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September 28, 2019

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Herbieibis

First, more than I can say for us.

Terrance Sullivan

Outstanding Work Soupster!

TonyCane

When the culture truly changes...the Canes will change.

We can’t simply out talent people. Most of our opponents are not Bethune. The margin between a collection of all three stars and a group of three stars and four stars is not that wide. Execution and the burning desire to win, always, are what needs to be in place. Each missed assignemnt, each dropped pass, each touchdown given up must be viewed by the individual as a matter of loss of respect. Victory must not merely be desired or the goal, but mandatory. Anything less should be unthinkable. And entering the field each player must be confident that they have given their absolute in preparation. Confident in themselves and each other.

Once that culture is in place, we roll.

alpine

Remember when Scott Frost was a thing?
Good times.
Posted by: Go Canes!! | September 28, 2019 at 08:49 PM

Plane engines warming, printing presses churning away...Dabo in danger!
Posted by: TonyCane | September 28, 2019 at 09:08 PM

^^^LOL on both!

. . . and i liked the article

. . . and i like the craziness of college football

alpine

. . . and i'm grateful it's fsu and not us playing clemson next week

. . . something tells me the nc-scare is gonna focus some minds in carolina this week; at the end of which they're gonna put the clems on fsu

Go Canes!!

Remember back when Mike Leach was a thing?

Good times...

Gin & Tonic


We will be bowl eligible. Worst case scenario is a 6 win season, presuming non offensive improvement. I have faith that this staff will continue To improve.

Posted by: TonyCane | September 28, 2019 at 09:49

I am posting this while sitting on the only bowl that the offensive line is eligible to play in.

TonyCane

Maybe our new offense can be that crazy spread formation where there is just a center and everyone else is lined up as wide receiver.

Go Canes!!


We will be bowl eligible. Worst case scenario is a 6 win season, presuming non offensive improvement. I have faith that this staff will continue To improve.

Posted by: TonyCane | September 28, 2019 at 09:49


I feel this will be the case as well, but right now Manny is not inspiring confidence.

CGNC

Once that culture is in place, we roll.

Posted by: TonyCane | September 29, 2019 at 12:25 AM

Indeed

AeroCane

Need more than culture- need better recruiting and coaching!

BigWindyCane

The Canes defense has been very stout against the run. Their third down defense (even with last week’s breakdowns) is among the best in the country. It’s pass defense ratings have been good, although the pass defense does need some improvement.

Most of the problems that need to be fixed are on the offensive side of the ball, starting with the offensive line. Red zone and third down conversions, penalties and missed assignments are among the worst in the nation.

Jarren has been great on the short passes, but he needs to go deep. Maybe having Pope back will help. Jarren’s issue has been that he has to see the receiver open before he throws it. That is allowing opponents to sneak a safety into the box and play closer to the line of scrimmage to stop the run. Jarren has to read coverages early and go deep to JT4 and Pope.

As for that offensive line, it is the worst I have seen in over two decades, and it’s really the two true freshmen who aren’t ready to play yet. They may be ready down the line, but they look like high school players going up against grown men. OL is the position where experience counts the most, and the Canes might have the most inexperienced OL in the ACC.

Of course, inexperience doesn’t explain everything. Scaife, Gaynor and Donaldson have had their moments, but some of their problems have been trying to compensate for the two freshmen. It’s hard to believe that none of the players on the bench can’t play better

alpine

culture:
- i liked whatever culture we had on the defensive side since manny was d-coordinator . . . and i'm assuming the few steps backward regarding pass defense & 3rd/4th downs is more of needing time to replace what left

- i'm assuming this culture thing is mainly to do with the qb's, who had to work with junior richt, the OL and maybe the receivers?

- or how do you all understand this?

86Cane

Remember when Go Canes was a thing?

Yeah, me neither.

alpine

I am posting this while sitting on the only bowl that the offensive line is eligible to play in.
Posted by: Gin & Tonic | September 29, 2019 at 07:36 AM

bing bing bing:
we have a winner of the annual "Bowl Me Over" comment of the year

your winnings:
a bowl of exlax suppositories to enable you and your friends to purge any intestinal culture that is clogging up your power surges

yes, with exlax, you too can have winning runs

86Cane

alpine for the win.

BigWindyCane

yes, with exlax, you too can have winning runs
Posted by: alpine | September 29, 2019 at 10:19 AM

86Cane
alpine for the win.

Posted by: 86Cane | September 29, 2019 at 10:20 AM

🤣🤣🤣🤣🏈

Go Canes!!

Posted by: 86Cane | September 29, 2019 at 10:19 AM


It was a short but glorious time.

TonyCane

culture:
- i liked whatever culture we had on the defensive side since manny was d-coordinator . . . and i'm assuming the few steps backward regarding pass defense & 3rd/4th downs is more of needing time to replace what left

- i'm assuming this culture thing is mainly to do with the qb's, who had to work with junior richt, the OL and maybe the receivers?

- or how do you all understand this?

Posted by: alpine | September 29, 2019 at 10:17 AM

I take it that it is much, much more on the offensive side.

solarcane

Remember back when Butch Davis was a thing... im just saying

solarcane

There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things.”
– Niccolo Machiavelli

solarcane

The Too Dead Crew

Miami’s ten lowest graded players according to PFF
ByDAVID LAKE Sep 28, 9:00 AM
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Earlier this week, we highlighted the ten Miami Hurricanes who have earned the best Pro Football Focus grades through the first four games.

You can view that article here.

This article is a look at the Hurricanes that haven't graded out well through the first four games, according to PFF.


Pro Football Focus is an advanced statistics company that watches and grades every game and every player across the FBS level after watching each game multiple times.

PFF provides an interesting look with their stats that go beyond the traditional counting stats we are accustomed to.


After four games, the Hurricanes have a 2-2 overall record and are 0-1 in ACC play.

Miami lost both of their games against Power Five opponents, 24-20 against Florida and 28-25 against North Carolina. Both games were away from Hard Rock Stadium.


The Hurricanes returned to Hard Rock Stadium for the next two games and earned victories over FCS opponent Bethune-Cookman and Group of Five opponent Central Michigan.

Miami is 19-3 in games played at Hard Rock Stadium since 2016, when Manny Diaz arrived as defensive coordinator.


After that home stretch, the Hurricanes travel to play at Pittsburgh and at Florida State. UM will then play their final home game against Louisville and then the Hurricanes will play away from Hard Rock Stadium against FIU and at Duke.


Note: The minimum snap count to be on this list is 100 snaps

DT JON FORD - 61.7 GRADE

(Photo: Andrew Ivins, 247Sports)
Snaps: 154


According to PFF, Ford has been an inconsistent tackler, earning a 19.4 tackling grade on the year. He has missed three tackles, according to PFF. Ford has earned a 65.0 pass rushing grade on the year with five quarterback pressures on 82 pass rushing snaps. Ford has totaled two tackles and 0.5 tackles for loss.


DB ROBERT KNOWLES - 61.5 GRADE

(Photo: Andrew Ivins, 247Sports)
Snaps: 157


Knowles has the top tackling grade on the team at a 89.5 grade in that phase, but he has a 62.2 run defense grade and a 62.6 coverage grade. Knowles has allowed four receptions for 55 yards on the year. He has totaled 17 tackles.


CB TRAJAN BANDY - 60.8 GRADE

(Photo: Andrew Ivins, 247Sports)
Snaps: 211


According to PFF, Bandy has gotten off to a slow start in 2019, receiving a 41.6 run defense grade and a 61.7 coverage grade. Bandy has allowed eight receptions for 123 yards and one touchdown on the season. Bandy has ten tackles and two sacks on the year. PFF has given Bandy a 80.9 pass rushing grade on the season, totaling four quarterback pressures.


OL JAKAI CLARK - 60.1 GRADE

(Photo: Andrew Ivins, 247Sports)
Snaps: 184


According to PFF, Clark has been solid as a pass blocker, earning a 71.0 grade in that regard. PFF has given Clark a 60.1 run blocking grade on the year. Clark has allowed four quarterback pressures and has been called for one penalty.


CB AL BLADES JR. - 60.0 GRADE

(Photo: Andrew Ivins, 247Sports)
Snaps: 164


Blades has impressed PFF with his run defense, earning a 73.8 grade in that phase. His coverage grade, however, is a 59.6 on the season. Blades has allowed five receptions for 71 yards through four games. He has totaled 13 tackles and one interception on the year.


DE SCOTT PATCHAN - 59.4 GRADE

(Photo: Andrew Ivins, 247Sports)
Snaps: 157


According to PFF, Patchan has been an inconsistent tackler this year, with a 41.3 tackling grade. PFF has credited him with three missed tackles. PFF has given Patchan a 64.9 pass rushing grade. He has totaled 11 quarterback pressures on 94 pass rushing snaps. Patchan has totaled 11 tackles and one sack on the year.


DB AMARI CARTER - 58.7 GRADE

(Photo: Andrew Ivins, 247Sports)
Snaps: 162


PFF has given Carter a 58.5 coverage grade for the season. He’s been targeted seven times and has allowed four receptions for 57 yards. His best grade for a game this season was against Florida when he earned a 67.4 overall grade. Carter has 12 tackles and one interception on the year.


OL ZION NELSON - 47.0 GRADE

(Photo: Andrew Ivins, 247Sports)
Snaps: 262


According to PFF, Nelson has not impressed as a pass rusher, earning a 22.6 pass blocking grade. PFF has counted Nelson as giving up 14 quarterback pressures and four sacks. He’s been called for one penalty on the year.


TE WILL MALLORY - 45.8 GRADE

(Photo: Andrew Ivins, 247Sports)
Snaps: 122


Mallory has totaled three receptions for 70 yards and one touchdown this season. According to PFF, Mallory has been targeted six times and has been called for two penalties. He has dropped two passes.

solarcane

Big Al on fire

herbieibis

All but Bandy pretty much greenhorns, as far as starting. Knowles has been an albetros since he has been there. Ain't no waiver wire for that Oh line help we need. Just got to take like a man this year and hope these humiliations this year will translate into greatness on down the road. Dee will be okay but Baker needs to be more aggressive on third down. DT's are average in the pass rush and with no push up the middle those DB"S asses are left swinging in the breeze to long.
Top 6 teams will remain the same as long as they keep scooping up all these top players. we have to close that gapping whole in the barb wire that is allowing the top players to flee up North.

To words Win and SPAAAAARED!

solarcane

Mallory in only 122 snaps goes from projected All ACC tight end status to potential worst starting player on the team.


solarcane

Soup,
I admire your love for The U.

I think with the current circumstances and understanding that Manny should have said "This season you will get a glimpse of the New Miami",

You get a complete do over on your decision of shutting down Canespace if we go 8-4, and in fact move the axe drop to next season if we go 8-4

Either way you know I'm with you a 100 percent. I know how many times I have had to talk you down off the edge but believe me I feel your pain my man.

86Cane

"Pro Football Focus is an advanced statistics company that watches and grades every game and every player across the FBS level after watching each game multiple times."

Can you imagine having this as your job? Every day, every week, for 4-6 months of every year?

I mean initially it might seem like a good idea and a really cool job BUT seriously, man, get a life!

86Cane

Either way you know I'm with you a 100 percent. I know how many times I have had to talk you down off the edge but believe me I feel your pain my man.

Posted by: solarcane | September 29, 2019 at 12:47 PM

Love runs deeep.

BUT What really burns my britches is you look at Mack Brown at UNC, an experienced coach sure but not considered a world beater or top 10 coach by any means. He goes to UNC in his first year, a team that won 2 games in 2018, and lost to Miami 47-10. Then in one off-season he transforms the team "with the other guys players" he inherited and he beats Miami and ALMOST beats mighty Clemson a few weeks later.

No where do you hear him or their fans saying "Well, he needs three years to recruit his own players". No he goes out and gets it done no excuses. I like that, I like that a lot. Can we get some of what he is cooking? Hell, I would even eat collard greens if I had to?

solarcane

I get it soup.
I always thought Olympic Swimming Lifeguard was a pretty pimp job.

Terrance Sullivan

Soupster Total Agreement!

86Cane

From CBS sports:

Some of that was a result of North Carolina's game plan, which left safeties deep in the field to help its young cornerbacks against Higgins, Justyn Ross and the rest of Clemson's future pro wide receivers. With defenders out of the box and away from the line of scrimmage, Clemson leaned heavily on the ground game and short passes that were covered up well by North Carolina's defense.

"Obviously we made enough mistakes to lose the game," Dabo Swinney said after the game, noting that they'd much rather learn lessons from a win than a loss. "They probably outplayed us. We made critical mistakes at critical times. We'll grow from it."

Swinney routinely mentioned the penalties, false starts and mistakes on offense that kept the Tigers from ever getting into a rhythm on offense. He credited North Carolina's gameplan of slowing down the game, forcing Clemson to put together long drives and eating up clock on offense. In a shortened game, mistakes are more costly, and Swinney said the Tigers' errors played right into the hands of the Tar Heels, who were every bit up for the challenge with No. 1 in town.

QUESTION: What's a "game plan" and where do we find one?

KYcane

Posted by: 86Cane | September 29, 2019 at 02:01 PM

A-fkn men brother

86Cane

You get a complete do over on your decision of shutting down Canespace if we go 8-4, and in fact move the axe drop to next season if we go 8-4

Posted by: solarcane | September 29, 2019 at 12:47 PM

Probably the only way Canespace will actually ever end is if I come on here and cry more than I laugh out loud. Kind of like any relationship as long it brings more joy than pain we should be fine. Once that equation flips upside down it will be "time for me to fly" (REO reference).

Terrance Sullivan

Soupster, KYCane y'all are going to make the Sunshine and Lollipops Crowd be very angry with y'all they already mad with me lol 😂😂 😂😂 😂.

86Cane

We all need some sunshine and lollipops to help balance out the dark clouds and collard greens I guess?

solarcane

Soup 10-4
I know,you know I know some of pure hostile BS you had to put up with on here at times, and the disappointing seasons year after year.

While burn out, in fighting, and other crap dismantled some pretty good Cane blogs,( to keep with the blog article theme,) you fought the good fight,you finished the race and you kept the faith.

solarcane

Bama back at number one
Right now I think Ohio State and Georgia could both beat Alabama and Clemson

1 Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Georgia
4. Ohio State
5. LSU
6. Oklahoma
7. Auburn
8. Wisconsin
9. Notre Dame
10. Florida
11. Texas
12. Penn State
13. Oregon
14. Iowa
15. Washington
16. Boise State
17. Utah
18. UCF
19. Michigan
20. Arizona State
21. Oklahoma State
22. Wake Forest
23. Virginia
24. SMU
25. Texas A&M

solarcane


The USA Today/Amway Coaches Poll

1. Alabama (29)
2. Clemson (30)
3. Georgia (1)
4. Oklahoma
5. Ohio State (4)
6. LSU
7. Auburn
8. Florida
9. Wisconsin
10. Notre Dame
11. Penn State
12. Texas
13. Oregon
14. Iowa
15. Boise State
16. Washington
17. Utah
18. Michigan
19. UCF
20. Wake Forest
21. Texas A&M
22. Virginia
23T. Michigan State
23T. Memphis
25. Oklahoma State

alpine

Soupster, KYCane y'all are going to make the Sunshine and Lollipops Crowd be very angry with y'all they already mad with me lol 😂😂 😂😂.
Posted by: Terrance Sullivan | September 29, 2019 at 02:31 PM

c'mon terrance; get your head right, sir

"sunshine & lollipops"
WTF you talkin' 'bout

. . . it's fairy dust!!!!!!!!! smh

TonyCane

With Mack, it comes down to two things:

1) What sort of OL did he inherit?
2) How good is Sam Howell?

Mack thrived at Texas for most of his tenure because of how weak the Big 12 was outside of OU, and how cupcake strong Texas kept its out of conference schedule. He also had back to back program changing QBs.

Is Howell his next Colt McCoy, and did he enter the year with a decent (ie better than Miami) offensive line? If so, it’s not surprising to see the sudden turnaround.

alpine

dolphins are like a hurricanes graveyard this year:

- gerald willis loses an arm
- danny isadora out for the year
- allen hurns concussed and out the last 2 games; no known return

. . . but walton still churning out yards; at least in garbage time

- oh, and denzel perryman plays against the fins today and goes down injured (couldn't tell if he came back again)

<<<<<<<<<<

p.s. tony: i thought your 4:04 post was an interesting take

BigWindyCane

The Canes are an 11 point favorite at home next week against Virginia Tech, but the Canes are now underdogs at FSU and Duke, and a slight favorite at home against Virginia.

This is a stretch where CMD could silence his critics and boost his recruiting.

7-5 seems probable, but 8-4, or 9-3 is a good season. Anything less than 9-3 makes it difficult to win the Coastal

herbieibis

Mack Brown is average coach, even though he did win a ship. Can't play at a high level for 12 weeks. These are the games that separate the big boys from the also rans. Win the big games and win the close ones too. Carolina playing hard but I believe they had half their OH line returning and maybe Searles has been rejuvenated or maybe Barry is having to clean up his effed up techniques here and he has yet to eff up Carolina's Oh line. Brown does have some good veteran coaches with him and we have several coaches that are in their 4Th and 5th years.

BigWindyCane

Canes need to win the next two games against Virginia Tech and then Virginia at home, then the Canes will be in the driver’s seat for the Coastal.

BigWindyCane

And if the Canes lose one of the next three home games, the Canes might be effectively eliminated from the Coastal Division race

FANBASE

Posted by: solarcane | September 29, 2019 at 03:15 PM

Are we in the BOTTOM 25? The FANBASE wants to know.
Thank you!

86Cane

. . . it's fairy dust!!!!!!!!! smh

Posted by: alpine | September 29, 2019 at 04:04 PM

Fairy dust is overrated.

That's my story and I'm stickin to it!

nemo2002

And if the Canes lose one of the next three home games, the Canes might be effectively eliminated from the Coastal Division race

Posted by: BigWindyCane | September 29, 2019 at 05:26 PM

If . . . ?

solarcane

Are we in the BOTTOM 25? The FANBASE wants to know.
Thank you!

Posted by: FANBASE | September 29, 2019 at 05:51 PM

As of today we are at #50 and trending down

solarcane

Just when you think you have a lock on being the most impatient,unrealistic,selfish fan base in college football, along come the Hokies and put their left foot in and shake it all about.

"This is the end. Yup, Friday evening ended the 2019 football season. Actually it ended with our loss to Boston College on August 31st. I said, back before that game, that IF Virginia Tech won it, the team will have turned the corner and it could be a really good season. Like many programs, the IF didn’t occur, and so we go to the ELSE condition. This team has not made the turn, and now each game is going to be a “from scratch” battle. The Hokies’ 2019 season is over. The 2020 season begins next week in Coral Gables."

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