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March 24, 2019

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Terrance Sullivan

TBC Trayone Gray would have been a helluva Striker!

HillviewCane

There is one issue that supporters of the President should use against his opponents. His opponents have stopped talking about Universal Health Care. The cyncical will say it's because he would sign it into law and his popularity would skyrocket and they don't want to give him that victory.

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HillviewCane

When do we start taking bets on the starting QB week 1?

Sarasota 'cane

Trump nominated Whitaker and Barr to shutdown the Mueller probe and that's what they did.

Mueller "farmed out" 17 active investigations to multiple U.S. Attorneys and to the NYAG.

I hope everyone continues to support Bob Mueller regardless of the outcome of these cases. The guy is an American hero who conducted himself in a professional manner throughout this process.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

HillviewCane

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | March 25, 2019 at 04:34 PM

Which is true. The way "patriotic" Americans and the President bashed this guy and are now using his report for their purposes. A guy who has truly served the country. We have to be better as a people. For an investigation of this scale to be ran so tightly is remarkable.

86Cane

Trump nominated Whitaker and Barr to shutdown the Mueller probe and that's what they did.

I hope everyone continues to support Bob Mueller regardless of the outcome of these cases.

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | March 25, 2019 at 04:34 PM

This is simply not true and should not be stated as a known fact. Stating it as a fact because what you believe is not any way to conduct a debate. Someone had to be appointed when Sessions was fired. Whittaker was Acting AG and was temporarily placed in the position until the Barr nomination could get approved which he was. It is as simple as that. Barr is widely respected just like Mueller. Can't say he was hired to end the Mueller probe. The guy had TWO YEARS and found nothing while disrupting the government. What was it supposed to go on for all four years or is it eight?

I support Mueller and his conduct (with few minor exceptions) and conclusions. I support Barr as well as should you instead of insinuating without any basis in fact that he was brought in to "end the probe". That is not fair or balanced.

DallasTX Cane

The only real way to “punish” Putin/Russia is to weaken Russia as an international power. The support of US domestic energy production and its impact on world oil and gas prices is the strategic counter play. Oil at $80-100+ a barrel is a tremendous pay off in Russia’s favor. The US producing at $30-40 a barrel, profitably, is making us the world’s largest energy exporter and a major impediment to Mr. Putin. Self-restriction of energy production plays directly into Russia’s hand and supports them.

Don’t get too sidetracked by what President Bozo says or tweets. Pay closer attention to what is done - whether you believe it’s him guiding policy or his advisors. You’ll see that this administration has not been a friend to Russia. I will politely abstain from the debate as to if this outcome is because of or in spite of the President.

86Cane

Incorrect because there was no conclusion on obstruction. The summary specifically said that the president was not exonerated regarding obstruction.

Which is fair enough.

Posted by: HillviewCane | March 25, 2019 at 03:40 PM

Keep the two issues separate and don't conflate them.

There was NO evidence to support collusion.

There was not ENOUGH evidence to charge him with obstruction.

The goals of a prosecutor is never to exonerate someone. They are not in the exoneration business. They either find enough evidence to charge someone or they don't. They never prove anyone innocent, only guilty beyond a reasonable doubt if they can. They couldn't.

Remember all along to you and many others argued that there was never any doubt that and you you wanted it to be true) that there was overwhelming evidence that Trump would to be found guilty and impeached and removed from office. That may still happen but not because of collusion which was the primary charge and reason for the entire investigation in the first place.

Don't get it twisted.

86Cane

For an investigation of this scale to be ran so tightly is remarkable.

Posted by: HillviewCane | March 25, 2019 at 04:41 PM

Agree 100%.

Sarasota 'cane

Posted by: HillviewCane | March 25, 2019 at 04:41 PM

We don't know what's in the Mueller report or whether it was hobbled or shut down before it was finished.

As Tony said we're all in our own silo's. I'd like to see the report minus the secret stuff, and I'd like Congress to resolve the issue of obstruction that Mueller punted away. It's their job to do over site in this situation.

Don Jr. met with a Russian spy in Trump Tower and that spy is currently sitting in jail.

The Russians pumped 30 million into the 2016 election through the NRA and that was not covered in Barr's Cliff Notes.

These cases didn't go away, they were farmed out IMO. I'll trust Mueller's report if/when we get to analyse it.

Sarasota 'cane

The guy had TWO YEARS and found nothing while disrupting the government. What was it supposed to go on for all four years or is it eight?

Posted by: 86Cane | March 25, 2019 at 04:52 PM

This is the shortest Special Counsel investigation in modern history. Whitewater went on for 7 years.

Hillary was the subject of 31 Benghazi investigations that resulted in zero indictments.

This report did nothing to convince me that the investigation is over, and it's my opinion that many of the underlying cases were farmed out to protect them from obstruction.

With all that said I do not think any of this will be resolved before the 2020 election.

Sarasota 'cane

During the government shutdown when we were not paying our government employees Trump somehow had time to lift sanctions on Rusal Aluminum Co. which is directly linked to Putin through oligarch Oleg Deripaska. Why? We didn't lift our "Emergency Sanctions" for Canadian aluminum but somehow the Russians who who under real sanctions got a pass?

Read up on Rosneft Oil Co.

Soup you and I are never going to agree on this. I appreciate this blog post and I will never post my feelings on this topic on any other thread unless you open it up like this.

Thank you for all you do for us.

86Cane

We don't know what's in the Mueller report or whether it was hobbled or shut down before it was finished.

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | March 25, 2019 at 05:04 PM

If Mueller himself came to your house and told you that there was no Trump collusion you still wouldn't believe it because you don't want to.

If anything was clear or obvious we know the investigation was allowed to play out until then end. Mueller said so, Trump said so (I know doesn't count) and Barr said so (I know doesn't count.). You just can't accept it.

Go on believing all of the negative stuff you want because you want to. I am sure it helps you sleep better at night absolutely convinced that there is a Russian spy living in the White House at Presidnet of the U.S. even when your best friend Robert Mueller said there is not.

Have at it buddy!

86Cane

Soup you and I are never going to agree on this.

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | March 25, 2019 at 05:22 PM

Agree? Of course not. Not expecting to.

But say it out loud to yourself and post it here:

"Robert Mueller determined that Trump did NOT collude with Putin and Russia."

I bet you can't even bring yourself to do that.

And if you can't then that is simply denial and dellusional. The report is in. Accept it.

Sarasota 'cane

Have at it buddy!

Posted by: 86Cane | March 25, 2019 at 06:24 PM

Will do! Thanks!

86Cane

But say it out loud to yourself and post it here:

"Robert Mueller determined that Trump did NOT collude with Putin and Russia."

You didn't say it OUT LOUD? Still waiting...

thirstybuzzardcane

If there is no collusion how is there obstruction? The only thing Mueller questioned about obstruction is Trumps tweets against Mueller's team. Trump has every right to say what he wants on Twitter!

Go Canes!!

This blog proves the most important point of all of this.

The Russian “interference” didn’t change a single voters mind about anything.

These were the two most polarizing figures in the history of politics. No one decided to vote for one or the other because a bunch of misinformation peddlers pushed fake stories about Clinton or Trump.

86Cane

Go Canes for the WIN!

UsAgainstTheWorld

Just when I was gonna start posting again... I’m gone. For good.

UsAgainstTheWorld (And Killian Cougar ‘86).

Some real shady ish right here.

Go Canes!!

Posted by: UsAgainstTheWorld | March 25, 2019 at 11:12 PM

Bye.

HillviewCane

Posted by: 86Cane | March 25, 2019 at 04:58 PM

I never said he would be impeached. I personally think that would not be the best outcome. The best result would have been ongoing issues bringing down his poll #s which if he keeps tweeting or seeks payback is bound to happen. He would get in more trouble for attempts at retribution.

I do think that there was inovlvememnt with the Russians. Russian hackers hit voting systems in 39 states. Which is why there were indictments against Russian agents.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections

Mueller's report "summary"says there isn't enough to prove it done in sync with Trump Fair enough, it's the system we have.

However there is a difference between not being being able to prove guilt and not having engaged in wrong doing.

Look at John Gotti. The govt failed for years to make anything stick to him. Do you really think that means he was innocent? You are a savvy fellow. The govt never got him until they got rid of his attorney after about 10 years.

That being said for me personally if I saw health care for all added, saving the lives of millions, I would consider most other issues with the President a wash

HillviewCane

I will not lie. I find a few of these interesting. It was an intereting time https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/03/24/europe/dead-russians/index.html

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