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December 02, 2018

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Terrance Sullivan

Naw what is hysterical is Butch only having 1 10 win season in 12 years of being a Division 1 Football Coach and yall making him out to be Nick, Dabo, Urban, Jimbo, Richt. etc. I see none of you could retort my point because its facts so you change the subject I just lol but I call a spade a spade sorry it does not fit your argument but that's your problem playa not mine. Lmbao at hatred of Butch I said he was a 5 star recruiter but horrible game day coach. That's some major hating going on or facts. Weak Sauce Hoss! lmbao again at he had a elite Defense but only went 4-8 in 2007, 8-5 in 2008, 8-5 in 2009, 8-5 in 2010, so what you are pissing and moaning about from our team this season is no different than what you are excusing from Butch teams at UNC. Pure Freaking Comedy.But hey man have at it if it makes sleep better at night lol.

Terrance Sullivan

Harry Miller Outstanding. It will be a great time. Cant wait.

SOUP

I am a heartless savage with no scruples.

Posted by: TruCane81 | December 04, 2018 at 11:43 PM

When I grow up I wanna be just like you.

SOUP

You guys are very funny when you argue.

One argues point A.

The other argues point B.

Never the two shall meet? LOL

SOUP

Regardless of what "The Solution" is or may be, NOBODY, well except maybe Go Canes, is happy right now, so ANYTHING seems better than just maintaining the status quo. This says it all right here:

The future gets dimmer by the minute as long as Richt keeps himself as OC, his son as QB coach, Searles as OL coach and Beagles as punter.

Posted by: Herbieibis | December 05, 2018 at 09:14 AM

Terrance Sullivan

Lol hahaha Soup. Good banter is good for the soul.

Go Canes!!

https://twitter.com/thestateoftheu/status/1070286741767155712?s=12

Go Canes!!

https://twitter.com/dgould151/status/1070340764897431552?s=12

Herbieibis

We got probs on Dee. Even Rumph and Banda, whom most everyone had questions about have been good. Jackson and Redwine have really improved since those 2 have been their and of course Johnson and Banfy as well. The only question are they ever going g to be elite closers on the recruiting trail.

Herbieibis

I will say this about Searles, no telling how good he is or isn't because of how inaccurate our QB'S are and only having one OTackle on the entire roster BUT obviously he is no elite recruiter much less a closer.

Old Skool

FWIW Winston Moss (Packer assoc. head coach) is now out of a job.

Herbieibis

That should say we have no probs on Dee.

TonyCabe

Butch Davis is Mack Brown. A good coach and a fanastic recruiter. He’s not The Pirate or the Nebraska coach, who are scheming masterminds. Davis simply accumulated enough talent to overwhelm you.

To be fair, we only saw a limited glimpse of Davis’ true potential. Sanctions prevented him from building his ideal team until 2000, and then he left for the NFL. It took four seasons to build UNC into a power, and then an academic scandal ruined the season. Now at age 67 he’s starting over at FIU. It’s not a Power 5 school and he will be unable to build a talent roster that is close to what UNC or Miami we’re when he left

58 Straight

FWIW Winston Moss (Packer assoc. head coach) is now out of a job.

Posted by: Old Skool | December 05, 2018 at 12:40 PM

Bad timing. Where was he three years ago?

58 Straight

I will say this about Searles, no telling how good he is or isn't.

Posted by: Herbieibis | December 05, 2018 at 11:27 AM

I will say this about Searles, he isn't any good at all, in fact he is horrible.

FIFY

CGNC

Tell me again why UNC went back to Mack Brown and didn't call Jesus Christ's half brother Butch Davis?

Posted by: solarcane | December 04, 2018 at 05:23 PM

Terrance Sullivan


LOL Solar! Well because Mack Brown is a better coach than Butch Davis the End! The Truth is a mutha sucker!

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | December 04, 2018 at 05:30 PM


Solar, LOL how do we KNOW they didn't? Besides, they fired him due to their money and academic scandal - said originally he was ok, and then the NCAA was investigating the academic scandal and someone's head had to roll. The academic scandal BTW had been going on since the days of Julius Peppers. Some kind of fake class that didn't exist so that they could get an "A" if I remember. The real kicker is that the school did not get punished because these "paper" classes were available to anyone, not just athletes. Ironic, huh?

Terrance -I have to disagree with you there. Sometimes life takes people on different paths. Mack Brown "resigned" in 2013 from Texas after 4 very sub-par seasons starting in 2010. I wouldn't say he is better. Had Butch stayed at the U the same length of time that Mack Brown had at Texas (1998-2013 for Brown) - how many NC's would he/we have? How many more would have been played for?

I will say this also: Had Butch been hired back here instead of Pastor Richt, he would not have hired his @%~!&% son as QB coach.

These are the days of our lives......:-)

TruCane81

solarcane
Goes Fred Sanford when things get rough,

TruCane81

Lmao!

Posted by: solarcane | December 05, 2018 at 12:28 AM

Urban Meyer clutches his chest.

“ OHHHHH. This is the big one! I’m coming to join you, baby!”

Proceeds to retire for “medical reasons”.

Shows back up at a stacked powerhouse that robbed Fort Knox to hire him miraculously recovered.

Terrance Sullivan

CGNC no problem with disagreement but Facts are Facts and Butch has 1 10 Win season in 12 Years. Richt has 10 10 Win Seasons in 18 Years. Case Closed. Drops The Mic!

CGNC

I will say this about Searles, he isn't any good at all, in fact he is horrible.

FIFY

Posted by: 58 Straight | December 05, 2018 at 02:26 PM

Yes, Searles needs to go.

Terrance Sullivan

LOL FIU gagged away their Division this year when they had it in the bag well they gagged like we gagged in the Coastal lol. Butch is a 8-5 Head Coach. Helluva Recruiter, Horrible Game Day Coach, Richt is a 10-3 Coach. Sorry If I am dating or married to a 8.5(Richt) I aint dumping her for a 7.5(Butch).

Terrance Sullivan

Butch and Kiffin are 7.5 Coaches! Nothing More Nothing Less. Well they are still better than Shannon and Golden who are 5.5 Coaches Lol!

Terrance Sullivan

Taggert and Cristobal are 5.0 Head Coaches lol.

CGNC

Terrance - if that is the set of facts (wins/losses) that you like, then go with it my friend. Personally, I don't think Mack Brown OR CMR and his empanada eating self are better than Butch, despite what the wins/losses show you. But that is me.

Richt - LOL - 10 - 10-win seasons in 18 years - ok. Ask any UGA fan if they miss him....

Blog on my friend! (And pick up the mic - LOL)

Terrance Sullivan

Yea UGA Fans miss him more than you know lol the Kirbster aint no great shakes either especially after calling one of the dumbest plays ever in college football history and gagging again to Alabama Twice in 11 months. BTW there have been a lot of job openings that are better gigs than FIU and the Great Butch Davis is not a candidate for any of those Gigs hmmmm I wonder why lol.

Old Skool

FWIW Winston Moss (Packer assoc. head coach) is now out of a job.

Posted by: Old Skool | December 05, 2018 at 12:40 PM

Bad timing. Where was he three years ago?

Posted by: 58 Straight | December 05, 2018 at 02:24 PM

Apparently staying off Twitter and keeping his opinions on the Packers to himself.

Go Canes!!

Interesting question:

https://twitter.com/dgould151/status/1070412839876288512?s=12

Terrance Sullivan

FYI I know its a long way away but I have booked a number of rooms at Hampton Inn Orlando International Drive Convention Center Labor Day Weekend for the Florida Game. So If any of yall need a room Holla At Me. Probably will hit up SeaWorld While I am there.

CaneRock

Taggert and Cristobal are 5.0 Head Coaches lol.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | December 05, 2018 at 03:18 PM

So was JJ.

solarcane

Posted by: CGNC | December 05, 2018 at 03:05 PM

Good points CGNC
I guess I will always have a bad taste about Butch because of how he lied by omission to Dorsey and his guys when he left for the money.

In classic blog mob rule fashion, I jumped in with Sully because he was able to cut Davis down and book cabins and stuff at the Same time, impressing me greatly and leading me to the Dark Side.

Terrance Sullivan

CR dude stop acting silly at no point was JJ a 5.0 coach at Oklahoma State pure freaking Comedy. Just stop with the silliness.

Herbieibis

Dam, u guys still rehashing the Butch Davis history channel? I'm still puking.

BigWindyCane1


https://twitter.com/thestateoftheu/status/1070286741767155712?s=12

Posted by: Go Canes!! | December 05, 2018 at 10:49 AM

Simpson was my LOF Coach. I really sung his praises after watching him work at summer camps. He is better than Coach Kul, and he will develop players more. I also think Simpson will be a DC one day, and maybe even a HC. I think his players love playing for him, and they want to please him when they are performing out on the field.

mi@mic@ne

The reason that we talk about the old days is because for 20 years we dominated...and now we suc...who wants to talk about the program when it is not gonna get better until we get past another bad corch? The only question we should ask is ..are we relevant again?

CaneRock

CR dude stop acting silly at no point was JJ a 5.0 coach at Oklahoma State pure freaking Comedy. Just stop with the silliness.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | December 05, 2018 at 05:33 PM

LOL...JJ won a whopping 29 games in 5 years at OSU before we hired em', wasn't exactly setting the CFB world on fire.

Terrance Sullivan

Ummm you know Taggert and Cristobal still have losing records JJ didnt have losing records when he left Oklahoma State but carry on lol.

mi@mic@ne

all we want is for the bot to make us forget about the good ole days...right now he is begging us to focus on the past.

Terrance Sullivan

JJ was more like Shannon and Golden a 5.5 at Oklahoma State

DallasTX Cane

Terrance -I have to disagree with you there. Sometimes life takes people on different paths. Mack Brown "resigned" in 2013 from Texas after 4 very sub-par seasons starting in 2010. I wouldn't say he is better. Had Butch stayed at the U the same length of time that Mack Brown had at Texas (1998-2013 for Brown) - how many NC's would he/we have? How many more would have been played for?

Posted by: CGNC | December 05, 2018 at 03:05 PM

Oh man am I going out on a limb now... I don’t recall, in some 10+ YEARS of CANE blogging with CGNC, EVER disagreeing with her or even simply NOT being dazzled by her brilliant way of cutting to the chase & telling it like it is. BUT.....

Texas hadn’t won a NC since 1970 before Mack won it in 2005. UT did sniff one in ‘77 and again in ‘83, but lost the Cotton Bowl both times. In ‘83 they were ranked #2 and the day game loss was one of 2 boulders that had to first fall to set up our hometown CANE hero’s to lay claim to the prize. That’s 25 years between NC’s. Mack had Tejas back in the NC in ‘09 but a game ending injury to Colt McCoy perhaps didn’t seal the win for Sabans Ala but was a very significant factor.

So Mack truly resurrected a zombie program from a quarter century of irrelevance or big game failure. He won a NC and played for another. I do love Butch all sarcasm aside but the records are clear. What Butch might have or could have done is impossible to know. I actually believe Mack underperformed as a HC given his recruiting success. He “should” have more Conf titles and at least one more NC.

DallasTX Cane

Don’t hate CGNC! I couldn’t bear it...

TruCane81


Dam, u guys still rehashing the Butch Davis history channel? I'm still puking.

Posted by: Herbieibis | December 05, 2018 at 05:47 PM


At least we ain’t talking bout the offense.

You would be in the icu.

Rather have you talking ish on the blob lol.

TruCane81

I actually believe Mack underperformed as a HC given his recruiting success. He “should” have more Conf titles and at least one more NC.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | December 05, 2018 at 06:38 PM


I agree.

But to be fair, he had to deal with Stoops in his prime.

The way the wheels fell off does take some luster from his accomplishments, though.

Herbieibis

Dam, we still talking about another relic coach in Mac Brown? However, him coaching is better than listening to him on ESPN. Dam he's a monatone sunofagun

raizecane

Ask any UGA fan if they miss him....

Blog on my friend! (And pick up the mic - LOL)

Posted by: CGNC | December 05, 2018 at 03:22 PM

***********************************************

I have many Bulldog friends and trust me, Smart is currently sitting atop their naughty list. He absolutely blew the last Alabama game. And failed to make adjustments last year. He will be known CMR 2.0 as in cant win the big one.

DallasTX Cane

Posted by: TruCane81 | December 05, 2018 at 07:54 PM

He was a CEO coach that could seriously recruit. When he had excellent X’s & O’s coordinators, he won big. When he didn’t, his teams lost games they shouldn’t have. The last few years were a cluster. Agree with U about Stoops... 98/99 to mid-00 Stoops was a boss.

WWIN

He’s won 10 games one out of 12 seasons as a HC.

You rip Richt apart for far superior results.

The end.

Posted by: Go Canes!! | December 04, 2018 at 09:44 AM

You know both situations are not the same!

TonyCane

Mack Brown won his NC because of Vince Young. He needed a superlative talent to get over the top. The rest of his teams makeup did not vary that much between 2002 - 2012. It was that unstoppable player in Young that took the Longhorns to the title. It wasn’t schemes...I live here and the fans were no happy with him and his OC between 2000-2005.

Brown also lucked into Colt McCoy. Colt was signed as an afterthought, but was never intended to be the starter. Jevon Snead was the highly rated recruit, but 3-Star Colt proves better in summer practices. Brown was still going to go with Snead, but members of the team went to Brown and urged him to go with Colt. And he did. Colt was a very smart, very good QB for the Longhorns and you can make a strong case that UT would have beaten Alabama in 2009 if not for Colts injury (Alabama was not nearly as stacked ten years ago).

So with Vince and Colt, from 2004-2009 Mack had NFL quarterbacks. After, Mack whiffed on QBs. Garett Gilbert did not work out. The OC was fired, and UT went away from the spread to a pro style. That further negated Gilbert - he was suited for the spread - and Mack struggled to replace him. After several mediocre seasons recruiting finally began to take a downturn. LSU and a resurgent Baylor we’re now contesting for the recruits that Brown had easily gotten in the past.

TonyCane

Tru, between 2000 and 2010 Mack really had the state of Texas to himself. His only real rival for talent was OU. From 2010 onward, he had to contend with LSU, Baylor, and Alabama competing for the best Texas players...all at a time when his teams had taken a step back.

Mack might still be coach if he had brought in Johnny Manziel or Andrew Luck instead of passing on them.

WWIN

Tell me again why UNC went back to Mack Brown and didn't call Jesus Christ's half brother Butch Davis?

Posted by: solarcane | December 04, 2018 at 05:23 PM

Why would they hire someone they scapegoated and why would Butch wanna go back after that?

WWIN

I know he is never coming back, but a lot of people tired of hearing his name talk about his record without context.

Posted by: TruCane81 | December 04, 2018 at 11:19 PM

THIS X 1,000

WWIN

Posted by: His Majesty The Dude on High | December 05, 2018 at 01:31 AM

This too!

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