Canes | October 28, 2015 at 11:34 AM

They were absolutely planning on him finishing the season. I have a feeling a lot of people were surprised he didn't.

They need a stronger AD.

CaneRock

I think they all failed for different reasons, although there MAY be a common thread?

Posted by: 86Cane | October 28, 2015 at 11:09 AM

Coker knew the offensive X & Os, but once the recruiting machine stopped, He couldn't get the Jimmies & Joes, and more importantly, He couldn't motivate.

Shannon knew the defensive Xs & Os, but He couldn't hire a good OC to save His life, also failed to get the Jimmies & Joes towards the end of His tenure, and more importantly, couldn't motivate.

Golden couldn't motivate, didn't know the Xs & Os, =s 58-0, =s the WORSE HC to EVER come through UM.

j.w.

Most of you are living in the past as the landscape of college football has changed. Miami will NEVER be the dominate team we were back in the 80's and 90's. Now i know that stung some of you but its the truth.

Posted by: raizecane | October 27, 2015 at 07:22 PM
Raize, I mean absolutely no offense with this, but I've seen similar statements for 20 years or more. Pittsburgh Steelers will be the last dynasty because of free agency, until the Patriots came along and did it better. And the Steelers had a nice run as well. USC won't be the same because the game has changed since Robinson and McKay retired. Until Pete Carroll came along and did it better. Alabama won't be the same because nobody can dominate like Bear Bryant did, Stallings got caught cheating proving they can't pay players like they used to. Then Saban came and they're better than ever (not sure about the paying, lol!).
Sentiment that we'll never get back, nothing can be recreated, is played. We're still Miami. The Recruits are still in our local area. Despite the new locker rooms and stadiums dotting the country, most good recruits want the same thing they always wanted, to play in the NFL and win titles. The right guy at UM can accomplish everything we want.

USAFCane


Lots of fun options out there, and I can convince myself to be happy about almost any of them but Cristobal.

Posted by: SinisterCane | October 28, 2015 at 10:14 AM

Good break down but doesn't mention Smart. Pretty damning towards christobal. Herman and Fuentes are definitely on my list. Neither are just the hot coach of the moment IMO.

USAFCane

Playing devil's advocate here but is the fund set up for burns NCAA legal? school set it up so I assume it is but what if known boosters donate? how is that managed?

UMike

Yes, it is legal under the "misc benefits" or something. Reynolds mention it, but yes it is.

Mark from Atlanta

Canes brothers. ...a new Era approaches...in the interim. ..we got to support positively the remaining season! Can we truly see the US against the world mentality this team and fan base needs to see? Failure now, would only strengthen the outsider ' s opinions. ...they all say no facilities, no stadium. ..etc...dickhead finebaum is jumping on the Canes hate bandwagon. ...f him and f the rest of ESPN,etc....it's a Canes thing...we understand. ...those haters wouldn't and Don't want to grasp! There is no where to go but up at this point. God bless you and Go Canes! ! ! ------- coaches? As stated above. ..we need a coach who doesn't give 2 shizat about the facilities stadium. ....he won't need it to win...he after all embraces the culture and the challenge! Amen.

MLAlumni1970

RaizeCane---Enough of that. We are battered and bruised, with the loss, firing and death, but we are stll the U. It may take a few years, but the U keeps pluggin along.
Funny, not really,but my boyfriend says the same thing about the U. Small school, not a lot of bucks, focuses on academics, etc. and he says football is over and will be phased out!
Say it ain't so SOUP. You have the inside scoop. We are small etc. but sports is the blood of the University of Miami.
I think I need a new boyfriend. That is blasphemis talk.
Time to take a pain pill.

toledocane


I think I need a new boyfriend. That is blasphemis talk.
Time to take a pain pill.

Posted by: MLAlumni1970 | October 28, 2015 at 12:36 PM

LOL!!!

Dude on a Pale Horse

"Up until this year Butch was always met with 'Yeah, he's not going to come back,'" the donor said. "But now Butch is the only person whose name I've heard in hypotheticals. Last year it was [Mario] Cristobal. I don't know if it's the new president, but I think they're willing to consider Butch now."

^^^ This is why I think they moved. We'll see.

Dude on a Pale Horse

If Miami doesn't want Butch, they better not interview him. Because he'll walk out of that room hired.

USAFCane

Larry Coker should never have been a HC as evidenced by his job right now. Wouldn't be surprised if he is let go by usta. With that said, he was better than the other two. Once his teams couldn't out talent the opposition and he got lazy in recruiting the slide was unstoppable. terrible hire, had they got a good coach then, who knows where we'd be now.

Shannon never should have been a hc. the fact his first job was hc at Miami when you look back is comical. they went cheap and put the final nail in the coffin. another who has never been near a big time job since.

if Shannon was the final nail, golden was the the burial of the program. another cheap hire that hoodwinked the school with his gift of gab and folder. he had everyone fooled bar a few on canespace. the scandal only prolonged his stay. his approach was almost anti Miami which is why the new coach might have to be the polar opposite. can this silver tongued coach fool another program? he might just do it on Miami ties and the scandal. would not be surprised to see him land one of the upcoming carosel jobs opening up.

3 terrible hires that killed the program, over a decade of not mattering.

school has to hit a home run this time. plenty of talent out there. the improvement will be exponential.

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