Here's a complete breakdown of players who transferred out, did not qualify, and were removed from the Hurricanes within two seasons for each class:
2002:
QB Marc Guillon (4 stars) last year 2003
TE Curtis Justus (4 stars) last year 2003
DE John Wood (4 stars) last year 2002
DB Terrell Walden (4 stars) did not qualify
LB Nate Harris (4 stars) did not qualify
RB J.R Mounts (4 stars) did not qualify
LB Antonio Reynolds(3 stars) did not qualify
2003:
DE Alton Wright (3 stars) Last year 2004
LB Ali Highsmith (3 stars) did not qualify
2004:
RB Bobby Washington (4 stars) last year 2004
OL Tyler McMeans (5 stars) last year 2004
OL John St. Pierre (2 stars) last year 2005
DB Rashaun Jones (3 stars) last year 2005
DB Lovon Ponder (4 stars) last year 2005
LB Willie Williams (5 stars) last year 2005
OL Josh Kerr (2 stars) did not qualify
TE Cedric Hill (2 stars) did not qualify
2005:
None
2006:
WR George Robinson (2 stars) last season '06
DE Chris Lewis (3 stars) last season 2006
DT Chaz Washington (3 stars) last season '06
QB Daniel Stegall (2 stars) went to baseball
2007:
DB Doug Wiggins (4 stars) last season 2007
TE Dan Adderley (2 stars) last season 2008
RB Shawnbrey McNeal (3 stars)last season '08
DT Chris Perry (3 stars) last season 2008
QB Robert Marve (4 stars) last season 2008
WR Jermaine McKenzie (4 stars)last season 08
2008:
QB Taylor Cook (2 stars) last season 2008
LB Zach Kane (2 stars) last season 2008
LB Brandon Marti (2 stars) last season 2008
LB Gavin Hardin (3 stars) last season 2008
LB Antonio Harper (3 stars) last season 2008
QB Cannon Smith (3 stars) last season 2008
DB Joe Wylie (3 stars) last season 2008
WR Thearon Collier (3 stars) last season '09
LB Arthur Brown (5 stars) last season 2009
LB C.J. Odom (2 stars) did not qualify
2009:
TE Stephen Plein (2 stars) last season 2009
DB Jamal Reid (4 stars) last season 2009
DB Prince Kent (3 stars) did not qualify
2010:
LB Travis Williams (4 stars) last season '10
DT Jeffery Brown (2 stars) last season 2010
OL Jermaine Barton (3 stars) last season '10
DB Devont'a Davis (3 stars) last season '10
LB Kevin Nelson (3 stars) last season 2010
RB Storm Johnson (4 stars) last season 2010
RB Darion Hall (3 stars) last season 2011
DB Keion Payne (3 stars) last season 2011
DE Andrew Tallman (3 stars) last season 2011
DT Tavadis Glenn (4 stars) did not qualify
WR Jeremy Davis (3 stars) did not qualify
DT Delmar Taylor (3 stars) did not qualify
2011:
DE Jalen Grimble (4 stars) last season 2012
DB Thomas Finnie (3 stars) last season 2012
LB Eddie Johnson (3 stars) last season 2012
LB Gionni Paul (3 stars) last season 2012
DE Ricardo Williams (3 stars)last season '12
LB Antonio Kinard (3 stars) did not qualify
RB Kevin Grooms (3 stars) did not qualify
2012:
DT Jacoby Briscoe (3 stars) last season 2012
WR Jontavious Carter (3 stars)last season'12
DB Vernon Davis (3 stars) last season 2012
QB Preston Dewey (3 stars) last season 2012
RB Danny Dillard (3 stars) last season 2012
DT Dequan Ivery (3 stars) last season 2012
DE Gabriel Terry (3 stars) last season 2012
QB David Thompson (3 stars) last season 2012
LB Josh Witt (3 stars) last season 2012
WR Robert Lockhart (4 stars)last season 2012
LB Jawand Blue (3 stars) last season 2013
DB Nate Dortch (3 stars) last season 2013
DE Dwayne Hoilett (3 stars) last season 2013
DB Larry Hope (3 stars) last season 2013
WR Angelo Jean-Louis(4 stars)did not qualify
2013:
QB Kevin Olsen (4 stars) last season 2013
RB Ray Lewis III (3 stars) last season 2014
LB Devante Bond (3 stars) did not qualify
WR Derrick Griffin (4 stars) did not qualify
TE Ryheem Lockley (3 stars) did not qualify
2014:
DT Calvin Heurtelou (3 stars) last season 15
OL Joe Brown last season 2015
WR Tyre Brady (3 stars) last season 2015
LB Marques Gayot (3 stars) last season 2015
DT Michael Wyche (3 stars) last season 2015
LB Juwon Young (3 stars) last season 2015
OL Tyler Grimsley (2 stars) last season 2015
DB Kiy Hester (4 stars) did not play
2015:
None
2016:
WR Sam Bruce (4 stars) last season 2016
Bottom line - UM had a very high roster churn in 2009, 2010, 2013 and 2016 has played havoc with overall depth. It's really unbelievable how many attrition has taken place in the last ten years.
Walked down by the yachts at lunch
Posted by: CGNC | January 11, 2017 at 02:11 PM
NEW BLOG IS UP!
Posted by: 86Cane | January 10, 2017 at 10:14 PM
Clemson came to win; Bama thought it was a win....but their attack on O beat them...no passing game. D played 100 plays...wore out and could not compete in the end!!! My boy Clelin F #99 hurt his ankle bad..left same as my broken one....but he did a good job while he played!!
So many of these guys are not ready for the NFL. The agents whisper sweet nothings in their ear...you get hurt you lose money, you need to go now for the money.....Watson is the only good QB in this draft.....the rest...well looking at them in the league....suck...they are not ready. so many of these kids are not ready....stay for 4 get your degree and then play...if you can!!!
Watson is far superior to these other QBs......Brad could not do what he did...with Clemson...or Miamis great teams. He is average...not more. I wish all these kids good luck....and death to these agents....rip off money grabbing misleading assholes...God will burn their azz!!!!!!
I hate seeing guys not ready to play go.....its these fucked up agents. BK has to know he is not ready...VT, NC QBs....they are in over their heads!!!
and I still say Allison duck, turns, avoids contact....he will not stand in there and throw it...gun shy....that does not work!
Posted by: VA Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:53 PM
No. you write the songs that make the young girls cry.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 09:08 PM
Well, there is that too.
But I want to go on record that Billie Jean is NOT my lover. I am hot blooded, you can check it and see. But she is as cold as ice and was willing to sacrifice our love. We may have had love in an elevator, but I NEVER took her to the other side or showed her how to walk this way.
#Michael
#Foreigner
#Aerosmith
Posted by: 86Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:15 PM
Post of the decade.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 09:51 PM
491
Posted by: 86Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:45 PM
No. you write the songs that make the young girls cry.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 09:08 PM
Well, there is that too.
But I want to go on record that Billie Jean is NOT my lover. I am hot blooded, you can check it and see. But she is as cold as ice and was willing to sacrifice our love. We may have had love in an elevator, but I NEVER took her to the other side or showed her how to walk this way.
#Michael
#Foreigner
#Aerosmith
Posted by: 86Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:15 PM
May I be included in this subliminal Shade throwin' party
Posted by: SinisterCane | January 10, 2017 at 03:24 PM
I brought cigars.
Posted by: TruCane81 | January 10, 2017 at 04:16 PM
#GENIUS
Posted by: 86Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:08 PM
Kaaya cried over Golden and hates CMR
Posted by: SinisterCane | January 10, 2017 at 09:08 PM
Of course u may not be talking about me, but I'm so vain I'm also pretty sure that song you wrote was for me to.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 02:46 PM
I wrote the song.
It was about ME.
Posted by: 86Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:05 PM
No. you write the songs that make the young girls cry.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 09:08 PM
May I be included in this subliminal Shade throwin' party
Posted by: SinisterCane | January 10, 2017 at 03:24 PM
It's my party and I'll cry if I want to.
Posted by: 86Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:05 PM
Of course u may not be talking about me, but I'm so vain I'm also pretty sure that song you wrote was for me to.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 02:46 PM
I wrote the song.
It was about ME.
Posted by: 86Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:05 PM
7 for the first year.
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | January 10, 2017 at 01:40 PM
I have Smart Mark at 7.375
He was above average but not excellent.
Kinda like his QB?
Posted by: 86Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:03 PM
As long as it's made all about ME!! MEEEEE
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 03:30 PM
Ok, Brad. I've, quite frankly, found your self-deprecation on here quite honest and refreshing.
Posted by: BEERicane | January 10, 2017 at 03:58 PM
Have u seen how weak this QB class is? I'm golden!! Er..
Wait
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 07:33 PM
There he goes again... wearing his privilege like a top hat and cane and talking about "those people".
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 07:31 PM
Nothing worse than people who know they're the people and act like "Who me? I'm not the people."
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 04:50 PM
4. MIAMI
Miami seems to be gradually understanding that it needs to spend more to win in this era. Hiring Richt was a positive step toward that, as is the plan to add a much-needed indoor complex and revamp the current football structure.
Those close to the program have spoken optimistically about the direction of the university’s administrators. Even the program’s biggest perceived downside, having to play at the Dolphins’ stadium 30-45 minutes from campus, is now less of a blight with the building’s renovation. AD Blake James said he believes fans will return in droves if the team can regularly compete for the ACC title.
With that blossoming internal support, The U has a very good chance to rejoin the upper tier — especially with Richt at the helm. His second act is already off to an overachieving start, and that’s before mixing in the staff’s recruiting influence in the region.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 10, 2017 at 04:28 PM
If we a qb that could move like Watson, then maybe we could play for the ship. Hurts is not a good passer, has a nice arm but was lost. That's the issue with spread type qb's is their passing ability. What has Ridley done at Bama in 2 years? Juedy wants to play in that system? If we are going to run the pro style we better get better caliber o-linemen. Our current o-linemen are better suited for the spread. U need road graders, which we don't have. We don't need another statue as a qb. We just need depth all the way across the board.
Posted by: Herbieibis | January 10, 2017 at 04:23 PM
May I be included in this subliminal Shade throwin' party
Posted by: SinisterCane | January 10, 2017 at 03:24 PM
I brought cigars.
Posted by: TruCane81 | January 10, 2017 at 04:16 PM
As long as it's made all about ME!! MEEEEE
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 03:30 PM
Ok, Brad. I've, quite frankly, found your self-deprecation on here quite honest and refreshing.
Posted by: BEERicane | January 10, 2017 at 03:58 PM
WalterFootball.com: 2017 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Brad Kaaya
Posted by: SinisterCane | January 10, 2017 at 03:26 PM
The on field analysis we all knew. But this is disappointing.
Multiple teams also expressed that they have concerns about Kaaya lacking leadership and being self-absorbed rather than focused on the team. During the fall, sources said that Kaaya talked about how this would be a good year to come out because it is a weak quarterback class and that could push him into the second or third round of the 2017 NFL Draft. Sources would have preferred hearing that Kaaya had a singular focus on beating his next opponen
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 03:32 PM
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 03:03 PM
Posted by: The Dude | January 10, 2017 at 02:49 PM
May I be included in this subliminal Shade throwin' party
Posted by: SinisterCane | January 10, 2017 at 03:24 PM
As long as it's made all about ME!! MEEEEE
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 03:30 PM
Brad Kaaya Scouting Report
By Charlie Campbell
Strengths:
Quality arm strength
Flashes ability to make some perfect throws
Can make all the throws required
Throws a catchable ball
Can throw passes with touch
Can throw the deep ball
Works through progressions in a clean pocket
Good field vision in a clean pocket
Has some experience working under center
Tough; takes big hits
Weaknesses:
Terrible vision; looks down at the pass rush
Crippling lack of mobility in the pocket
Very poor at avoiding sacks
Lacks pocket presence
Lacks awareness
Needs development for a pro-style offense
Should gain weight for the NFL
Summary: In recent years, there have been a few quarterbacks who burst onto the scene as freshman and excited the NFL scouting community for their potential in a few years. Rough sophomore and junior seasons, however, dampened the enthusiasm for those prospects and led to those quarterbacks being overhyped. Christian Hackenberg was that kind of prospect last year, and Brad Kaaya fits in that mold for the 2017 NFL Draft.
Kaaya had a strong debut for Miami in 2014, completing 59 percent of his passes for 3,198 yards with 26 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. The freshamn had a ton of talent around him in the form of stud left tackle Ereck Flowers, wide receiver Phillip Dorsett, running back Duke Johnson, and tight end Clive Walford. Those four players all went in the first three rounds of the 2015 NFL Draft with two of them being first-rounders. Kaaya was more of a game-manager as a freshman, and that was his best season of play.
With those contributors in the NFL, 2015 was a rough year for Miami, and Kaaya had to battle through with a weak supporting cast. He completed 61 percent of his passes for 3,242 yards with 16 touchdowns and five interceptions on the season. Kaaya didn't develop and showed signs of regression.
As a junior, Kaaya had a very mixed 2016 season. He did well against some weak opponents early in the year, but then had a very rough stretch in the middle of the season before playing better in the final games. In 2016, Kaaya completed 62 percent of his passes for 3,532 yards with 27 touchdowns and seven interceptions. He, specifically, put together underwhelming performances in losses to Florida State and North Carolina.
As a passer, Kaaya can be excellent when he has a clean pocket. He has a good arm that can make all the throws in the pro game. When the pocket is clean, he is accurate in tight windows, can throw pretty touch passes, and demonstrates field vision to work through his protections. The problem is Kaaya has to be able to thrive without a perfect pocket to throw from, which puts too much pressure on his offensive line to be flawless. That is an impossible expectation in the NFL, even for the best offensive lines in the league.
There are two crippling issues that Kaaya fails to overcome. The first is whenever he starts feeling the pass rush, he drops his eyes and watches the defensive linemen swarm around him. On top of that, he is a statue in the pocket and rarely do you see him move to avoid rushers. There are lots of plays on which Kaaya looked like a deer in headlights who was just waiting to be tackled. Effective NFL quarterbacks keep their eyes downfield, glide in the pocket to avoid rushers, and deliver accurate passes in the face of a rush. It was a very rare sight to see Kaaya do that. Kaaya's struggles to pass the ball while under pressure are a huge problem that could lead to him not panning out in the NFL.
Multiple teams also expressed that they have concerns about Kaaya lacking leadership and being self-absorbed rather than focused on the team. During the fall, sources said that Kaaya talked about how this would be a good year to come out because it is a weak quarterback class and that could push him into the second or third round of the 2017 NFL Draft. Sources would have preferred hearing that Kaaya had a singular focus on beating his next opponent.
This draft analyst's opinion is that Kaaya fits a fourth-round pick for the 2017 NFL Draft. In speaking with sources from teams around the NFL, their grades on Kaaya weren't high. One general manager of a playoff team that is very skilled at quarterback evaluation said they had Kaaya as fifth-round pick. They feel he has no mobility, can't throw well while under pressure, and while his arm is decent, it doesn't blow them away. Two other teams said they graded Kaaya as a late third-, early fourth-rounder.
There are plenty of teams in the NFL that are starved for quarterback talent, so Kaaya could rise in the leadup to the 2017 NFL Draft just because of need and desperation. Kaaya might end up being a second-day pick, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he slips to Day 3.
Player Comparison: Blaine Gabbert. Gabbert (6-4, 235) is more athletic and a little thicker than Kaaya, but they are the same height with quality arms. Both of them are terrible at passing in the face of a pass rush and have serious problems with their field vision. They take far too many sacks and put too much pressure on the offensive line. Both Gabbert and Kaaya also lack leadership traits that NFL teams want out of their quarterback. In the NFL, I could see Kaaya being a quarterback comparable to Gabbert.
NFL Matches: Cleveland, San Francisco, Chicago, Jacksonville, New Orleans, San Diego, Arizona, Houston, Kansas City and Pittsburgh
There are a lot of quarterback-needy teams in the NFL, and that will help Kaaya's chances of being drafted higher than where he should go. Obviously, the Browns are in dire need of a solution to their quarterback quandary. Cleveland also is loaded with draft picks including two in the first round, two in the second, and one in the third. Kaaya could be a candidate for the Browns on Day 2 or on Day 3.
The 49ers are also desperate for a starting quarterback. Chicago, meanwhile, could move on from Jay Cutler after this season, and Kaaya could be worthy of consideration for the Bears. Chicago showed interest in Kaaya during the fall.
Blake Bortles is looking like he could be a bust for the Jaguars. In the mid-rounds of the 2017 NFL Draft, Jacksonville could consider taking a quarterback to push Bortles and give the organization another option in case Bortles continues to struggle. Houston will also be in the market for another quarterback this offseason given the struggles of Brock Osweiler.
The Saints, Chargers, Cardinals, Chiefs and Steelers all fall into the category of teams that have aging starting quarterbacks. Each one could consider drafting Kaaya in the mid-rounds and developing him with hopes that he could be the heir apparent.
WalterFootball.com: 2017 NFL Draft Scouting Report: Brad Kaaya
Posted by: SinisterCane | January 10, 2017 at 03:26 PM
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 03:03 PM
Posted by: The Dude | January 10, 2017 at 02:49 PM
May I be included in this subliminal Shade throwin' party
Posted by: SinisterCane | January 10, 2017 at 03:24 PM
Well your wrong. Obviously about me!!
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 03:03 PM
Of course u may not be talking about me, but I'm so vain I'm also pretty sure that song you wrote was for me to.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 02:46 PM
See I thought the same thing, lmao.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 02:49 PM
They didnt have a 4 game skid, or a loss to sh*tty Notre Dame. It really doesnt matter.
Posted by: The Dude | January 10, 2017 at 02:12 PM
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They lost to a team who had a 4 game skid and lost to a shitty notre lame team, tho...
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 10, 2017 at 02:47 PM
When Clemson does it, it's a coaching clinic. When we do it, it's overcoming Richt's stubbornness and the fact Kaaya sucks.
Come on now.
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 12:07 PM
U just wait one second! My beef is that it took a month for Richt to change things up... 4 games counts as stubbornness in my book! And I've been pretty charitable to Kaaya, as I've blamed his deficiencies mainly on coaching.
Of course u may not be talking about me, but I'm so vain I'm also pretty sure that song you wrote was for me to.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 02:46 PM
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 10, 2017 at 01:41 PM
They didnt have a 4 game skid, or a loss to sh*tty Notre Dame. It really doesnt matter.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 02:12 PM
They have no business being ahead of us.
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 01:52 PM
Agree Ohio_Cane.
Posted by: CaneRock | January 10, 2017 at 01:47 PM
O_C,
I dont have a problem being ranked below a team we crushed in the AP poll. WV had a better season than we did.
Posted by: The Dude | January 10, 2017 at 01:29 PM
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1 win more than us in a much worse conference and we dominated them head to head. I have a problem with it. I don't have a problem with being 20, that seems about right. But they should be behind us.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 10, 2017 at 01:41 PM
Smart Mark just missed the last spot Gator DC Randy Shannon obtained in a final poll with the Hurricanes as head coaches.
GD suicide watch is on for the offseason. Finally lost just enough with the chosen jabronie and still never won 10 against FBS teams even with the cupcakes added to the tally, then Shannon outperforms even Smart Mark out of the gate.
At least the smarks will be the majority of the roster now. That means the sky's now the limit but the floor remains to be determined.
The only real worry is short week preparation after this campaign 86, Smart Mark gets a
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7 for the first year.
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | January 10, 2017 at 01:40 PM
2017 No Excuses for Players or Coaches get it done
Posted by: SinisterCane | January 10, 2017 at 01:39 PM
I-AA home opponent ( Most likely Bethune Cookmane. )
@ Arkansas St.
Toledo
Notre Dame
The usual Coastal division teams.
@ FSU
Syracuse
The ACC gave Miami a break. Because Syracuse will be a conference BOTTOM FEEDER next season.
The bottom line: The success of next season is all predicated on the OFFENSIVE LINE and the new starting QB! No ifs, buts or huh.
Posted by: TheeMackJones | January 10, 2017 at 01:36 PM
Spring game is going to be interesting
Posted by: CGNC | January 10, 2017 at 01:32 PM
Championship game needs to come on earlier if it gonna being around 1230ish
#Extendtheplay
Posted by: SinisterCane | January 10, 2017 at 01:32 PM
I had mighty Clemson taking the ' + - 7 1/2 points! ' So the Tiger victory was just the proverbial icing on the chocolate cake. duh
Posted by: TheeMackJones | January 10, 2017 at 01:30 PM
I'm stoked to have finished the season ranked. Im dying to see next year's schedule.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 01:30 PM
O_C,
I dont have a problem being ranked below a team we crushed in the AP poll. WV had a better season than we did.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 01:29 PM
Posted by: CaneRock | January 10, 2017 at 01:16 PM
I think it has something to do with making people pay for satelite or cable.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 01:28 PM
U
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 10, 2017 at 01:27 PM
The FINAL college football polls which matter the most.
Sagarin's No. 12 Miami, Florida
S+P College football insider's No. 13 Miami, Florida
ESPN Power football index No. 14 Miami, Florida
Again, I mentioned after the Russell bowl victory that MY Miami is a LEGITIMATE Top 16 team. huh And those polls above VALIDATE my opinion! duh
Oh. And one more thing. Cane fan still DOESN'T realize that Miami will never get ' respect ' from the majority, BUT NOT ALL, of the major college football punditry.
So why get all psycho, and what not, over Miami's final No. 20 A.P. ranking. Matter of fact, I envisioned Miami being ranked either No. 22/No.21. So some AP voters gave Miami some ' love ' and what not.
Posted by: TheeMackJones | January 10, 2017 at 01:26 PM
ACC Baby!
Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | January 10, 2017 at 01:25 PM
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM
You be fair to CMR...Brad's been inconsistent his whole career...even look at the FAMU and FAU games this year
Posted by: WWIN | January 10, 2017 at 01:22 PM
ACC!
Posted by: CGNC | January 10, 2017 at 01:22 PM
And that's the thing, has UM & USC ever been at the top at the same time?
Posted by: CaneRock | January 10, 2017 at 01:20 PM
TD, I think it has something to do with 2 Southern teams playing for the Championship 2 years in a row. Bama & Clemson don't exactly play in big media markets. That's why I think it's imperative that UM & USC get back to the top.
Posted by: CaneRock | January 10, 2017 at 01:16 PM
Ratings for the championship were down again? Gee I wonder why? ESPN ruins everything.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 01:09 PM
Not sure the game, but Coley was called for it, cant remember if it was holding or offensive PI and it negated a TD
Posted by: UMike | January 10, 2017 at 01:03 PM
UMike...what did Coley get called for, holding? I think the rule is, if the DB tries to release, you gotta let em' go. They called that on Dobard in the 15' Nebraska game...Dobard was just too big for that lil' DB LOL.
Posted by: CaneRock | January 10, 2017 at 12:57 PM
it could of been called, but maybe wasnt as obvious as I thought
Posted by: UMike | January 10, 2017 at 12:56 PM
Depends on how you look at it...I saw Coley called for it, the WR went straight at the DB, but the DB did grab him also
Posted by: UMike | January 10, 2017 at 12:53 PM
I must have missed that, I'll take your guys word on it. Bottom line I thought Bama should have had some players ejected and that didnt happen.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 12:50 PM
And UMike, I agree with you on the 2nd one, He dove.
Posted by: CaneRock | January 10, 2017 at 12:47 PM
Looks like you guys are right, I think he was trying to draw a penalty and the Db kinda just let him fall with some help lol
Posted by: UMike | January 10, 2017 at 12:45 PM
I will have to go back and look, I thought I saw a pick play
Posted by: UMike | January 10, 2017 at 12:44 PM
UMike...I think the 1st one was illegal, as Leggett looked like He extended His forearm to knock the inside defender down. The 2nd one looked legal though. But Saban should've adjusted and played some type of off-man coverage, or putting a bigger defender on Leggett.
Posted by: CaneRock | January 10, 2017 at 12:40 PM
I totally agree Raize.
It looked to me like he was trying to draw a penalty on the offense but the official didn't bite.
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 12:37 PM
Posted by: The Dude | January 10, 2017 at 12:16 PM
People. They know who they are.
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 12:36 PM
THE MAN, I hear ya...but we got nailed for it lol...I mean he basically dove at the DB's legs, it wasnt a cross route
Posted by: UMike | January 10, 2017 at 12:15 PM
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What were you watching? There was no dive. The DB basically grabbed him and threw him down thus the no call for a pick....
Posted by: raizecane | January 10, 2017 at 12:31 PM
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 12:07 PM
Who said that?
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 12:16 PM
THE MAN, I hear ya...but we got nailed for it lol...I mean he basically dove at the DB's legs, it wasnt a cross route
Posted by: UMike | January 10, 2017 at 12:15 PM
Posted by: UMike | January 10, 2017 at 12:00 PM
That's basic sandlot football though UMike. If you have two WR that cross the outside defender should still stay to the outside and the inside defender take the inside WR. That was too easy and should not have happened, but I'm glad it did.
Posted by: THE MAN | January 10, 2017 at 12:12 PM
Posted by: UMike | January 10, 2017 at 12:00 PM
The officiating was really bad. Clemson got away with at least 2 really bad pick plays and a couple of pushing offs. Meanwhile the Tide should have had 3 players ejected for targeting. They missed a bunch both ways I thought. Then they kept reviewing plays that looked like they didnt need to in the 1st place.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 12:11 PM
This is getting downright funny.
Clemson's offense started out putrid. They couldn't get out of their own way. Couldn't gain a yard rushing and Watson looked so bad even Herbstreet said he looked rattled. Then they catch fire and put up a huge night offensively.
When Clemson does it, it's a coaching clinic. When we do it, it's overcoming Richt's stubbornness and the fact Kaaya sucks.
Come on now.
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 12:07 PM
Im glad Clemson won, I wanted them to, but how obvious was the "pick play" pass interference on the game winning TD?
Posted by: UMike | January 10, 2017 at 12:00 PM
^^^ you said theres no doubt. I said we could beat them, in other words, theres no doubt that theres doubt.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 12:00 PM
Youre crazy. If we played them right now, either team could win, but OSU would be a heavy favorite.
Posted by: The Dude | January 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM
So your calling me crazy for thinking that we would beat OSU. You just said we could win too!
Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | January 10, 2017 at 11:58 AM
Coaches are in the trees and have a hard time seeing the forest. For whatever reason (stubborness, loyalty) they wait too long to make the necissary changes. If Richt was just rusty this year, and he really is the goods, then next year we can expect 9 to 10 wins again. But if the truth is that he isnt up to snuff, it could be a 6 to 8 win season. The good news is that the D is back, so all of the pressure is squarely on Richt's O. Any unreasonable failure on the O's part will piss a bunch of people off.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 11:57 AM
I dont think OSU would be a heavy favorite at all if we played them today.
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 11:55 AM
He really did coach us out of a great season.
Posted by: BEERicane | January 10, 2017 at 11:10 AM
He also coached BK into a spot where we could spend weeks debating to what level of suckage he did (or didn't) meet.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM
Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | January 10, 2017 at 11:48 AM
Youre crazy. If we played them right now, either team could win, but OSU would be a heavy favorite.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 11:50 AM
All the offenses in the Big 10 blow as well as the SEC!
Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | January 10, 2017 at 11:49 AM
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 11:44 AM
I forgot about that.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 11:49 AM
And yes if we played Ohio State this year there is no doubt we would beat them!
Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | January 10, 2017 at 11:48 AM
I still think Ohio State is trash....The refs helped them out a lot this season too! When u lose 31-0 in the playoffs, you have no business being in the top 10
Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | January 10, 2017 at 11:47 AM
Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | January 10, 2017 at 11:37 AM
You said that about Urban Meyer and OSU last year and they ended up in the playoff.
Clemson is an elite program now thats loaded top to bottom with great talent.
Like Ohio State, they aren't going anywhere.
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 11:44 AM
The only way I can be patient any longer is to be dead,
Posted by: nemo2002 | January 10, 2017 at 11:07 AM
You said that right! Lol
Posted by: WWIN | January 10, 2017 at 11:37 AM
Clemson will be average next year. They are losing a lot of players. With the team they had, they should of been dominate every game this year, which they hardly were. If you look at there schedule, there were 5 games where they only won by 7 points or less.....One of those was only a 6 point win against Troy.
Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | January 10, 2017 at 11:37 AM
They ran it 42 times out of 99 plays, even though it was rarely effective.
What it did is give Watson the time to overcome a very poor start and wear the hell out of Bama's D. It also slowed the pass rush that was killing them early.
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 11:30 AM
Clemson also hired Chad Morris after that 6-7 season. The Clemson faithful were angry with Dabo then too.
Posted by: The Dude | January 10, 2017 at 11:22 AM
See what I'm sayin'...but we gotta be patient...we gotta be oblivious to mediocrity...smh.
Posted by: CaneRock | January 10, 2017 at 11:28 AM
We all see the res flags around the O. We can tell right now Richt needs some help, but he'll just keep going through 2017 with the same problems. People will defend it, new QB excuse, then in 2018 with the same problems, the people who saw the red flags in the begining will be irrate, then they might hire some OC help, of course Diaz will be gone by then and we'll start the cycle over on the defensive side.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 11:26 AM
Clemson also hired Chad Morris after that 6-7 season. The Clemson faithful were angry with Dabo then too. But the admin and Dabo checked their egos and got some coaches. Thing is, it takes these coaches years to admit they are the reason they are losing, and go out to get top notch coordinators, some coaches never do it, like AG.
Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 10, 2017 at 11:22 AM
^^^My concern about Richt from day 1.
Posted by: CoCane | January 10, 2017 at 11:12 AM
CR, as much Kaaya bashing as I do, I think most would recognize if Richt didn't spend 4 games going run-run-run punt, we end up with a great season. Worst case: without the worst play calling since Nix, we go 11-3 and probably 12-2 this year (we probably lose to Clemson in ACCCG no matter what). He really did coach us out of a great season.
Posted by: BEERicane | January 10, 2017 at 11:10 AM
Canes fans don't have patience any more lol
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:47 AM
Yeah that bridge 🔥🔥🔥 down 10yrs ago! 😂😂😂
Posted by: WWIN | January 10, 2017 at 10:25 AM
The only way I can be patient any longer is to be dead,
Posted by: nemo2002 | January 10, 2017 at 11:07 AM
The run wasn't clicking, ditch it and toss it all over the yard.
Posted by: BEERicane | January 10, 2017 at 11:00 AM
With Kaaya???...LOL
Posted by: CaneRock | January 10, 2017 at 11:03 AM
Clemson was -2 in turnovers last night and able to overcome it. Big reason was their dominance through the air - 420yds passing. This goes to show you the importance of making in-game, non-stubborn adjustments. The run wasn't clicking, ditch it and toss it all over the yard. Richt could learn a lot from that coaching clinic.
Posted by: BEERicane | January 10, 2017 at 11:00 AM
Venables has as much, or more to do with Clemson's success since 12'. It's no coincidence that they've been 60-9 since they've hired em' after that 70-33 drubbing to WVU.
Posted by: CaneRock | January 10, 2017 at 10:57 AM
16. Miami
2016 record: 9-4, 5-3 ACC
Returning starters: 6 offense, 8 defense, 1 special teams
Key losses: QB Brad Kaaya, RB, Joseph Yearby, WR Stacy Coley, TE David Njoku, G Danny Isidora, CB Corn Elder, FS Rayshawn Jenkins, S Jamal Carter Sr.
Outlook: After winning nine games, including Miami's first bowl victory in a decade, Mark Richt's first season as coach of his alma mater was an undeniable success. Miami's defense under coordinator Manny Diaz was much improved, even with the Hurricanes starting three freshman linebackers. If the Hurricanes are going to improve in Year 2 under Richt, they'll have to find a replacement for quarterback Brad Kaaya. The program's all-time leading passer is leaving early for the NFL draft. Sophomore Malik Rosier, who has thrown 61 passes the past two seasons combined, is the favorite to replace him, but freshmen Jack Allison and Evan Shirreffs might also get looks. The Hurricanes will play three of their most difficult ACC games on the road in 2017 -- at North Carolina, Pitt and Florida State.
Posted by: SinisterCane | January 10, 2017 at 10:50 AM
Going to be an interesting 2017, there will be expectations:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18395211/alabama-crimson-tide-florida-state-seminoles-headline-way-too-early-top-25-2017
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 10:26 AM
Canes fans don't have patience any more lol
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:47 AM
Yeah that bridge 🔥🔥🔥 down 10yrs ago! 😂😂😂
Posted by: WWIN | January 10, 2017 at 10:25 AM
Dabo certainly knows how to coach basketball. I saw some very good picks the receivers put on those bama d backs....if they pick on most passes what other funny things to they teach the offense?... It showed how important it was to keep Watson at Clemson for his senior year...
Posted by: mi@mic@ne | January 10, 2017 at 10:13 AM
When the fire CMR posts started hitting 6-7 games into this season I realized patience was officially over.
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 09:54 AM
Speaks to the patience we gotta have.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 09:26 AM
Hmmm....
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 09:37 AM
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Canes fans don't have patience any more lol
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:47 AM
Speaks to the patience we gotta have.
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 09:26 AM
Hmmm....
Posted by: Go Canes! | January 10, 2017 at 09:37 AM
This was on CIS. Interesting the trajectory to get to a ship. Even in his third year, with his recruits, Dabo had a losing season. Speaks to the patience we gotta have.
Dabo since taking over at Clemson:
2008: 7-6 (took over mid season)
2009: 9-5
2010: 6-7
2011: 10-4
2012: 11-2
2013: 11-2
2014: 10-3
2015: 14-1 Runner up
2016: 14-1 National Champions
4-4 overall against FSU
Since his reset year in 2010, Clemson has beaten:
LSU
Auburn (twice)
UGA
Ohio State
Oklahoma (twice)
Alabama
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 09:26 AM
ACC power rankings for 2017. Seems right.
3. Miami Hurricanes
Is this the year Miami finally turns the corner and plays for an ACC title? We’re believers. Even without Brad Kaaya, the Canes return Mark Walton, Ahmmon Richards and a young defense that could be one of the best in the country. With so much transition elsewhere in the Coastal Division, this has to be Miami’s year.
http://www.espn.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/97877/accs-way-too-early-2017-power-rankings-florida-state-aims-high
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:17 AM
We finished #20 in the AP
Posted by: 1mg of Epi | January 10, 2017 at 04:03 AM
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Laughably 2 spots BEHIND WVU, who we owned.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | January 10, 2017 at 09:11 AM
I got this.
Posted by: 86Cane | January 09, 2017 at 11:30 PM
Jus sayin...
Posted by: 86Cane | January 10, 2017 at 08:38 AM