Lost in the hooplah of who the Hurricanes got is an important fact...one that bears out in most college football programs. The fact that many of these players will not be here three years from now.
And some will not even make it one year.
Some facts from previous Miami Hurricanes recruiting classes:
2002 Class (22): 01*****,14****,06***,01**
Did not qualify: 4
Out after one season: 1
Out after two seasons: 2
2003 Class (25): 04*****,10****,10***,01**
Did not qualify: 2 (1 qualified in 2004)
Out after one season: -
Out after two seasons: 2
2004 Class (27): 03*****,09****,09***,06**
Did not qualify: 2
Out after one season: 2
Out after two seasons: 4
2005 Class (17): 02*****,11****,03***,01**
Did not qualify: 1 (qualified following year)
Out after one season: -
Out after two seasons: -
2006 Class (20): 00*****,10****,07***,03**
Did not qualify/play: 2 (Stegall went MLB)
Out after one season: 3
Out after two seasons: -
2007 Class (18): 01*****,07****,08***,02**
Did not qualify: -
Out after one season: 1
Out after two seasons: 5
2008 Class (32): 02*****,14****,08***,08**
Did not qualify: -
Out after one season: 7
Out after two seasons: 2
2009 Class (19): 01*****,09****,08***,01**
Did not qualify: 1
Out after one season: 1
Out after two seasons: 1
2010 Class (29): 01*****,06****,18***,04**
Did not qualify: -
Out after one season: 6
Out after two seasons: 4
2011 Class (19): 00*****,02****,13***,01**,03no*
Did not qualify: 3 (1 qualified following year)
Out after one season: -
Out after two seasons: 6
2012 Class (33): 02*****,08****,23***,00**
Did not qualify: 1
Out after one season: 10
Out after two seasons: 4
2013 Class (19): 00*****,09****,08***,02**
Did not qualify: 3
Out after one season: 2
Out after two seasons: 1
2014 Class (28): 01*****,08****,17***,01**,01no*
Did not qualify: -
Out after one season: 1
Out after two seasons: 3
2015 Class (19): 00*****,07****,12***,00**
2016 Class (18): 00*****,07****,10***,01**
So from 2002 - 2014, we thus have the following numbers and percentages:
Total Players: 308
Failed to Qualify/Never Played: 14
Played only one season: 35
Played only two seasons: 32
Thus, between 2002 and 2013 an average of 27% of committed athletes played two or less seasons for the Canes. Bottom line, there is a lot of churn and burn in college football each season.
Nemo is in the house.
Posted by: nemo2002 | February 06, 2016 at 07:23 AM
Numero dos!!!!!
Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | February 06, 2016 at 07:31 AM
Those investigation years, particularly that 2012 class were absolute killers.
Not a coincidence imo the number of non contributors dropped dramatically after we were able to recruit without the weight of potential sanctions hanging over us.
Posted by: Go Canes! | February 06, 2016 at 07:33 AM
Great post Tony Cane! The 2012 class was the Duke Johnson class, with a couple of 5 stars and ranked in the top 10 nationally. 33 recruits, and 15 gone after two years. The highest ranked recruiting class under Golden lost nearly half the class after 2 years. I have never heard of such attrition in the Canes program, or any college football program, ever. Some attrition is natural, but the 2012 class attrition is staggering. That was a clear sign that Golden was running a dysfunctional program.
That is probably one of the most important contributors to his demise as Canes head coach (aside from strenght and conditioning, defensive scheme, special teams, game day management, play calling, etc.,.). You cannot consistently win at Miami when half of your class never gets developed or contributes. Amazing facts.
Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | February 06, 2016 at 08:20 AM
The current recruiting class for 2016 is 18. I would guess that since Richt did weed out a lot of recruits that didn't belong, I expect very low attrition with this class.
Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | February 06, 2016 at 08:29 AM
Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | February 06, 2016 at 08:20 AM
LOL. If you are going to list the demise of AG, it needs tobe in an outlined, bulleted form :)
Posted by: CGNC | February 06, 2016 at 08:40 AM
Vidal back to Turin?
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | February 06, 2016 at 09:11 AM
Golden wore turnstiles out. This is reflection of a average evaluator of talent or should I say beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. He never got his eyes checked.
Posted by: Herbieibis | February 06, 2016 at 09:37 AM
Totally off topic but...damn!
This season, Steph Curry is shooting 60.4% on shots from 28+ feet.
The NBA average from 3 feet or closer is 59.5%.
Posted by: Go Canes! | February 06, 2016 at 09:50 AM
Golden still out recruited the Coastal, couldnt win because he was more loyal to his employees than he was to results and winning. He wasnt willing to entertain the idea that changes were required, I think because he saw himself as being smarter than everyone. He really SHOULD have been successful, just like MR should be. MR has made some questionable hires, Im curious to see what happens if one or two of these guys dont pan out.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | February 06, 2016 at 09:55 AM
Posted by: Go Canes! | February 06, 2016 at 09:50 AM
A Bulls-like run... look it up, I called it.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | February 06, 2016 at 09:56 AM
Happy belated WW.....
Posted by: raizecane | February 06, 2016 at 10:16 AM
It is a must to reduce the number of players who are non contributors. We have had way too many bust the past ten years.
Posted by: Canesteeler | February 06, 2016 at 10:19 AM
I think scheme and W/Ls had a bigger impact on recruiting during AGs tenure than the cloud.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | February 06, 2016 at 11:03 AM
Rubber meets road in October my Canes brothers, we'll know more after that stretch of competition. And big UPs! On the article. .....God bless you and Go Canes!
Posted by: Mark from Atlanta | February 06, 2016 at 11:24 AM
More transfers out from the 2012 collection of goldhen girls to the 2014 set of losers will be continued to be welcome.
Any space freed up not used by early entry recruits in 2017 can be safely parlayed into more of the same in the 2018 solar year but can continue to count toward 2017's signing class.
Blob is an eccercise of useless navel gaseing to chronicling a feature according to the TS/GD's of sock-puppetry as opposed to bug in the pyrite ROE at Miami.
2017 signing day can't land smarks fast enough...
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | February 06, 2016 at 11:42 AM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c
Posted by: Go Canes! | February 06, 2016 at 11:53 AM
Happy Birthday Willie!!
Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | February 06, 2016 at 01:21 AM
Thanks Sota!
Posted by: WWIN | February 06, 2016 at 11:59 AM
Happy bday to my agent.
Posted by: The Dude | February 06, 2016 at 03:56 AM
Thanks TD!
Posted by: WWIN | February 06, 2016 at 12:00 PM
Happy belated WW.....
Posted by: raizecane | February 06, 2016 at 10:16 AM
Thanks Raize!
Posted by: WWIN | February 06, 2016 at 12:01 PM
Vidal back to Turin?
Posted by: The Dude | February 06, 2016 at 09:11 AM
Not before the end of the season, transfer period ended last weak both in the Bundesliga and Serie A.
In the summer, however, there will be a lot of turnover in Munich with Guardiola leaving for ManCity and Ancellotti taking the reins.
I wouldn't bite on the Vidal back to Turin rumour just yet, as long as the only source is from Chile..
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 06, 2016 at 12:05 PM
@Dude:
BTW, if I may ask: What's your connection to Juve - Italian relatives? Some moment of revelation back in the day?
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 06, 2016 at 12:07 PM
LOL. If you are going to list the demise of AG, it needs tobe in an outlined, bulleted form :)
Posted by: CGNC | February 06, 2016 at 08:40 AM
U got that right? I thought everybody knew this! It's like 15 minutes can save U...well U know the rest.
Posted by: 58 Straight | February 06, 2016 at 12:43 PM
It's like 15 minutes can save U...well U know the rest.
Posted by: 58 Straight | February 06, 2016 at 12:43 PM
That should read: Did you know that 15 minutes of reading through Golden's binder can cost you 50% of your football knowledge?
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 06, 2016 at 01:33 PM
@Dude:
BTW, if I may ask: What's your connection to Juve - Italian relatives? Some moment of revelation back in the day?
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 06, 2016 at 12:07 PM
Love the jerseys the first time I ever saw them (Jeep man). Then saw the defense w/ Cheilini, brutal... love their style, been hooked since. Like seriously within the last year.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | February 06, 2016 at 01:40 PM
Juve needs Vidal whenever they can get him. Marchisio, Pogba (if he stays), Vidal (if he comes back), Cuadrado, Khedira... not too shabby. The D is nasty, the GK is a legend and Dybala is becoming a world class scorer. Good things.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | February 06, 2016 at 01:45 PM
If Juve want to steal one from Bayern, I'd say they should go after Kingsley Coman. He's a younger Vidal with a mad skillset, yet only 19 years old.
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 06, 2016 at 02:25 PM
Golden wore turnstiles out. This is reflection of a average evaluator of talent or should I say beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. He never got his eyes checked.
Posted by: Herbieibis | February 06, 2016 at 09:37 AM
LOL! I laughed out loud at that Herbie
Posted by: CGNC | February 06, 2016 at 03:50 PM
Florida Gators quarterback Treon Harris will change positions and serve as a wide receiver next season, Gridiron Now reports.
http://www.si.com/college-football/2016/02/05/florida-gators-treon-harris-quarterback-wide-receiver
Chose the Gators over the Canes because he wanted to play QB. Didn't work out so well, it seems.
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 06, 2016 at 04:02 PM
Ohio... isn't it your birthday today?
Posted by: WWIN | February 06, 2016 at 04:56 PM
steal one from Bayern, I'd say they should go after Kingsley Coman. He's a younger Vidal with a mad skillset, yet only 19 years old.
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 06, 2016 at 02:25 PM
19? Isnt that a little old? Don't people stop playing soccer at 9?
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | February 06, 2016 at 05:03 PM
An islander raised on cricket could see Treon wouldn't be a qb, now if Meyer had him, he would beast. Hello y'all.
Posted by: go2du | February 06, 2016 at 05:35 PM
The current recruiting class for 2016 is 18. I would guess that since Richt did weed out a lot of recruits that didn't belong, I expect very low attrition with this class.
Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | February 06, 2016 at 08:29 AM
Yes, I think that the norm will be closer to what we saw prior to 2007.
Posted by: TonyCane | February 06, 2016 at 06:49 PM
An islander raised on cricket could see Treon wouldn't be a qb, now if Meyer had him, he would beast. Hello y'all.
Posted by: go2du | February 06, 2016 at 05:35 P
only in college, other than carnell(and that's a stretch) none of the osu guys are nlf qbs imo.
, none of of the
Posted by: USAFCane | February 06, 2016 at 07:39 PM
When you have an athlete like Treon Harris, he is worth the shot at QB to get him on your team and to get an inroad into Booker T. If it dont work (which it didnt) fine, but you gave him a shot there and now he can help you in other areas.
Posted by: UMike | February 06, 2016 at 07:52 PM
There is also a bill in the Florida legislature to allow players to transfer freely, with very few restrictions. This could rrevolutionize sports in Florida high school football.
Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | February 06, 2016 at 08:40 PM
Treon will be joined at WR by that QB from Heritage that went to Ohio State.
Posted by: Go Canes! | February 06, 2016 at 08:56 PM
When was the last time the turds trotted out a decent offense? Ten years ago?
Posted by: Lur-ker | February 06, 2016 at 09:25 PM
Coach Herman from Houston wanted to pattern his recruiting efforts, like miami did in the 80's by fencing off the Houston area. Said he admired the u back in the day.
Posted by: Herbieibis | February 06, 2016 at 10:12 PM
Barry:
### At Georgia, Mark Richt never had a recruiting class rated lower than 15th by Rivals.com; 11 were in the top 10. His first UM class was ranked 22nd.
UM is still stinging from the loss of cornerback Tyler Byrd, who flipped to Tennessee on the eve of National Signing Day, and an inability to land several other cornerback targets. Byrd was rated the nation’s 35th-best recruit by ESPN, leaving quarterback Jack Allison (No. 68) as UM’s highest-rated 2016 recruit.
Cornerbacks coach Mike Rumph said Byrd “felt the vibe better at Tennessee. He liked the atmosphere at the school. He made the decision like a man. He talked to me and told me how he felt. You can’t look down on that. You’ve got to let a kid be a person he wants to be. I can’t be upset with that. He’s going to have a bright future at Tennessee. He’s one of the first kids I recruited. I just wish him the best.”
Rumph said this UM staff “learned a lot through this [recruiting] process --– some good, some bad. You’ve got to be on top of everything or you’re going to be left behind. You’ve got to be really innovative as a staff. Through every loss, there’s a lesson learned of what we have to do moving forward. I’m excited about 2017, having a full year to recruit kids and getting back to the team I know we can be…. This city won’t allow you to be mediocre.”
### We're told UM plans to look for cornerback and receiver transfers who are eligible to play immediately (meaning graduate transfers) because of shaky depth at both positions.
UM has eight receivers on scholarship (including three signed last week who haven't yet enrolled) and six scholarship cornerbacks (including freshman summer arrival Malek Young). Safety Jaquan Johnson also could play corner if needed, coaches say.
Posted by: Go Canes! | February 06, 2016 at 10:15 PM
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 06, 2016 at 02:25 PM
From what I understand, Koman isnt in Turin because he didnt want to be there.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | February 06, 2016 at 10:27 PM
Posted by: The Dude | February 06, 2016 at 10:27 PM
That could change, though, with the total makeover Munich are facing in the summer and the seemingly bright future for Juve.
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 07, 2016 at 07:03 AM
Think we've entered the Canespace dead period.
Posted by: Go Canes! | February 07, 2016 at 07:23 AM
Posted by: Go Canes! | February 07, 2016 at 07:23 AM
It's never too late to join the soccer discussion.
However, my last two attempts to redirect attention to the Basketball team went nowhere. Everybody was way too busy discussing the kindergarten top 300 prospects that may sign in 2030 ...
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 07, 2016 at 07:41 AM
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 07, 2016 at 07:03 AM
I still think he doesnt like Juve's expectations... from what Ive heard, Juve runs the team harder the most.
Posted by: Go Canes! | February 07, 2016 at 07:23 AM
Its just not February unless SOUP threatens to shut down the blog from lack of interest.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | February 07, 2016 at 07:41 AM
It's never too late to join the soccer discussion.
However, my last two attempts to redirect attention to the Basketball team went nowhere. Everybody was way too busy discussing the kindergarten top 300 prospects that may sign in 2030 ...
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 07, 2016 at 07:41 AM
Only because that class is F*CKING LOADED! They may go undefeated 4 years straight and win 4 Heisman Trophies. We NEED those kids.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | February 07, 2016 at 07:43 AM
Its just not February unless SOUP threatens to shut down the blog from lack of interest.
Posted by: The Dude | February 07, 2016 at 07:41 AM
IIRC, the last time he did it was rather the opposite, as way too many bloggers expressed an urge to have prominent members of the coaching staff transported to outer space (or worse LOL).
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 07, 2016 at 07:47 AM
We NEED those kids.
Posted by: The Dude | February 07, 2016 at 07:43 AM
We won't get them. The SEC sends them candy and Urban Meyer offered free rides at Disney World #Cheaters
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 07, 2016 at 07:50 AM
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 07, 2016 at 07:47 AM
Every year CS hits a dead period and every SOUP says it might be time, lol.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | February 07, 2016 at 07:52 AM
Posted by: VfB_Cane | February 07, 2016 at 07:50 AM
But Miami is their dream school...
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | February 07, 2016 at 07:53 AM