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May 13, 2018

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Terrance Sullivan

Boom Baby!

Go Canes!!

Wut?

Happy Mother’s Day to all the moms out there.

roachcane77

Springtime Canes are kickin' butt!

Terrance Sullivan

Yes Yes Yes

Terrance Sullivan

Canes Sweep The Castrated Turkeys in Blackturd 12-8 they are now 25-25 and 14-13 in ACC play play Stetson at home on Tuesday and 3 game Season Finale at Home against Boston College!

JCane

12-8 victory was with 4 in the 10th and a very rare road sweep. Not pretty, but gotta like.

UMike

Lindard was the anchor leg for the 4x100 relay...40.07, 5th fastest in school history. Kid is fast!

Herbieibis

Miami should never be this sad in baseball, needing a sweep over VA. Tech. We lost another top verbal We and now have lost 2- 5's and a 4. This is what needs to stop losing the top talent guys. It is early and we can still reel them back in BUT!

86Cane

Lingard is Fast? Yes, he is smoking FAST!

His Royal Dudeness

2020 5 star Burton decommits. Crootin.

TonyCane

With DB Keontra Smith committing today we are now up to 6 four star players for the 2019 class. That's 5 four star players in the last five weeks.

86Cane

Do STARS matter?

How many did UCF have when they beat Auburn?

86Cane

TonyCane...can you please research how many 4-5 star players UCF had and how many Auburn had when they played last year in the bowl game?

TonyCane

TonyCane...can you please research how many 4-5 star players UCF had and how many Auburn had when they played last year in the bowl game?

Posted by: 86Cane | May 13, 2018 at 10:15 PM

Looking at who actually stayed, who qualified, who transferred in, and who left early would take far too long, so let's stick with who committed to each school between 2014 - 2017:

UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL FLORIDA
5 Star Players: None
4 Star Players: 5
3 Star Players: 43
2 Star Players: 29
0 Star Players: 2

UNIVERSITY OF AUBURN
5 Star Players: 7
4 Star Players: 50
3 Star Players: 24
2 Star Players: 8
0 Star Players: None

Obviously there was a very strong gap in talent, even allowing for the fact that Auburn probably had a higher transfer rate than UCF. Frost won on coaching and potentially a disinterested Auburn squad. In UCF's minds, they were playing for an undefeated season and a "national championship". In Auburn's mind...they were playing UCF in a bowl game.

Clearly however both coaching and strong talent are generally needed. The simple fact is that Miami will be fielding it's most talent team on paper in quite some time:

Isolating to five and four star players on the roster each season, removing players that did not qualify:

2006: Five Stars: 4, Four Stars: 30
2007: Five Stars: 2, Four Stars: 24
2008: Five Stars: 3, Four Stars: 28
2009: Five Stars: 4, Four Stars: 37
2010: Five Stars: 4, Four Stars: 35
2011: Five Stars: 3, Four Stars: 25
2012: Five Stars: 3, Four Stars: 18
2013: Five Stars: 3, Four Stars: 19
2014: Five Stars: 3, Four Stars: 19
2015: Five Stars: 3, Four Stars: 25
2016: Five Stars: 2, Four Stars: 25
2017: Five Stars: 2, Four Stars: 27
2018: Five Stars: 3, Four Stars: 35

BigWindyCane1

Good stuff TonyCane. Certainly, on average, the more 4 and 5 star players you have, the more you should win. However, coaching and player development plays an important role, and UCF does underscore that point.

DMoney had a pretty good article on this point. DMoney pointed out that every year, a bunch of 2-star and 3-star recruits get picked in the first round. This year, DMoney did some research to find out: (1) why they were underrated, and (2) what Canes fans can learn from their evaluations. DMoney noticed four general themes that emerged in his evaluations:

* Played multiple positions in HS

* Weight doesn’t matter (height and movement skills are more important)

* Pay attention to bloodlines

* Motor is a must

DMoney notices that "three-star Greg Roussseau checks a lot of these boxes."

https://www.canesinsight.com/news/.5401/

86Cane

Tony...thanks for doing that. Nice research.

I agree that it takes talent and coaching. To some extent, great talent can hide poor coaching and great coaching can overcome some talent disparity.

One aspect of great coaching is teaching technique and the playbook. Another is game planning. This is where coaches typically fall into two categories.

Terrance Sullivan

Great stuff TonyCane!

Go Canes!!

Garvin, Ford and Pickney were rated 3 Stars by a lot of services.

Same with Derrick Smith and Amari Carter last year and those two are going to be legit beasts.

As Windy said, so was Rosseau this year.

So when you see a UCF team full of 3 Stars made up mostly of Florida kids, there is likely a lot of talent there.

You can all go back to man crushing on Frost now, just wanted to point that out.

Old Skool

Supreme Court just legalized sports gambling on a state by state basis.

Go Canes!!

Bookies around America putting their houses on the market:

BREAKING: Supreme Court strikes down federal anti sports gambling law, gives states go-ahead to allow betting on sports.

86Cane

You can all go back to man crushing on Frost now, just wanted to point that out.

Posted by: Go Canes!! | May 14, 2018 at 09:52 AM

I wonder if Scott Frost is married?

86Cane

Supreme Court just legalized sports gambling on a state by state basis.

Posted by: Old Skool | May 14, 2018 at 10:42 AM

Interesting. What will results be?

Old Skool

In other news ...

The New England Patriots are reportedly hiring martial arts expert Joe Kim to bolster the team's pass rush.

Kim will reportedly help the team's defensive lineman and outside linebackers work on their hand-to-hand combat in pass-rushing situations. In his career, he's filled a similar role for the Browns (three times), Redskins, Bears, Chiefs, Giants, Broncos, Bills, Packers, Cowboys, Dolphins and the Penn State Nittany Lions.

Old Skool

ESPN expects New Jersey followed by
Delaware, Mississippi, New York, Pennsylvania and West Virginia to quick enable sports betting. I would imagine dog and horse track owners as well as Indian tribes are suddenly increasing their lobbying budgets in Florida.

If you look at Germany and England, sports betting parlors are common in the cities.

Old Skool

Meanwhile, Mark Cuban estimates the value of each pro sports team just doubled today.

Go Canes!!

Posted by: Old Skool | May 14, 2018 at 01:15 PM

If I had to guess you’ll be able to bet on a New Years bowl game at the two Hard Rocks and any dog/horse track/poker room in Florida.

Old Skool

Well this could get interesting ...

The principles announced in Monday’s decision may have implications for other kinds of federal laws. When the case was argued in December, Justice Sotomayor said some federal regulation of marijuana could be threatened by a ruling that allows sports betting.

86Cane

Don't get your hopes up too "high". LOL

Terrance Sullivan

Lol hahaha.

86Cane

I would like to make the first two bets now that it is legal:

1. I bet that WWIN's bestie and second cousin once removed, Malik Rosier, is NOT the starting QB come Fall.

2. I bet that Go Canes has a framed poster of Mark Richt over his bed.

Terrance Sullivan

Lol 86.

WWIN

Posted by: 86Cane | May 14, 2018 at 09:48 PM

1. You lose! Answer: he'll start

2. You lose! Answer: Al Golden poster

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: WWIN | May 14, 2018 at 11:03 PM

Al Golden is still in the frame, covered by the new Mark Richt poster.

WWIN

You right HRD... Soupster breaks even

86Cane

All I ever wanted in life was to break even.

#MissionAccomplished

Go Canes!!

Posted by: WWIN | May 14, 2018 at 11:03 PM

That's right,still pitching the story that I never, ever, ever once criticized Golden and always said everything he did was perfect!

You have that framed next to the WW quarterback rating system, where completing half your passes is great football but hitting 23 of 24 with 4 TDs and no picks is a failing grade.

"Because statistics can be deceiving"

Old Skool

So is there an over-under on St. Thomas to win next year's state championship?

Bill Bradley says that in the Court ruling that there's nothing in it to prevent gambling on high school games.

The other innovation to expect is in game gambling. With an Internet connection, you'll be able to be on the next play, pitch or free throw.


Go Canes!!

Willie’s gonna get smoked:

Florida State vs. Boise State Aug. 31, 2019 season opener in Jacksonville will be officially announced at Wednesday news conference

Terrance Sullivan

Ha on the same day we have the Gators in Orlando!

86Cane

Ha the same day we SLAY the Gators in Orlando!

FIFY

SinisterCane

Posted by: 86Cane | May 15, 2018 at 08:15 PM

Hopefully NoO will have this QB thingy solved 2019

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: 86Cane | May 15, 2018 at 08:15 PM

We will beat the Gators by 14 in 2019, vault it. Manny Diaz is creating as good a defense as you can, if Richt can get the O where it needs to be, solid, we are going to win a bunch more games.

86Cane

if Richt can get the O where it needs to be, solid, we are going to win a bunch more games.

Posted by: His Royal Dudeness | May 15, 2018 at 09:12 PM

And therein lies the conundrum.

Herbieibis

We have 3 problems: one, play calling, two that O-Line and three, QB other than that everything should be graveyard!

Go Canes!!

Posted by: Herbieibis | May 16, 2018 at 12:37 AM

How would you rank them in order of importance?

His Royal Dudeness

Posted by: Go Canes!! | May 16, 2018 at 06:48 AM

I know you didnt ask me, but...

1) Offensive line. A monster offensive line is the most important thing in football.
2) Play calling.
3) QB.

Herbieibis

Go, Qb. Got to have field manager, who is smart and doesn't turn the ball over.
Next play calling. No matter how bad or average the Line is, u can mask some of those problems with play calling. Richy, in The Herb's humble opinion is to conservative at times.
Last is the O-Line. We do have some talent there and although we are lacking at the tackle position, we have enough to be good with the first 2 clicking.

Go Canes!!

I’d rank them:

1) QB
2) QB
3) QB

Well not to that extreme but outside of Bama all the other recent national champs had these guys under center:

Deshaun Watson
Cardele Jones
Jamies Winston
Cam Newton
Tim Tebow
Leak/Tebow
Vince Young

So basically unless you have the #1 recruiting class every single year for a decade straight, you better have a MAJOR difference maker at quarterback.

Terrance Sullivan

Lol so being a Turnover Machine Inaccurate QB is no problem lol. Pure Comedy.

thirstybuzzardcane

1) Offensive line. A monster offensive line is the most important thing in football.
2) Play calling.
3) QB.

Posted by: His Royal Dudeness | May 16, 2018 at 11:00 AM


I concur!

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