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December 13, 2016

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CaneRock

I thought this was Sunny's last year? If not, I expect Him to be in the mix at RT if He's 100%. But TSL's ballin' there now, should be an interesting battle.

CaneRock

But I'm not too worried about the Tackle spots, it's the OG spots we need to get right. I thought Milo would've been a starter by now, startin' to look like a bust.

The Dude

What would be the issue with the NFL paying college athletes even while they are in school?

Say the 49ers really like Brad Kaaya. But Kaaya doesnt declare, he comes back to Miami. But the 49ers say screw it, of he's there in the 6th round we take him even though he's not coming for another year. Then he gets a prenegotiated contract (by the CBA), say its 150k while in school, then he can negotiate his NFL salary prior to the NCAA season but doesnt get paid the NFL salary until he's in the NFL.

The Holy Spirit.

Thanks JJ, Howard, Willy S, E. Hemingway and Butch D. Funniest post of the year by far

The Holy Spirit.

Forgot about Hov💎

1mg of Epi

aid the NFL salary until he's in the NFL.

Posted by: The Dude | December 14, 2016 at 06:17 PM

Because the system only works when one side holds the power.

Go Canes!

Posted by: WWIN | December 14, 2016 at 04:03 PM

I bleed orange and green.

I'll never embarrass myself by being a casual fan.

I apologize for nothing.

Go Canes.

Go Canes!

Posted by: The Holy Spirit. | December 14, 2016 at 06:28 PM

Amen.

The Dude

Posted by: Go Canes! | December 14, 2016 at 07:38 PM

Miami state sponsored media.

The Holy Spirit.

Can we get a profile on the dude? Like the one for sinister a few years back.

Go Canes!

Posted by: The Holy Spirit. | December 14, 2016 at 07:47 PM

He's a jive turkey. The enemy who makes up lies about us.

NicKane (casual fan)

Ohio_Cane
Strong will not take one kid we ACTUALLY want.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 14, 2016 at 09:25 AM

Exactly Ohio. Some of these guys on here are complete fools if they think a power five kid the five time National champion Miami Hurricanes want would ever chose USF a program that's never won nothing and never gonna get win anything, then there just blind fools! News flash to some of you, top kids don't want to play for group of five teams! And Umike you need to stop it with this BS "but USF has done it before" which if they did, it was probably someone we weren't really high on and I can gurantee it was when USF was in The big east and was a BCS conference. Some of you need to get in reality!

WWIN

People need to understand that recruiting is a DIRTY GAME...

and who's more willing to get their hands dirty...CMR or... Butch, Strong, or Kiffin... three coaches known to get down and dirty??????

WWIN

Posted by: Go Canes! | December 14, 2016 at 07:38 PM

Sigh...... still don't get it is see... SMH

WWIN

^^^^^^
I see

The Dude

Posted by: NicKane (casual fan) | December 14, 2016 at 08:44 PM

Hahahaha. You have a strong opinion on what reality is. Problem is that your wrong. Miami offered 4 star ATH Bruce Judson... but he's committed to USF. He even camped at Miami where they liked him a lot.

NicKane (casual fan)

I doubt you or anymore on here know whether Miami really liked a player or not. And since I've neber even heard of the kid and he's never been even talked about once in this recruiting cycle then I'm gonna correctly assume that he really wasn't a take because if we really wanted him, we would have heard about him and would probably be on his way down to gables right now. Again, open your eyes and see reality.

The Dude

Reality says anything can happen. Even USF passing up Miami as a program.

The Dude

Posted by: NicKane (casual fan) | December 14, 2016 at 09:19 PM

Well if no one knows anything then why cant I assume that Miami has been stuck getting FIU & FAU leftovers for years? Not your best argument bro.

The Dude

Judson was committed to OSU for 6 months. Was recruited and offered by almost everyone including Miami. He chose USF over an offer from Miami. I'm sorry some people now have to deal with the fact that they've been wrong and that they are actually wrong in the very moment of whoch they are arguing that USF cant pull kids we want also. It is factually incorrect.

I mean come on blog! When have I ever led you astray?

The Dude

Posted by: The Holy Spirit. | December 14, 2016 at 07:47 PM

So glad youre finally getting the recognition you deserve. Everyone is all Jesus this and God that.

The Dude

Here's what I think.

We need to remember USF just won 10 games this year. Strong is stepping into a really good situation, not as good as Louisville, but in some ways better. All Strong has to do is make the program consistantly win 9 or 10 games. He and his DC, Im assuming Vance WILL pit players in the NFL. From there, they may not compete for titles (something Miami doesnt do either), but they will year in year out compete with Miami for 3 to 5 players. If Butch or Lane are able to get their respective schools into a position as good as USF, then Miami will get into more battles for some 3 star kids. The good news is that Lane & Butch arent sticking around long if that starts to happen.

I'm almost always right

Should this be my new blog handle? -Dude

Dude

Think I'll just drop the The.

WW can I get a copyright, trademark, royalties, etc.?

WWIN

Posted by: The Dude | December 14, 2016 at 09:10 PM

Miami losing a recruit to USF would be like Bama ever losing a recruit to Miami... NEVER will happen!

WWIN

^^^^^^
Let me check into it and I'll get back with you

The Holy Spirit.

I like The and I need to let everyone now HS lives in the gray.

TonyCane


Here's what I think.

We need to remember USF just won 10 games this year. Strong is stepping into a really good situation, not as good as Louisville, but in some ways better. All Strong has to do is make the program consistantly win 9 or 10 games. He and his DC, Im assuming Vance WILL pit players in the NFL. From there, they may not compete for titles (something Miami doesnt do either), but they will year in year out compete with Miami for 3 to 5 players. If Butch or Lane are able to get their respective schools into a position as good as USF, then Miami will get into more battles for some 3 star kids. The good news is that Lane & Butch arent sticking around long if that starts to happen.

Posted by: The Dude | December 14, 2016 at 10:32 PM

I'm not that worried about Strong. By the time he gets things squared away, Richt will have the Canes in a much stronger position.

As for Kiffin, he's out within three years unless FAU joins the Big 12. And even then, he's gone at the first light of success.

Davis has the hardest path to success. His tenure at UNC and UM were marked by great recruiting, but can Davis attract the same level of recruits at Florida International University?

Dude

Posted by: WWIN | December 14, 2016 at 10:46 PM

See that folks. Everyone needs an agent.

SOUP

Posted by: The Holy Spirit. | December 14, 2016 at 07:47 PM

So glad youre finally getting the recognition you deserve. Everyone is all Jesus this and God that.

Posted by: The Dude | December 14, 2016 at 09:51 PM

This was well played.

CaneRock

Long as Strong doesn't confuse Quinton Flowers with Teddy B., like He did with Tyrone Swoope at UT, He'll be alright.

Keoki

Keoki - when will you be at any home games?

Posted by: CGNC | December 14, 2016 at 01:07 PM

Hey CGNC, how are U and the princess?
Maybe ND and check out the Rock, who knows..

SOUP

HOW QUICKLY THEY FORGET...

High school[edit]
Webster attended Monsignor Edward Pace High School in Miami Gardens, Florida, where he was a letterman in football and track. In football, he saw action on both sides of the ball and as a return specialist and was a two-time first team All-Dade selection. During his junior season, he caught 30 passes for 500 yards with eight touchdowns on offense, while also adding 65 tackles, four sacks, seven forced fumbles and 10 fumble recoveries on defense. Academically, he carried a 3.0 GPA.[1]

Also an standout track & field athlete, Webster was one of the state's top performer in the sprinting events. He earned All-Dade County First Team 3A track and field honors in 2007 and All-Dade County First Team 3A football honors in 2008. He was tabbed All-American by Track & Field News in the 4 × 100 m in 2009. He led the Pace Spartans 4 × 100 m relay team to three straight Florida 2A state championships his sophomore and junior seasons, and posted the fastest time in the nation in the 4 × 100 m relay with a time of 40.54 seconds as a senior, setting the state meet record in the process.[2][3] He took silver in the 100 meters at the 2009 Region 4 meet, with a time of 10.67 meters. Additionally, he was also timed at 4.4 seconds in the 40-yard dash and posted a 245-pound bench press.

Regarded as a three-star recruit by Rivals.com, Webster was rated as the 28th-best safety in the nation, 29th according to Scout.com. He was also ranked as the 32nd-best prospect as an athlete by ESPN.com He chose USF over scholarship offers from Miami, Florida and Auburn, among others.[4]

College career[edit]
Webster attended the University of South Florida, where he played for the South Florida Bulls football team from 2009 to 2012. He was a second-team All-Big East Conference selection in 2011. He graduated from South Florida with a bachelor's degree in health science in December 2012.

Ohio_Cane

There's a reason Bruce Judson is at USF. Ohio state "offered" him just like we did. It wasn't ever commitable

Dude

^^^ It just cant be true SOUP because there's a feeling it cant be. Someone must have forgot to explain that we're Miami? Did we show him a helmet?

Dude

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 15, 2016 at 12:20 AM

He was committed for 6 months.

Dude

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 15, 2016 at 12:20 AM

^^^ to OSU.

And the kid is a stud player. Miami would take him in a second.

Dude

Judson is a burner. Turns the corner and burns by the defense. Is raw because he's played QB. Could have a Parrish role at Miami. Day 1 a better PR than Berrios. Stop the nonsense. You guys got called out again. State sponsored Miami media pulls 'em in every time.

Dude

This might be the most conclusively settled debate in Canespace history. Whats next? Wins dont effect recruiting?

Dude

https://youtu.be/L8W5pePpaL8

^^^ Watch Judson fly here and tell me he's not a Miami talent. Miami wanted him.

TruCane81

No. you don't get an A if you fail to achieve your two most important goals. A B is being generous considering a full third of the season was flushed.

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 14, 2016 at 03:55 PM

The A is if you disregard the offense.

Everything but that, Richt has done excellent.

UMike

Ohio... how do you know any kids offer is "committable" or not? You have no clue, just like the rest of us.

UMike

Hopefully CMR wins and Strong doesnt and none of this matters

UMike

Some of you need to get in reality!

Posted by: NicKane (casual fan) | December 14, 2016 at 08:44 PM

You mean the reality where USF has flipped Miami players in the past, the reality where Strong has flipped Miami players in the past, the reality where Strong built Louisville on South Florida players, the reality that USF was in the top 5 more recently then us, the reality that USF had a 10 win season more recently then us, the reality where USF actually beat us on the field or the reality that Strong is a huge name even after the Texas stumble....

Again... I am NOT saying it will happen. But to act like it will never ever happen because we're the big bad 5 time champion hurricanes is naive imo. Todays SR class was like 2yo when Miami won a title.

My point, if you actually read all my comments, is not that it will happen or on a regular basis, but that it COULD, it is POSSIBLE. Let us have a couple more 8-4 seasons with losses on national tv while USF keeps winning 10 games and then it becomes possible.

Hopefully that doesnt happen. Hopefully we win 9-10 games and go to the ACC title game next year. Hopefully Strong falls flat because he is a overrated coach. These are all more likely, but it doesnt make the other scenario impossible.

UMike

Gulliver Prep running back Robert Burns has been a nationally recognized name on the recruiting scene since his freshman year of high school when he was posting eye-opening SPARQ testing numbers.

It’s been a long journey for Burns, but a generally quiet recruitment since he committed to Miami almost two years ago now. Today, Burns made it official and signed with the Hurricanes – he will enroll at Miami in January and begin classes on the 18th.

“It felt amazing – just everything that you dream of finally coming true. I held back some tears, but I’ll probably cry about it later,” Burns said.

“My family has always been my support system and they’ve always been there for me, so in a way this is me showing them that everything was worth it.”

Burns is a rare commodity in today’s era of south Florida recruits – not only did he commit to the hometown school early, but he stayed true to his pledge the entire process.

“Since February 22nd of 2015, which was the day before I committed, I just felt like that was where God wanted me to be. I felt that if I trusted in God, then things would work out,” he said.

“It hit me when I actually saw the papers. I thought I was going to sign like fake papers, so that was funny. It was definitely surreal.”

A major factor in his recruitment was Miami’s on-campus recruiting coordinator Jorge Baez, who has delivered on 4-4 Gulliver targets over the last year. Burns joins Joseph Jackson, Dionte Mullins, and Cedrick Wright in Coral Gables – just a few minute down the street from the Gulliver campus.

“He’s been huge (Baez). I can’t even put into words the type of impact he’s had on my life. I’ve got nothing but love for him – nothing but love,” Burns said.

“It’s a legacy being created. It started with Sean Taylor and even to the guys from last year’s class so I wanted to follow in their footsteps and do even better than them.”

Burns, who missed most of the season with an ankle injury, is healthy and will play in the Under Armour All-American game on January 1st. He will be on Miami campus shortly thereafter.

“No doubt, I’m ready to work. I’m already learning the playbook and I’m prepping for the Under Armour game. In the back of my mind, it’s right there. I can’t wait to step on campus.”

https://www.canesinsight.com/articles/recruiting/3355

UMike

Some football news and notes on the day before Miami opens practice for the Dec. 28 Russell Athletic Bowl against West Virginia (5:30 p.m., ESPN):

* The latest on Brad Kaaya, David Njoku and the NFL draft:

Kaaya is leaning toward returning, UM sources said, and Njoku is leaning toward leaving (and has told those close to him he will enter the draft). Neither has publicly stated their intentions. Kaaya, for what it’s worth, raised eyebrows this week by tweeting (and later deleting) a photo of Njoku, tagging his Twitter handle, and captioning it “2017?” with a “thinking” emoji. So there’s that.

Kaaya, according to most draftniks, ranks behind Clemson’s Deshaun Watson, North Carolina’s Mitch Trubisky and Notre Dame’s DeShone Kizer among top eligible quarterbacks. Njoku is not rated by many websites but scouts have expressed to UM he has first-round talent.

Chad Thomas and Gerald Willis were advised to stay and it appears they will do so. WalterFootball ranks Thomas ranks 21st among eligible defensive ends.

Underclassmen have until Jan. 16 to enter the draft.

* Regarding two transfer possibilities reported by CanesInsight.com — junior running back Gus Edwards and junior defensive tackle Courtel Jenkins — UM sources said both are, well, possible.

Edwards, a Staten Island, N.Y. native who chose UM over Syracuse in 2013, could return home as a graduate transfer. He rushed for 271 yards and a touchdown in 10 games, after missing 2015 with a broken foot. Last month, running backs coach and offensive coordinator Thomas Brown said though Edwards was still recovering early in the season, he wished he had played him more.

It’s common for coaches inheriting a roster of players to have different opinions than those players on how they should be used. Transfers, both of the immediate and the “let’s wait a year and see how it goes” varieties, are not generally surprising. Without Edwards and Joe Yearby, who plans to turn pro, UM’s backfield will be less experienced, but not lacking in talent.

UM was pleased with what Edwards showed — and hopes he returns — but losing him would mean more work for Travis Homer (proved to be an excellent special-teamer as a freshman; has good top-end speed). Mark Walton, named overall team MVP at the awards banquet, put up 1,365 total yards and 15 touchdowns as a sophomore and will be one of the ACC’s premier backs in 2017. UM also has mystery man Trayone Gray returning from an ACL tear. It’s unclear what Gray has to offer. The Hurricanes plan to sign two running backs this cycle (Gulliver Prep four-star Robert Burns plans to enroll early, and potentially, Maryland-based four-star Anthony McFarland), which is good news since Walton, if he continues at this pace, is all but certain to turn pro after next year.

The father of McFarland, the No. 3 all-purpose back according to 247Sports and Rivals, told Rivals UM is “definitely his leader,” over Maryland and Alabama. ESPN rates him the No. 70 overall player in the 2017 class. ESPN rates Burns 67th, and the seventh-best running back.

A not-fun fact: if Edwards left, he would be the 12th player in UM’s 19-member 2013 signing class to transfer, be dismissed, never make it in or leave early for the NFL draft (Artie Burns). The only Hurricanes who signed that year out of high school and made it to this point: Corn Elder, Stacy Coley, Sunny Odogwu, Jamal Carter, Alex Gall, Stan Dobard and for now, Edwards.

Jenkins, according to a source, has expressed a wish for more playing time. Rutgers did not offer him out of high school (Buffalo, Maryland, UMass and Pitt did), but it is the major program closest to his Jersey City, N.J. home.

http://caneswatch.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2016/12/14/miami-hurricanes-pre-bowl-buzz-nfl-draft-kaaya-njoku-des-suspensions-transfer-possibilities-injuries/

Go Canes!

What makes me laugh the most is when people on here take these crazy scenarios and isolated cases and make them seem like realistic, long term possibilities .

Then at the same time criticize, question and downright doomsday the only program that's actually done what these other programs are being predicted to do.

We've got a future hall of fame coach who AVERAGES 10 wins. We have a tradition of putting more guys in the NFL every year than those schools will combined wether we win or lose. We're a national brand, one of the most recognizable, winningest, revered programs in college football..

And we are the rarest of schools, either loved or hated by every single follower of the sport. With us there is no middle ground.

How many schools can say just that last sentence.
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When weve been average or even bad those schools have been no threat. When CMR really starts winning they'll be down to the equivalent of a pimple on an elephant's ass.

Give me a break.

UMike

Go Canes... does that mean it could NEVER happen? Thats the only point of this.. COULD it happen?

So said "when" CMR starts winning... well that hasnt happened yet so calm down. The same "future hall of fame" coach costs us 3 wins this season because of his shitty play calling.

He may very well get us 10 win seasons and I hope he does, but this isnt the Go Canes fantasy world were Cane nation is 100% fine all the time, its reality.

So again I ask, which is my only point... COULD it happen?

UMike

Also..what exactly are the crazy scenarios?

Go Canes!

So again I ask, which is my only point... COULD it happen?

Posted by: UMike | December 15, 2016 at 06:57 AM

No.

FIU, FAU and USF will never, ever, ever be a threat in any way, shape or form.

My backing is 35 years of historical data, what's yours?

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