Mueller Report: No Collusion, No Obstruction

So now all of you know it alls and wise guys can choke on it.

So many abused their blog priviledges to boast about how "Trump was a guilty and was going down". And oh, how wrong they were. Very wrong.

So many tried to implicate the President of the United States with no evidence because they hate the man. Now he is totally vindicated!

Your alleged "Hero of the day" Robert Mueller has found that there was NO COLLUSION OR OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE between our great President of the United States Donald Trump and Putin and the Russians and the DOJ.

Now you just watch at how quickly and swiftly the rebound effect comes in to play. All those comments and predictions just crashed and burned.

Stupid is as stupid does. And stupid will get you just as far as you deserve.

Payback is gonna be a bitch. The "Get Donald Trump" media collusion is going to crash and burn. Hillary Clinton, Rosenstein, Comey, McCabe, Lynch, Strzok, Page and the rest will be in jail soon. Sit back and enjoy the show.

This is going to grow in scope and size, and get much deeper than any Democrat wanted it to be. The consequences will be steep and severe and sudden.

Positive blog comments about Donald Trump will be welcomed. Negative ones will be seen as part of the collusion against the President.

Until then we will wait for the Democratic roaches scurry from the daylight into the darkness. Their time will come. And it will be soon.

Comments

[HillviewCane]

I will not lie. I find a few of these interesting. It was an intereting time https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/03/24/europe/dead-russians/index.html

[HillviewCane]

Posted by: 86Cane | March 25, 2019 at 04:58 PM

I never said he would be impeached. I personally think that would not be the best outcome. The best result would have been ongoing issues bringing down his poll #s which if he keeps tweeting or seeks payback is bound to happen. He would get in more trouble for attempts at retribution.

I do think that there was inovlvememnt with the Russians. Russian hackers hit voting systems in 39 states. Which is why there were indictments against Russian agents.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections

Mueller's report "summary"says there isn't enough to prove it done in sync with Trump Fair enough, it's the system we have.

However there is a difference between not being being able to prove guilt and not having engaged in wrong doing.

Look at John Gotti. The govt failed for years to make anything stick to him. Do you really think that means he was innocent? You are a savvy fellow. The govt never got him until they got rid of his attorney after about 10 years.

That being said for me personally if I saw health care for all added, saving the lives of millions, I would consider most other issues with the President a wash

[Go Canes!!]

Posted by: UsAgainstTheWorld | March 25, 2019 at 11:12 PM

Bye.

[UsAgainstTheWorld]

Just when I was gonna start posting again... I’m gone. For good.

UsAgainstTheWorld (And Killian Cougar ‘86).

Some real shady ish right here.

[86Cane]

Go Canes for the WIN!

[Go Canes!!]

This blog proves the most important point of all of this.

The Russian “interference” didn’t change a single voters mind about anything.

These were the two most polarizing figures in the history of politics. No one decided to vote for one or the other because a bunch of misinformation peddlers pushed fake stories about Clinton or Trump.

[thirstybuzzardcane]

If there is no collusion how is there obstruction? The only thing Mueller questioned about obstruction is Trumps tweets against Mueller's team. Trump has every right to say what he wants on Twitter!

[86Cane]

But say it out loud to yourself and post it here:

"Robert Mueller determined that Trump did NOT collude with Putin and Russia."

You didn't say it OUT LOUD? Still waiting...

[Sarasota 'cane]

Have at it buddy!

Posted by: 86Cane | March 25, 2019 at 06:24 PM

Will do! Thanks!

[86Cane]

Soup you and I are never going to agree on this.

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | March 25, 2019 at 05:22 PM

Agree? Of course not. Not expecting to.

But say it out loud to yourself and post it here:

"Robert Mueller determined that Trump did NOT collude with Putin and Russia."

I bet you can't even bring yourself to do that.

And if you can't then that is simply denial and dellusional. The report is in. Accept it.

[86Cane]

We don't know what's in the Mueller report or whether it was hobbled or shut down before it was finished.

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | March 25, 2019 at 05:04 PM

If Mueller himself came to your house and told you that there was no Trump collusion you still wouldn't believe it because you don't want to.

If anything was clear or obvious we know the investigation was allowed to play out until then end. Mueller said so, Trump said so (I know doesn't count) and Barr said so (I know doesn't count.). You just can't accept it.

Go on believing all of the negative stuff you want because you want to. I am sure it helps you sleep better at night absolutely convinced that there is a Russian spy living in the White House at Presidnet of the U.S. even when your best friend Robert Mueller said there is not.

Have at it buddy!

[Sarasota 'cane]

During the government shutdown when we were not paying our government employees Trump somehow had time to lift sanctions on Rusal Aluminum Co. which is directly linked to Putin through oligarch Oleg Deripaska. Why? We didn't lift our "Emergency Sanctions" for Canadian aluminum but somehow the Russians who who under real sanctions got a pass?

Read up on Rosneft Oil Co.

Soup you and I are never going to agree on this. I appreciate this blog post and I will never post my feelings on this topic on any other thread unless you open it up like this.

Thank you for all you do for us.

[Sarasota 'cane]

The guy had TWO YEARS and found nothing while disrupting the government. What was it supposed to go on for all four years or is it eight?

Posted by: 86Cane | March 25, 2019 at 04:52 PM

This is the shortest Special Counsel investigation in modern history. Whitewater went on for 7 years.

Hillary was the subject of 31 Benghazi investigations that resulted in zero indictments.

This report did nothing to convince me that the investigation is over, and it's my opinion that many of the underlying cases were farmed out to protect them from obstruction.

With all that said I do not think any of this will be resolved before the 2020 election.

[Sarasota 'cane]

Posted by: HillviewCane | March 25, 2019 at 04:41 PM

We don't know what's in the Mueller report or whether it was hobbled or shut down before it was finished.

As Tony said we're all in our own silo's. I'd like to see the report minus the secret stuff, and I'd like Congress to resolve the issue of obstruction that Mueller punted away. It's their job to do over site in this situation.

Don Jr. met with a Russian spy in Trump Tower and that spy is currently sitting in jail.

The Russians pumped 30 million into the 2016 election through the NRA and that was not covered in Barr's Cliff Notes.

These cases didn't go away, they were farmed out IMO. I'll trust Mueller's report if/when we get to analyse it.

[86Cane]

For an investigation of this scale to be ran so tightly is remarkable.

Posted by: HillviewCane | March 25, 2019 at 04:41 PM

Agree 100%.

[86Cane]

Incorrect because there was no conclusion on obstruction. The summary specifically said that the president was not exonerated regarding obstruction.

Which is fair enough.

Posted by: HillviewCane | March 25, 2019 at 03:40 PM

Keep the two issues separate and don't conflate them.

There was NO evidence to support collusion.

There was not ENOUGH evidence to charge him with obstruction.

The goals of a prosecutor is never to exonerate someone. They are not in the exoneration business. They either find enough evidence to charge someone or they don't. They never prove anyone innocent, only guilty beyond a reasonable doubt if they can. They couldn't.

Remember all along to you and many others argued that there was never any doubt that and you you wanted it to be true) that there was overwhelming evidence that Trump would to be found guilty and impeached and removed from office. That may still happen but not because of collusion which was the primary charge and reason for the entire investigation in the first place.

Don't get it twisted.

[DallasTX Cane]

The only real way to “punish” Putin/Russia is to weaken Russia as an international power. The support of US domestic energy production and its impact on world oil and gas prices is the strategic counter play. Oil at $80-100+ a barrel is a tremendous pay off in Russia’s favor. The US producing at $30-40 a barrel, profitably, is making us the world’s largest energy exporter and a major impediment to Mr. Putin. Self-restriction of energy production plays directly into Russia’s hand and supports them.

Don’t get too sidetracked by what President Bozo says or tweets. Pay closer attention to what is done - whether you believe it’s him guiding policy or his advisors. You’ll see that this administration has not been a friend to Russia. I will politely abstain from the debate as to if this outcome is because of or in spite of the President.

[86Cane]

Trump nominated Whitaker and Barr to shutdown the Mueller probe and that's what they did.

I hope everyone continues to support Bob Mueller regardless of the outcome of these cases.

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | March 25, 2019 at 04:34 PM

This is simply not true and should not be stated as a known fact. Stating it as a fact because what you believe is not any way to conduct a debate. Someone had to be appointed when Sessions was fired. Whittaker was Acting AG and was temporarily placed in the position until the Barr nomination could get approved which he was. It is as simple as that. Barr is widely respected just like Mueller. Can't say he was hired to end the Mueller probe. The guy had TWO YEARS and found nothing while disrupting the government. What was it supposed to go on for all four years or is it eight?

I support Mueller and his conduct (with few minor exceptions) and conclusions. I support Barr as well as should you instead of insinuating without any basis in fact that he was brought in to "end the probe". That is not fair or balanced.

[HillviewCane]

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | March 25, 2019 at 04:34 PM

Which is true. The way "patriotic" Americans and the President bashed this guy and are now using his report for their purposes. A guy who has truly served the country. We have to be better as a people. For an investigation of this scale to be ran so tightly is remarkable.

[Sarasota 'cane]

Trump nominated Whitaker and Barr to shutdown the Mueller probe and that's what they did.

Mueller "farmed out" 17 active investigations to multiple U.S. Attorneys and to the NYAG.

I hope everyone continues to support Bob Mueller regardless of the outcome of these cases. The guy is an American hero who conducted himself in a professional manner throughout this process.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

[HillviewCane]

When do we start taking bets on the starting QB week 1?

[HillviewCane]

There is one issue that supporters of the President should use against his opponents. His opponents have stopped talking about Universal Health Care. The cyncical will say it's because he would sign it into law and his popularity would skyrocket and they don't want to give him that victory.

🤷‍♂️

[Terrance Sullivan]

TBC Trayone Gray would have been a helluva Striker!

[HillviewCane]

I was banned twice. Once for politics and once for saying the players should be played.

But Canespace seems to be open for everything today. So here is the thing the blog is wrong in part.

Correct, not enough evidence to support collusion in the mind of Mueller. Incorrect because there was no conclusion on obstruction. The summary specifically said that the president was not exonerated regarding obstruction.

Which is fair enough.

However even without enough eveidence to support collusion they also said the Russians made attempts to influence the election in favor of the President.

In light of that I think reasonable people of different affiliations could have supported punishing them. However our President went against both chambers of Congress and decided to actually remove sanctions against the Russians. If you are okay with that so be it.

That being said. The President and his family has been in greater danger and is still under greater legal jeapordy from the other actual cases in New York and the other States.

Honestly my bigger personal problem is the idea that the Russians could possibly influence our elections which many around the world beleieve and all the intelligence agencies said they tried to do makes us look weak. The Emperor with no clothes.

To me government are like lawyers. Everyone hates them until you need them and then they are life savers. Not perfect but not the great evil.

I do worry about people going into silos. Unable to cross socioeconomic and idealogical positions. We are losing the ability to be cool with people of different views and we ate not allowing people to grow and change their minds. That is terrifying.

[thirstybuzzardcane]

Trayone Gray should of stayed at WR.

Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | March 25, 2019 at 02:49 PM

I would've put him at LB.

[solarcane]

Bluto speech

https://youtu.be/q7vtWB4owdE

[solarcane]

4 star dl Clayton transferring from Florida

[nemo2002]

Did the Japanese sit down with Pearl Harbor before they bombed them?

Posted by: NativeCane | March 25, 2019 at 01:37 PM

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

[Terrance Sullivan]

Trayone Gray should of stayed at WR.

[thirstybuzzardcane]

Coaches never gave Gray a chance, I wish that would've. I know there is more to the RB position than just running, but damn man let the kid run.

[TonyCane]

As a rule I do not discuss politics, but I will say this. In the last few years I had a sudden epiphany one day. The system of somewhat peaceful coexistence between the two parties that we have seen up to this point may be ending. One side is going to ultimately crush the other, and we will end up with one party control similar to that maintained by Mexico under the PRI.

People are now increasingly viewing the other side as not just people with whom they disagree with, or even just people that are misinformed, but people that are evil. People who deserve to be silenced and punished. People that are not even human. And if we get to the point, where the opposition are subhumans...we’ve seen in history how that plays out.

[NativeCane]

Soup making Canespace great again!
Man we need a badass disrupter of all things offensive like the one and only Jerome Brown!

[CGNC]

I thought this was a sports blog?

[86Cane]

New blog at 4 PM.

[NativeCane]

Did the Japanese sit down with Pearl Harbor before they bombed them?

[Terrance Sullivan]

Lol I was like Trayone Gray is a Fast Dude.

[Go Canes!!]

Wut?

https://twitter.com/christychirinos/status/1110228663075786752?s=12

[VA Cane]

I love America; I hate with disdain the US Government and all associated with it....forever! The worst pack of thieves rogues liars murderers ever!

Nuff said hope we are really working hard in spring ball....football is very important to me! I want to really have an incredible year on the field!!!

[Terrance Sullivan]

Outstanding Soupster! Outstanding UMike!

[UMike]

Appreciate that 86... Solar I do believe I will be at that game. Only a 6 hour drive for me and relatively inexpensive.

[86Cane]

This family will never be divided.

Politics is politics.

Sports are sports.

They should remain completely separate.

Hurricane athletics will ALWAYS unite us.

Politics cannot tear us apart. We will be moving on later today. Trust me.

[Terrance Sullivan]

Solar and UMIke, I Third what U two are saying I love the Soupster and he damn sure has the right to post whatever he damn well pleases. I simply do not want to see this family divided like everywhere else I see.

[Terrance Sullivan]

Solar That sounds like a plan Brotha.

[UMike]

Solar, I love and respect Tom, and I know what he has put into this place and I will always be grateful. And you are correct, he can absolutely post whatever he wants. I just don't want to see this place divided like everywhere else I look.

[Terrance Sullivan]

Thwe Big Cane Drills seemed to be pretty cool. Loved Manny being at the different events supporting the other Programs.

[solarcane]

Big Sully,
I am 90 percent sure I will be at Chapel Hill. I would like nothing better than to sit with you, Umike and any other Canespacers.
I will only be in NC for the game that day because of prior plans that weekend, keep me posted I will shoot you my email on here later and give you my phone number
I'd love too meet you.

[solarcane]

UMike,

Me too, there was a rule no politics, no religion, no personal insults.
I had to take a four year break because of peoples opinions being forced on others, name calling was like we were in the 8th grade here.

This is Tom's Blog he has put time energy and money into this project.
It is his right to write any article he feels the need too.

No one on here respects Tom more than I do, he knows that.
No one on here whispers in his ear when he might need advice more than I do.
I love Canes football. I love the folks on here, hell I even love soup.
Lets get back to worrying about who the Big Cane is.

[Terrance Sullivan]

UMike and all others who are coming for the UNC game in September the Tickets with our Group should be coming up for sale in the next couple of weeks. I will let y'all know if y'all want in to sit with us with great seats and the pricing. A Know a Bunch of us are staying in the Chapel Hill Inn.

[UMike]

This isn't the first time Go Canes, so not a one time thing. But hopefully it is the last.

[Go Canes!!]

Yes kill this one time blog immediately so the five people who post here in March don't have to scroll past them.

Give
Me
A
Break

[Terrance Sullivan]

Lol UMike. Facts.

[UMike]

Am I the only one still getting use to all the new coaches? Every time I read an article from spring practice I keeping thinking stuff like "oh yeah we do have a new DC" lol

[Terrance Sullivan]

UMike Amen Brotha. Let the ones that want to Talk about non Canes Related stuff carry on elsewhere. I am still disappointed at how our Lady Canes let that Game get away last night. And our Baseball team struggling lately. And our Tennis Teams, Track and Field, Spring Football, and my day to day life consumes me so the hell with, Don ald, Hillary or whoever else in DC. They don't know me or care about me. So I could give a damn about them. Now Canespace Family that's different we love and care about each other. Y'all have a great day and week ahead. Much Love.

[nemo2002]

Hopefully there will be a "NEW BLOG IS UP" soon and we can get back to why we all come here and love this place.

Posted by: UMike | March 25, 2019 at 07:22 AM

Why?
Reading some of the comments posted by bloggers on this site this morning has put new meaning into the phrase "March Madness".

[UMike]

Go Canes... My bad bro. Although I still think my post was appropriate lol... Will you be at the spring game in Orlando?

[Go Canes!!]

Posted by: UMike | March 25, 2019 at 08:15 AM

I just meant this current blog topic.

[Terrance Sullivan]

UMike Preach Brotha. I come here for Miami Hurricanes Athletics and Setting things up for us As Miami Hurricanes Fans for us to do as Family not no political mumbo jumbo crap. Just My Opinion as well. Quite Frankly I don't give a damn what they do in Washington DC it doesn't effect my day to day life here in Montgomery AL. I come here for Canespace Family talk and planning not Political BS. I know where to find that if I wanted that. SMDH. Do Better!

[UMike]

Go Canes... No it won't. We have took it upon ourselves to divides us up into a couple of groups, picking a side and sticking to it at all costs. The division is everywhere and it's truly sad. Canespace is not that. We are all united because of our love for the same thing. The division we have on our social media pages, or the news channel we watch etc should be left there, not brought here. It's my opinion that if everyone here starts seeing each other as liberals or conservatives, Dems or Republicans and not as the cane family we see each other as now, this place will die. I love this place and many people here and just wish to keep that division elsewhere.

[Go Canes!!]

Posted by: UMike | March 25, 2019 at 07:22 AM

it will all be over soon enough.

[nemo2002]

Turning this thing into a pursuit of obstruction would be an even more colossal mistake than the hair on fire Russian collusion disaster the Democrats and media were just humiliaed by.

Never seen two entities so willingly self sabotage themselves.

Posted by: Go Canes!! | March 25, 2019 at 07:21 AM

In the words of the great Mr. T, "Pity the fool."

No collusion, no exoneration.
The band plays on?

[UMike]

Weren't people banned over politics on this blog? What's the sense of having rules if the leaders themselves don't follow them. Hopefully there will be a "NEW BLOG IS UP" soon and we can get back to why we all come here and love this place.

That being said I will say it don't matter what "side" of this any of y'all are on, you guys are still my people.

[Go Canes!!]

Posted by: nemo2002 | March 25, 2019 at 06:56 AM

Turning this thing into a pursuit of obstruction would be an even more colossal mistake than the hair on fire Russian collusion disaster the Democrats and media were just humiliaed by.

Never seen two entities so willingly self sabotage themselves.

[nemo2002]

Mueller Report: "No Collusion" (correct), "No Obstruction" (incorrect)

Mueller Finds No Trump-Russia Conspiracy, but Stops Short of Exonerating the President on Obstruction.

[nemo2002]

We need a new Basketball coach so all ideas are welcomed.

Posted by: 86Cane | March 25, 2019 at 12:17 AM

My choice is Shane Battier. I think he would be perfect for UM.

[nemo2002]

Anyone else think we can steal Buzz Williams from VT. He's young and heck of a basketball coach. Always had solid teams at Marquette and turned VT around. His salary at VT is $2.6 M, not sure what our price range is for a basketball coach.

Posted by: thirstybuzzardcane | March 25, 2019 at 12:14 AM

UM only pays Coach L about $1.5 million. But he also receives social security.

[Go Canes!!]

The most concise, accurate and damning play by play about the most absurd hoax ever played in te American people:

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/russiagate-is-wmd-times-a-million

[86Cane]

We need a new Basketball coach so all ideas are welcomed.

[thirstybuzzardcane]

Anyone else think we can steal Buzz Williams from VT. He's young and heck of a basketball coach. Always had solid teams at Marquette and turned VT around. His salary at VT is $2.6 M, not sure what our price range is for a basketball coach.

[86Cane]

Pardons are coming too. This witch hunt is over.

I remember a certain blogger with a different opinion saying : "Just wait, it is coming." And now it is but in a very different way than he could never have imagined!

[86Cane]

TBC...I agree 100%. This complete waste of time and money is the worst of our government actions ever. Obama, Hillary and many, many more will suffer severe consequences. Payback will be hell to pay. And payment will be due soon.

[thirstybuzzardcane]

Heads need to role! The big question is what did Obama know and when did he know it? People need to go do jail!!! Biggest coup in US history! Mueller just punched Trump's ticket in 2020!

This is all that I will say! Back to Canes talk!

[thirstybuzzardcane]

Excellent!...LOL

[solarcane]

still the best Cane hilite film in history
take a look, smile and think we could be heading there again

https://youtu.be/2CFXPlgdDpw