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August 25, 2019

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IraqiCane

I believe that CMD his staff, Jarren Williams and the rest of the New Miami are the real deal. They fought until the finial whistle blew and never gave up, and that's all I can ask for.

🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

AeroCane

2 plays stand out to me - thomas’ fumble and mallory’s Hold on the kicker fake; take away those 2 and we win!
Also, I feel bolden is going to take carter’s spot - I know he had the int, but overall I think bolden is going to be an improvement. And, lingard will be a difference maker at RB (assuming he comes back at full speed).
And lastly, Campbell was pretty much a disaster as right tackle - between allowing pressures and his penalties - they need to get him reset or replace him.
Overall, I think we are going to have a good season!
Go Canes!

roachcane77

We snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory... (sigh.)

Later Spacers...

Go Canes!!

This team, game one of Mannyy's tenure, played hard for 60 minutes and were one or two plays away from pulling off a huge upset against a n(alleged) top 10 team. They showed heart and never gave up.

Agree with Aero, Mallory's hold completely changed the game. Instead of first and goal ffrom the one with a chance to go up 10 and ice the game.

I'm 100% sold on Williams, who held on to the ball too long at times, but was incredibly accurate and made great decisions downfield the entire game.

But at the end of the day, this team will only go as far as this O-line, which looked wretched the entire game, will take us.

I'm praying the play of those tackles was more freshman jitters and inexperience than an indicator of what's to come because they need to improve...a lot...and fast.

Finally, Turds are so wretchedly overrated and Franks is total garbage. They'll be lucky to win 7-8 games this year.

Old Skool

Obviously, the chain and the bling rings are positive reinforcement. Just wondering if there's punishment for poor play beyond getting your ass chewed out. Perhaps the O-line should have to eat out of sacks for 10 days.

AeroCane

Old Skool - lol
Campbell was way out of his league - he got beat almost every play and had a lot of mental penalties; I’m ok with Zion as he looks like he can handle it - just needs more time
I’m very surprised they didn’t pull Campbell - I’ve read he was the better run blocker but not the better pass protector - our game plan needed a pass protector! I blame a lot of the ol on richt and the terribly bad ol coach he had (I won’t even name the pos)

Old Skool

Don't remember seeing much of Realus last night. I'm surprised with the level of pressure they were facing. Maybe he's an awful blocker.

AeroCane

So here’s the tough question: how do you see us end up this year?
As much as I hated on Shannon, golden and richt, I’m all in with manny and think we run the table!
This game is going to make us BETTER!
Jmo

PS at the office working on corporate extensions and not happy about it - so I may be on here a lot this morning - lol

AeroCane

I saw realus once - sorry to say but he looked lost
I thought maybe burns as he’s a bigger back and may of been able to put some pads on the gator guys rushing

roachcane77

SO, I haven't read most of the gametime blog from yesterday, but I watched the entire game and here's my 2¢.

I felt good with the O game plan when we started, with the dink and dunk passing to get the ball out of JW's hands quickly and into our playmakers' hands. Where did that go in the second half?

Enos was too slow getting playcalls in. JW doesn't seem to command the huddle. (Lots of other players talking in there.)

The refs were overzealous on the PI calls against us early, and totally BLEW the procedure call against the Gators when that O Lineman moved a full beat before the snap. (Their first game too.)

Bottom line is... and I hate to say this... ESPN and ALL of the pundits will NOT remember the poor referees, or the lack of an O-Line, or a Freshman QB for the Canes... They will ONLY remember that a mediocre SEC team, who did EVERYTHING they COULD to BEAT THEMSELVES, beat the ACC... AGAIN!

W/L... SEC- W ACC-L

We are currently 0-1 for 2019...

There's hope... but NO SILVER LINING! We didn't beat the Gators on their worst day. We're 0-1, and THEY now have bragging rights for a few years. This sucks.


Christopher Weimar

The offensive line play was consistently poor, including penalties, and ultimately caused this loss. The muffed punt was inexcusable, especially from one of our best players at a most inoppportune moment. Florida was frequently undisciplined on defense and didn't look like a top 10 team. Bandy was terrific for the most part. Officiating was sketchy at best. Florida's inexperienced line was at least adequate against our defense. Miami's play calling was mysterious at times. William's play was pretty impressive at QB all things considered. Hopefully the coaches find some answers between now and our game with UNC. Florida lost some luster from this game and Miami raised more questions than answers.

Old Skool

Time for Coach Patke to enter the transfer portal (I know it's for players only, in that case, imagine a teleporter or railroad tie covered in tar) Charleston Southern would be an appropriate landing spot.

Old Skool

Hope 86 von Trapp is enjoying his time in Vienna waltzing around and around in his lederhosen, eating strudel and sipping whipped cream infused espressos sprinkled with chocolate.

solarcane

I felt good with the O game plan when we started
Posted by: roachcane77 | August 25, 2019 at 09:51 AM


Me too when we showed motion and a bunch of formations early the Gators looked lost.
After the first series of scripted plays you could see Enos and Williams need to get the plays in faster.

Williams needs to throw the ball away the instant he feels pressure, or run straight ahead, running parallel to the line of scrimmage until you get pummeled is disaster waiting to happen.

These kids fought the entire game, and they never looked gassed.

solarcane

roach,
yea seeing Dallas and Thomas talking to each other in the huddle while Williams was calling the play was weird.

CGNC

But a couple of them told me I was pretty cool....and I was like "you fuckers are so lucky".


Posted by: raizecane | August 25, 2019 at 02:54 AM

And this right here is why I love college football.

For me, the penalites were atrocious - not going to get many W's with that. I have to LOL at the Canes playing the gators in the championship game watching them both last night. Ain't happening.

Watched the game at the BF's house and his daughter was there in her full Gator regalia. Got in my face yelling after their TD and doing the Gator chomp. I told her not to be obnoxious. Can't watch games with them, really really can't. It's like they don't know how to behave.

The future appears brighter but we have said/thought this before. OGV is right, special teams picked up where it left off last season. Punting was better. Could you imagine this game with Feagles shanking punts all night? LOL

On to Chapel Hill. Go Canes.

solarcane

solar thanks so much for the Rock and Roll u are so incredible...and your animation stickers.


VA My pleasure for sure brother.
I was hoping you would get a grin from the stickers,hope you enjoy a few of the tunes too.

Yea one of my favorite jobs was designing the Canespace header at the top of the blog and the Canespace Tee shirts for my pal soup.

CGNC

Oh almost forgot. Shout out to CMR for not getting JW15 in any games last year except for a drive or twin in that cupcake game, when he could have played in 4 games without burning his redshirt.

CGNC

These kids fought the entire game, and they never looked gassed.

Posted by: solarcane | August 25, 2019 at 10:43 AM

Agreed

CGNC

should be "a drive or two"

BigWindyCane

A lot of mistakes made by the Canes, but the two critical mistakes were on special teams—the muffed punt and missed field goal. Eliminate one of those mistakes, and the Canes probably win.

The key is that the Canes must get better everywhere on offense— OL was glaring, but RBs, QB, and WRs must must get better too. There is a lot to work on. DeeJay’s wildcat run was the most successful offensive play of the second half. The Canes could not fun the ball out of traditional sets and as good as the passing game was in the first half, the passing game was not very good in the second half (less than 50% completion), especially the fourth quarter and crunch time passing game was embarrassing.

The Canes run defense allowed only 52 yards, the least rushing yards for a Gators team under Mullen. I don’t know if Mullen has ever been so ineffective running the football in his coaching career. But the canes pass defense wasn’t as good as last season, and there was no sugar coating it. With the exception of Bandy, I wasn’t impressed with the missed assignments and tackling.

The consolation is the the Canes are very young, especially on offense. The key with this team’s season is that they have a lot of potential, but they must grow up in a hurry. The real season (ACC play) starts in North Carolina in week 2. I will look for growth in the young players

If these coaches are as good as Jimmy thinks they are (and I trust Jimmy ‘s judgment) then they should be a 10+ win team

orange 'n green in the vein

Posted by: CGNC | August 25, 2019 at 10:57 AM

Hey, careful now, HOF'er on here starts repeating too many of my points and we'll end up waking up too many blind followers with a slap in the face from reality and the honeymoon will be spoiled, CGNC(FL).

Wait, too late for that already! Screw it, how about this instead, in honor of 86 saving the season ticket money on something way nicer both he and Maria could enjoy together, we'll do something new, I'll list the bets on the game I wagered and won, then the bets I wagered and lost then we'll see what I had faith in would happen and what I misjudged thanks to opener blinding? Sound fun? It wasn't for me:

Winners (trending up?):

UM+185 1st half moneyline

UM FG 1st scoring play of game (had to hit it twice to cash, thanks shitty line that can't not jump early and opposite of clutch kicker!)

UM first team to score

UM first team to 10 points

FG or safety first scoring play of the game

No team scores 3X unanswered consecutively

UM over 9 1/2 1st half points

Jeff Thomas under 3 1/2 receptions

Mike Harley under 1 1/2 receptions

Van Jefferson under 3 1/2 receptions

UM QB's over 15 1/2 completions

UM +7, +6 1/2, +6, +5 1/2, +5 points for the game, all winner, by a single point at least, which brings us to the losers or as I like to call them . . .

The New Miami bets on this game:

Special teams or defensive return for a TD (Jeff Thomas failed in many ways last night and couldn't even pay out while doing so)

Brevin Jordan under 2 1/2 receptions (opening drive he had 3)

UF QB's under 16 1/2 completions (1st half completions against prevent were the difference losing this)

Now some good news, Carolina Tar Heels will be bad this season, maybe even bad enough UM can compete on the road against them, but not playing like they did yesterday they won't! Other good news is I made more than I would have spent going to the game yesterday so I can now buy my ticket this year to see Butch Davis coach in a baseball park on the site of the football stadium I used to watch him coach at when I went to college at UM, very small favors. At least Fake Lames got eaten by a reptile on distributing the opener tickets again this year so he's that much closer to being fired and left in shame on the tarmac at Orlando's airport so not even GD will give him a ride back to South Florida.

orange 'n green in the vein

Oh, forgot to add to the winners:

Under 46 total points.

Even total points total for the game.

44 was the magic integer and they hit it exactly thanks to the missed FG that would have set up a kick attempt to win it with less than a minute to go, that's why when you have a chance to promote from within off a regime that hasn't won shit and went .500 you have to do it, if you're Fake Lames!

TonyCane

Other big winners: those wanting CMD and Enos gone. I’ve seen some real, almost absurd hysterics elsewhere. I am surprised that they aren’t calling for banner planes.

orange 'n green in the vein

Man, how could I forget the best for last, add:

UF 1-6 victory margin to the list of winners I bet.

Great night Fake Lames, excellent work yet again.

CGNC

Posted by: roachcane77 | August 25, 2019 at 09:51 AM

Agreed

CGNC

USA Today

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2019/08/24/college-football-florida-ugly-defeat-miami-opens-season/2111555001/

Herbiei is

Does The Herb since a tone of a moral victory on here? As I said last night ugliest game I ever saw and Campbell had the worst game I've ever witnessed a player have. Nelson is still stuck in his stance while Zuniga is blowing by him.

10 sacks, what 14 or so penalties, a gift from Thomas on the door step. Mistake after mistake and we still should of won the game.
Enos came out with a lot of shifts and movement and then as quickly as we saw all of that it disappeared.
The big mistake Manny made was not kicking the FG with 4:50 left. Baxa is good for one chip shot miss, in his short career.
Oh line needs to reshuffle. Teams ain't going to wait for Campbell and Nelson's lights to come on. If those 2 are the best we got then Williams won't make it through the season. We have a ton of play makers and some who obviously took a siesta last night.
The defense looked solid but I guess by design didn't get a lot of pressure on Frank's.
No doubt we will get better and Florida ain't that good, not no 8th rank good.
We made their See look good because of the talent on the Oh line.
Nobody else on our schedule except FSU will have Florida type talent, so we should be in good shape but that's only that line gets better.

AfriCane

Wtf is O ‘n’ green talking about?

AfriCane

I’ve been a fan of this team for to long to make a call about the rest of the season. Will wait to see the rest of the season. Yes we played good and should have won. But we also play down to the level of our competition. We didn’t loose to LS WHO too bad last year, but then we went on to loose to teams we should have destroyed, like duke.
I’ll just watch the rest of the season. And go on gator boards and troll them about how much their garbage team sucks.
Also, every offensive tackle in America will want to come here, because, they r guaranteed a start.

roachcane77

Also, every offensive tackle in America will want to come here, because, they r guaranteed a start.
Posted by: AfriCane | August 25, 2019 at 02:28 PM

I keep thinking that too... but, they just keep going to Wisconsin...

Herbieibis

Calling all high school offensive tackles, that's all we need before the rocketship takes off. Da "U" needs you!

Herbieibis

Either we get better quality linemen that u need to run a pro style offense or spread here we come.

AfriCane

So much talk about how better we r and how we will go undefeated after this one. PLEASE, EVERYONE STOP TALKING. we r not promised shit. Let’s just watch.

roachcane77

PLEASE, EVERYONE STOP TALKING. we r not promised shit.
Posted by: AfriCane | August 25, 2019 at 03:49 PM


I agree. We were handed a game on a silver platter, and proceeded to puke all over it...

We have not won a game in 2019.

We are 0-1.

Killerbeez41

Overall, very good game to watch. But we have to protect the ball better, get the plays in quicker, and figure out a way to protect the QB on longer routes. The backs did ok with some help, but there were times where it wasn't good enough or there wasn't any. Impressed with Enos and Williams. Williams has to check the ball down or throw the ball away. He ran out of bounds and lost yards on some plays. On D, WTF were the LBs doing? They were making it up as they went or just doing their own thing. Come on vets, do your job! Keep getting better Canes and keep fighting. We will get in the win column.

Native

Man I had a 100 X the fun in our former house of misery Camping World than I did in Jerry's World last year.
Call it a moral victory or whatever but me and my granddaughter danced the turnover chain Rumba in front of thousands of Gators almost without ceasing last night and it felt good. They hated our guys. Ha
Gonna rewatch the game tonight and I may feel differently then.

Native

Guts and guys. ha

Native

raizecane
so its 2:45 AM and I just got home from the game......All I can say is it was a damn home game for Florida with about 50K fans there.....But Canes were represented....I was stuck in the middle of Gator country and did my best not beating the crap out of some of them....phucking idiots. But a couple of them told me I was pretty cool....and I was like "you fuckers are so lucky".

Anyway, I am proud the way we played and the future is bright.

Posted by: raizecane | August 25, 2019 at 02:54 AM

Dude where were our fans... Raizecane, Native, Deja Rae were there.lol

I figured out why we had trouble finding you, our buddy with the tickets was only a half a block from you and we got the two locations confused.... We from the country ...

BigWindyCane

I saw this post and thought it was interesting. Not sure if I agree 100%, but I think some of it is fair:

Offense:
Cam'Ron Harris - 86.2 (15)
DeeJay Dallas - 72.5 (56)
Navaughn Donaldson - 64.5 (71)
DJ Scaife - 62.6 (71)
Corey Gaynor - 62.6 (71)
Jeff Thomas - 61.7 (54)
Brevin Jordan - 61.6 (62)
Mark Pope - 61.1 (2 snaps)
Mike Harley - 59.1 (46)
Realus George - 58.6 (5 snaps)
Brian Hightower - 57.3 (4 snaps)
KJ Osborn - 57.0 (71)
Tate Martell - 56.0 (15)
Jarren Williams - 54.6 (71)
John Campbell Jr. - 36.7 (71)
Zion Nelson - 35.8 (71)
Will Mallory - 31.3 (25)

Defense:
Scott Patchan - 75.9 (43)
Gregory Rousseau - 73.7 (14)
Gilbert Frierson - 72.2 (12)
Jonathan Garvin - 70.4 (49)
Chigozie Nnoruka - 69.7 (11)
Jonathan Ford - 69.5 (46)
Amari Carter - 69.5 (55)
Trajan Bandy - 67.5 (54)
Robert Knowles - 65.7 (16)
Pat Bethel - 65.5 (37)
Romeo Finley - 65.1 (36)
TeCory Couch - 64.9 (12)
Gurvan Hall Jr. - 63.3 (52)
Zach McCloud - 61.1 (9 snaps)
Jordan Miller - 58.7 (4 snaps)
Trevon Hill - 57.8 (15)
Al Blades Jr. - 55.4 (57)
Michael Pinckney - 48.2 (48)
Shaq Quarterman - 44.5 (57)

BigWindyCane

According to PFF, true freshman left tackle Zion Nelson allowed seven quarterback pressures while right tackle John Campbell allowed six quarterback pressures. Nelson committed one penalty on the night. PFF gave Nelson a 1.4 (out of 100) pass blocking grade. Nelson did earn a 55.8 run blocking grade.

Campbell wasn’t much better at right tackle, according to PFF, being called for three penalties. Campbell’s pass blocking grade was a 43.7.

On the positive side according to PFF, Donaldson did not allow a single pressure for the entire game. PFF graded Donaldson out with a 87.8 pass blocking grade. It appears Donaldson is thriving at his natural position.

With Gaynor and Scaife also grading at 62.6 respectively, it appears the Canes don’t have an offensive line problem, the Canes have an offensive tackle problem.

CaneWarrior

Sota,
I will give 86 another week (and hopefully he’ll have returned by then )to get his contact information so that I can send him mine .
Many thanks
Aloha

Hassan

F the Gators


that is all, From Austalia Mates

IraqiCane

Ha!!! Tell 'em Hassan!!!

Terrance Sullivan

Go Canes! Beat UNC! That is All!

Sarasota 'cane

Posted by: CaneWarrior | August 26, 2019 at 12:13 AM

Aloha my friend and I will wait for your contact info!!

I'm with Terrance. Beat UNC. I'm glad we have an extra week to prepare. We can fix a lot of what went wrong on Saturday before the UNC game.

Go 'canes!!

Old Skool

Vinny Jr. to get a lot of reps for the Bucs against Dallas.

The shoulder injury to Gabbert means Ryan Griffin will be elevated to the No. 2 quarterback. Starter Jameis Winston is not expected to play at Dallas Thursday. Coach Bruce Arians doesn’t want to risk playing Griffin very long, meaning Testaverde will get a lot of reps in the game.

solarcane

" Campbell’s pass blocking grade was a 43.7."

So basically if he was a restaurant he would have poisoned an entire city.

Herbieibis

Manny can sugar coat it all he wants but those 2 dudes have a lonnnnnng way to go. Nelson, after coming in at 240, should be RS this season, get those 4 games in. It also doesn't say to much about our depth.

Terrance Sullivan

Well I have a bigger problem with those 4 Star Busts on our Offensive Line and they were at least decent Zion would not be starting! That's just like people complaining about Tate getting reps at WR. Mark Pope and Mike Hartley need to step the Bleep up. Florida top 2 corners were concerned with KJ and Jeff and that was a perfect time for those 2 to show up and once again they didn't do much. It's beyond time for these so called South Florida Ballers to get it done because they are 4 Star Busts up until now. Man Up or Step Aside!

Terrance Sullivan

I'm with Terrance. Beat UNC. I'm glad we have an extra week to prepare. We can fix a lot of what went wrong on Saturday before the UNC game.

Go 'canes!!

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | August 26, 2019 at 09:38 AM
Yes Sir

MLAlumni1970

Will the game be televised in Florida in 2 weeks??

canezilla

Way more gaytor fans at the game, Nightmare getting out of that area, Miami should be able to handle the coastal, Anything after that no way

solarcane

That's just like people complaining about Tate getting reps at WR. Mark Pope and Mike Hartley need to step the Bleep up. Florida top 2 corners were concerned with KJ and Jeff

sully
This is correct. if Williams had any time at all to get to his 3ed receiver Martell would have been catching passes Hartley should have worked to be on the field for.
Martell probably works harder than Hartley, even though Hartley has all the tools to be starting.

We still have a few guys that think they are entitled because of their high school careers.

solarcane

OGV,

We could possibly be seeing the emergence of

Turf Face and Jitters part two, with Williams and Kosi

solarcane

Believe me Manny will be gunning for Mack Brown for firing him.
Giving up 550 yds in one game does call for a little reprimand though.

solarcane

2001 Canes O line best in college football history

McKinnie
Haji-Rasolui
Romberg
Bibla
Gonzalez
Joseph
Wilkins
Rodriguez
Fantigrassi
Carey

How the heck do you get a line good enough that Joseph backs up McKinnie and Carey backs up Gonzalez?

herbieibis

Aside from Osborne, all them WR's need to step up. We have all this speed and so called talent and yet they can't get open. Maybe they were but Williams had somebody in his grill all night long. It just blows The Herb's mind watching college football games, that these teams have WR'S running wide open and 90% of the time we catch it and hardly ever get yards after the catch, save for a bubble screen. When's the last time we caught a ball on a slant over the middle and ran 20 or more yards with it?

herbieibis

I get you Big Tee about dem $ star bust, the few that we have but Searles, didn't do those boys no favors. Goes back to recruiting also bringing in guard type plyers and not getting kids that can play tackle. Move Sciafe back to tackle and Campbell inside where he belongs. I think we could then get by with one greenhorn tackle as opposed to 2.

solarcane

Press saying Enos taking the loss harder than anyone on the team....
Pissed

DAN ENOS NOW ON JARREN WILLIAMS: "He did not play well enough for us to win the football game, that’s first and foremost

solarcane

For sully

"Martell clocked a blazing 3.96 in the 20-yard shuttle the summer before his senior season at Bishop Gorman. He added a 36.8-inch vertical jump. For a comparison, current Miami wide receiver Mike Harley, who operates primarily out of the slot, ran a 4.0 in the short shuttle coming out of high school and had a 34.4-inch vert."

UMike

On the pass that Thomas dropped in the end zone...if Williams looks to his left he has Martell wide open for TD. Tate ran a great route but Williams looked right the whole way.

Terrance Sullivan

Good Stuff Solar and Herb!

Terrance Sullivan

JW got to check off and come back to Tate for the TD. Even though Jeff should have caught that TD pass!

Terrance Sullivan

Herb, Solar are yall joining UMike and Yours Truly for the UNC Game in Chapel Hill in 12 days!

BigWindyCane1

" Campbell’s pass blocking grade was a 43.7."

So basically if he was a restaurant he would have poisoned an entire city.

Posted by: solarcane | August 26, 2019 at 10:24 AM

Campbell wasn't very good. Nelson had a 1.5 pass blocking grade. I have never seen a pass blocking grade that low.

Again, we didn't have an offensive line problem on Saturday, we had an offensive tackle problem. It can only get better as the season goes along -- it has to get better because it cannot be worse.

solarcane

Sully working on going, moving some stuff around
If Miami Game on ACCN now wife says

solarcane

UF Miami game I mean

CGNC


Turf Face and Jitters part two, with Williams and Kosi

Posted by: solarcane | August 26, 2019 at 12:39 PM

This made me LOL! I hope it is not true!

CGNC

I am thinking that I got Perry confused with Williams in the spring game the other year - one of them was pretty mobile - but JW did not look like it Saturday night.

Enos is right - he did NOT play well enough. But Enos did not really help him when he was struggling. Throw a deep ball to get them to back off. Diaz on QAM earlier blaming the defense for missed tackles.

CGNC

Solar, Martell is probably thinking "Glad I didn't get that starting job" lol.

Terrance Sullivan

No we had a Offensive Line Problem I saw far too many times The RG and LG Blocking Air while the C get bull rushed especially after a UF Time Out! SMH!

Terrance Sullivan

Solar Okay Cool! Yessss the Game and the Bethune Cookman Game will also be on ACCN!

KYcane

Life is good

Got my copy of Blue Mind

Thanks Solar

BigWindyCane1

JT is good, but the Canes really haven't had a #1 receiver since Ahmmon Richards, and perhaps also Berrios in terms of being capable of making plays for your QB and your team.

JT's muffed punt was obviously critical, and the dropped TD catch is what your #1 receiver is supposed to make, even against Henderson. This was the type of game against a rival where legends can be made. There are few opportunities, and you have to make the most out of those opportunities when they present themselves.

As far as the other receivers like Harley, Pope, Hightower, etc., it is hard to catch the ball when you are not in the game and you are not targeted.

As was mentioned here on this blog and also by both CMD and Enos, there were a few deep throws and checkdowns that were there, and those were not made for a variety of reasons. Whether it was the QB didn't see it, held on to the ball too long or (as more often the case) the tackles allowed a pressure or a sack. All of that played a role.

Frankly, I have never been a big fan of JT's attitude, but he is talented. I am pulling for JT but I need to see more before I label him a true #1 WR. The season is long and he will be given his opportunity to shine.

KYcane


That's just like people complaining about Tate getting reps at WR. Mark Pope and Mike Hartley need to step the Bleep up.

sully
This is correct.....
Martell probably works harder than Hartley, even though Hartley has all the tools to be starting.

Posted by: solarcane | August 26, 2019 at 12:36 PM

Martell reminds me of Edelman or Berrios

KYcane

Field position sucked as well

The 4th fkd up special teams play no one mentioned was the turds downing the ball inside the 5

Sarasota 'cane

We knew we had o-line issues going in. IMO the the 3 glaring Special Teams gaffes (fake punt, muffed punt return, and missed FG) cost us the game. Those 3 gaffes cost us 17 points in a game decided by 4 points! That's what I'm struggling with today. For all our weaknesses UM lost on 3 coachable mistakes.

Those ST problems and penalties can be fixed, the o-line problems are going to linger for at least another season or 2.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda...

Go 'canes!!

herbieibis

Tee, don't know yet about the game. I can go but have to work the next day. Only 3:15 from home but being at 8 and getting home 2:30-3, just don't know yet. U going. Would love to meet some of U guys. Definetly going to Duke.

herbieibis

The catch in the end zone would have been a tough one but the good WR's haul that in. Ball thrown before he turn his head, no doubt TD but it was thrown a little late.
Thought Williams played about as good as expected. Took a beating like Francois did against Bama a few years ago.

WR routes have to be sharper. Glad Enos pissed. Hell this is game we should have won. Just got to get over the dam hump of losing road games against good teams and also playing like slobs.

All fixable stuff but a lot of leaks to plug.

Looking at Rivals recruiting because that is what The Herb loves to do, as of right now our favorite teams, Clemson, LSU, Georgia, Bama and OSU have a combined total of 39 of the top 100 players and counting.

Terrance Sullivan

Herb Yes Me and UMike will be there. I totally understand if you cant make it I will be at Duke Game as well so We can link up there if you cant make UNC Game!

orange 'n green in the vein

Posted by: CGNC | August 26, 2019 at 03:02 PM

I don't really think it is because it's been a while and Ralph's overlooking a few key things into why those predecessors are probably going to end up the worse duo. Their lines were better by several margins compared to the two current ones Perry and Williams have had blocking for them first of all. Skill position talent was down though for Turf Face and Jitters which just brought out the ample plethora of worse in both of them. Also, while Perry has social media use issues just like Turf Face, he at least shows some potential to this point, while Williams is slightly less of a quitter than Jitters so far. Marve/Harris is probably the better QB duo comparison that's fairer to the current roster but it is tough to argue too hard against it also because it takes a lot of bad play to break a Turf Face single game sack record admittedly! Guessing the starter job is open against the always tough 'bye' opponent this week.

Posted by: CGNC | August 26, 2019 at 03:03 PM

Oh come on, only five of them on the first TD UF scored, that's not even more than half the defense! If only there was somebody in charge of teaching all these seniors on defense on down the roster these last few seasons on the staff who could have coached them up better on how to bring the ball carrier down, that would have fixed that problem, now who could have been responsible for that at Miami under the previous regime, hmmmmm . . .

herbieibis

OGV,
Part of the problem is our DB's look like tooth picks. Our db's need to be in the 190 range. Dam if most of them look like they weigh 175 if that.

solarcane

Life is good

Got my copy of Blue Mind

Thanks Solar

Posted by: KYcane | August 26, 2019 at 03:53 PM

Ky
I'm thinking you cope with stuff pretty well already just by sticking with them Canes, that book will bring out the best in you

solarcane

Solar, Martell is probably thinking "Glad I didn't get that starting job" lol.

Posted by: CGNC | August 26, 2019 at 03:06 PM

CG,
Yea Martell was the first to congratulate Williams when he got to the sideline. Tate probably said "Keep it up dog, I can dig this not getting blasted on my ass every play"

solarcane

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | August 26, 2019 at 04:31 PM

I think Williams has a great shot at most sacks in a season if he concentrates.
I got a feeling we are gonna see a few balls thrown 10 rows up in the seats next game just to keep Enos from running on the field and strangling him.

Turf Face was a hopeless romantic and bona fide Lady Killer in his Walter Mitty universe. I think Williams actually wants to be Big Man On Campus
for all the right reasons. (see what I did there?)

solarcane

Didn't Amari and Blades get props for their tackling all summer?
I thought 5 would have trouble covering guys, but he couldn't tackle either.

herbieibis

Looks like no changes yet on the Oh line per Diaz. I guess it's the school of hard knocks for Nelson, Campbell and of course the beneficiary of this learning on the job is Williams. He'll learn to start grabbing some face mask and telling them to block.

herbieibis

Solar,
They had the Deon Sanders syndrome.

herbieibis

I believe Coach Diaz is sinking or swimming with these starters and we either win with them or we are losing but the outcome will be for the betterment of the team down the road. Being a former coach, I love the attitude, may not make the fans happy, but this team in the end will be better for it. Got to grow up sooner or later and the message here is step up or get stepped on.

raizecane

Enos said at press conference that Williams was responsible for 5 of the 10 sacks. Missed a lot of wide open receivers as well.......said his QB play was "uncharacteristic" from how he practiced.

solarcane

herb,
You could tell when Diaz was saying one day these guys will be sophomores that he knows after all the good and bad this season, Clemson is going to beat us by what ever they feel fitting and next year we might beat a good team once in awhile.

herbieibis

I think in laymen terms, he's saying it ain't always going to be this way, so enjoy the bumpy ride until new tar gets laid down, which will be just in time for the season opener against Bama in 2021. The big key though, can he be a finisher in recruiting. We all know The U's albetros has been the line play and being able to recruit quality.
Next year will be a little rough, as we have to replace Pink, Shaq, McCloud and Romeo. looks like Steed and Bradley have a long road back and that's an If, so our LB's will be greenhorns.

solarcane

When you know you have become irrelevant to your fan base.

A higher percentage of homes in Spartanburg SC watched the UF UM game than the percentage of people in Miami Ft Lauderdale.

solarcane

new tar gets laid down,

Posted by: herbieibis | August 26, 2019 at 07:17 PM

Reminds me of Golden's last days

TonyCane

First games of notable head coaches:

PETE CARROLL (at USC)
09/01/2001 (W) San Jose State (3-9) 21-10

NICK SABAN (at Toledo)
09/08/1990 (W) Miami, OH (5-5-1) 20-14

BOB STOOPS (at Oklahoma)
09/11/1999 (W) Indiana State (non 1A) 49-0

JIMMY JOHNSON (at Oklahoma State)
09/08/1979 (W) North Texas (5-7) 25-7

URBAN MEYER (at Bowling Green)
09/01/2001 (W) Missouri (4-7) 20-13

KIRBY SMART (at Georgia)
09/03/2016 (W) North Carolina (8-5) 33-24

SCOTT FROST (at UCF)
09/03/2016 (W) S Carolina State (non-1A) 38-0

LES MILES (at Oklahoma State)
09/01/2001 (L) S. Mississippi (6-5) 9-17

Unless Florida drops off the map this year and severely underperforms, non of the above had as tough of a game one as CMD. Most had close games, and the only two blowouts were against non-1A schools.

CoCane

Bottom line:

If the frosh OT's improve game to game, this team will be a big problem...

solarcane

Tony yea,
think of red shirt Freshman Kosars first start...
loses to Florida by like 20 some points, how did the rest of that season go?

BigWindyCane

Enos said at press conference that Williams was responsible for 5 of the 10 sacks. Missed a lot of wide open receivers as well.......said his QB play was "uncharacteristic" from how he practiced.

Posted by: raizecane | August 26, 2019 at 07:00 PM

💯

BigWindyCane

Bottom line:

If the frosh OT's improve game to game, this team will be a big problem...

Posted by: CoCane | August 26, 2019 at 10:07 PM

💯

The freshmen offensive tackles are the glowing weakness on the team right now, but that won’t last forever. They can and must improve. But I also believe that the Canes need some improvement in every position on offense and special teams, and the defense can also improve. For example, CMD pointed out that Redwine and Jaquan would have made the tackle on Toney’s long TD run, and would have intercepted or deflected that long throw by Franks to Hammond near the end of the game. CMD referred to Jaquan as the eraser. Hall and Carter might be more talented, and may have a higher ceiling, but they will have to grow up quick.

Overall, the talent is there and I believe Jimmy Johnson is right in his assessment that this team will be better by the end of the season under this coaching staff.

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