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July 08, 2018

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Terrance Sullivan

Lol these Rosier Stans crack me up. Thanks for showing back up tho.

SinisterCane

Lol these Rosier Stans crack me up. Thanks for showing back up tho.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | July 12, 2018 at 08:17 PM

Sigh I'VE NEVER BEEN A NOISER SUPPORTER.

I thought you had me on your hissyfit list anyway??

CaneRock

"Stans"?...LOL.

Well at least my Eminem won the ACCC & finally beat FSU & ND for the first time in a looooong time, how bout' yours?

roachcane77

Hence the big, fat, slow guy moving to Tackle.
IJS
Posted by: 58 Straight | July 12, 2018 at 06:07 PM

Ha, HA! Vindication! You kinda "called" this quite awhile ago SOUP. (You and CMR must conference call daily, huh?)

thirstybuzzardcane

LOL...Diaz's D allowed 4 straight scrub QBs to look like Joe Montana, but Rosier was our only problem.

If the coaching staff goes into the season thinking Rosier's the only one that has to improve, we in trouble.

Posted by: CaneRock | July 12, 2018 at 06:50 PM

Yup! I thought Rosier stats were pretty damn good for a first year starter. He had 3700 in total yards, I don't know about you, but that's pretty damn good!

Terrance Sullivan

Can't fix silliness.

TonyCane


For perspective, here are the stats of Miami quarterbacks in their first full year as starters:

Gino Torretta (3rd year player)
205-371, 3,095 yds, 20 TDS, 8 INTs

Frank Costa (4th year player)
107-199, 1,324 yds, 5 TDs, 5 INTs

Ryan Clement (2nd year player)
164-272, 1,638 yds, 7 TDs, 10 INTs

Scott Covington (5th year player)
159-270, 2,301 yds, 19 TDs, 8 INTs

Kenny Kelly (2nd year player)
141-259, 1,913 yds, 15 TDs, 14 INTs

Ken Dorsey (2nd year player)
188-322, 2,737 yds, 25 TDs, 5 INTs

Brock Berlin (4th year player)
211-352, 2,419 yds, 12 TDS, 17 INTs

Kyle Wright (3rd year player)
180-307, 2,403 yds, 18 TDs, 10 INTs

Robert Marve (1st year player)
116-213, 1,293 yds, 9 TDs, 13 INTs

Jacory Harris (2nd year player)
242-406, 3,352 yds, 24 TDs, 17 INTs

Stephen Morris (3rd year player)
245-421, 3,345 yds, 21 TDs, 7 INTs

Brad Kaaya (1st year player)
221-378, 3,198 yds, 26 TDs, 12 INTs

Malik Rosier (4th year player)
224-415, 3,120 yds, 26 TDs, 14 INTs

Go Canes!!

Opening ACC title odds from Bovada:

Clemson 1/2
Miami 11/5
FSU 9/1
Virginia Tech 14/1
Georgia Tech 33/1
L’Ville 33/1
NC State 33/1
Duke 50/1
Wake 50/1
BC 60/1
UNC 100/1
Pitt 100/1
Syracuse 100/1
Virginia 300/1

Go Canes!!

Manny is the biggest fraud of them ALL. Any of you Spacers would hit your 1st 15 passes against Mr. ALL Talk and No Walk Diaz

Posted by: SinisterCane | July 12, 2018 at 07:29 PM


What QBs had all these great days you’re talking about?

CaneRock

Posted by: TonyCane | July 13, 2018 at 12:41 AM

Charlie Ward's stats as a 4th year Jr. in His 1st year as a F/T starter:

204-365 55.9 22/17 2,647

Malik Rosier's stats as a 4th year Jr. in His 1st year as a F/T starter:

224-415 54.0 3,120 26/14

thirstybuzzardcane

If you count Rosier rushing yards, that's a pretty damn good, Tony Cane....IMO. Yeah, his completion percentage isn't good, but overall he was good!

thirstybuzzardcane

Like I said, the play calling didn't help Rosier! When you run the same 10 plays any defense will figure an offense out!

thirstybuzzardcane

Rosier is also playing with probably the worst offensive line we've ever had!

thirstybuzzardcane

Go back and look at the highlights. He made some amazing throws getting hit!

Go Canes!!

The problem with Rosier wasn’t a statistical one when you look at the entire season.

It was the regression from solid contributor to gigantic liablity as the season progressed.

thirstybuzzardcane

The defense was a liability as the season progressed too!

UMike

Morning spacers

thirstybuzzardcane

The last 4 games we gave up an average of 31 points. Not good!

thirstybuzzardcane

The offense was averaging 26 points the last 4 games.

thirstybuzzardcane

It was the regression from solid contributor to gigantic liablity as the season progressed.

Posted by: Go Canes!! | July 13, 2018 at 10:13 AM

Gigantic? Pretty big adjective! He wasn't a gigantic liability. We had more liabilities than just Rosier.

CaneRock

The defense was a liability as the season progressed too!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | July 13, 2018 at 10:14 AM

Exactly.

The last 4 games we gave up an average of 31 points. Not good!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | July 13, 2018 at 10:16 AM

Uh huh.

The offense was averaging 26 points the last 4 games.

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | July 13, 2018 at 10:18 AM

Yup.

CaneRock

LOL...minus the elite units that we had from 00'-02', QB play has been a gigantic liability since Dorsey left the buildin'. Let's not act like what we saw from Rosier towards the end of last year was the first time we saw a QB fade at some point in the season. Shoot, even Dorsey had 2 clunkers in 01' vs BC & VT.

Heck, Kaaya's career was book-ended by 2 seasons with 4 game losing streaks, with a season that included 2 of the worse drubbings in UM history in between.

UMike

The D looking bad the last few games may have a lot to do with the O barely staying on the field. Rosier was hot and cold last year, but if he is the same QB that finished the year and CMR is the same OC he was to finish the year we are in trouble.

We have playmakers, CMR needs to find a way to let them make plays and some how account for our suspect OL

CaneRock

UVA, Clemson, & I think Wisky's pass O started carving us up from jump. All I'm saying is nobody can come into this season resting on their laurels.

Herbieibis

The Herb says our O-Line isn't that bad. Now they aren't great but u have an average QB, which Rosier is and smallish running backs, that make it tough trying to gain yds on the inside, plus add a few injuries, so all in all it was just the inconsistency that plaqued the entire unit.
Defensively, Manny takes too many chances sometimes, when he doesn't have to. If the DEE line does their thing, we'll be OK!

UMike

Also... Rosier is really short lol...when I went to the UNC game it was really noticable to we have batted balls.

TonyCane

The thing to look at when comparing against other Miami quarterbacks is how they did on their second year. For Rozier, I would be happy if he made the same leap that Brock Berlin made in his second year. Obviously, he cannot be stagnant (Kaaya) or regress (Wright)

CGNC

Posted by: UMike | July 13, 2018 at 11:32 AM

Voice of reason

CGNC

TSully - is the green lot where the orange lot was last year?

CaneRock

Running game gotta be a lil' more consistent also.

Versus FSU,UNC, & Pitt, we rushed the ball 84 times for 187 yds....take away Rosiers 38 rushes for 76 yds., the RBs only had 46 rushes for 111 yds....pathetic.

CaneRock

The UNC performance is what really irked me...take away Rosier's 12 rushes for 20 yds., the RBs only got 39 yds. on 20 rushes.

And this was against a team that was missing like half their players!

Terrance Sullivan

CGNC yes part of it is. Green Lot Rocks! They expanded the Green Lots and Orange Lots due to demand and shrunk Blue Lots due to lack of demand.

58 Straight

Yup! I thought Rosier stats were pretty damn good for a first year starter. He had 3700 in total yards, I don't know about you, but that's pretty damn good!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | July 12, 2018 at 11:22 PM

Lies, damn lies and stats.

All you had to do was watch the games last year to see that Rosier was consistently inconsistent and horribly inaccurate way too often. The eye test NEVER lies and he failed the eye test.

58 Straight

Ha, HA! Vindication! You kinda "called" this quite awhile ago SOUP. (You and CMR must conference call daily, huh?)

Posted by: roachcane77 | July 12, 2018 at 09:30 PM

Not daily, but very often.

Between CMR and Trump calling I stay busy.

CaneRock

Rosier was consistently inconsistent and horribly inaccurate way too often.

Posted by: 58 Straight | July 13, 2018 at 01:43 PM

LOL...even His supporters would agree with this, but a lot of His haters want you to think that His 3,700 yds. & 31 TDs played no role in us winning 10 games, the ACCC for the first time since entering the Conference, & beating FSU & ND for the first time in a loooooong time.

BigWindyCane1

per Barry Jackson of Miami Herald:

JONES’ NEW CAREER

"James Jones, who played in Miami at three different levels (American High, UM and six seasons with the Heat), has risen to a high-ranking position in an NBA front office as the Phoenix Suns’ vice president of basketball operations."

This is good news. Another Canes alumn, Davon Reed, was a high second round pick last season and has had a good summer league this year. I hope he makes the team. The U is now a basketball school as well as a football school.

CaneRock

"3. Mark Richt

While Richt has done an excellent job in his two-plus season at Miami, there are still questions if he is the right man that can lead the Hurricanes to a national champion or even an ACC title.

In two years, Kirby Smart had a lot of the players Richt recruited while he was at Georgia playing for the national title against Alabama. For as much success as Richt had at Georgia, especially given the resources available to him, he still won a total of two SEC championships in his 15 seasons there. Until he can lead the Hurricanes to an ACC title or the playoff, Richt will continue to have his doubters."

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/why-miami-will-or-wont-make-college-football-playoff-2018

Go Canes!!

That may be perhaps the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

TonyCane

Kirby Smart was perfectly positioned. Yes, good coach and great recruiter...but he inherited a stocked Georgia team with two NFL running backs...and inherited that team right as the SEC entered a downturn (Florida fell apart as a serious rival)

Terrance Sullivan

Georgia 13-1 in 2002 Richt 2nd year. Georgia 13-2 in 2017 Smart 2nd year. Seems pretty much the same to me.

Go Canes!!

The idiot who wrote that article also leaves out the fact under the format CMR was under his vast majority of the time at Georgia, last years team team wouldn’t have had the chance to even be in the championship.

Under the BCS format the title game would have been Clemson and Oklahoma, with Bama and UGA on the outside looking in.

UMike

Not trying to knock CMR, but Kirby did take his players and a couple of his own classes and make it to the title game.

Not sure what the old BCS format has to do with this particular argument though. I didn't read the article but the preview was accurate IMO.


Tony I do agree he took over UGA with Florida down and really no one else in the East, but that doesn't take away from the fact they beat who they needed to while we faded at the end.

We did have a lot of injuries there at the end of the season which didn't help. I'm not ready to say CMR will win a title for us, but damn sure not ready to call him a failure. We had our best season in over a decade, but some questions still need to be answered.

Terrance Sullivan

Because in the old BCS Format the National Title Game would have been Clemson vs Oklahoma. Come On UMike. U know better than that Brotha. Georgia and Alabama would have been on the outside looking in. In case some forgot #1 Clemson #2 Oklahoma #3 Georgia #4 Alabama. So saying it no different is laughable they didn't have a 4 team playoff until 2014. So I will say it again apparently for the people in the back who aren't paying attention Georgia was 13-1 in 2002 Richt 2nd year Georgia 13-2 in 2017 Smart 2nd year. What's the difference.both didn't win the National Title. One didn't get the opportunity because their wasn't a 4 team playoff 2002, the other did get a chance via 4 team playoff 2017 did win it's semifinal game but lost Total Game.

Terrance Sullivan

We have had our best 2 seasons since 2003-2004. Going 19-7 and including a Nation Long winning streak of 15 games including ending a 10 year bowl win drought. Finally winning ACC Coastal. Beating 2 Top 10 teams in West Virginia and Notre Dame. Beating VT and FSU. Totally Rejuvenating the Program after over the previous 10 year bleep Show of Golden(5), Shannon (4) and Coker (1) years. 2016 we had lack of depth as well as 2017. For the First Time since like 2004 we have legitimate depth and all around talent. Maybe 2005 and that's debatable.

BigWindyCane1

I think Miami is the perfect fit for CMR. CMR has transformed this football team and he has even had a tremendous impact on moving the needle forward on all Canes sports programs with the new complex and indoor practice facility. IMO, The Canes will win an ACC championship and make the CFP multiple times under CMR.

UMike

Again, not trying to knock him or say he isn't doing well. Just saying he isn't above being questioned just because we had a couple good seasons. I think he's done some great things as you mentioned, but his offense also stalled at the end of the year even with playmakers.

As far as the BCS, just don't think it matters in this conversation. The goal is to make the playoffs, UGA did and we didn't. But the fact we are even there st the end was great. Just saying if comparing CMR and Smart, one made it and one didn't lol

UMike

To add to that...CMR deserves a ton of credit and applause, for everything you mentioned.

TonyCane

Tony I do agree he took over UGA with Florida down and really no one else in the East, but that doesn't take away from the fact they beat who they needed to while we faded at the end.
We did have a lot of injuries there at the end of the season which didn't help. I'm not ready to say CMR will win a title for us, but damn sure not ready to call him a failure. We had our best season in over a decade, but some questions still need to be answered.
Posted by: UMike | July 14, 2018 at 09:46 AM

I agree with that. Injuries are always a factor, but I think you can make the argument that Georgia was far better positioned depth-wise to absorb the traditional number of injuries sustained by a college program than Miami. Add to that the fact that Miami had no bye weeks, and the wear and tear worsened.

UMike

Tony, all good points.

UMike

We should be stacked at RB and WR and possibly at TE, but we can't call or script plays to cover our OL/QB weakness's then we may have more of the same where we can't stay on the field.

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