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January 05, 2019

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Alex D

First time, one more?

VfB_Cane

I'll second that.

VfB_Cane

Baker as DC isn't official yet, I assume.
"UM has yet to announce the addition of a defensive coach, reportedly a new defensive coordinator that could be Blake Baker out of Louisiana Tech."
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article223868345.html#navlink=Lead

Alex D

DallasTXCane that was an excellent post during the last discussion. Great input by all. Keep up the good work on the blob.

Sarasota 'cane

We can biatch all we want, but this is our team win, lose, or draw.

Let the Manny Diaz era commence!!

Go 'canes!!

YooperCane

I heard that gator meat is pretty tasty, not that I have ever had it. Go Canes baby!

WWIN

Posted by: JaxCane | January 04, 2019 at 09:32 PM

You're finally learning!

👀👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾👍🏾😂😂

Dude on a Pale Horse

Bogle up soon.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Bogle Bama

Dude on a Pale Horse

Manny not a crooter... we probably made a bad choice at HC.

Go Canes!!

Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 05, 2019 at 02:04 PM

Butch would have got him.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Go Canes!! | January 05, 2019 at 02:08 PM

Butch w/ Schiano... I think so.

Dude on a Pale Horse

It dont matter though... Miami is done competing at a national level... done. This program really has so much to prove.

TonyCane

This battle was lost months earlier, during the four game losing streak. It was reinforced by all of the negative publicity and the terrible bowl game. The fact that we do not have a full coaching staff yet doesn’t sway anything in Miami’s favor.

For everyone who wanted a new coach, we were ALWAYS going to take a hit in at least the first recruiting class. That’s almost guaranteed with any new HC coming in. Still a much better class than Al Golden’s abysmal 2011 class.

TonyCane

One thing that gives me hope is that while Clemson is doing great in recruiting now, they rose back to prominence on the back of talent than on paper was equivalent to Al Golden’s teams. We’ve been handicapped since 2011 by terrible coordinators, first for five years on defense and then for the last three on offense. IF...if we can get good (and I don’t even mean great coaching) on both sides of the ball simultaneously, we have the talent to put together a string of 9 and 10 win seasons. That gets us back into the conversation for elite recruits.

As someone else said, all we had to do was average 28 points this season and we would have been 11-1. That’s a lot different to a recruit than a 7-6 squad.

TonyCane

On a different note, when announcers say that it is good for college football for Alabama and Clemson to meet up for four straight years I ask this question...after how many years would it not be a good thing? 10? 50? 100?

BigWindyCane

Jerry Jeudy and Alabama's South Florida WR pipeline https://es.pn/2LOhYmB

Now Bogle to Alabama? This South Florida pipeline to Alabama is something CMD and his staff will have to curtail

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: TonyCane | January 05, 2019 at 02:31 PM

Maybe if Diaz at least stacked depth as DC I'd have more hope for him. But his side of the ball hasnt recruited enough 3* talent either. We dont have enough Div 1 bodies at DE, DT, CB, or S. Fail.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: BigWindyCane | January 05, 2019 at 02:39 PM

My prediction is he will not.

BigWindyCane

Stephenson to UGA

Killerbeez41

Why are you guys all caught up in this recruitment stuff, it's the COACHES remember? If the kids aren't playing any good it's the coaches fault. Let the recruits go where they want, if we get the COACHES it'll be alright.

Alex D

Here is something so far that is completely mind boggling and totally unacceptable. This recruiting class has signed a total of one player from Miami/Dade County. Totally unacceptable.

nemo2002


Why are you guys all caught up in this recruitment stuff, it's the COACHES remember? If the kids aren't playing any good it's the coaches fault. Let the recruits go where they want, if we get the COACHES it'll be alright.

Posted by: Killerbeez41 | January 05, 2019 at 03:04 PM

You're joking, right?
STARS MATTER!

TonyCane

Big Windy, unless someone steps up with seven figures for EACH recruit, we will have a hard time. We’re competing against schools like LSU that are giving out up to $250K for top recruits. Schools that have $5 -$10M annual salary structures for their roster. Few schools can change compete.

TonyCane

Just remember this friends. High Level Players who do not commit in December are not looking for options or are indecisive. They are merely trying to create a bidding war. Georgia and Alabama are in a bidding war for all of the top talent and will be hoovering it up for the near future. We have to be smart, strategic, recruit nationally, and improve our brand. And if a player does not commit in december, let him be dead to us.

Herbieibis

Well The Herb says this, it ain't alright and it down right sucks losing the talent we could of had in this up coming class. Ingrahm, Bogle and Neal we're at one point all destine for hear. Stevenson was a longshot. Hasselwood was all set, then we start that dam familiar 4 game losing streak we are famous 4. U guys want to get back to the top, well it ain't going to be with a bunch of 3 stars and watching all the talent walk out the door. This class is shot. This class is on Richt. Not blaming Manny.

BigWindyCane

David Feeley looks to be a solid pick for the Canes strength coach.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: nemo2002 | January 05, 2019 at 03:09 PM

Stars do matter, but so do numbers... take the 2ndary for example...

1. **** CB Couch
2. **** S Smith

And thats it...

Now imagine if you will beating the likes of Syracuse, Miss St., Indiana & UCF for croots.

1. **** CB Couch
2. **** CB Mullen (Indiana)
3. *** CB Good (UCF)
4. **** S Smith
5. *** S Nunn (Syracuse)
6. *** S Emerson (Miss St.)

Not elite... but d@mn at least we can create competition and field a d@mn team.

Dude on a Pale Horse

^^^ and thats on Manny Diaz, he's been DC here for 3 years and he's getting handled in recruiting. Some of you think this was a good hire when it was the very definition of lazy. Didnt even hear out other candidates.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Herbieibis | January 05, 2019 at 04:08 PM

The top of what? The top of the NCAA isnt gonna be done w/o 4s & 5s I agree, but sraying on top of the Coastal and fielding a competitive team that gets better every year will require 3*s.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: TonyCane | January 05, 2019 at 03:10 PM

How much did Syracuse drop on Nunn? How about Kentucky on Scalzo? How much did UCF drop on Good, or Indiana on Mullen? Did Oklahoma drop bags on Davis?

Dude on a Pale Horse

Stars matter, good 3* talent is everywhere in Miami. And 3*s are better than App St 0*s and nothing at all. Every time we get a new HC I have to come here and do this.

Dude on a Pale Horse

If Mark Helfrich was hired last year, we'd be fine. This is just Miami being Miami.

80's Canes

If you want to stop this BS with the mass exodus of blue chippers we need to establish a strong and stealth pipeline of money to keep these guys here. Find a way to move Tyrique's Mom to a better neighborhood and put a little money in her pocket each month to keep Tyrique here and do the same with other blue chippers. Your telling me with all the money down here and all the top hustlers in this city who love the U and we cant get some type of DL money club together to keep these kids here. And Manny's family and all their political connections. I dont buy it. Just takes a little motivation and organization. Tired of this happening every year with the top guys getting plucked out of here. Call to all Miami hustlers, movers and shakers lets get this together and stop this nonsense once and for all!

Dude on a Pale Horse

This somes it up perfect...

*** OL Kaleb Boateng 6'5" 290 Ft. Lauderdale, FL

Vs.

** OL Zion Nelson 6'6" 240 Sumter, SC

Thats what we are dealing with...

TonyCane

This class is shot. This class is on Richt. Not blaming Manny.

Posted by: Herbieibis | January 05, 2019 at 04:08 PM

This class was shot in the spring of 2018, when we had more 3 star recruits than 4 star recruits. People were not concerned then. Those trends just continued throughout the year and were made worse by Miami's offense cratering.

My GUESS is that this is probably the worst Diaz and his crew will do. 2020 will be somewhat better, and 2021 will be much better. Recruiting is about relationships, and the new offensive staff will have to establish them. We were always going to take a hit when the HC leaves - this is not surprise whatsoever that we are not closing on recruits with this much uncertainty still left in the program.

It will be interesting to see what Bogle does when Saban leaves in the next 13 months. At Alabama, he's just one of a veritable army of 4 star recruits and may never see the field. At almost any other place including Miami, he'd see playing time by year 2.

TonyCane


Posted by: TonyCane | January 05, 2019 at 03:10 PM

How much did Syracuse drop on Nunn? How about Kentucky on Scalzo? How much did UCF drop on Good, or Indiana on Mullen? Did Oklahoma drop bags on Davis?

Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 05, 2019 at 04:24 PM

Who knows, but it's likely copious bags were dropped for Hasselwood to join Oklahoma after they signed three other great wide receivers. Just like bags were probably dropped at USC in the early 2000s, when Carroll had NINE five star running backs on his roster. If rumors are to be believed, Fournette received $250K to go to LSU (which was enough to blow LSU's enhanced recruiting budget and call for additional efforts from boosters to lock up remaining targets).

Not everyone gets significant bags, I imagine. Great on the field performance will help us a lot. Manny needs to build HOPE back into the program. College football programs rise and fall based on hope. Once you lose it, you just do not get the recruits and the coach is usually on borrowed time. I saw this play out with Charlie Strong at Texas, we all saw it play out with Al Golden in 2015. Just eight days ago, there was no hope in the Miami Hurricanes....just a certainty that over time things were inexorably falling apart and that we were just marking time until Mark Richt would leave (probably 2021), at which point we would have to start rebuilding. Now there is guarded optimism, but it's too late to undo the damage that was done with the 2019 recruits over the previous four months.

TonyCane

If Mark Helfrich was hired last year, we'd be fine. This is just Miami being Miami.

Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 05, 2019 at 04:28 PM

True. We'd likely be 11-2 or 10-3 with similar momentum as we had exiting the 2017 season. Mark Richt would still be here.

Let's hope Manny makes the right offensive hires. It's vital.

CoCane

😂😂😂

Canesinsight be having nuclear meltdowns of epic proportions...

That sight is hilarious.

It ain't f*cking with the Space though

It's so simple. IF Diaz puts together a good staff and the staff coaches the players up, the team will win. THEN the "U" will get plenty of talented recruits next year and beyond.

We can only hope...

ColaCane

Honestly gang, and most know this, you finish 7-6, and your HC leaves, that AINT very attractive to kids! Just WIN BABY, and they will come. 16 going into 17 is evidence of that. We have a solid team, and MORE than enough talent to win the Coastal again! Get another chance at Clem, and go to a major bowl, and the recruits will see we're once again headed in the right direction!

BigWindyCane

The Canes have some good 2019 recruits signed, just not a lot of them. I like crouch, Williams and Harvey better than Bogel. I would have liked to get Stephenson, but we have Smith. The Canes just need about 8-10 more quality players like the ones they already signed.

Also, the players they have committed in 2020 and 2021 are also very very good. If they can hold onto them and pull a few more, the Canes recruiting classes will get rolling again.

solarcane

Welcome to junior college U

HillviewCane

Bryant McKinnie was a Junior College transfer so bring it on

ColaCane

Tell you what, AQ Muhammed is playing lights out for the Colts. He's sacked Watson already and is manhandling the o-line!

solarcane

HillviewCane
Bryant McKinnie was a Junior College transfer so bring it on

Posted by: HillviewCane | January 05, 2019 at 06:01 PM

Hill you are saying junior college is chuck full of guys like McK.and we will be just fine scrounging through Jr college rosters to fill out slots 3 star guys turned down?

HillviewCane

Posted by: solarcane | January 05, 2019 at 06:46 PM

Nope I am saying a JC player or transfer isn't necessarily a bad thing. We need to get to next year. Hell it used to work for Kansas State. We just need support to get to the next recruiting cycle.

BigWindyCane1

Win and they will come — lose and they won’t. It’s that simple. With the talent on the Canes roster playing in the ACC Coastal Division, there is no excuse for not winning the Coastal and having at least ten wins every season

WWIN

Some of you think this was a good hire when it was the very definition of lazy. Didnt even hear out other candidates.

Posted by: Dude on a Pale Horse | January 05, 2019 at 04:21 PM

There it is!

Definition of LAZY... not interviewing ANYBODY!

TonyCane

Agreed Big Windy. Roster depth and a cryptically bad defense kept us from winning the Coastal in 2011 - 2015. An antediluvian offensive scheme held us back the last three years.

What happens if the improvement shown by the defense in 2016/2018 is wedded to a similar turnaround on offense? The ACC hasn’t seen that yet, and we could really surprise people.

thirstybuzzardcane

😂😂😂

Canesinsight be having nuclear meltdowns of epic proportions...

That sight is hilarious.

It ain't f*cking with the Space though

It's so simple. IF Diaz puts together a good staff and the staff coaches the players up, the team will win. THEN the "U" will get plenty of talented recruits next year and beyond.

We can only hope...

Posted by: CoCane | January 05, 2019 at 05:13 PM

Exactly! Great post!

Go Canes!!

Ohio State and Oklahoma did the exact same thing the Canes just did when hiring their head coaches.

Wish we had interviewed other candidates but after reading about the interactions between Manny and the school, the need to move quickly seems more clear and justified.

Like Co said, I’ll wait and see who he hires, then we’ll see where we are.

thirstybuzzardcane

Miami fans are terrible! Just chill out and see how it plays out!

solarcane

Hill,
I agree. I also think Kansas State fans are far more realistic about who they are.

For some reason we hang onto the past, always conjuring up past players and coaches as if memory of them has any impact on kids that weren't even born when we were somebody.

If we can get the jucos to plug holes in the roster temporarily you have a point.

I'm still sticking my opinion I made 10 years ago that Miami is and will be
A pretty good team that goes 8-4 with a 10 win season now and then for years and years with no NC in sight.

BigWindyCane

Tony, Co and TBC,
I agree. It’s not complicated. Winning will definitely improve recruiting, and winning the ACC Coastal Division is very possible with the right coaching staff in place

IraqiCane

Phillip Dorsett just broke his ankle.

ColaCane

OMG Hurns just broke his ankle after a GREAT catch! Poor kid☹️

IraqiCane

Correction Allen Herns is not Phillip Dorsett

ColaCane

Standing O for Hurns!!

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: TonyCane | January 05, 2019 at 08:08 PM

Antewhatnow?

ColaCane

ESPN has Top 10 Natl Title games of all time, Canes in 2 of them. Both losses, against OSO, and PSU. Kind of surprised they didn't include our first against Neb, that was a helluva game!

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: solarcane | January 05, 2019 at 08:16 PM

Kansas State doesnt have what we have, an ability to contend in 3 years time, its what keeps some fans perpetually optimistic and delusional. Butch would have sent a shockwave through SoFL. He gets Schiano and kids are listening. Miami recruiting will always be about how our university will prepare you for the NFL. Sorry but up-and-comers will always have to prove it to these kids. We can not recruit like we are Wisconsin, "make the crib great."

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | January 05, 2019 at 08:14 PM

Okay Lucy... but this is the last time you pull the football away!

I wont believe my lying eyes again okay? Lol.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Go Canes!! | January 05, 2019 at 08:13 PM

And that might work again at Miami, if we're coming off a National Title with 4 first rounders and 3 second rounders. But we're not, and so outsiding of looking real good while winning the Coastal next year, and putting Garvin in the first round... and hoping we dont lose Simpson... then we'll see if we can SLOWLY work our way back to national relevance and getting these kids to sign. Manny has never recruited at a high level though, we'll see if he can figure this out, after all we have to thanks to Friends and Family U.

ColaCane

Anybody have any intel on what recruits are left that we're trying to land next month?

TonyCane

Dude, that should be the realistic goal over the next two to three years. We have more talent than anyone in the Coastal - as usual - it’s simply a matter of good philosophies on both sides of the ball. We’ve been conditioned by a decade of mistakes - first on defense and now offense - that we can no longer be relevant or even win the Coastal. That’s absurd.

And Miami is not K State.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Anybody have any intel on what recruits are left that we're trying to land next month?

Posted by: ColaCane | January 05, 2019 at 09:04 PM

Grad transfers and 3*s Hail Marys like Emerson & Washington.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: TonyCane | January 05, 2019 at 09:10 PM

Even if we have more talent it wont matter if the teams we are going up against are smarter than us or if our thin roster gets injured. Here's my question... whats the over/under on Ws & Ls that gets Diaz & James removed?

ColaCane

Gotcha Dude. Maybe we can get some diamonds in the rough?

Herbieibis

Coco,
Bottom of the dam barrel.
That's what's left. The bones have been picked over.
Bump s bunch of one year wonders and grad transfers. That ain't helping u build depth for the long run and it's just laziness. No need to start recruiting for next year just wait until july to start crooting for 20'. Then we won't have do many decoms.

ColaCane

Maybe we can get a couple decent o-line cruits that are decent Herb.

WWIN

Posted by: Go Canes!! | January 05, 2019 at 08:13 PM

Don't care how it turns out... hire was L-A-Z-Y!

WWIN

Miami fans are terrible! Just chill out and see how it plays out!

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | January 05, 2019 at 08:14 PM

Blake James didn't act quick all season so why act fast now???

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: ColaCane | January 05, 2019 at 09:20 PM

Lol, yeah, sure, okay...

What year is this?

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Herbieibis | January 05, 2019 at 09:22 PM

Has to be a full 25.

QB: 2
RB: 1
TE: 1
WR: 3
OT: 3
OG: 2
DE: 3
DT: 3
LB: 2
CB: 3
S: 2

ColaCane

Well if we get some 3 star OL recruits and an O-LINE coach who can ACTUALLY help them get BETTER, then who knows. It's all dependant on who Manny brings in.

Herbieibis

Dude,
Listen, every team has 3 star players that develp into pretty good players, like Jacobs from Bama. How many 3 stars does Bama start? Clemson has a 5 star QB, 3 five star WR's and at least on 5 star on their Oh line. I haven't even mentioned the Dee yet. 3 stars sprinkled here and there u will be okay. If u want to keep on watching Bama, Clemson And OSU every keep on thinking all these 3 stars are going to g to get u a ship. Miami wants to compete then it needs to be bringing in at least 14 to 16 4 & 5 star players a cycle, if you are bringing in 25, which we haven't done in about 5 years. Losing Good was no big deal, the dude hasn't even been playing corner,losing Nunn, who we had for maybe 2 weeks, no big deal. 3 star QB's R a dime a dozen in Flo. When u start watching the Surtain, Campbell and Stevenson's of the world walk out your back yard u got problems. Would u have wanted to come play with this cluster effed team if u we're a player. Kids now a days are used to winning and want to play for a winner and that is painfully obvious by what's leaving. We show some dam consistency with the offense and maybe kids will get excited to come play. Win some games that really matter and they will start to get excited. No this ain't on Manny, this is on that lazy ass Richt and his no developing a QB, free loading son, Get it!

TruCane81

Looked at the list of pro bowl players from Florida, and two things stuck out:
1. There are as many, if not more, former 2-3 star recruits out of high school , as opposed to 4-5 star recruits
2. None played for the University of Miami- and half weren’t even recruited by the University of Miami.

CMD must change this, among other things.

Posted by: BigWindyCane | January 05, 2019 at 01:00 AM


This is why player development is SO HUGE!

We lament the bagmen snatching the elite recruits.

But what about all these guys we let leave for average out of state programs who BALL?

We get trolled and stood up on signing day by the top 100 then scramble after these guys after IGNORING THEM THEIR ENTIRE CAREERS, and wonder why we can’t sign them making a half assed offer 5 minutes before their hat party.

We are short on depth but can’t recruit with Purdue, Minnesota, or Louisville and the like for solid guys. Then got the audacity to act surprised holding our d**** on signing day!

But I get it. Our coaches suck and know it!

They have to have 5 stars to beat puke and uvag because they can’t coach they way out a wet paper bag!

Dude on a Pale Horse

If it were me, 4* DB Sanguinetti would be my top priority for FS and 3* ATH Emerson would be redshirted for SS or ST. That'd make it so we hit numbers at S. For CB, we might be able to get by on a 3* (assuming Bethel is gonna stick) that will redshirt. GA has some uncommitted 6'1" 180 guys, I have no idea if they are worth kicking the tires on.

VA Cane

Starting with HS, JJ and DE....even BD...we did not know what we were getting.....we hoped and had experienced some high moments....but each hire was no sure thing....same with Clappy..he won...and i think everyone thought we would keep rolling....little did we know....Onion AlPa CMR.....I do not think anyone thought ok now we will be back.....I never did....so MD is another shot in the dark...like RS he had good D....but we can only wait hope and see.....

TruCane81

You are not 6’0. You can’t play corner for us.

You are not 6’5. Here at Miami we want y’all receivers.

Hey buddy we measured your arm length and the are a quarter inch too short. HARD PASS!

We really liked your tape but if you put on 35 lbs of bad weight, you will look like our guys at pedophile state used to. Here’s some snicker bars, get to work!

What happened to just signing ball players?

Every year I watch guys on the boards hyping BALLERS who WANT TO COME but we slow play em if not outright ignore them.

They leave. They ball. We suck.

The incompetence and laziness of our approach is sickening.

And people think TRULY ELITE players would put there lives in the hands of a program like that?

LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Herbieibis | January 05, 2019 at 09:57 PM

Lol at this not being on Manny also. He's been DC here for 3 years and those guys you mentioned, Surtain & Campbell... that was under his watch. But Im not even mad about those guys, because we got three 4* CBs in that cycle plus a 3* to take a chance on. Where did I make any claim that we should rely on 3*s? All I said is we arent getting them either, and that you can win ball games at Miami by properly developing those guys, guys like Perryman, Young, Jaquan, McIntosh, Trent Harris, etc, etc, etc, etc. No you wont compete with Bama, but in case you missed it, we just lost 6 games playing in the Coastal. I want 4s & 5s as much as anyone, but more than that I am interested in a clear plan of stacking good players. Nunn is an excellent prospect, and while I agree about Good he had freak speed... maybe he can be a KR down the line, that alone can be a key to victory. Speaking of lazy, lazy cones from the top down and we have a very lazy admin. That MR/JR thing you are talking about went on for a year too long. Get it?

ColaCane

My reasoning is we NEED O-LINE help IMMEDIATLEY, and IF there are some decent 3star o linemen left, snap em up and HOPEFULLY our new OL coach can make them better?

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: ColaCane | January 05, 2019 at 10:15 PM

There are not. 3* are almost always redshirt guys, especially on the OL... and the dumb@asses you were supporting a couple of weeks ago we going after a out of state 2* that weighs 240, rather than a local 3* that was 6'5" 290.

TonyCane

Dude, while I have a good feeling in this hire, if Manny wins only 11 games over the next two seasons, he’s out.

That should not happen, but I’d imagine a 4-8 season in 2019 followed by a 7-6 finish in 2020 would be a severe underperformance. Miami easily has the talent to win the Coastal. I’m expecting that Manny will make the right hires on offense.

BigWindyCane

I saw Amari Cooper (2012 4 star from Miami Northwestern Bulls) and Allen Hurns (2010 3 star from Carol City Chiefs) play in high school. Both were good, but there were several other 2-4 star recruits who eventually made it to the NFL and are playing at a high level. Antonio Brown, a2006 recruit from Miami Norland was unranked with 2 stars or less).

We got Hurns but the Shannon episode hurt us with Bridgewater and the rest of the Northwestern recruits. The others who eventually made it to the NFL weren’t even recruited by the Canes.

IMO, CMD is correct in that the Canes must put in the work and rely on their own personal evaluation of recruits, not on recruiting websites. Five stars tend to be better than three stars, but it’s not always true. Websites get it wrong, and they can’t evaluate player development and potential.

The Canes aren’t Clemson, Alabama or UGA, but they have the advantage of location. IMO, the Canes have to recognize their weaknesses, and instead heavily utilize their advantages and strengths and build their program on those strengths. I think that is the vision that CMD is articulating, and I think he can succeed where the post-Butch coaches have failed

TruCane81


One thing that gives me hope is that while Clemson is doing great in recruiting now, they rose back to prominence on the back of talent than on paper was equivalent to Al Golden’s teams. We’ve been handicapped since 2011 by terrible coordinators, first for five years on defense and then for the last three on offense. IF...if we can get good (and I don’t even mean great coaching) on both sides of the ball simultaneously, we have the talent to put together a string of 9 and 10 win seasons. That gets us back into the conversation for elite recruits.

As someone else said, all we had to do was average 28 points this season and we would have been 11-1. That’s a lot different to a recruit than a 7-6 squad.

Posted by: TonyCane | January 05, 2019 at 02:31 PM

THIS!!!!!!!!!

Damn realism.

I’m gonna ride the 12% bus EVERY preseason til we crash it with a bs loss.

But I know we are a LONG WAY from being a top 5 program.

However, the only thing standing between us and being a perineal top 10-15 program dominating the Woestal division and playing reasonably tough in acc championship games is the CORCHINATING and special ed recruiting tactics.

We are a real head coach away from relevance AS ALWAYS.

Let us pray Manny can find a way to be that guy even with the current obstacles.

86Cane

The joy here is overwhelming.

Lighten up Francis!

86Cane

Stand by your man!

raizecane

Stand by your man!

Posted by: 86Cane | January 05, 2019 at 11:24 PM

*****************************

No that there is anything wrong with it......

raizecane

^^ Not^^

TruCane81

The Dude riding his horse and bringing pain.

Don’t let em off the hook!

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: TruCane81 | January 06, 2019 at 12:07 AM

Never.

Herbieibis

Well the only shot we have left or if there are any left is on Feb 5. To find some high school players.
Manny knows his head coaching career relies on the offensive side of the ball

He better get the perfect OC. Go after Trooper Taylor who is a very good Cooter. I know the OC hold has got to Brad Scott, another good recruiter. We have enough 3 star recruiters on the defensive side but with help from the Oh side it will balance out. Depth of talent will really be an issue after this debacle. Not any real depth of talent on the O-Line or at LB. Thank goodness all the LB'S are back. Do
T has bodies but not enough talent. We are still short a couple DE'S and at least 3 DB'S.

TruCane81

Y’all been killing it.

Even some lurkers popping up.

Too much good stuff to respond to it all.

Sarasota 'cane

I can see some of you all 30 years from now in a nursing home with dementia...

What would you like for dinner?
BUTCH!

Time for your pill.
BUTCH!

Do you gotta go to the bathroom?
BUTCH!

TruCane81

Blake James didn't act quick all season so why act fast now???

Posted by: WWIN | January 05, 2019 at 09:36 PM

Good question.

Dude on a Pale Horse

^^^ easy answer though. He wanted to hire his buddy.

Dude on a Pale Horse

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | January 06, 2019 at 12:54 AM

This Caned administration makes me feel like I have dementia right now.

TonyCane

Or Sarasota, we see a Super Special Edition of Empire Strikes back on 16K Really Ultra HD that has this updated dialogue:

OBI-WAN: That boy is our last hope.

YODA: No. There is Butch.

IraqiCane

Hahahahaha!!!

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