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December 13, 2016

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BEERicane

Tracy Howard was a 5*

CaneRock

Ray Ray played outta position, should've been an OLB/SS.

VA Cane

Frank Beamer won a lot of games.....238-121 in 28 years a lot of conference titles...a lot of bowls....but never won the NC.....the NC is elite....winning a lot of games is nice....but it is second tier....Beamer gets mentioned as one of the all time winners.....won more than a lot of people....but is that elite without a NC...NO!

The elite teams of all time have one thing in common....NC!!! In the long run.....its the only thing that matters winning it all. I like CMR...he has things turning around....but 10 wins a year really means nothing to me.....he has no title so he can only be so good. We need to win a NC to mean anything in college football again!

right now.....little u....time to win before we can be THE U!!!!

I know i am biased; I do love these guys very much.
I look at it the only way I know how....as a coach for 37 years...you have to win titles to matter....JMO

CaneRock

AQM was a bigger bust than Ray Ray...never made an impact in a meaningful game.

BEERicane

AQM was 4 star. RayRay 5. RayRay bigger. Wasn't even good enough to get exotic rental cars paid for.

Go Canes!

Our biggest bust ever was Brown, the kid from Kansas.

#1 overall recruit in the country.

UMike

I disagree.... even thought he was #1 he was nowhere near the HS LB Willie was

BEERicane

Brown balled out for Kansas St!

UMike

I also think if AB wasnt in RS "dog house" he would of done well for us. He played great at K-State

Ohio_Cane

Ray Ray was/is a starting LB in the NFL. He was misused at UM.

Go Canes!

Posted by: BEERicane | December 15, 2016 at 11:50 AM

Which makes him an even bigger bust for us.

Go Canes!

Posted by: BEERicane | December 15, 2016 at 11:34 AM

He's on an NFL roster and played in probably 40 games for us.

BEERicane

THoward was god awful

Dude

Al Golden was Miami's biggest bust.

Dude

Tracy Howard is a back up FS for the Cleveland Browns. He gets playing time.

VA Cane

Dude I think you got that one correct. The whole search was flawed, we had already fallen to a new low under Clap and Onion, and we settled for AlPa and NoDPa. Now that is a big time bust. Thanks for getting it right!!!!!!

Dude

Posted by: VA Cane | December 15, 2016 at 12:23 PM

I do what I can.

VA Cane

You did well my friend; straight up and simple. The hiring of AlPa and the Shapiro mess were nails in the coffin for us.

Winston is playing well for the Bucs; he is a good player.

This is a little different though; a settlement made. If I was innocent I would fight it, everybody is different. Thats the way it goes now.....people are not always held accountable.

http://my.xfinity.com/articles/sports-nfl/20161215/FBN--Winston.Lawsuit/?cid=featuredsports_media_Winston

Dude

VA,

Have you ever been to Appomattox?

TonyCane

One thing that everyone should keep in mind. Once the Shapiro mess started, with perhaps a few exceptions it really didn't matter who was coach. A three year, serious investigation with all of the negative recruiting that came from it was going to degrade the program regardless of the coach. We would have won more games with others at the helm, but no coach was going to restore Miami to 2001 glory between 2012 and 2014. Our fate was sealed for the next five years once Shapiro went public. And we're lucky the NCAA was so discredited, because I firmly believe that they intended to give us Penn State's penalty.

Dude

Posted by: TonyCane | December 15, 2016 at 01:40 PM

Yawn. Not even going down Golden Excuses Lane anymore. Trying to keep the horse fresh in case its actually needed.

1mg of Epi

I think Go's point is that USF's recruiting won't impact UM. I don't think he's saying there will never be a UM target who, for whatever reason, decides to play at USF.

I agree with Go.

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Coolmac758

I Wish we let Brian Edwards go to Louisville and Christopher Henderson go to the Gators. They are not True canes. I pray we get Jvante Dean, so We Don't have to Deal with them. If Christopher Henderson played Receiver then I'd be hurt because he's Electric, but not at DB.

BigWindyCane1

I saw Taggert on the recruiting trail a couple years ago when he started was at USF, and I even saw him once at Traz Powell, watching Miami Jackson play. Taggert is a real football guy. He really enjoyed watching the high school games, and he was 100% focused on what was going on in the game. He watched players closely, and you could tell that he had a discerning eye and kept things close to the vest. Taggert was definitely impressed by the number of players who were really talented, but not noticed. Taggert loves watching football, and he watches everything a recruit does. He learns a lot about recruits, and he has a good eye for talent and his system. Taggert also develops players.

Charlie Strong is a different kind of coach in many, many ways. Strong might like returning to Florida because of his relationship with the coaches. There is enough talent in the State to fill both rosters with good players.

I had a good feeling for the kind of talent evaluator Butch Davis was as a college football coach (he was perhaps the all-time best), but I am not sure if the time off has affected him. The State of Florida actually produced more talent now than it did when Butch was the Hurricanes Coach in the late 1990s, and Butch has acknowledged that. Butch focused a lot on the psychology of players, and he was excellent.

I know nothing about Kiffen as a recruiter, so I cannot comment on that. Recruits will want to play for him, but building a football program is tough business. A lot goes into being successful, and I don't know if Kiffen will have all of the support needed to be successful. I also don't know his attributes as a talent evaluator.

It will be interesting around here for the next few years.

VA Cane

I think the point is this: all these guys, UM included will go after guys, compete with each other. We have been down since 03 for me....nut we have come a long way from Clap, Onion, AlPa and Shap. Richt has improved a lot of thinngs, and the culture, attendance, and good feeling are on the rise. I think Go means if we continue to get good players, and some great ones, and we start winning the way we should or could...11-1 beat FSU ND play for division and conference, get to a playoff game....we should have a decided advantage over the smaller schools. We need to win on a big time scale....not lose on TV/in front of recruits....Can CMR win...yeas he can. Can he win the big games we have not won in a long time? We hope he can. Its up for thought!

Ohio_Cane

RIP, Craig Sager. Man, I hate cancer....

Go Canes!

Susan: Adrian Colbert practicing

30CINCO

Source: Miami Hurricanes DL Gerald Willis out for Russell Athletic Bowl

http://caneswatch.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2016/12/15/source-miami-hurricanes-dl-gerald-willis-out-for-russell-athletic-bowl/

Dude

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 15, 2016 at 03:26 PM

Some one on this blog will now defend cancer. Lol.

Ohio_Cane

Prob UMike lol

WWIN

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 15, 2016 at 01:45 PM

No... his point is that USF will NEVER get ANY recruits that UM REALLY WANTS.

WWIN

Posted by: Coolmac758 | December 15, 2016 at 02:00 PM

EXACTLY! And we need to stop recruiting anybody that takes a visit elsewhere!

CaneRock

Sad day indeed, RIP Mr.Sager.

#cancerSUCKS

BEERicane

Man, I hate cancer....

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 15, 2016 at 03:26 PM

Me too! Pew pew

Go Canes!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 15, 2016 at 03:43 PM

Cancer is a projecti.

TonyCane

Dude, responding to VA and his nail in the coffin comment. Not excusing Golden, who I said gained less wins than others would have. Just pointing out that if we had somehow hired Nick Saban or Jim Harbaugh in Dec 2010, we still were going to take a big hit.

TonyCane

VA, it's a little conservative. We have been down nationally for ten years. Miami was ranked #2 with two games left to go in the 2005 season.

Dude

Posted by: Go Canes! | December 15, 2016 at 04:44 PM

We didnt want cancer anyways.

SOUP

Raize...I sure hope so. That is exactly what we need. A marquee win against a ranked team on tv. Something kids will remember and momentum for next year.

Posted by: UMike | December 15, 2016 at 09:23 AM

UM 41, WVU 20

SOUP

I hate the damn inferiority complex Golden and Radio have instilled in this school and fan base. I understand, but i hate it.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 15, 2016 at 09:42 AM

Call it what U want but it is REALITY, that's what I call it. Until we don't suck anymore, we still suck. Deal with it.

SOUP

Just win the damn Russell Athletic Bowl Game. That is all!

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | December 15, 2016 at 10:51 AM

There IT is right there.

Go Canes!

Posted by: Dude | December 15, 2016 at 06:01 PM

That one was very funny TD.

Go Canes!

Wow U of Minnesota in full revolt

SOUP

We didnt want cancer anyways.

Posted by: Dude | December 15, 2016 at 06:01 PM

At least this we can ALL agree on.

1mg of Epi

Posted by: Dude | December 15, 2016 at 06:01 PM

That one was very funny TD.

Posted by: Go Canes! | December 15, 2016 at 07:01 PM

Agree

1mg of Epi

I Wish we let Brian Edwards go to Louisville and Christopher Henderson go to the Gators. They are not True canes. I pray we get Jvante Dean, so We Don't have to Deal with them. If Christopher Henderson played Receiver then I'd be hurt because he's Electric, but not at DB.

Posted by: Coolmac758 | December 15, 2016 at 02:00 PM

How many "true canes" are out there you think? 3 per cycle? These kids have no reason to be canes fans unless their parents instilled it in them. These kids have no memory of Miami ever even winning a bowl game. The U means to these kids means about as much as SMU meant to us when we were kids.

If our coaching staff followed your advice, we would be at the same level of Football as Dade College.

Your mom asked that you stop posting stupidity on the internet.

1mg of Epi

One thing that everyone should keep in mind. Once the Shapiro mess started, with perhaps a few exceptions it really didn't matter who was coach. A three year, serious investigation with all of the negative recruiting that came from it was going to degrade the program regardless of the coach. We would have won more games with others at the helm, but no coach was going to restore Miami to 2001 glory between 2012 and 2014. Our fate was sealed for the next five years once Shapiro went public. And we're lucky the NCAA was so discredited, because I firmly believe that they intended to give us Penn State's penalty.

Posted by: TonyCane | December 15, 2016 at 01:40 PM

The NCAA wanted to give us penn states penalty you say? No coach could've brought us to glory you say?

You do realize that penn state finished the regular season ranked #5 this year right? One spot out of the playoffs.

Not only are you not giving golden a pass for the coaching abomination he was, but you're also giving Richt a pass for the abomination he was for long stretches this season.

Golden had the talent to win the ACC during his tenure. If you don't believe me ask the NFL. Richt should've been preparing to play for a conference ship today. At worst.

Talent is not our problem and it never was. Yea I know the D had depth issues this year, which is why Richt can be excused for one of the losses this year. Just one.

1mg of Epi

Wow U of Minnesota in full revolt

Posted by: Go Canes! | December 15, 2016 at 08:18 PM

Dammit Go, now I gotta use the google machine. How bout some links next time pal?

1mg of Epi

Go.. that is a crazy story. Seems like schools handle sex assault charges against football players only on extremes. Push the charges under a rug or push the players under a bus.

mi@mic@ne

http://www.stateoftheu.com/2016/12/15/13977706/miami-hurricanes-recruiting-radar-wr-kevaughn-dingle-decommits-from-miami-canes

1mg of Epi

mi@mic@ne
http://www.stateoftheu.com/2016/12/15/13977706/miami-hurricanes-recruiting-radar-wr-kevaughn-dingle-decommits-from-miami-canes

Posted by: mi@mic@ne | December 15, 2016 at 10:41 PM

It's a bad look for a program to just stop communicating with a commited player. Don't know why they can't pick a phone and tell a kid they no longer have interest. Lacks class.

VA Cane

Tony I know what you mean; thats my bust...I look at things as a coach..while you study the numbers and facts...you are the best buddy....if you aint first you got a ways to go; if you are second, you are the first to lose. That me Coach VAC...your facts and #'s are great...and when I have asked a question you respond with greatness!!!!
We were not that bad a couple of years after the Fiesta Fiasco....the real drop...when the idiots stomped on Ville logo....that did it. In 37 years....I have never had any BS like that....sandlot, 8th grade, HS or college teams I have coached. That was Karma...football Gods....and since then....we are ....well...not up to par...or to quote our glorious Real Estate mogul second only to the Trumpster....we have sucked....JMO and the Bosses!! Tips to you Boss!!!!

T Sully right on...do what you can do...beat WVU....focus on fundamentals!!

I do hate cancer...it wiped my father out...yet he lived through it...but was never the same. My wife had a complete hysterectomy at 30....but we lived through it. Mr. Sager never quit, kept bringing it....he was a great individual...great style...like my boy Stuart Scott...those guys are winners...no quit...love them!

Birthday Brother Epi ...I agree....VT our D was poor...it happens...for a unit full of Frosh, new coaches...lost guys....guys who did stupid shit...and were "critical" to our success...a weak secondary....I thought Manny and Kool had us in 11 games poised to win...they attacked...I thought it was me coaching the D..bad ass man..blitz...hitting hard...just kiddin lol... we had guys lost hurt....great excuses....but Manny and Kool and Co had them guys playing as good as anybody in the country...I said it Bro...

Again hats off to Mr. Sager....he was fantastic and had his own style....

VA Cane

Birthday Brother...i agree...Kentucky The ville.. WVU....not bad schools....but if you need a kid....you call the guy regularly....even after a commit.....never quit.....I can recruit new kids for my programs....they would tell you the VAC bugs the hell out of them....but....they come in droves....thats why we win....simple...hey Bro?

WWIN

^^^^^^^
1mg...see this is the type of 💩 that keeps Go Canes up at night!!!

SOUP

Hell, Rudy from ITU rode all the way to J'ville thinking Barrington was gonna don a UM hat...remember that SOUP? LOL.

Posted by: CaneRock | December 15, 2016 at 11:18 AM

YUP, and BG1906 said he was a Cane fo sho!

SOUP

Dammit Go, now I gotta use the google machine. How bout some links next time pal?

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 15, 2016 at 10:29 PM

What is this "google machine" U refer to?

Can it be found at Target or WalMart?

VA Cane

Noooooo find it at the deserted 7-11 in suburbia.....deserted cities of the heart....Cream...1968....long time gone.....

VA Cane

Again RIP Craig Sager.....he was original different....and he fought it...did not shy away....he's a hall of famer....he was just so original and cool...God bless his family and all of us he touched....he was so original and though he was not a coach player GM.....he was a great person ....he had courage strength and faith...GOD bless him and his familty.....

Go Canes!

Posted by: 1mg of Epi | December 15, 2016 at 10:29 PM


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YozC8yFrZKI

Go Canes!

Posted by: WWIN | December 15, 2016 at 11:42 PM

Would it be considered ironic I'd been asleep almost two hours when you posted this?

HawaiiCane

I just figured out why Dingle announced the rescinding of his commitment to Miami... he would have never been academically eligible to play. There we just way too many spelling and grammatical errors in his note that he posted. The least you could do when your posting a "note" from an iPhone is properly check your work! Seriously, it automatically does it for you.

SOUP

OK, boys and girls lets talk bowl game...what time do we plane to arrive for the game at designated parking area?

Travel coordinator will NOT be attending (PUNK!) so we gotta get orgamanized.

raizecane


OK, boys and girls lets talk bowl game...what time do we plane to arrive for the game at designated parking area?

Travel coordinator will NOT be attending (PUNK!) so we gotta get orgamanized.

Posted by: HAPPY SOUP | December 16, 2016 at 08:33 AM

****************************************

I have the specifics ......we just need to discuss who can bring a grill. I wil be sending a text to Happy Soup / KyCane and Canezilla with details....

What time are you guys thinking? Soup, I know you are never on time so I say your arrival time should be 10:00 AM, lol

SinisterCane

Meet the Bagman - oldie but goodie

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/4/10/5594348/college-football-bag-man-interview

Ohio_Cane

In case U don't follow recruiting much, we stopped recruiting Kevaughn Dinlge weeks ago. Rumors that he wouldn't qualify, but I think the staff has better WRs in their sights.

Devonta Smith would be huge, but I don't expect him to choose us over Bama, unless his visit in January REALLY wows him.

Ohio_Cane

Ariz:

"Harley comin"

Terrance Sullivan

Lol Happy Soup! Y'all Got This!

Go Canes!

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 16, 2016 at 09:38 AM

Kids highlights at State were unreal.

He certainly was a big time player making big time plays in a big time game.

CaneRock

Recruiting Dingle & Njoku would've been redundant.

Harley basically replaces Bruce, although Harley seems to bring more value with His kick returning ability...reminds me of Roscoe Parrish.

Go Canes!

Richt, on transfers in general: we don't want to lose good ppl, but "we're not going to beg anybody to stay at the U...too great of a place"

Go Canes!

There it is right there.

Ohio_Cane

Harley has elite speed. Bruce did not. Agree with all that, though

Go Canes!

Seems more like alum Dorsett but with better hands.

SinisterCane

Posted by: Go Canes! | December 16, 2016 at 01:20 PM

^^^^^^
Savage

Dude

What Bruce lacks in top end speed, he more than makes up for in hairy feet.

Ohio_Cane

U

Ohio_Cane

Brendan Loftus leaving UM.

Expect more of these Golden kids to be gone sooner than later.

TonyCane

Sinister, I'm guessing Alabama's bagmen employ leather suitcases as opposed to paper bags. And the bagmen meet in a $100M under ground war room, complete with real time feeds of every high school game in America.

TonyCane

1mg, I'm not saying that no coach could bring Miami to glory know as a result of the investigation. Just that during the investigation itself, I realistically don't see that even a Harbaugh would have gotten us to a NC. Too many negative factors going on in 2012. Maybe the fairer comparison would be to say that no coach in 2012 and 2013 would have produced a 2001 Miami team. Every other year is fair game.

Herbieibis

It's time to get elite, not average. We need play makers at wr. We've had enough Dingle types on the roster. It's getting to the point that coaches think we need all small forwards at wr, u know 6'3, 6'4 types. We need a couple jitterbugs that can fly. Loftus was a stiff and so is Mahoney.

Ohio_Cane

Jahair Jones will be leaving, too, I bet.

Dude

Posted by: TonyCane | December 16, 2016 at 03:20 PM

Al put himself and his friends before Miami. If he'd have fired the DC, he'd probably still be the coach. No one asked him to win a title right away. But the Coastal has been there for the taking for years. Now the new coach cant do it either. Neither he nor Richt should get a pass for this not happening yet. Or Miami for that matter. Miami's leadership gets a big stinking F. No bowls and no ACC Coastal since joining. Pathetic. You'd have to try to suck that hard.

Dude

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 16, 2016 at 04:08 PM

Who?

Dude

Posted by: Herbieibis | December 16, 2016 at 04:01 PM

Oh dont worry. Richt is bringing in his 3 stars. And they are so much better than AG's 3 stars.

Dude, Where's My Hurricanes?

How about this handle?

Dude, Where's My Hurricanes?

Lol at the 2015 AG staff. Clemson beat them worse than their cupcakes. Highest point total and only shutout.

Dude, Where's My Hurricanes?

Clemson 41, Wofford 10.
Clemson 58, Miami 0.

That's the AG era.

Dude, Where's My Hurricanes?

Posted by: Dude | December 16, 2016 at 04:12 PM

So then yes. Donna was trying to suck that hard.

Ohio_Cane

Who?

Posted by: Dude | December 16, 2016 at 04:13 PM
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Exactly.

1mg of Epi

1mg, I'm not saying that no coach could bring Miami to glory know as a result of the investigation. Just that during the investigation itself, I realistically don't see that even a Harbaugh would have gotten us to a NC. Too many negative factors going on in 2012. Maybe the fairer comparison would be to say that no coach in 2012 and 2013 would have produced a 2001 Miami team. Every other year is fair game.

Posted by: TonyCane | December 16, 2016 at 03:20 PM

No coach in the history of CFB has produced a 2001 Miami team. That isn't the measuring stick.

Dude, Where's My Hurricanes?

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 16, 2016 at 04:22 PM

;)

Herbieibis

We were already low before the Shapiro shyt, we just sank lower but the real stinker is that at our lowest we were still better than 3/4 of these acc teams and that's even after that turd staff Goldie had. Luckily for us golden wouldn't fire anybody or he still would be here, that's the only smart thing he did.

TonyCane

Posted by: TonyCane | December 16, 2016 at 03:20 PM

Al put himself and his friends before Miami. If he'd have fired the DC, he'd probably still be the coach. No one asked him to win a title right away. But the Coastal has been there for the taking for years. Now the new coach cant do it either. Neither he nor Richt should get a pass for this not happening yet. Or Miami for that matter. Miami's leadership gets a big stinking F. No bowls and no ACC Coastal since joining. Pathetic. You'd have to try to suck that hard.

Posted by: Dude | December 16, 2016 at 04:12 PM

I agree. It's a legacy of failure. In some respects, I think Al Golden was superior to Shannon. He instituted a (misguided) nutrition program, whereas under Shannon players were completely left to their own devices (i.e. McDonalds). He rebuilt damaged relationships with high school coaches. And he kept talent coming into the program. Other coaches might have completely flubbed this, leaving Richt an FIU level of talent to inherit.

That said, he refused to change schemes, even when it was clearly obvious that what his DC was putting together was not working. Presumably he felt with enough time, and enough talent, he could get it to work. It would not, it did not, and the Clemson loss easily could have had the same effect on Miami as the UM defeats of Washington and Syracuse in 2001 did - program trajectory altering defeats. We're fortunate that Richt was available when he was. At the very least he brings much needed credibility and stability to the program and should provide a good foundation with which to build with.

TonyCane

Clemson 41, Wofford 10.
Clemson 58, Miami 0.

That's the AG era.

Posted by: Dude, Where's My Hurricanes? | December 16, 2016 at 04:19 PM

LOL...was the Wofford game an away game for Clemson too?

That Clemson loss for Miami was the equivalent of the Kansas loss for UT. You can certainly negatively recruit against a coach who was removed after losing to a team that had not won against a 1-A team in over two years.

nemo2002

Jahair Jones will be leaving, too, I bet.

Posted by: Ohio_Cane | December 16, 2016 at 04:08 PM

What about Bar Milo?

WWIN

^^^^^^^
1mg...see this is the type of 💩 that keeps Go Canes up at night!!!

Posted by: WWIN | December 15, 2016 at 11:42 PM

Would it be considered ironic I'd been asleep almost two hours when you posted this?

Posted by: Go Canes! | December 16, 2016 at 05:56 AM

😂😂😂! Told ya 1mg


CaneRock

Golden ain't keep $h!t coming to the program.

The only non-SoFlo players that have done something were/are AQM, and recently Njoku...but what big games have they had an impact on? And without Coley, we don't land Kaaya.

Face it, if we didn't have Baez,Ice, & Hurlie on the last staff, we don't get guys like CT9,Yearby, the freshman LBs, Walton, etc.. And the investigation didn't make Golden a horrible HC as you're suggesting...He was a horrible HC before,during, & after the investigation.

We probably lost 3 times as many top flight SoFlo recruits than we signed, so what good were those relationships...

Bout' the only thing I give Golden some credit for, is landing McIntosh & Norton, but even Norton was more than likely a Hurlie guy.

CaneRock

Hell, if it wasn't for WWIN & Da' Space, we don't land Corn LOL.

CaneRock

And pending the outcome of the bowl game, Richt doesn't get a pass either. The only coach that looks like UM material so far has been Diaz.

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