Over the last 15 years there have been many highs and lows when it comes to University of Miami football recruiting. It is hard to argue against the fact that the ebb and flow of talent being brought into Coral Gables on an annual basis has had a direct impact on the product on the field on any given Saturday.
Our friend TonyCane, the Canespace resident statistician and recruiting guru, summed it up by the numbers recently in a well thought out and researched blog comment. It was such good work that we brought it here to the front page spotlight where it belongs.
The four year period between 2002 and 2005 was clearly a solid and steady high period while the four year period between 2013 and 2016 is seen as a consistently low period. Single year anomalies included the 2011 class that ranked among the weakest while the 2008 class ranked among the best.
Here is an example of what Coach Richt is accomplishing. We're still 10 months away from closing out the Class of 2018 and already it is clearly the best since 2008. Certainly, if this class holds together, it could be really, really special.
Four/Five Star Players in Recruiting Classes:
2002: 15 overall (1 *****)
2003: 14 overall (3 *****)
2004: 12 overall (3 *****)
2005: 13 overall (2 *****)
2006: 10 overall
2007: 08 overall (1 *****)
2008: 16 overall (2 *****)
2009: 10 overall (1 *****)
2010: 07 overall (1 *****)
2011: 02 overall
2012: 10 overall (2 *****)
2013: 09 overall
2014: 09 overall (1 *****)
2015: 07 overall
2016: 07 overall
2017: 10 overall
2018: 13 overall (1 *****)
And on the other side, this tells the same story in a different light:
Three/Two Star Players in Recruiting Classes:
2002: 07 overall (1 **)
2003: 11 overall (1 **)
2004: 15 overall (6 **)
2005: 04 overall (1 **)
2006: 10 overall (3 **)
2007: 10 overall (2 **)
2008: 16 overall (8 **)
2009: 09 overall (1 **)
2010: 22 overall (4 **)
2011: 16 overall (2 **, 2 unranked)
2012: 23 overall
2013: 10 overall (2 **)
2014: 18 overall (1 **)
2015: 12 overall
2016: 11 overall (1 **)
2017: 14 overall (1 **)
2018: 05 overall
It's amazing in retrospect to see how the talent (on paper) flipped between 2009 and 2012. Sure coaching matters, but we all know that it takes talent on the field to win football games.
If the Hurricanes can manage a solid season (10-2?) while breaking in a new starting QB in 2017, then Coach Richt will be able to not only keep the 2018 class together but even improve it. That is a welcome thought to UM fans and a downright scary thought to the rest of college football.
What that means is by 2019 we could witness the next period of devastating CAT 5 Hurricanes on the football field and a return to the 1983-1989 period of greatness and maybe even the 2001-2004 NFL draft pick producing machine that is unmatched in college football history.
We like that. Yeah, we like that a lot!
5 Star blogger.
Posted by: Go Canes! | April 25, 2017 at 02:22 PM
I'll tell U what, that TonyCane is a 5 Star researcher and statistician!
Posted by: SOUP | April 25, 2017 at 02:24 PM
Yep that's who I was talking about.
Quality stuff always!
Posted by: Go Canes! | April 25, 2017 at 02:26 PM
Sean Allison told the Miami Herald late Tuesday morning, about two hours after the younger Allison met with UM coach Mark Richt to tell him his decision, that his son “is a pocket passer, just like Mark said,’’ but that he believes the Hurricanes are heading to a more dual-threat, running-type quarterback system.
“He loves Miami. We all love Miami, but the whole direction of the program is they want a running quarterback – a dual-threat quarterback,’’ Allison’s father said. “They want a different wrinkle in their offense.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article146631669.html
Posted by: CaneRock | April 25, 2017 at 02:32 PM
Look at Terrance with the dope UM fisherman hat.
Posted by: CaneRock | April 25, 2017 at 02:33 PM
Look at Terrance with the dope UM fisherman hat.
Posted by: CaneRock | April 25, 2017 at 02:33 PM
If i told you that Terrance has MORE UM gear than the UM bookstore and All Canes COMBINED would U believe me?
Well U should!
There are days when deciding which UM gear to put on takes him about 30 minutes prep time and a series of questions we have to answer. Life with TSully ain't neva EZ but it ain't neva dull either!
Posted by: SOUP | April 25, 2017 at 02:44 PM
Top 10....
Posted by: raizecane | April 25, 2017 at 02:44 PM
Thanks Rock!
Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | April 25, 2017 at 02:45 PM
Thanks Soup and Facts.
Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | April 25, 2017 at 02:46 PM
TonyCane is definitely a 5 star Researcher of UM Recruiting and Stats. Great job Brother Nero.
Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | April 25, 2017 at 02:48 PM
KYCane rocking the fly Adidas Canes Replica Jersey!
Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | April 25, 2017 at 03:48 PM
Posted by: CGNC | April 25, 2017 at 01:52 PM
what up CGNC?? Sounds like U r doing great. New FL lifestyle N all!
Posted by: DallasTX Cane | April 25, 2017 at 04:12 PM
osted by: Go Canes! | April 25, 2017 at 11:18 AM
Not so fast my friend...
Rosier and Allison have not played in games to say if they can or can not do what Kaaya did.
Posted by: WWIN | April 25, 2017 at 04:50 PM
Allison? He gone.
Posted by: SOUP | April 25, 2017 at 04:57 PM
Statisticians are for winners.Thanks Tony
Posted by: Old Skool | April 25, 2017 at 05:41 PM
Allison is gone like Bobby
Posted by: Old Skool | April 25, 2017 at 07:08 PM
OGV or should I say Cap'n Cum Breath
Posted by: 🐜🌀 | April 25, 2017 at 07:57 PM
Posted by: WWIN | April 25, 2017 at 04:50 PM
Really?
Posted by: Go Canes! | April 25, 2017 at 09:56 PM
I'm sure this has already been posted.
http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/19212438/which-college-football-programs-produce-best-worst-nfl-players
Posted by: Sy-Cane | April 26, 2017 at 12:14 AM
This article puts the Allison transfer in perspective: If it seems like high-profile quarterback recruits transfer at an unusually high rate, well, it’s because they do. Using 247Sports’ composite rankings, FOX Sports researched the careers of every Top 50 quarterback recruit that signed from 2011-14.
TOP 50 QB RECRUITS, 2011-14
Stars Transferred Started early* Stayed anyway
4/5-star 46.9 % 33.3 % 28.1 %
3-star 52.9 % 12.5 % 33.7 %
TOTAL 50 % 22.5 % 31 %
Top 50 based on 247Sports Composite rankings
* — started early = first or second season of eligibility
Numbers don’t add up to 100 % because some early starters also transferred.
Exactly half — 100 of 200 — transferred from their original school.
Which means there’s a 1-in-2 chance Gatorade Player of the Year Tate Martell will leave Ohio State roughly halfway through his time there. It’s 50-50 whether five-star Texas A&M early enrollee Kellen Mond finishes his career in College Station. (Aggies fans are conditioned at this point to seeing touted quarterbacks transfer.)
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/signing-day-recruits-quarterback-transfer-clemson-hunter-johnson-alabama-tua-tagovailoa-michigan-dylan-mccaffrey-013017
Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | April 26, 2017 at 01:07 AM
Good stuff BWC1
Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | April 26, 2017 at 01:21 AM
I think the line is "if you're not starting, you're departing." Go insomniacs.
Posted by: Old Skool | April 26, 2017 at 03:41 AM
Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | April 26, 2017 at 01:07 AM
Good stuff Windy. Outside of special teams QB is the only position in football where 3-4 guys don't see action every game.
If you get beat out you're riding the pines all game, every game, perhaps permanently. A lot of them simply don't have any other choice.
Posted by: Go Canes! | April 26, 2017 at 06:02 AM
N'kosi's Head Coach
“Will he be ready? I think he’s definitely going to be ready, there’s no question about that,” Farmer said. “He’s a kid that can play, is a leader. He’s a kid that you’ll find out he has a lot of skills at that quarterback position. He can do the RPO’s (run pass option), his decision making is outstanding. He knows how to read a defense. He throws the ball, is so relaxed. It’s something that I can describe as it’s like it’s something he’s been doing all his life, like learning to walk.”
Perry currently weighs 204 pounds, but it’s a strong 204.
“He’s benching 275 right now,” Farmer said. “He’s put on weight and he’s strong, stronger than people think.”
Since his team’s season ended Farmer says he sees Perry continuing to make big strides.
“Oh, yeah, just looking at him throwing the ball now he’s gotten better,” Farmer said. “He’s been doing a lot of throwing, is out there practicing as if it’s a game. He’s doing all the things he has to in order to get better.”
Posted by: SinisterCane | April 26, 2017 at 09:18 AM
^^^ 204 pounds???
Posted by: CoCane | April 26, 2017 at 09:29 AM
Perry currently weighs 204 pounds, but it’s a strong 204.
Posted by: SinisterCane | April 26, 2017 at 09:18 AM
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Weird. Thought he was 165....
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 26, 2017 at 09:30 AM
^^^ 204 pounds???
Posted by: CoCane | April 26, 2017 at 09:29 AM
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I mean, he IS 6'4-6'5
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 26, 2017 at 09:30 AM
Weird. Thought he was 165....
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 26, 2017 at 09:30 AM
Peanut Butters sandwiches maybe????????
Posted by: SinisterCane | April 26, 2017 at 09:34 AM
Peanut Butters sandwiches maybe????????
Posted by: SinisterCane | April 26, 2017 at 09:34 AM
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Protein shakes, steaks and baked potato is more like it.
Oh, and a lot of heavy weights. I'm impressed he can bench 275
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 26, 2017 at 09:40 AM
Mr Perry I've been 204 pounds. I know 204 pounds.
You sir are not 204 pounds.
Posted by: Go Canes! | April 26, 2017 at 09:42 AM
Here:
https://twitter.com/KosiPerry/status/852283731415113728/photo/1
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 26, 2017 at 09:42 AM
Mr Perry I've been 204 pounds. I know 204 pounds.
You sir are not 204 pounds.
Posted by: Go Canes! | April 26, 2017 at 09:42 AM
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Around 6'4", I'm guessing 190, but he sure as shit ain't 165.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 26, 2017 at 09:43 AM
I'm 6'0, 192 so he for sure is 190+
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 26, 2017 at 09:44 AM
Well, this is interesting:
proCanes.com @proCanes 4m4 minutes ago
Hearing future #NFL #proCane DB Andrian Colbert probably get drafted before Corn Elder.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 26, 2017 at 09:57 AM
In that pic compared to Winston. Perry looks 6'3-6'4 190-195.
Yeah. He's the game 1 starter...
Posted by: CoCane | April 26, 2017 at 10:07 AM
In that pic compared to Winston. Perry looks 6'3-6'4 190-195.
Yeah. He's the game 1 starter...
Posted by: CoCane | April 26, 2017 at 10:07 AM
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BINGO!
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 26, 2017 at 10:13 AM
Pending physical, Marshawn Lynch is gonna be a Raider.
Posted by: CaneRock | April 26, 2017 at 10:27 AM
ESPN firing TONS of employees, including 17 year vet, Ed Werder.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 26, 2017 at 10:32 AM
Really?
Posted by: Go Canes! | April 25, 2017 at 09:56 PM
YES! Some players are practice players and some players are game players... So just bcuz a player is not producing at practice does NOT mean he won't produce in the game.
Posted by: WWIN | April 26, 2017 at 10:43 AM
Posted by: Go Canes! | April 26, 2017 at 09:42 AM
I agree, He looks more like 185-190 in that pic.
Posted by: CaneRock | April 26, 2017 at 10:58 AM
But IDGAD how much He weighs, If He plays, long as He's big enough to throw bombs to Thomas, He'd be big enough for me.
Posted by: CaneRock | April 26, 2017 at 11:00 AM
ESPN firing TONS of employees, including 17 year vet, Ed Werder.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 26, 2017 at 10:32 AM
Best news all day I hope Espn collapse to the bottom of Hell nest to SI
Posted by: SinisterCane | April 26, 2017 at 11:06 AM
WHY Espn should Drop Sports
Posted by: SinisterCane | April 26, 2017 at 11:07 AM
Facts. Just be ready to play.
Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | April 26, 2017 at 11:09 AM
Lamar Jackson survived all of last year running all over the place and he's basically a stick figure.
All kidding aside, his weight worries me much less than his inexperience.
Posted by: Go Canes! | April 26, 2017 at 11:31 AM
Best news all day I hope Espn collapse to the bottom of Hell nest to SI
Posted by: SinisterCane | April 26, 2017 at 11:06 AM
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Yes indeed.....but in addition to the on air personalities getting cut, they need to let go of program directors too or whoever comes up with content. The 6 PM programs is awful. They just plain suck
Posted by: raizecane | April 26, 2017 at 12:04 PM
WR U? Most WR drafted in Common Draft Era (1967):
40- Miami & USC
38- Florida
37- Ohio State, Tennessee
33- San Diego State
32- LSU
31- FSU
Posted by: Go Canes! | April 26, 2017 at 12:05 PM
Posted by: raizecane | April 26, 2017 at 12:04 PM
ESPN lost me long ago...
everyone thinks they are a sports psychologist. They want to know what Brady thinks Manning thinks when Manning says Brady is like Brees. Its soap opera BS, they need to get to in depth tactics and strategy. Stop trying to appeal to casual fans.
Posted by: Dude | April 26, 2017 at 12:23 PM
Well, this is interesting:
proCanes.com @proCanes 4m4 minutes ago
Hearing future #NFL #proCane DB Andrian Colbert probably get drafted before Corn Elder.
Posted by: Ohio_Cane | April 26, 2017 at 09:57 AM
More of a tribute to work and strides that Colbert, who has the NFL measurables. If Colbert is selected higher, it is not a knock on Corn, who should be drafted. Malek Young, Dee Delaney and Jhavonte Dean are looking at Colbert and thinking that Rumph will get us ready for the NFL too.
If Colbert gets drafted, that could be two CBs drafted, and could help the Canes in recruiting as well.
Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | April 26, 2017 at 01:07 PM
Posted by: WWIN | April 26, 2017 at 10:43 AM
True. Don't have to be good ALL the time. Have to be good when IT's time.
Posted by: CGNC | April 26, 2017 at 01:24 PM