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February 03, 2016

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WWIN

I read that Thomas Brown IS the OC... NOT Co OC

UMike

WWIN,,, so now recruits dont leave when coaches are fired?

CaneRock


Theres a reason they ended up at the schools they did.

Posted by: UMike | February 04, 2016 at 10:42 AM

True, but it's crazy that a 2nd tier SoFlo kid, still ends up at a mid-major. Like SOUP said, 90 kids from Dade,Broward, & PB signed D1 schollies, the amount of talent in SoFlo is bananas.

UMike

CR, yup. Like I said, its about which ones you get, cause we cant get them all. Do you get a reach like Henderson, or an elite guy like Richards or Bruce.

Go Canes!

Posted by: CaneRock | February 04, 2016 at 11:19 AM

Saw a stat yesterday that the tri-county area produces more D1 players then half the STATES in the country combined.

That's just crazy.

And the reason we should be concerned but not panicked about losing some kids.

CaneRock


Saw a stat yesterday that the tri-county area produces more D1 players then half the STATES in the country combined.

That's just crazy.

Posted by: Go Canes! | February 04, 2016 at 11:26 AM

Crazy indeed.

UMike

Its about who you lose. And we have been losing program changing players such as Cooper, Bridgewater, Collins, Cook, Ridley, Peterson etc etc etc.

I think this tide starts to turn in 2017 because our on field products wont be an embarrassment and we should be able to beat FSU

WWIN

WWIN,,, so now recruits dont leave when coaches are fired?

Posted by: UMike | February 04, 2016 at 11:11 AM

I didn't say coaches I said Golden... BIG DIFFERENCE lol!

If you were committed to UM while Golden was the coach would you had left when he was fired... Or would you be more committed since you are about to get a real coach?

Go Canes!

Three counties producing more than 25 states combined.

No wonder Harbaugh announced they're holding spring practice in Florida this year.

I'll tell you what. Whoever gets that Michigan job after he bolts back to the show for $10 mill a year will inherit a monster.

WWIN

I know I had said that if Golden was fired we wouldn't lose the class and we would probably get more players! A few others here said that too. Coincidentally we was right!

UMike

WWIN, I get what you're saying. But in most cases, even when a coach is not winning, he has built a relationship with recruits which is why a lot decommitt.

Herbieibis

No need worry about fsu and the number of 4 and 5 star players they brought in. They have out recruited us for years, especially with the big name players but they are probably the one school, despite all the talent they raked in over the years, that has done less with more. If it hadn't been for us, he'll they may have 8 or 9 ships because back in the day, we were the only ones, who had the speed and talent to beat them. The thing with jumbo,'he keeps losing coaches and they still keep bringing in top dogs and they keep getting those 5 star db's and stay loaded on defense, which we all know has been our Achilles heal for ever.
Well we have supposedly have a better staff now and with what we have coming back 10 wins is not asking much. I just want us to start winning games we should win and quit playing down to the competition. Beware, we still have some depth issues on defense and a few injuries here and there could really hurt but we have enough talent to hold our own with better coaching. Getting back to fsu, 3 out the 5 years golden was here we should have beaten them, he just was a choker.

Go Canes!

Posted by: UMike | February 04, 2016 at 11:42 AM

Exactly.

Ohio_Cane

Soup, something bad going on at your alma mater (Killian). Everyone is leaving there for Southridge

WWIN

A lot of times recruits commit to SCHOOLS these days... which I think was the case with Golden's recruits. Who didn't know he was a dead man walking? Lol

Go Canes!

Ohio I think I read the Killian coach got fired.

UMike

WWIN, its not just Golden. look at the guys that came ONLY because Coley, guys like Kaaya and Yearby. if the staff is fired while those guys are being recruited they do not become Canes. So, it is not just the HC.

UMike

Will be interesting to see what Luke does at Jackson.

WWIN

I said yesterday not to sleep on Redwine!

Proud to see him get things poppin already yesterday with byrd!

Ohio_Cane

Ohio I think I read the Killian coach got fired.

Posted by: Go Canes! | February 04, 2016 at 11:53 AM
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I think he got fired BECAUSE they're leaving.

Lur-ker

Redwine, Cager, Berrios, et al, standing for their school and teammates. Not letting the f**kery slide.

Would love to see all 3 ball out this year.

Ohio_Cane

Soup, we surpassed 1,700 followers on twitter on NSD this year. I forget the number last year, but it was significantly less.

UMike

Lurk...can you post some of the tweets?

Go Canes!

Here's one from Berrios: I'm glad kids flipped and went another way. The U isn't a choice, you're either born to be a Cane or you're not. But you wouldn't understand

raizecane


I know I had said that if Golden was fired we wouldn't lose the class and we would probably get more players! A few others here said that too. Coincidentally we was right!

Posted by: WWIN | February 04, 2016 at 11:40 AM

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Actually, you were wrong. I can assure you that if Golden was still the coach, he would have signed more players.

Go Canes!

Agree Raize.

Jsy

Golden would have definitely signed more players that's not debatable. What is debatable is would he have signed the quality of players cmr did

raizecane

What has this world come too?

From CNN -

Playboy enters non-nude era: Sexy but 'safe for work'

Go Canes!

CMR picked up a couple of surprises we wouldn't have gotten with Golden and AG surely would have added 3-5 under the radar 3 star guys, but I think the core of this class would have been more or less the same.

Ohio_Cane

Good lord I love Manny Diaz so far. Hopefully his Defense is as good as his talk is.

https://embed.radio.com/clip/60061204/?ref_url=http://miami.cbslocal.com/audio/hochman-crowder-and-krantz/&ads_ga_page_tracker=UA-17434257-49&rollup_ga_id=UA-2438645-53&r20id=67702#

Go Canes!

Manny: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2016/02/linebackers-receivers-the-best-parts-in-this-2016-hurricanes-signing-class.html

Ohio_Cane

Manny: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2016/02/linebackers-receivers-the-best-parts-in-this-2016-hurricanes-signing-class.html

Posted by: Go Canes! | February 04, 2016 at 01:14 PM
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I love Sam Bruce, but 2nd? Seriously? No. Sorry.

Ohio_Cane

1. Shaquille Quarterman, LB, Orange Park Oakleaf, 6-1, 239
- The U.S. Army All-American and nation's fifth best inside linebacker according to 247Sports.com had been committed to UM since before his junior season and all I've heard across the board from scouts is how he's going to be the best linebacker Miami has had in years. Let's face it, Quarterman doesn't have much in the way of competition to see instant playing time. He's already physically bigger than senior Jermaine Grace (6-1, 221) and only a few pounds lighter than juniors Juwon Young (6-2, 245) and Darrion Owens (6-3, 247). If those three guys are your starters next season, Quarterman, an early enrollee, is your fourth-best linebacker ahead of junior Marques Gayot (6-1, 222) and a bunch of other guys that haven't really seen the field.

2. Sam Bruce, WR, St. Thomas Aquinas, 5-8, 180
- With only five returning scholarship receivers on the roster, the Under Armour All-American and 11th best receiver in the country according to 247Sports.com will probably end up being the most impactful freshman at UM. Outside of senior Stacy Coley who should be the No. 1 receiving option, there's no reason Bruce couldn't soar past junior Braxton Berrios and sophomore Lawrence Cager to become the second or third-best weapon in the passing game behind Coley and tight end David Njoku.

3. Ahmmon Richards, WR, Wellington (Fla), 6-1 1/2, 171
- The U.S. Army All-American was a Hurricanes commitment for over a year until Al Golden was fired. Wednesday, the Hurricanes beat out Alabama to get him back. Rated the nation's 28th best receiver back into the class, Richards had 73 catches for 1,278 yards and 14 touchdowns as a senior. He's not going to do that at UM as a freshman, but he could very well be the second or third best receiver on the team behind Bruce by the time he's a sophomore.

4. Zach McCloud, LB, Lake Worth Santaluces, 6-2, 215
- Like Quarterman, McCloud has good size and not much in the way of overwhelming talent in front of him. Rated the nation's 18th best outside linebacker according to 247Sports.com, he figures to be a starter by the time he's a sophomore and will probably be the fifth-best linebacker on the team in 2016.

5. Romeo Finley, S, Niceville (Fla.), 6-1, 198
- He's not going to play a whole lot right away because the Hurricanes are bringing back seniors Rayshawn Jenkins and Jamal Carter at safety, but he's nation's 15th best safety according to 247Sports.com and will be starting by his sophomore year alongside Jaquan Johnson. He was a pivotal, late signee in this class for Richt.

6. Malek Young, CB, Coconut Creek, 5-9 1/2, 182
- A couple of scouts told me that although he wasn't the top recruit at Coconut Creek this season, he was the team's best player. The U.S. Army All-American was rated the 47th best corner by 247Sports.com and after switching from Georgia after Mark Richt was hired, I can tell you he'll see the field a lot as a freshman. Miami badly needed cornerbacks and outside of senior Corn Elder and sophomore Sheldrick Redwine don't have a lot in the way of returning experience. Young could very well start at nickel corner as a freshman and will immediately compete for playing time on kick returns and punt returns. Of the three-star recruits, he's the best in my opinion.

7. Michael Pinckney, LB, Jacksonville Raines, 6-0, 213
- Rated the 19th best inside linebacker by 247Sports.com, Pinckney is the type of playmaking outside linebacker the Hurricanes have sorely missed. Like McCloud, he'll be fifth or sixth on the overall linebacker depth chart right away and contributing on special teams for sure. Down the road, he'll be starting regularly and making big plays.

8. Jack Allison, QB, Palmetto (Fla.), 6-5, 200
- The nation's eight-best pro styler passer according to 247Sports.com and an Under Armour All-American, Allison could be the Hurricanes starting quarterback by 2017 if Brad Kaaya decides to leave early for the NFL. Is he as good as Kaaya? No. But experts will tell you he's good enough to beat out Malik Rosier after a year of learning under Richt.

9. Patrick Bethel, DE, Vero Beach, 6-3, 245
- The Under Armour All-American and 14th best strongside defensive end in the country according to 247Sports.com is going to end up being the best Hurricanes legacy player in a long list Miami has had recently. He's got the size to play immediately, though, there is talent ahead of him on the depth chart. The good news: he'll push Al-Quadin Muhammad, Chad Thomas and others to be better and more consistent than they have been. He could be a regular starter by 2017 when he's a sophomore.

10. Travis Homer, RB, West Palm Beach Oxbridge Academy, 5-11, 195
- Rated the nation's 10th best running back by 247Sports.com, Homer ran for 1,315 yards, 11 touchdowns as a senior and could fit in nicely as a freshman as a third down back. While Joseph Yearby had a nice sophomore season, Mark Walton didn't exactly explode (3.5 yards per carry) as a freshman. Homer has home run hitting ability and if Miami's running game sputters or someone gets hurt he could be given an early shot.

11. Joseph Jackson, DE, Gulliver Prep, 6-5, 245
- Rated the nation's 16th best weakside defensive end by 247Sports.com, scouts love the size and upside Jackson has. But they think he's probably a year to two years away from showing that on the college field. Long term, he could be the best NFL prospect in the class.

12. Dionte Mullins, WR, Gulliver Prep, 5-10 1/2, 179
- Under Armour All-American ranked the 34th best receiver by 247Sports.com has worlds of talent. But his academic issues -- he was ineligible to play as a high school senior -- give pause. If he's able to make it into the class, he could end up contributing right away as a freshman in a small role and help the team long term.

13. Jovani Haskins, TE, Bergenfield (N.J.), 6-4, 235
- Rated the nation's 19th ranked tight end according to 247Sports, the former high school quarterback has tons of athleticism and looks and feels a lot like current Hurricane David Njoku. But Haskins is probably a year to two years away from being a real contributor.

14. Cedrick Wright, S, Gulliver Prep, 5-9, 180
- Rated the 38th best safety by 247Sports.com, Wright has always been a bit undersized for safety. He's a tweaner and probably a candidate to at least experiment with a switch to corner.

15. Michael Irvin Jr., TE, St. Thomas Aquinas, 6-3, 220
- The son of Hall of Fame receiver and Hurricanes legend Michael Irvin has plenty of skills, but he's going to need to put on some weight and grow into the tight end position. In a year or two he should be ready to contribute.

16. Tyreic Martin, DT, Lanett, Ala. 6-3, 265
- Rated as a three-star recruit by both ESPN and Rivals, Martin was a necessary addition for depth at defensive tackle. But he's a high ceiling player who needs to develop. The Canes have had too many of those at defensive tackle. But if new defensive line coach Craig Kuligowski likes him, who am I to judge?

17. Tre Johnson, OL, Orlando First Academy, 6-7, 280
- Rated as the 148th–best player in the state of Florida by the 247sports, the former Illinois commitment played both offense and defense in high school and chose the Hurricanes over East Carolina. But he's very raw and doesn't have a lot of playing experience (16 games). He's a project at a position you can afford to have one for now.

18. Jeff James, S, Orlando Olympia, 6-1, 185
- The nephew of Hurricanes running back Edgerrin James, Jeff was ranked the 118th best player in the state by ESPN after totaling more than 1,000 all-purpose yards and five touchdowns as a senior. He had nine interceptions, among the most in the state. But it's unclear where exactly he's going to play for the Hurricanes. Some websites like 247Sports didn't even have him ranked.

Go Canes!

I disagree with a lot of what Manny wrote.

Ohio_Cane

Richards, Finley, and McCloud all should be above Bruce if he's talking about "long term impact" like the article title says.

Ohio_Cane

^^ And Allison...

Ohio_Cane

^^ And Joe Jackson...

Go Canes!

And Richards for sure.

1mg of Epi

What has this world come too?

From CNN -

Playboy enters non-nude era: Sexy but 'safe for work'

Posted by: raizecane | February 04, 2016 at 01:01 PM

Who needs to pay for playboy when the internets been built on a foundation of free naked ladies?

TonyCane

A lot of times recruits commit to SCHOOLS these days... which I think was the case with Golden's recruits. Who didn't know he was a dead man walking? Lol

Posted by: WWIN | February 04, 2016 at 11:50 AM

A truly remarkable change over what transpired in Nov-Dec 2010. After Shannon left, we were down to just TWO recruits. That sort of situation...where a recruiting cycle is wasted and you have to scramble to compensate over the next three classes was what I was afraid of going into the 2015 season. Glad to see that CMR held serve.

58 Straight

Why was it to be expected that recruits were suppose to leave when Golden was fired???

Posted by: WWIN | February 04, 2016 at 11:06 AM

Taking hate to a new level on a daily basis.

#HatersGonnaHate

58 Straight

Who needs to pay for playboy when the internets been built on a foundation of free naked ladies?

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | February 04, 2016 at 01:38 PM

What is this "Internets" U speak of and where are they keeping the free naked ladies?

Herbieibis

Already love Diaz. Great quote: "we can finish 105 in defense playing all freshmen".

TonyCane

Why was it to be expected that recruits were suppose to leave when Golden was fired???

Posted by: WWIN | February 04, 2016 at 11:06 AM

Probably because it happened (to an extent) when Shannon departed. To be fair the class was dwindling down during that 2010 season, but Shannon's leaving basically killed it.

I'm not sure if that has ever happened with a major program before when there was a coaching change - that the program falls to just two commitments.

TonyCane

Here's a good example of the jump in recruiting a coach can make from his initial class (with only a few weeks to recruit) and in Year Two. The final year of Shula is thrown in for comparison:

2006: 2 *****, 10 ****, 11 ***
2007: 0 *****, 10 ****, 12 ***, 3 **
2008: 3 *****, 19 ****, 08 ***, 2 **

TonyCane

Sorry, meant to add that this is Saban recruiting at Alabama.

Go Canes!

Just heard the Diaz interview.

This is going to be fun.

Lur-ker

Why was it to be expected that recruits were suppose to leave when Golden was fired???

Posted by: WWIN | February 04, 2016 at 11:06 AM

Probably because it happened (to an extent) when Shannon departed. To be fair the class was dwindling down during that 2010 season, but Shannon's leaving basically killed it.

I'm not sure if that has ever happened with a major program before when there was a coaching change - that the program falls to just two commitments.

Posted by: TonyCane | February 04, 2016 at 01:47 PM

Let's be honest, that class was basically is zero even before Shannon left. He had already given up on recruiting in the fall. I guess he was anticipating being fired. Really the only recruit on there was Teddy B, and it was already out there, even before Shannon left, that he was ready to flip to Louisville.

So he basically had nothing before or after he was fired. If you remember those days, it was really sad, we had like three commits. That was a really gloomy time.

WWIN

Actually, you were wrong. I can assure you that if Golden was still the coach, he would have signed more players.

Posted by: raizecane | February 04, 2016 at 12:51 PM

No... actually we were RIGHT!

We said if Golden was fired we wouldn't lose the class and we would probably add more recruits that previously wouldn't come to UM. Golden was fired, and we DID NOT lose the class, and we added recruits that WOULD NOT have committed had Golden still been here! So where were we wrong at again???

WWIN

Taking hate to a new level on a daily basis.

#HatersGonnaHate

Posted by: 58 Straight | February 04, 2016 at 01:42 PM

So we still got Golden Homers???

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