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January 22, 2017

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Go Canes!

Great coach, up and coming team, ugly loss.

Go Canes!

And imo healthy Linder and McDermott both start next year.

86Cane

I have this strange feeling injury hinders performance... Maybe?

Posted by: CoCane | January 22, 2017 at 09:29 AM

#SarcasmDetectorAlert

I'll give you that but STILL, I am done with average. I want to see some dominating run blocking by a UM OL just once more before I die PLEASE. Has not been seen in these parts for a good while. Our poor RBs get hit at or behind the LOS way too often. I am not happy with the OL or the OL coach to be honest.

IJS

Herbieibis

That's what happens when u have average backs, who don't hit the holes hard plus combine that with average talent up front. There is also the offensive scheme, which to The Herb is out dated. Said this before on this site and will say it again, in college the pro style is easier to defend, than the spread. If we are going to be a pro style oh, u had better have sum upper eshalon oh linemen to execute it and bigger backs. We can't get enough of those type linemen. Most high schools run spread or wing tee, flex bone type offenses.

BigWindyCane1

OL has been struggling all season. OL was the weakest position group on the team all season, and it stemmed from the lack of true quality offensive tackles and the recruitment and playing "Keho's best five" concept IMO. I was never a big fan of that concept in today's game, especially trying to run a pro style offense. Stoutland was a great OL coach, but Keoho had different ideas about who to recruit and how to coach them. I think that is why his college teammate (CMR) decided to move in a different direction.

Perhaps a mobile QB will help on pass protection but run blocking must improve dramatically. Depth will create competition, so the better players will emerge as starters and their backups will push the starters to get better.

Linder was physically whipped on many plays last season, but he was also hurt and it effected his play. Linder knows that he must consistently bring his A game if he is going to start.

OL competition this spring and fall will be as interesting as the QB competition IMO. The personality, direction and future of the offense will be defined by both competitions.

CaneRock

I don't think Kehoe & Coley were ever on the same page. Seemed like Kehoe's OLs were better under Fisch. I sensed the same thing with Richt & Searles, although it seemed to smooth out the last 5 games of the year.

Go Canes!

We've had far better than average backs here. Anyone who disagrees needs only to look at Walton's numbers compared to just about any other ACC back. He had the lowest number of rushes of any back with 1000 yds in the conference.

Just imagine what he could do with a proper line.

As usual Windy has the absolute proper perspective.

CaneRock

We're fine at OT, everybody we have there or that's coming in is a prototype...I'm good with whomever wins both spots.

OG is where we need to beef up at, need more guys that look like Kendrick Norton in there, those tweener OG/DT guys.

86Cane

OL competition this spring and fall will be as interesting as the QB competition IMO. The personality, direction and future of the offense will be defined by both competitions.

Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | January 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM

There IT is right there.

This is why you are the MOST respected blogger on The Space.

fmcane

I believe those huge prototype offensive tackles are a bit dated now. The name of the game on the edge is speed. While arm length will always be important, flexibility and speed into the pass set will be at a premium moving into the future. I would take a guy that was slimmer built but had good flex at the knees, good feet, and long arms over a road grader type.

I like my guards to be the maulers that like to get down hill but can still move and look for the center to be the most athletic of the bunch and obviously the most cerebral. What say you space? Would ya'll rather see big heavy prototype tackles or the guys that can move and bend on the edge?

1mg Of Epi

Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | January 22, 2017 at 10:53 AM

The run blocking wasn't good, but dont forget we were running into stacked boxes all season too

86Cane

FM...I like the idea of smaller more mobile offensive tackles. Big, heavy, slow footed tackles with poor balance get run around all day long. Maybe a guy like Stan Dobard may have made a good tackle?

86Cane

Facebook is on complete MELTDOWN today.

Avoid at ALL costs!

1mg Of Epi

Facebook is on complete MELTDOWN today.

Avoid at ALL costs!

Posted by: 86Cane | January 22, 2017 at 12:48 PM

What's this week hysteria about?

1mg Of Epi

This is why you are the MOST respected blogger on The Space.

Posted by: 86Cane | January 22, 2017 at 11:49 AM

Here here

VA Cane

I am not happy with the OL or the OL coach to be honest.
Im just saying too......we have not had a good OL and I damn well know....since KD11....and they let us down in the Fiesta Fiasco!!!!

I am tired of beer bellies, cheeseburger handles, soft shoe shufflers (Thanks George Harrison) lazy pulls, sloppy reach blocks....its pathetic!!!

I promise you guys....you get me an offer...I could whip that line into shape fast or they would quit!!! I am a hateful taskmaster with my line..I work their butts off..but they love what they achieve!!!....and they achieve big time....but lazy never cuts it and never will, WE WILL NEVER BE ELITE AGAIN UNTIL WE SOLVE OUR OL PROBLEM!!!

you let me get them on Freddie in that heat....you talk about serious pick them feet up run blocks, mean ass pass blocks....and people who hate defenders....and want to hurt them....thats why I win on a regular basis....my OL id the lead DOG!!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO said Rick Flair!!!!!

great thought Boss!!!

86Cane

What's this week hysteria about?

Posted by: 1mg Of Epi | January 22, 2017 at 01:28 PM

Apparently, there was some sort of election that happened recently. I must have missed it?

VA Cane

Speed footwork agility power strength....powerful arms....you punch and jab now.....and linemen have always been pretty smart....teachable.....and i want haters....aggressive mean......you have to want to beat people down for 4 quarters...lean not heavy and fat....if you guys could see my linemen....14 14 in lower level Jrs and Srs on my HS team....and even my college guys....no fat lean mean and learning to hate their enemies....the D!!!!!

VA Cane

All of them need to be leaner....physical strength flexibility aggression head on swivel....and pick the feet up....move quick I have some big guys....I have no fat guys....but all of my guys...even the more mellow guys....I can get that aggression and go mentality going...HOW? I coach them every day...we are on the sled...on Freddie...on the boards one on one....and working as a group on fundamentals and technique I coach them...and know what it takes...linemen are a specialty you got to coach them as a group and individually...i love my big guys....they are THE key to my O...without them we do not go or win all the titles we have earned....starts up front for sure!!!

CMR needs to figure that out....I expect improvement this year...or we will be another 8-4 minor bowl invite...you dont get to the NC with a crappy line....and face it...our line was not great....averge at best...does not cut it!!

SinisterCane

And imo healthy Linder and McDermott both start next year.

Posted by: Go Canes! | January 22, 2017 at 09:43 AM

I respectfully disagree, both Linder and McDermott when healthy were average at best and they were the cause of most of the Olines problems.The consensus was that the CANEZ had too many OG's and no true OT's, I just don't see CMR trottin' out the same exact oline from last yr.

Go Canes!

This is why you are the MOST respected blogger on The Space.

Posted by: 86Cane | January 22, 2017 at 11:49 AM

💯

VA Cane

All of our real issues were on the offense....run run run GA 80s-90s...and at times we ran good....but not on a regular basis....and BK took some licks....we have to step up ...The D is ready and will be good again...we have the right coaches on D....on O...the line coaching and work with individuals is poor so the line is poor, the run game avg the pass blocking average...the overall ATTACK AGRESSION....is well....average...and the OC is average....thats why you go 8-4....and play in a minor bowl...instead of the playoffs....thats the one the only one that matters...if I went 8-4 i would decline a bowl.....cause it really does not matter it does not count...I want that title shot....JMO

1mg Of Epi

What's this week hysteria about?

Posted by: 1mg Of Epi | January 22, 2017 at 01:28 PM

Apparently, there was some sort of election that happened recently. I must have missed it?

Posted by: 86Cane | January 22, 2017 at 01:37 PM

Made the mistake of getting on... don't worry about the Prez. Apparently a superstorm is gonna kill us anyway.

Go Canes!

Posted by: 1mg Of Epi | January 22, 2017 at 02:04 PMIf

Expect hurricane force winds in S Fla?

Wtf is going on?

Go Canes!

Severe weather with possibility of hurricane-strength winds heading for South Florida sunsent.nl/2jmmE43

thirstybuzzardcane

Facebook is on complete MELTDOWN today.

Avoid at ALL costs!

Posted by: 86Cane | January 22, 2017 at 12:48 PM


What's facebook?

CaneRock

LOL @ people sayin' they want Slim Jims & Ninja Turtles at OG & OT.

CaneRock

I respectfully disagree, both Linder and McDermott when healthy were average at best and they were the cause of most of the Olines problems.

Posted by: SinisterCane | January 22, 2017 at 01:49 PM

Exactly...hell, McDermott looked as awful as Gall at times.

But I disagree with this notion that we didn't have "true OTs"...Darling,Odogwu, & St.Louis look like prototypes...ditto with Donaldson coming in.

Maybe our OL coach isn't a "true" OL coach?

SinisterCane

Posted by: CaneRock | January 22, 2017 at 02:28 PM

I think Donaldson and Brown takeover the OT's positions. Darling,Odogwu, & St.Louis look Tarzan and play like Jane at the Tackle position but do believe Darling can become top tier OG

CaneRock

Odogwu was playing well till He got hurt.

Darling seems like a good candidate to kick inside, but I still like His potential at either T spot.

And St.Louis doesn't even remotely look like an OG IMHO...that kid's legs go up to His ribs.

We need some athletic girth on the inside...need some dudes that won't get thrown back 5 ft. every other play...some Orlando Franklin & Brandon Washington types.

CaneRock

And I like Donaldson, but He may need to RS.

SinisterCane

Posted by: CaneRock | January 22, 2017 at 04:16 PM

That dude a day 1 starter

VA Cane

He may have to start with our OL.....hes a nice prospect for sure!!!

CaneRock

Jones is abusing Gunther.

Go Canes!

Both Linder and McDermott have played while recovering from major injuries.

We'll see what those two and Sunny can do next year if all are 100%.

BEERicane

Jones is abusing Gunther.

Posted by: CaneRock | January 22, 2017 at 05:00 PM

Did you see what's dez did to him last week? That guy is awful.

Go Canes!

Getting beaten by Dez and Jones?

What the hell have those two ever done.

Herbieibis

Nobody said anything about Keough when we won 5 ships. Oh line was better when he was coaching it. By the way Walton ain't no super back. He's good but he ain't in Cooks category and that's what we need. We need a back that attacks the hole.

SinisterCane

Kai-Leon Herbert de-commits from Michigan

Going to come down to Miami and Florida. Maybe we can steal one from the gators.

BigWindyCane1

Kai-Leon Herbert de-commits from Michigan

Going to come down to Miami and Florida. Maybe we can steal one from the gators.

Posted by: SinisterCane | January 22, 2017 at 05:26 PM

Wow! That would be another huge pickup by CMR and his staff. This recruiting class could shape up to be a great one

Go Canes!

He's good but he ain't in Cooks category and that's what we need. We need a back that attacks the hole.

Posted by: Herbieibis | January 22, 2017 at 05:26 PM


Cook's category has about one dude in it. Cook.

That doesn't mean Walton is just good or ok. He's a hell of a back in his own right and had a huge season.

I'll take nearly 1200 yards and 14 TDs on only 200 carries behind a thin, injured, below average offensive line.

86Cane

and i want haters....aggressive mean......you have to want to beat people down for 4 quarters...

Posted by: VA Cane | January 22, 2017 at 01:38 PM

THIS!

Offensive lineman are often times way to passive and soft. I want my OL to think like the DL and whoop dat azz.

86Cane

I respectfully disagree, both Linder and McDermott when healthy were average at best and they were the cause of most of the Olines problems.

Posted by: SinisterCane | January 22, 2017 at 01:49 PM

Agree 100%.

CaneRock

Is Searles the guy at 1:32?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-g88c4KCb0&t=198s

Go Canes!

C'mon CMR

https://www.canesinsight.com/articles/canes-recruiting/3433

Malcolm Bunche

Expect hurricane force winds in S Fla?

Wtf is going on?

Posted by: Go Canes! | January 22, 2017 at 02:07 PM

Getting squally in the 352. Worse than that hurricane Matt.

Tom Sorrels

From the Villages to Daytona or basically up SR 44.

roachcane77

He's good but he ain't in Cooks category and that's what we need. We need a back that attacks the hole.
Posted by: Herbieibis | January 22, 2017 at 05:26 PM

Yeah... I would take Cook over Walton too, but even Cook would have been stymied behind our OL. I respect Walton for all he was able to accomplish with the poor OL in front of him. (It's hard to "attack the hole" when there's no hole... )

Different offensive strategy and playcalling would also help. CMR showed "flashes" of "getting it." But all too often reverted to non-creative run, run, pass, punt.

I sadly STILL don't see CMR giving up the OC job. (sigh... )

WWIN

Posted by: CaneRock | January 22, 2017 at 06:43 PM

That's him

CaneRock

Posted by: Go Canes! | January 22, 2017 at 06:55 PM

Might be the best NSD since 08'...better.

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