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January 03, 2019

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SOUP

1. Schiano and Kiffin would leave their jobs for what reason again? I love this hypothetical however.

2. Miami dynasty is formed for the next 20 years!!

Posted by: JaxCane | January 04, 2019 at 06:24 PM

1. Schiano used to coach under Butch as DC at Maimi. They have a good relationship.

2. Kiffin is at FAU and could UPGRADE his status as Head Coach in waiting at UM under Butch who is probably good for 3-5 years max an 1-2 Championships.

SOUP

If you polled members of my family, most of them, Ohio State fans all, would tell you they hope that Greg Schiano doesn’t return to the Buckeyes next season. Based on his comments earlier Thursday, those OSU fans who lean in the direction of a change in leadership on that side of the ball could very well see their wishes come true in the not-too-distant future.

- John Taylor, College Football Talk

DallasTX Cane

Solar: I haven’t really followed MA’s coaching career. I loved him as a player. He was average physically but a born leader that the team followed and he won. Chris Simms was the guy with the NFL body but 10 cent head that even a lemming wouldn’t follow. I know he has coached with several well respected guys and was considered an “up & comer” a few years ago. I think he got somewhat of a raw deal at Houston - 1st time HC that made a lot of typical mistakes for a 1st time HC; only got 2 years so no real chance to learn and adjust; he was 7-1 this year before a five game losing streak buried him, losing his best 2 players to injury didn’t help. MA’s worst mistake?... following Tom Herman.

The other coin side is he hired D’no. He hired Briles - might have been good football-wise but was controversial and Kendall leaving Htown so quickly reflected poorly on MA. Lot of judgement calls that didn’t sit well with UH AD & Pres.

So I’m still a MA fan and want him to succeed. I’m not excited about him at Miami more due to the fact that I believe Manny would greatly benefit from more experienced staff to guide & mentor. If he does end up here, I think he’ll do well given Miami talent & speed plus taking off all the HC responsibility shackles.

TonyCane

Latest rumor is that after Fedora, second choice for OC is Clemson co-OC Jeff Scott.

solarcane

DTX
Thanks I remember MA playing mostly because his name was a bit unusual.
When he moved on to coaching I didnt really follow how he was doing.

I am willing to give him a chance.
I just don't want a good cop bad cop deal with offensive players like the brief Richt Era was developing.

I followed Fedora for awhile, and always thought he did a lot with average players. He is also fiery.
He was my choice.

The guy from Troy seems to know offense, maybe he is a fit.

No soft ass coaches!


TruCane81

People trying to figure out who the fourth unnamed candidate is.

This could possibly be guy Diaz said would knock our socks off if named.

All the sauces is guessing trying to get a “Heard it here first.” take like I’m always doing lol.

JaxCane

Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2019 at 08:41 PM

Got it, we want the DC from the team whose fan base doesn't even want him anymore? I would say Diaz has done a better job with less talent than Greg...

Now I'm going to pull a WWIN


What good offense has his defense shutdown? A bad Purdue team torched him. And we expect him to beat Clemson..No thanks

😉😉


See soup it's all about narrative..

solarcane

This could possibly be guy Diaz said would knock our socks off if named.

I knew it!
Urban Meyers

SOUP

People trying to figure out who the fourth unnamed candidate is.

Posted by: TruCane81 | January 04, 2019 at 09:29 PM

Only ONE name: Terrance Sullivan.

SOUP

Jax...U are missing the message.

I am not saying that Schiano is a better DC coach than Diaz (he may be IF combined with the coach that rhymes with Butch) but I AM saying that his NAME along with that other guy I mentioned along with that Kiffin Dude from FAU could recruit the F$#% outta South Florida.

Argue that?

IJS

SOUP

Butch + Schiano + Kiffin > Diaz + Baker + Applewhite

Alex D

out who the fourth unnamed candidate is.

Posted by: TruCane81 | January 04, 2019 at 09:29 PM

I would say a local big name high school coach, however, the last big name high school coach that was hired (Mike Rumph), had not delivered on local 5 star recruits from his former school.

JaxCane

Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2019 at 09:45 PM

"could recruit the F$#% outta South Florida."

based on what? who was the last big time guy Greg got from down there?

I love Butch. I do.

Who are when has Lane gotten a big time guy from south Florida? 247 says Bo Scarborough is the only big time recruit he has ever gotten from Florida...and that's not so.flo

Soup I would love your staff but I just dont see how that haul would even be possible to obtain..That seems like something off of season mode on NCAA college football game

JaxCane

Strength coach hired

When Manny Diaz was hired by Temple ... remember that? ... his first personnel move was to retain head strength and conditioning coach David Feeley..

And when Diaz took the UM job one of his first moves was to dismiss strength coach Gus Felder.

Now?

Sources tell CaneSport that Feeley is a leading candidate to head the weight room for Diaz at Miami.

Diaz had given Feeley the title "Assistant Athletics Director, Football Sports Performance" at Temple.

Go Canes!!

Posted by: JaxCane | January 04, 2019 at 10:16 PM

Going into his third season as HC, coming off a school record nine wins at FIU, Butch Davis currently has the........115th ranked recruiting class in America.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: NativeCane | January 04, 2019 at 05:44 PM

That is a funny sh*tty story. Lol.

thirstybuzzardcane

Possibly are new strength coach! Sounds like a winner and holds people accountable!

https://youtu.be/bDdflblZ_Kw

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Go Canes!! | January 04, 2019 at 10:48 PM

All of 'em low key gems, future 1st rounders & Hall of Famers.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2019 at 09:45 PM

Yep.

solarcane

GoCanes,

Yes but look at the school he is trying to bring recruits to.

If This was still 1999 and Butch was at the U, and he was playing in the Orange Bowl, and his school already had 4 national championships, and Kenny Dorsey was his quarterback and on and on and on.. well you get where I'm heading

CGNC

Tell me I am wrong. Go ahead, I can take it.

Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2019 at 06:01 PM

Take a deep breath LOL. That is a dream scenario which we are NOT going to get. Under that scenario, I agree with you and I would love to see that.

Same thing if we hired Saban as head coach which is not happening either. My comment was geared towards the chances/coaches we have right now.

CGNC

Butch + Schiano + Kiffin > Diaz + Baker + Applewhite

Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2019 at 09:45 PM

Agreed. Free Mi@mica@ne

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2019 at 09:43 PM

https://www.ebay.com/p/NCAA-Miami-Hurricanes-Hard-Hat/1800921326

^^^ for that brick wall you are slamming your head into.

solarcane

SOUP
Butch + Schiano + Kiffin > Diaz + Baker + Applewhite

Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2019 at 09:45 PM

WTF are you talking about?

thirstybuzzardcane

The players will probably love this guy! Seems like he'll get along with the players real well!

https://youtu.be/S4ZzhQszEvs

CGNC

Dude - LOL!
PTCD - post traumatic coach disorder is a thing

solarcane

Thirsty great stuff brudda

Go Canes!!

Posted by: solarcane | January 04, 2019 at 11:05 PM

Gonna go out on a limb and say any potential coaching savior should at no time in his career, under any circumstance have fewer commits and a lower ranked class than conference foes Rice and Old Dominion.

SOUP

WTF are you talking about?

Posted by: solarcane | January 04, 2019 at 11:09 PM

WTF are U taking about?

SOUP

lower ranked class than conference foes Rice and Old Dominion.

Posted by: Go Canes!! | January 04, 2019 at 11:25 PM

U see this is the definition of DESPERATION!

Go Canes felt so motivated to defend his position that he actually did the research to make this comment. We drove him to this and now he has officially gone over the edge!!!

I love it.

DallasTX Cane

SOUP
Butch + Schiano + Kiffin > Diaz + Baker + Applewhite

‘Cause we’re gonna party like it’s 1999!

Herbieibis

Well we definitely ain't getting Justin Fields, in case there was a remote chance, he's off to OSU. When u have an exciting offence u can reel in these type players.

Go Canes!!

Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2019 at 11:28 PM

My only position is bent over with laughter reading what your scotch hazed brain convinces you is coherent thought as you spew type on here nightly.

It really is a hoot and a guaranteed way to go to bed chuckling.

I love it.

SOUP

So my good friend Mr. Go Canes...since you felt it research worthy to look up the recruiting stats on FIU and their competitors I thought I would repay the favor by looking up the results of their actual head to head games. And what do you know, in 2018, here is what I found:

FIU beat Old Dominion 28-20

FIU beat Rice 36-17

Oh and BTW, your good friend Butch at FIU beat Toledo in their bowl game 35-32 whereas Miami lost to Wisconsin by, well, you know...

SOUP

‘Cause we’re gonna party like it’s 1999!

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | January 04, 2019 at 11:29 PM

Let's do it!

Oh wait, Prince is like, yeah, oh well.

SOUP

My only position is bent over with laughter reading what your scotch hazed brain convinces you is coherent thought as you spew type on here nightly.

Posted by: Go Canes!! | January 04, 2019 at 11:41 PM

I had not a single drop of Scotch tonight. Now Vodka, well that may be a different story all together. LOL

Go Canes!!

Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2019 at 11:48 PM

Wait, he beat Old Dominion and Rice yet somehow has turned that into a lower rated recruiting class and fewer commits than both schools?

Is that what you meant by recruiting the f-ing shit out of South Florida?

How do you not realize what a total self own you just posted.

SOUP

Before Butch got to FIU they were 4-8. Since then they have been 8-5 and 9-4. There is your research working for you.

Manny comes in at 7-6. What will he end his first year at? Will he win 4-5 more games in his first two years as his predecessor?

Time will tell...

DallasTX Cane

Posted by: solarcane | January 04, 2019 at 09:29 PM

I’ll give them all a chance, like always. The only thing I know for sure is the constant coaching carousal is a hallmark of a crap program in constant crisis. This is the biggest recruiting hinderance. Instability fosters doubt. Kids don’t commit when there’s doubt.

I know, I know... but we’re Miami. Coaches last 4 years, win a couple NC’s then head for Da League! Next up!

I say, well how have the last 15-20 years treated U?!? The Schnelly-JJ-Erickson-Butch era was a major college football anomoly. Most top winning programs get at least 8 years of HC stability, a lot even longer (Saban, Dabo, Stoops, Switzer, Mack B, Bowden, etc etc). After 2 bad hires in a row, the odds of serious long term decline go way up (see Nebraska or Tennessee or many others). The U needs to fix this. It gets more difficult with every bad hire. We’re seriously approaching Notre Dame status... great history, middle of the pack program that makes a little noise every few years, best years long gone & not coming back. I pray Manny is the 2nd coming of JJ because if he’s not...

SOUP

You are such a jackazz, always missing the point. I said IF Butch were at MIAMI, with Schiano and Kiffin, they would recruit the F-ing stuff out of South Florida, not if Butch were at FIU without either one.

Butch "under-recruits" but over performs!

Get it? Got it? Good!

SOUP

Oh and BTW, your good friend Butch at FIU beat Toledo in their bowl game 35-32 whereas Miami lost to Wisconsin by, well, you know...

Posted by: SOUP | January 04, 2019 at 11:48 PM

I see you didn't address this issue because the former coach who UNDER-achieved at UM is no longer here whereas Butch is sitting comfy having OVER-achieved at FIU.

SOUP

Go Canes...I am just messing around with you.

Have a great night. Sweet dreams, you dreamers.

solarcane

DTX good points.
You and I think along the same lines quite a bit.

I was thinking a couple days ago how many different Cane Coaches guys like Frank Beamer shake hands with and then realize they are actually the big winners to stay at a program that respects the hell out if them.

BigWindyCane1

Another source, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald, says Clemson co-offensive coordinator Jeff Scott is being considered by the Canes for the OC job. CMD is right — the Canes have a lot of good candidates for the open OC job.

raizecane

The players will probably love this guy! Seems like he'll get along with the players real well!

https://youtu.be/S4ZzhQszEvs

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | January 04, 2019 at 11:14 PM

**************************************

Epic fail.......your in Philly and you don't go to Dalessandro's Steaks and Hoagies for a cheesesteak ??? No way I want this guy,,,

raizecane

Some saying Coley wants to come back ........

BigWindyCane1

I wonder if CMD plans to keep Kyle Bellamy as the Canes nutritionist? The Canes definitely need a nutritionist

solarcane

These were the teams that were our peers and we were always battling with in the 90s.
Note the programs that have sustained or rebuilt while we patted ourselves on the back on the way down the toilet

Top 10 college football teams of the 1990s
1995: Nebraska (12-0) Biggest regular-season win: at Colorado, 44-21.
1999: Florida State (12-0) Biggest regular-season win: at Florida, 30-23. ...
1994: Nebraska (12-0) ...
1992: Alabama (13-0) ...
1998: Tennessee (13-0) ...
1997: Nebraska (13-0) ...
1991: Miami (12-0) ...
1997: Michigan (12-0

solarcane

Posted by: raizecane | January 05, 2019 at 12:18

raize I was noticing the complete lack of other people wearing Temple gear in Phillie, for a team on the rise, not a lot of neighborhood support.
Think Dade Broward even as much as we suck.

BigWindyCane

Looked at the list of pro bowl players from Florida, and two things stuck out:
1. There are as many, if not more, former 2-3 star recruits out of high school , as opposed to 4-5 star recruits
2. None played for the University of Miami- and half weren’t even recruited by the University of Miami.

CMD must change this, among other things.

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