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October 16, 2016

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Ohio_Cane

BING!!

BEERicane

Glory Days playing in my head.

TruCane81

Maybe it's changed, but when I was a kid, because of the weight limits, the big kids didn't play organized football till HS. I suspect Erek Flowers was like that, He didn't start playing organized ball till the 10th grade I believe...

Posted by: CaneRock | October 16, 2016 at 08:38 PM

For the last 10 years or so, at least locally, there are many youth leagues that are unlimited weight at the top division. The coaches usually allow the other teams big kids to play.

Go Canes!

Lots of football still to be played, including an opportunity to beat the stinking Irish.

I'm still very pumped for what we have left this season.

TruCane81

From what I have seen in my life it only takes a year from a focused kid to learn how to chop his feet to block and tackle. You just gotta do it with intensity in practice a few months until you don't have to think about it in game.

The coaches are too full of themselves trying to do what thy see on tv. My younger brother was on a team that literally did NO DRILLS!!!!!!! They warmed up and scrimmaged for 2 hours. Needless to say, they SUCKED!

JCane

Epi and ThreeMack:

First, I was being sarcastic about the O suddenly magically improving, as I don't see how this could suddenly happen, especially after playing two such terrible defenses like those of FSU and UNC and doing nothing (didn't do much vs GT either). I do think playcalling could change the picture, but maybe there's more to it than just that. I hope like heck that it's not Richt, even though I see the same question marks as to the calls or non-calls on O as you do.

I tend to think more like Tony does. When I referenced the Mich fumble last year, it was with 10 seconds left and Mich on the MSU side of midfield (? 47 or 48 ydline). The coaching question wasn't about a botched punt that could happen to anyone, but whether even trying to punt was the right coaching move at that point. Hell, MSU had already given the Paul Bunyan trophy to Mich assuming a loss. Mich had already lost earlier in the season to Utah. Mich was a pretty well-stocked team inherited by Harbaugh, and yet they still seemingly got outcoached a few times last year. This year, better stocked and all, not so much...at least yet. Urban only seemed to look for jobs with teams that were pretty well-stocked to begin with. OSU was, and UF was just as much with Ron Zook (great recruiter, but couldn't win) prior. It already looks like Richt is building relationships for recruiting that weren't done by the last few coaches, so that's why I am willing to give some time. People were none too happy with Butch his first 1-2 seasons, too.

I'd like to see the pickup from Bradenton IMG. Some of their top players are leaving the state (ie qb to Texas A&M and lb to Alabama, if memory serves). That is one really good team, destroying previous undefeated and highly ranked Oxbridge last week, I think 38-0.

Still, I have major doubts about our W-L record this season. Too many games ahead that will be tough. Showing no quit and an ability to pull out the majority would do a lot for recruiting to show we're closer rather than further from a positive turning point.

TruCane81

You a Bartow grad, Soup?

Go Canes!

In Miami's 4 wins, Brad Kaaya's receivers had a drop rate of 6.0%... In losses to FSU and UNC, drop rate was 20.5%

That's a dozen drops in the last two games.

Ouch.

Go Canes!

Believe Soup went to Killian TC81.

SOUP

NO, Miami Killian HS, Class of 1980.

But I lived in Winter Haven for 10 years and have attended HS games in Winter Haven. Lake Wales and Bartow.

LOVE these places!

1mg of Epi

Tony...

Each of those first year coaches situations differ in their own way.

In Recht's case, he has NFL receivers, backs and TE along w a supposed NFL QB. Instead of using them, he is insisting on leaning on the weakness of the squad.. the OL.

This situation is of his own making, and unless he opens his eyes things will spiral. He's already losing the offense, and I don't blame them.

Again.. I know it's comforting to grasp for reason other than coaching to assign blame. In this case though, it's ALL coaching. Even the drops.

1mg of Epi

My take on this article. Well, really my questions....

1) Did TruCane happen to play OL, and does he have any eligibility left?

2) What is TruCane's coaching staff up to now, and would they be interested in taking over an underperforming ACC team mid-season?

1mg of Epi

In Miami's 4 wins, Brad Kaaya's receivers had a drop rate of 6.0%... In losses to FSU and UNC, drop rate was 20.5%

That's a dozen drops in the last two games.

Ouch.

Posted by: Go Canes! | October 16, 2016 at 10:29 PM

Watch for that number to go up as the receivers interest in their offense continues to wane. BTW, that overthrown deep ball to Richards.. That wasn't an overthrow as much as a receiver running lazy.

Go Canes!

BTW, that overthrown deep ball to Richards.. That wasn't an overthrow as much as a receiver running lazy.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | October 16, 2016 at 10:38 PM

Agree 100%. He also looked to see if he was going to get popped. There's no doubt he can be special, but he's still just a freshman. Our WR depth and talent overall is not good.

Go Canes!

Again.. I know it's comforting to grasp for reason other than coaching to assign blame. In this case though, it's ALL coaching. Even the drops.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | October 16, 2016 at 10:32 PM

I don't agree with this though. There's a lot of factors at play here, not just coaching, starting with an O-line that can't block.

SOUP

PLEASE GO BACK AND READ THE ARTICLE AGAIN.

I HAVE EXPANDED IT TO INCLUDE OTHER CANES FANS POV...

TruCane81

NO, Miami Killian HS, Class of 1980.

But I lived in Winter Haven for 10 years and have attended HS games in Winter Haven. Lake Wales and Bartow.

LOVE these places!

Posted by: ANGRY SOUP | October 16, 2016 at 10:31 PM

Ok, cool. When I wrote that post, I was hoping
it wouldn't be taken as a has been (maybe a never was, lol) rambling about the good old days. I am glad you understood the message of that long winded post.

I ignored that lost look in the unmentionable one's eyes because I knew that if my instincts were correct, Cane football was still a long way from prominence.

I played organized ball for ten years. I was fortunate to be molded by great coaches who were also great men. I am still living with the physical and emotional scars left by weak men leading teams they were not qualified to pour water for.

Richt is a GOOD coach. But good is not what we are looking for in Cane land. With our local talent base, tradition, and improving infrastructure, the RIGHT coach would put us in Bama, Ohio State, and the punks up north's league.

I was critical of the Richt hire. He had a tough situation in Georgia, playing the likes of Meyer and Saban for the conference. But what bothered me was he let Muschamp (no doubt a TREMENDOUS defensive mind) get the better of him, and let MISSOURI leap frog him to the top of the division.

I think he is what his record says, good, not great. I pray to Jesus and the football gods I am wrong.

Gin & Tonic

It's not that deep or complicated. UNC's Qb played like a sure fire first round talent. A dual threat that kept drives alive. Kayaa played like a player that needs a lot of work on pocket presence and awareness.

canezilla

I COULD SEE KAYAA GOING FIRST ROUND.... IN CFL

SOUP

READ THE BLOG AGAIN!

CaneRock

The only difference was the inner resolve of the head coach. It is the most important factor to consistent success.

Posted by: TruCane81 | October 16, 2016 at 03:59 AM

This.

CGNC

LOL, I am glad you thought I was "insightful". Better days ahead (we have been saying the now for how many years?)

Have a good evening

GO CANES

CaneRock

He also looked to see if he was going to get popped.

Posted by: Go Canes! | October 16, 2016 at 10:48 PM

Don't blame em', seems like our WRs were getting popped all game long.

CGNC

Texans v. Colts

Philip Dorsett
Frank Gore
Lamar Miller
Vince Wolfork

The Dude

We suck and will continue to suck until we dont suck anymore. Sucking sucks.

TruCane81

Did TruCane happen to play OL, and does he have any eligibility left?

2) What is TruCane's coaching staff up to now, and would they be interested in taking over an underperforming ACC team mid-season?

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | October 16, 2016 at 10:35 PM

Naw. I was a short DL 10th grade state year. I was the youngest guy on the team among only four sophmores on varsity. Practice was like swimming with tiger sharks and wrestling grizzly bears everyday. Shyt was ROUGH!!!!!

Effed up bad (grades, smh) junior year and was ineligible. Lost some weight and got faster though.

Worked like a beast and came out busting heads senior year took starting positions at rb/fb/wr and olb. I was laying that WOOD!!!! Fluke injuries derailed me to about three and a half halfway healthy games, just like that, career was over. It still pains me to know that the guys whose ass I kicked everyday went on to play college, some fbs, while I got left behind bullshytin.

Coach Smith retired. He somewhere driving a drop top, spending his money more than likely. The rest of the coaches I have lost track of except the D coordinator. He is still there but problems in the youth leagues are giving him less talent to work with.

TruCane81

I started as a ol in little league. I always took great pride in blocking the guys in front of me. If I ever gave a piss poor effort like what happened on the strip sack, I would hang the cleats up right then, maybe took up bird watching or basket weaving.

1mg of Epi

I don't agree with this though. There's a lot of factors at play here, not just coaching, starting with an O-line that can't block.

Posted by: Go Canes! | October 16, 2016 at 10:51 PM

The O-line can exposure can be minimized by spreading out, and getting the ball to the playmakers quickly in space and with tempo. You'll get the safeties outta the box and simultaneously put kaaya in a situation he is comfortable in, excels in and has grown up playing in. Reckt has been doing the exact wrong things for the make up of his team.

Look at the defense. They are a murderers row right now because Diaz has em playing to their strengths. They are a mirror image of the offense and proof that our last 5 years was not anything to due w any external factors, talent deficit or officiating.

Honestly.. this offense is an easier fix than that defense was. It is loaded with talent.

1mg of Epi

Did kaaya look like a bum when we went into the end zone in 3 plays? Did the line? Recht has the plays in there. He just isn't using em.

And it maddening.

1mg of Epi

I think he is what his record says, good, not great. I pray to Jesus and the football gods I am wrong.

Posted by: TruCane81 | October 16, 2016 at 10:58 PM

You are not wrong. He showed us Saturday who he is. Saturday will show us who he is going to be. If he comes out with the same Shiite, you can forget about this team being relevant until he brings in an OC... which probably will never happen.

1mg of Epi

^ Thursday will show us who is going to be.

WWIN

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | October 16, 2016 at 10:32 PM

How many times do we have to go through this...smh... we don't have ANY talent right now... but in two years we'll back tho! Or is it three... better subcribe to rivals to make sure, they know the exact date.

WWIN

BTW, that overthrown deep ball to Richards.. That wasn't an overthrow as much as a receiver running lazy.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | October 16, 2016 at 10:38 PM

I disagree... Richards was pissed off after that over throw... if he was running lazy he wouldn't have cared

TonyCane

We have talent, but poor depth. There was a crazy number quoted earlier this season...68, right? That has to be the lowest since 1997.

TonyCane

Going into the game with UNC, it turns out we had just 66 scholarship athletes healthy enough to play, and some playing with injuries. At this rate we'll be down to under 50 by game 12.

Gin & Tonic

Lol @ Cam Newton losing ass press conferences. Thief ass gator.

TruCane81

You are not wrong. He showed us Saturday who he is. Saturday will show us who he is going to be. If he comes out with the same Shiite, you can forget about this team being relevant until he brings in an OC... which probably will never happen.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | October 17, 2016 at 12:16 AM

This is the thought that keeps me up at night (shivers).

The Dude

Epi,

Why do you doubt Richt bringing in an OC?

I think we're looking a huge slide square in the face... like 6-6.

TruCane81

I don't think so. Noone on this schedule will blow us out unless we somehow get to Orlando, and even then, we don't have to lose big. Anyone in the ACC can beat anyone else. With our sluggish offense this is our gift and curse.

The offense has shown signs of brilliance. All we gotta do is STICK WITH WHAT IS WORKING AND CATCH THE BALL!

It literally rained on our parade when we got momentum and the wideouts couldn't catch the wet ball. We need bigger receivers with bigger hands.

Its alarming the way teams hold our reciever's jerseys and refs swallow the whistle. One of the guys may have to bite the bullet and concuss a db with a forearm shiver, accepting the following suspension. We gotta let it be known we won't tolerate that bullshit.

Those two passes Kaaya made on a scoring drive were he kept his feet busy and avoided the sack are what I have been begging for all year. If he can dig up more of that and the oline at least gets a hand on his assignment ( that strip sack was completely unacceptable, no blitz just bad technique by a lineman reaching and lunging) the offense can score enough to keep our D interested and playing aggressively.

Will the necessary changes be made to make the flashes the standard operating procedure? Only time will tell.

Go Canes!

Got a great nights sleep. So my mind is clear when I state this.

We're overreacting.

Not being a homer, not being blind.

It's true.

Every single Saturday proves over and over and over it's gotten incredibly tough to win.

Houston loses to Navy, Clemson needs OT to beat Troy and Wake, VT loses to Syracuse.

We've lost two incredibly tough ones. But we're a blocked PAT, a juggled ball called a TD, a terrible holding call, basically a ton of single plays from possibly being 6-0.

Some things need to be fixed through play calling, practice, talent and recruiting.

I trust CMR and what he'll do here long term.

That's it.

UMike

Go...you're my boy and all, but that shty is played out man. Its the same stuff you said for years under Golden. We are not a couple bad calls away from being 6-0, we are 2 badly called offensive games away from blowing out 2 teams and ending FSU's streak and being 6-0.

I get what you are saying, I get it. I WANT my mind to think we're just 2-3 plays away from 6-0 with a win over FSU. My heart wants that. But my mind is saying our offense is gonna lead to 2-3 more losses which shouldn't be. You cannot run the read option on 1st down every drive. You cannot get inside the 10 and run on 1st and 2nd and let everyone know you're throwing on 3rd. The whole idea of the read option is a joke, especially when Kaaya plays our the fake and runs SMFH...everyone knows he will not keep it.

I want to think CMR is smart enough to make the changes, but he hasn't so far. If we lay an egg again Thurs. I cashing in my fan card and moving on to a casual fan. We had a bad FSU team at home, a mediocre UNC team at home. We were given every chance to be 6-0, top 10, beat FSU and be far ahead in the Coastal. Sure were 8 points away from that, but the truth is we're 4-2, coastal most likely gone and it is 100000% on CMR.

UMike

BTW... Corn Elder deserves a better offense. He is playing lights out. Maybe our best DB in a decade. Our D gave us every change to win that game. At least we got that going for us.

HawaiiCane

CGNC...

You forgot Erik Swoopes! I saw him in on a few plays during the game.

Go Canes!

UMike all valid points, but I question your characterization of UNC and FSU as bad or mediocre. I'd venture to say either one of those teams can beat any team outside the top five on any given Saturday and both teams are ranked right now.

It's exactly where we are. On any given weekend we can compete with 90% of the teams in the top 25 and that's with all the issues of depth, time in the system, playcalling and our offensive line.

I guess my point is despite how conservative the playcalling has been, would they have worked the last two weeks with Chubb or Gurly in the backfield and a solid offensive line blocking for them.

I think it would have.

So I'll give him time to shake off the rust, get the right people for his system, whatever it be, and go from there.

Go Canes!

Posted by: UMike | October 17, 2016 at 07:53 AM

He's made more plays in two years than B. Harris, Burns and the undrafted kid playing the packers just picked up made in their entire careers combined and they're all in the show.

1mg of Epi

We have talent, but poor depth. There was a crazy number quoted earlier this season...68, right? That has to be the lowest since 1997.

Posted by: TonyCane | October 17, 2016 at 12:48 AM

When we play Alabama, that depth we lack is
Gonna be a problem.

30CINCO

Corn played such a great game. He was on the hip pocket of the receiver most plays and when they made a catch, he was there for the immediate tackle.

14 tackles, 2.5 tfl. 1 sack, and 1 pbu.

1mg of Epi


Posted by: Go Canes! | October 17, 2016 at 07:21 AM

Sorry man. Not this time.

30CINCO

So I'll give him time to shake off the rust, get the right people for his system, whatever it be, and go from there.

Posted by: Go Canes! | October 17, 2016 at 08:31 AM
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Normally takes more time than just 6 games in.

UMike

Go Canes, I hope you are right. I do. However I stand my comments about FSU and UNC. UNC lost to a UGA team that just lost to Vandy and almost lost to Nichols State!! They then beat Illinios and James Madison, followed by the FSU win. Got smoked by VT. I believe they are mediocre. Maybe FSU isnt a bad team, I was trying to say that we caught them in a down year. Needed a huge come back to beat Ole Miss, blown out by Louisville and beat by a mediocre UNC team. They also just got by WF. This is a down year for FSU and a bad FSU team by most standards and we let them off the hook.

Also, the only reason we were a blocked kick away from OT is because Elder. if he doesnt catch Cook from behind on that long run, JJ doesnt get that INT and they score 3 or 7. That dude has been awesome this year

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