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November 10, 2019

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Terrance M Sullivan

Outstanding and Total Agreement Soupster!

BigWindyCane1

💯! Great article Soup!

nemo2002

1 - 2 - 3

Alex D

What's good Legion/Canespace? Long time no post. Happy Veterans Day.

58 Straight

I have to tell you from the bottom of my heart that some of the recent articles I have written for Canespace have been among my best ever. The clarity (the light) has been blinding.

The message has never been clearer. The fog is gone. I think that faith, hope and love started it all. And from there all things have flowed. And for all the times I threatened to shut it down I am glad that I didn't.

I sincerely appreciate all of you who have hung in there and lasted out all of the trying times with me. I have great respect for some who I praised and even some who I have insulted and they still stuck around.

It hasn't always been pretty, or nice, or fun but it has been a wild ride. The blog is fun again and I would like to think that my writing style has improved over time and the joys and sorrows have made it richer all they way.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Go Canes!!

Agree 100%. Well done Soup.

SOUP

Thanks Go Canes, thanks.

Herbieibis

Soup,
I look forward to reading this blog daily. Being up here in North Carolina it's hard to keep up with my Boyz. Thanks for letting me vent my love and frustrations for DA Canes!

solarcane

We have to caution you at this critical time: Don't look into the light!
soup

some of your best advice ever

Tom you know I have your back no matter how many times we disagree, you have given me a lot of smiles, and I count you as a true friend.
You have put up with a lot more of my crap than I would have if the shoe was on the other foot.

Keep doing what you do.

The Word From The Herb

The Herb believes in Manuel but the proof will be how we finish and how good this next recruiting class ends up.
The class so far is a B minus. We have some excellent pieces coming in but in order for us to climb back to the top of the mountain we have to bring in at least 14 four star players or better annually. 12 would be the absolute fewest. The offensive line is the least talented of any of our other position groups. So far we have 3 cruits and one of them is a project. We all know winning cures a lot of ills. I'm not too enamored with our LB cruits at this time. We are missing a game changer, same goes for CB. We can't keep missing in the recruiting game. The one thing missing on this current staff is an ace recruiter.
This team is young and aside from Osborne, loses nothing on offense. Defensively, our LBing could be a big problem next year. McCloud will be about the only experienced guy back and he only played in 4 games.
Enos has to get rid of the pro style. The only time we should be under center is a yard or less. With this line, we ain't fooling nobody. I will say this they are getting better but it's not like the ACC is loaded with superstar talent. 2021 we open with Bama, I guess will see how far we have come.

SOUP

Keep doing what you do.

Posted by: solarcane | November 10, 2019 at 11:56 PM

Thank you. Your friendship means more to me than you know. I have few and they are far between, but the best seem to last. I appreciate that.

SOUP

Thanks for letting me vent my love and frustrations for DA Canes!

Posted by: Herbieibis | November 10, 2019 at 11:37 PM

It's what we do here. My pleasure.

Harry Miller

Thanks for this blog Soup. You are a special person and very talented in many ways'to be able to overcome all the adversity that it takes to keep putting to gather this very informative and interesting Blog. You are blessed by all the great individuals that keeps us all caught up with the latest news about the Miami Hurricanes. We all look forward each day to reading what you have created, the greatest blog ever.

I live 40 miles east of San Francisco, but grew up in Miami, not far from the Orange Bowl and love the Miami Hurricanes. If it wasn't for this blog I would hardly know what was going on with my team the "Miami Hurricanes".

I thank all of you for what you contribute to this Blog. We are all a family that is special.

God bless you and every one else on this blog.

.

alpine

soup, your writing is bustin' out 34-13 wins for awhile now

REALLY well done!!!

solar can def take a bow, too, as far as bringing both the whipped creme and the cherry to an excellent canespace

with thanks & appreciation
alpine

alpine

soup - i also loved that #wna (wisconsin never again) post/idea!

if we actually have the chance to see them in a bowl this year, can we turn your words around to "never again wisconsin (naw)"

then we can make t-shirts with things like: "whisky? hell, naw!"

(hmmm, it seemed funnier when it went thru my head as i was waking up this morning)

AeroCane

Loved the article! And I agree, your last few articles have been lights out awesome!

Terrance M Sullivan

Soupster Keep On Rocking Brotha. Love U Man, and Love The Canes!

Old Skool

Soup puts the 'art' in article.

As one who has been blinded by the light, revved up like a douche watchin runners in the night.

Trusting Golden and Richt
Feeling kind of sick
I tripped the merry-go-round.


Old Skool

Then some Baskins and Robbins ice cream?

Posted by: 86Cane | November 10, 2019 at 02:47 PM

Baskin and Robbins??? What about Jackson's in Dania Beach .... Still going strong BTW

Sarasota 'cane

Happy Veteran's Day to all who have served!!

Go Army!!

AeroCane

Manny Diaz - recruits are buying into the vision
That’s great but let’s see some proof with ‘key’ guys
Ie LB, DB, OL especially

orange 'n green in the vein

Luckily Miami will be favored over the bye week and won't turn the light at the end of the tunnel into an oncoming train for at least two more weeks. So with that in mind, beat Duke on the road in the season finale (probably, two more losses would keep them out of a bowl in their last three though so they might be playing spoiler by then) and;

Chokies lose a road game to GT (not likely) and at home to Pitt (maybe).

Virginia loses another Commonwealth Cup game (haven't won since 2003 so good chance of that).

Pitt loses the finale at home to BC (possibly).

UNC loses either of their road games at Pitt or NC State (both possible.)

And Miami will hold the head to head tiebreakers for the three way tie for third with Pitt and UVA.

Georgia Tech and the Chokies have produced six straight upsets in the series, that has to continue or the party is over in the division race.

BigWindyCane1

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Posted by: 58 Straight | November 10, 2019 at 10:57 PM

You are on a roll, Soup! Thanks for the blog.

Happy Veterans Day to all of you Canespacers out there who served our great country in the military! We salute you and honor your service!

solarcane

Baskin and Robbins??? What about Jackson's in Dania Beach .... Still going strong BTW

Posted by: Old Skool | November 11, 2019 at 08:53

My wife's favorite place to go after getting bruised up on Pirates World, rides or trampled at one of their concerts.

I remember "The Kitchen Sink" as being an especially intimidating ice cream Sunday.

solarcane

Big Al,
Thanks for the love brutha

86Cane

I thank all of you for what you contribute to this Blog. We are all a family that is special.

God bless you and every one else on this blog.

Posted by: Harry Miller | November 11, 2019 at 01:56 AM

Thank you my friend.

Old Skool

My wife's favorite place to go after getting bruised up on Pirates World, rides or trampled at one of their concerts.

I remember "The Kitchen Sink" as being an especially intimidating ice cream Sunday.

Posted by: solarcane | November 11, 2019 at 12:15 PM

The big question is which was worse Pirate's World or the Sportarium? BTW Did you see Bowie play Pirates World?

86Cane

The big question is which was worse Pirate's World or the Sportatorium? BTW Did you see Bowie play Pirates World?

Posted by: Old Skool | November 11, 2019 at 01:24 PM

Saw some great concerts at the Hollywood Sportatorium. Saw Skynyrd there just a few weeks before the fatal plane crash. I almost died twice on the way home from that place with all the heavily intoxicated and stoned out of their minds people driving back late at night from that place. You could get a contact high just by breathing the air in that place!

solarcane

here is the Pirates World set list look at the Hall of Fame bands that played or got their start there.
Concerts were about 4 to 6 dollars I think

This list is incredible if you remember how small the Pirates world concert area was.

https://www.setlist.fm/venue/pirates-world-dania-beach-fl-usa-73d736b9.html

 solarcane

almost died twice on the way home from that place with all the heavily intoxicated and stoned out of their minds people driving back late at night from that place.
Posted by: 86Cane | November 11, 2019 at 01:34 PM

soup,
remember that big ditch that ran beside Flamingo Road? Going to the drags or Sporto I remember watching more than one car slide right in there

solarcane

skool,

I missed Bowie
I did see Zep, Beck,Fleet Mac,Faces, Poco, Segar,10 years after,BB king, Paul Butterfield and dozens more

solarcane

Cane Stuff

Dallas again pointed to the player-led meeting before the Pitt game.

“It just came down to who wants to be here,’’ Dallas said. “We had to keep the standard the standard and that’s what it was. Our guys, our seniors and leaders came together and we just said, ‘There’s a standard here and we’re not going to wane for anybody.’’’

After the game, when asked if he felt like “this is finally it and you guys have turned the corner,’’ Quarterman said he didn’t “want to put a label on it, put a ‘new’ whatever.

“I just like the fact that we show up, or we’ve been showing up as a team to play for the last couple of weeks. When we do what we’re supposed to do, we always end up victorious. ...But I’m definitely on the positive about where this program is going to go. Diaz is the guy for the job and he built a staff [that] never lied to us.

“It has always been whether we buy in or not. When we buy in we do special things. So, moving forward, I think definitely, the Hurricanes are going to be a threat.’’

Said Pinckney: “I feel like my job was to not only come back to better myself but to better the program. It’s probably not going to be now, but eventually they’re going to be in the playoff talks, man, and I’m going to be right here being happy because I know I had a part in it.’’

 solarcane

Cane Stuff

Jarren Williams ACC Player of The Week


http://theacc.com/news/2019/11/11/athlete-awards-acc-announces-football-players-of-the-week.aspx

solarcane

Williams third time ACC rookie first time QB,
Pink gets ACC linebacker.

solarcane

Sweet I love eating crow!


QUARTERBACK & ROOKIE – Jarren Williams, Miami, R-Fr., QB, Lawrenceville, Ga.
Set the Miami record and tied the ACC mark with six touchdown passes in Saturday’s 52-27 win over Louisville • Connected on a career-long 67-yard touchdown pass and did not throw an interception for the sixth time in seven career starts • Completed 68.2 percent of his passes (15 of 22) – his best mark since a Week 4 start versus Central Michigan – for 253 yards • Added a career-high 23 rushing yards • First ACC Quarterback of the Week honor of his career and third time as ACC Rookie of the Week.

Terrance M Sullivan

Lol Just Win Out This Team as a whole has used up all their My Bads For The Season. finish 9-4 or Season is A Utter Failure. Go Canes!

solarcane


yes!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1193950079289352192

solarcane

finish 9-4 or Season is A Utter Failure. Go Canes!

Posted by: Terrance M Sullivan | November 11, 2019 at 02:14 PM

I remember when anything less than 10 wins was gonna get Manny fired.

Just hope Wisconsin doesn't lose one more game

solarcane

this one is priceless #2 and #3


https://twitter.com/i/status/1193342120091881473

CGNC


Loved the article! And I agree, your last few articles have been lights out awesome!

Posted by: AeroCane | November 11, 2019 at 04:51 AM

Agreed! LOL, some of us go all the way back to the Orlando Sentinel days!

roachcane77

Agreed! LOL, some of us go all the way back to the Orlando Sentinel days!
Posted by: CGNC | November 11, 2019 at 02:45 PM

As Sun Sentinel alumnus myself... I also agree. (That article about Coach Roach was ESPECIALLY Pulitzer Prize worthy!) LOL

Thanks for all you do SOUP!

solarcane

Omar Kelly, Shandel Richardson, 86Cane/Soup/58

Who always had a better blog about Miami Hurricanes football?

Sarasota 'cane

Agreed! LOL, some of us go all the way back to the Orlando Sentinel days!

Posted by: CGNC | November 11, 2019 at 02:45 PM

Those were the days! Susan ran a great blog at the Herald as well. I loved Omar at the Sentinel. It killed me that when he jumped on the Dolphins beat no one back-filled that blog.

Their loss...

Go 'canes!!

solarcane

inside the u

When Williams has time to operate, he can deliver the ball to a receiver in stride.


According to Pro Football Focus, six of Williams’ eight touchdown passes the past two games have come when he has thrown the ball after 2.5 seconds in the pocket

For the season, when Williams isn’t feeling any pressure from a pass rush, he is completing 76.6 percent of his passes for 1,426 yards with 14 touchdowns and two interceptions. He is averaging ten yards per attempt in that scenario.


The bottom line: when Miami’s offensive line gives Williams time, plenty of good things happen for the Hurricanes and UM’s passing attack becomes very dangerous.

solarcane

Urban Meyer, Bill Connley, and Manny on how he recruits and develops players and a recap of recent Miami recruiting classes

Urban Meyer believes in the 10-80-10 Principle which is that 10% must be elite, 80% must be compliant, and sadly 10% will be defiant. Your job as a head coach, a boss at Target, or an educator is to get as many of the compliant 80% into the 10% elite category, and to get as many of the defiant 10% to buy in to the 80% compliant as possible. Sadly, 5% of your 10% defiant crew will probably be cut or will transfer before long. I also believe that my job is to teach those 10% that are elite to “hang loose” (read this book) and not get burned out on their own drive and expectations.


Bill Connelly (creator of the SP+ analytics system) coined the adage that a football program is responsible for three phases in order to build success: acquisition, development, and deployment. Acquisition is, of course, recruiting. Development can be done both on the field at practice and in the weight room. Is your strength and conditioning coach elite? Can he or she and their staff push your athletes into the top 10% category? And of course deployment is putting the right guys and the right scheme together for wins on game day.

Acquisition can’t just be about raw talent, it also has to be about finding gritty players who have the resiliency to overcome a lack of early playing time, and who have it in them to become the 80% that are compliant and push into being the 10% who are elite. It takes leg work and a keen eye to read through transcripts and discipline records of high school athletes. But that’s a huge part of acquisition- there are a lot of kids who can dunk a basketball but how many can do so and maintain a 3.5 GPA, take a couple of AP classes, and stay out of the principal’s office?

Development will need to adapt now that David Feeley has been on campus for a year. Running players into the ground, and off-campus is unnecessary now that it’s Manny Diaz’s team. I would love to see less 300’s and 110’s and more actual football speed and agility (change of direction) training this off-season. The articles about gassers, mat drills and conditioning need to shift into articles about football speed, football power, and production related lifts.

Deployment this off-season would require a deep look into the offensive philosophy and into the defensive play caller. Should Baker be left to his own devices again, or should Manny bring in a veteran coach who can help guide the young coordinator? Currently the defensive back coaches are extremely young and don’t have the guidance to offer Baker.

Manny Diaz hasn’t had a ton of time to put his stamp on the ‘Canes program as a head coach, it’s been about 11 months for him on the job as we speak. However, this is his 4th season in the program and three were spent as a defensive coordinator under an offensive-minded head coach. I expect 2020 to be one hell of a season including a Coastal win and a New Year’s Six bowl game appearance.


The 2016 class was thrown together late after the firing of Al Golden and the hiring of Mark Richt. You would need six to be starters, six to be role players, and six could be bench guys of your 19 players in the class in order to be successful. It has been a near complete disaster. This class was ranked 22nd in the country and 3rd in the ACC per 247sports.

Of the 19 enrollees 4 have been starters (not the 33% needed per Coach Bowden) in Shaq Quarterman, Michael Pinckney, Joe Jackson and Travis Homer; three have been role players (not the 33% needed) in Romeo Finley, Pat Bethel, and Michael Irvin II; two retired from injury (Malek Young and Ahmmon Richards who could’ve been stars) and the rest have been non-factors like Sam Bruce (the top player in 2016), and Jack Allison.

There was a little development going on as Irvin II has played better, and Homer and Jackson are NFL players. However, Quarterman and Pinckney have looked like the same players from 2016 in 2019 and losing two players to injury doesn’t say a lot for your S&C program.


The 2017 class consisted of 25 players (so eight players need to be starters, eight role players, and eight can be bench guys with one lost to transfers). This class was ranked 12th in the nation and 2nd in the ACC. It has not lived up to that billing so while acquisition was there, development and deployment was not.

Where do I even begin? Jeff Thomas was the top rated player (per 247sports) in the ‘Canes class and has flashed brilliance while also being suspended, quitting, and being an all-around cancer. As a coach you either coach it or you allow it- so we can put this on Manny Diaz for bringing him back and on Mark Richt for not doing the background check and due diligence before bringing him in. Thomas has only averaged 12.3 yards per catch but did play big against Florida State so good for him.

Navaughn Donaldson might not be the All-American fans dreamed of but he’s been a starter since arriving on campus and that’s a good thing. Other starters have been Trajan Bandy, Deejay Dallas, Jonathan Garvin, Mike Harley, Corey Gaynor, and Amari Carter (at times). That gives you eight starters when Carter and Thomas haven’t been suspended for a variety of things from targeting (Carter) to discipline (Thomas).

N’Kosi Perry and Jon Ford have been role players. This class needed eight role players but only had two. Perry being beaten out by Williams pushes him into the role player category. I would expect him to transfer out this off-season. He’s also been suspended in the past, which is a bad look for acquisition and development.

If only eight players could be bench players and one could transfer, it’s really bad recruiting that 12 people have fallen into this category. Diaz signed off on the defensive players and there have been plenty of flops, especially at linebacker, from the class. D.J. Johnson transferred out almost immediately, and Derrick Smith, Jeff Feagles and Cade Weldon are gone as well. Kai-Leon Herbert, Zalon’tae Hillery, Brian Polendey, Robert Burns, Evidence Njoku, Waymon Steed, Bradley Jennings Jr and Zach Dykastra have been bench players.

The development of players, or the acquisition of players with any ceiling, has been highly questionable in this class. Hillery, Herbert, Steed, Jennings, Dykstra, and Ford hardly have done a thing in orange and green. Then you add in Perry has seen limited growth and Donaldson is a mess at times at guard and you have to question the development, especially at the offensive line positions.


The 2018 class consisted of 23 players and was ranked 8th in the nation and 2nd in the ACC. It’s hard to judge a class this recent but so far it’s been more successful than the past two. To be a success this class needs 7.5 starters, role players and bench players with maybe an allowable transfer. This could be a wildly successful haul with 10 players that could be regular starters and four to five role players of significant value. Add in the potential of Lorenzo Lingard and this could be a huge class.

Brevin Jordan, Nesta Silvera, Jarren Williams, Al Blades Jr, DJ Scaife, Cam’Ron Haris, Gurvan Hall, Dee Wiggins, Gregory Rousseau, and DJ Ivey look like sure-fire starters and major players in this program.

Jordan Miller, John Campbell, Gilbert Frierson, Mark Pope, and Will Mallory have played significant roles or should in the near future.

The big bust could be five-star running back Lorenzo Lingard who has been injured for most of his short Miami career. He still has plenty of time to rehab his knee and get ready for a big season in 2020 splitting time with Harris and Don Cheney. Sadly, Brian Hightower is already in the transfer portal. I had high hopes for the young wide receiver but he has opted to play else where from 2020 and beyond.

The development here is limited due to time, so this could just be one hell of a job of acquiring some ready-made players. However, I will give credit to the development of Rousseau who is new to not only the position but also to carrying real defensive end weight. Williams has grown under Enos this season, too. However, Silvera was injured, Scaife has taken a step back, and I obviously expected more from Lingard.

JOE PATNERO
Charles Bertram/Lexington Herald-Leader/Tribune News Service via Getty Images
The Potentially Great Class
Hal Mumme used to infamously tell kids “your potential is going to get me fired.” What that means is that if your potential never becomes reality, what’s it worth? That’s part of the proper acquisition issues I’ve discussed earlier. It’s also a huge part of development and deployment. It’s a coach’s job to get players ready to play. Saturdays are for the players to go out and have fun.

2019 (6 wins so far)
The 2019 class is way too early to do a proper analysis on but two of the lowest rated players have been playing the most in Zion Nelson and Jakai Clark while punter Louis Hedley has been a steal. K.J. Osborn has been a great transfer portal addition at wide receiver. However, I expect some really big things out of Christian Williams, Jason Blissett and Sam Brooks.

Trevon Hill has been a fine one-year addition, while Tate Martell has flopped as a QB but could find a role player spot at wide receiver or in some kind of Taysom Hill role. Bubba Bolden was coming on strong until a disastrous hip bump forced him onto the injured reserve.

Miami v Florida State
Photo by Don Juan Moore/Getty Images
The Future
The 2020 signing class will be Manny Diaz’s first true recruiting class as the head football coach. The 2019 group was a throw together with Richt leaving and Diaz returning from Temple. The early signing period is making for some bad first classes when there’s a coaching change. The 2020 class is currently ranked 16th in the country and 2nd in the ACC.

So far there are three offensive linemen in the class. Four-star Jalen Rivers and two three-star prospects. Miami also is in desperate need of linebackers and there are four in the class so far. Hopefully they all stick with the ‘Canes on signing day. The highest rated prospect is running back Don Chaney who is a four-star from Belen Jesuit Prep. Other big names are defensive end Chantz Williams, IMG receiver Michael Redding III, QB Tyler Van Dyke, and wide receiver Marcus Flemming from Northwestern High School.

The acquisition seems to be heading in the right direction at most positions besides the offensive line. Development needs to become a priority this off-season. The ‘Canes can’t afford to be pushed around by Central Michigan, Pitt, and UVA any more. Miami should be dominating these less-than programs instead of scraping by or losing to these teams.

Deployment is also an issue as Manny Diaz had to pull in the reigns from Blake Baker, his defensive coordinator; and there was a sudden schematic switch against both FSU and especially Louisville into more of a shotgun and spread feel using RPO’s and quick passing to alleviate the offensive line woes rather than exemplify them as he did against CMU and Virginia and Georgia Tech.

Is Manny Diaz the right guy for the job? We’ll find out in 2020 because that will be his 6th season on campus and his 2nd as the head coach. The acquisition, development and deployment will be fully in his hands by the end of the season in 2020. The Hurricanes have to win the Coastal in 2020, they must beat the Seminoles who are currently without a head football coach or recruiting class, and they must play well in the ACC Championship Game rather than come out flat like in 2017, leading to a tanked bowl game, too.

86Cane

(That article about Coach Roach was ESPECIALLY Pulitzer Prize worthy!) LOL

Posted by: roachcane77 | November 11, 2019 at 03:22 PM

I thought you might be of this opinion!

AeroCane

Solar
Another reason to get some elite OL
Not only time to pass, but more powerful run blocking
I can’t wait to see lingard running next year IF he stays (hopefully I’m wrong and he does in fact stay)

AeroCane

I love what we’ve done recently but I just can’t get it out of my head that this coaching staff took too long to:
• change kicker
• run the offense with more shotgun and rpo
• play Rousseau more

Just those 3 items and we are possibly undefeated
Cam you effing believe it?!

Sarasota 'cane

Posted by: AeroCane | November 11, 2019 at 04:28 PM

Mark Richt did a bit on UM's kicking woes a few weeks ago and he basically said that at any large state school there are 4-5 kids who have kicked or played soccer in HS at a high level that you could bring in for a tryout. He said that is not the case at UM. What you see is what you get.

Go 'canes!!

AeroCane

Sota - I’m not even sure what that means
We are too stupid to bring these guys in?

solarcane

Posted by: AeroCane | November 11, 2019 at 04:40 PM


cause we have never been smart enough to just get one of 20 million south florida soccer players and teach them to kick over the summer

we would rather take hs kicking sites to choose our guy.

smarter than the u

https://youtu.be/lkzCFHEVa8s

AeroCane

Solar
Now that my little brain understands
Lol

roachcane77

I think he means that UMiami, being a fairly small "private" school does not have the large number of students walking around on campus to "pull from" to find replacements...

Does NOTHING to explain why decent kickers weren't recruited in the first place!

solarcane

roach,
I used to watch latino kids in youth leagues playing soccer and make tremendous fg kicks over the crossbars while waiting for soccer practice to start.
surely there is a jimmy Murphy soccer kid that wouldn't mind going to school at Miami rather than another cant miss, but does Bubba

solarcane

how about a woman soccer player kicking a 55 yarder with no sweat?

https://youtu.be/QRUsyZ1x5o4

alpine

don't totally understand this kicker conversation . . .

the canes have always had good kickers and baxa looked to be the next one
. . . he was not our problem last year
. . . nor was he evidently the problem in camp
but something haywired in his brain when he had to do it for real

camden price was "not available" for a while
manny did try our 3rd kicker (forgot his name already) after giving baxa enough string to hang himself (you don't want to pull your kicker right away, in case that makes his confidence even worse; one hopes the kicker comes back)

eventually, when price was available he was sent in

why are you all trying to act like the canes should be keeping more than 3 kickers around, when it's never been a problem before?

sometimes, there's no used complaining about the coach

alpine

and this "why didn't we play rousseau more earlier" is like the canespace answer to "lock her up"

it's getting old
. . . we don't know everything that went on behind the scenes; what the reasoning was, but possibly, the reasoning was good . . . and possibly, that's why it's worked out as he's played more & more

it's so obvious that this new coaching staff had lots on their plate this 1st year and they have definitely not been hitting home runs the entire time
. . . and i wouldn't argue against the fact that maybe they should have been playing that dude more earlier
. . . but since we'll never fully know the reasoning, issues, etc. why don't we just say "thank god it finally happened" and let it rest?!

right now, the coaching staff is doing a decent job and hopefully they'll be able to continue to grow . . . like the coaching staff of the dolphins

86Cane

I guarantee you that already enrolled at UM and walking around on campus from the South Florida area or Mexico or South America there is a kicker waiting to be found.

At the same time I guarantee you that Miami had no idea Baxa would become a head case and fail.

alpine

one thing i like about this "faith & hope" stuff, is that it's basically what you need to do as a fan for the max enjoyment

that is, when things are looking up, don't suddenly want more; don't be looking at all the reasons your team isn't in the final 4

part of the enjoyment of being a fan, is not ALWAYS seeing the glass half-empty . . . this is not our life playing out on the field; it's a GAME!
. . . and these are very young men, with their ups n downs & arounds

enjoy it when you can; when things go south, try to suck a little enjoyment out of wit & sarcasm and such, instead of just stomping on your dog & kids
. . . and have faith & hope, that "this too will pass"

and i hope this doesn't like a "don't ever criticize" type of post
. . . ijs, do we really need to spin our negative wheels just to prove we're "4 horsemen" worthy? . . . why not bring more specificity to the present?

86Cane

2020 kicker recruiting ratings:

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CompositeRecruitRankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&Position=K

alpine

one of the things i noticed that bothered me in the louisville game, is that we ran out the clock at halftime

. . . do i understand that we didn't want to mess up and give them something to hold on to befofre the half? yes! makes sense; i'm not pissed or irritated ... but i am slightly disappointed

. . . i thought we had the momentum, and i thought it was THE perfect time to practice a 1-minute scoring drill and to press the pedal to the metal

and it just felt right to me, to try and score quickly before the half

alpine

very pleased that harley & wiggins are coming on
. . . but it seems a shame that thomas has gotten lost

as i said back when thomas was suspended and osbourne started to return kicks, i liked osbourne better
. . . but thomas used to be excellent at the game-changing plays; a shame that's he's not becoming the next ahmmon richards (pre-injury)

alpine

p.s.
- liked the "'art' in article" comment from old skool; tip o' the cap!

- and i liked OGV's line about: "won't turn the light at the end of the tunnel into an oncoming train for at least two more weeks" . . . classic!

alpine

kickers: the son of my niece (does that make him my great-nephew? or grand-nephew?) . . . anyway, he's doing an absolutely fantastic job at iowa; won a coupl games there already . . . i get articles in my mail quite a bit
. . . but i never will understand what the job of a kicker really entails

solarcane

Big Al bringing it!

solarcane

posted by: 86Cane | November 11, 2019 at 06:08 PM

I think so too.
its interesting with all the interest in soccer in south Florida, no top high school kickers are from Florida

AeroCane

At the same time I guarantee you that Miami had no idea Baxa would become a head case and fail.

Posted by: 86Cane

However, IF we had a real ST coach, then maybe the practices would of been different and we would of figured this out
And Alpine, for your information, baxa wasn’t lights out last year either (better but not good enough where you just ignore it);
Also, Al, as for your comment regarding the end of the 1st half - I agree and think it was totally wussified that we didn’t try to move downfield even if to try a FG

roachcane77

At the same time I guarantee you that Miami had no idea Baxa would become a head case and fail.
Posted by: 86Cane | November 11, 2019 at 06:08 PM

Yeah, I agree with this totally.

Baxa STILL does a good job on kickoffs. (I remember YEARS going by without a U kicker capable of reaching the goalline on kickoffs... )

Like alpine I DO believe the coaches are also making improvements... albeit much SLOWER than most of US would like.

roachcane77

Also, Al, as for your comment regarding the end of the 1st half - I agree and think it was totally wussified that we didn’t try to move downfield even if to try a FG
Posted by: AeroCane | November 11, 2019 at 06:49 PM

I third that position! JJ would have gone for the juggler at that point... WHY NOT???

solarcane

Big Al,
I am sure you recognize it too, there are bloggers that look for negative things to point out every game, or they predict the sky will fall before the next snap.
Then after a win they are OK till the first qrtr next week.

I bitch and complain but I also balance it with compliments to the kids and coaches when things are going right, or at least improving.

I go out of my way to dig up positive stuff about the Canes to post on this blog every day, to try and keep it a positive vibe here.

There is no doubt in my mind Jarren is a better QB because of Enos coaching him.
I am not a fan of a lot of the calls, but maybe Enos knew Williams wasn't ready to throw long until now.

Manny knows more about whats going on in each of
his players heads better than we do for sure.

I think Richt might have been a better judge of character over talent in J4s case, but over all Manny seems to be getting better each week.

Dont run on first down every time against a 200th ranked pass defense, just because thats how they did it in 1987. Would be my only gripe from the last game.

solarcane

Baxa STILL does a good job on kickoffs. (I remember YEARS going by without a U kicker capable of reaching the goalline on kickoffs... )

They were kicking from five yards farther back. They moved them up so kickers could make it to the end zone so there would be touch backs and not so many kick off collision injuries.
Baxta could hit the endzone from 5 yards farther back though.

solarcane

However, IF we had a real ST coach, then maybe the practices would of been different and we would of figured this out

Posted by: AeroCane | November 11, 2019 at 06:49 PM

100 percent true

solarcane

“Fifteen completions for six touchdowns, that’s an unbelievable ratio there,’’ Louisville coach Scott Satterfield said of Williams’ performance.

understatement of the week.

solarcane

Miami has 3 of the top seven players in the ACC leading in tackles for loss.
I have to rethink my put away the turn over chain, it appears I was a bit premature ( kick it in)

58 Straight

1. There is no doubt in my mind Jarren is a better QB because of Enos coaching him.

2. Dont run on first down every time against a 200th ranked pass defense, just because thats how they did it in 1987. Would be my only gripe from the last game.

Posted by: solarcane | November 11, 2019 at 06:55 PM

1. There IT is right there.

2. I agree with your comment, but I really liked 1987. In fact, 1987 was one of the best years of my life. Pass, run or punt, it didn't really matter because that year was solid!

58 Straight

it appears I was a bit premature ( kick it in)

Posted by: solarcane | November 11, 2019 at 07:18 PM

That is a chip shot: TWSS!

solarcane

. I agree with your comment, but I really liked 1987. In fact, 1987 was one of the best years of my life. Pass, run or punt, it didn't really matter because that year was solid!

Posted by: 58 Straight | November 11, 2019 at 07:25 PM

I loved Steve Walsh, I loved 1987, I just use it as an example because Manny thinks because that team was so dominant you just do what they did. But you have to have those caliber players and coaches to put together another 1987

solarcane

soup,
years ago we talked about the 1987 team.
i think they had like 8 good running backs and 7 offensive linemen, that was strange.

VA Cane

Please forgive, I forgot to congratulate Roach;
Re-read the piece again and it is impressive. Roach congrates on being a great coach, but more importantly congrates on making the difference in young peoples lives!!!
Excellent!!!

I know I get miffed at some things, but I have seen some good things. Besides some poor play, bad breaks, misses, and screw ups, we have been very close in most games. FL UNC VT GT.....all winnable we erred but were not out of it had a good shot! Luck the other way we could be 10-0....but luck dont win....execution of fundamentals is the key. I see things getting better, and I think everybody...guys and coaches got more heart in it...they see some light and walk towards it. Yes we still got a long way to go...but go forward and be positive. I love all the great teams......I really loved KD12 and co....they dominated the game!!!!

Herbieibis

Walsh is my all time favorite. The dude had ice water in his veins.
Now on the 10, 80 & 10 percent, when we start hitting on that 10% more we will definitely be in business. 3 star players are a dime a dozen. Coaching has to be really good to get these guys to respond and be consistent week to week. It's no different in being a C student. Consistency is the biggest issue with these guys. One week they may ay great, the next week they se lost.
Thomas has played like a 3 star player this year. I'll be glad when the dude is gone, no matter if he has a few more big games.
Every class is going to have flops. The majority of our OH Linemen have been flops. This has been our Achilles heel. They are getting better but our comp ain't that great either.
Baxa has the leg, so I don't know why Manny doesn't give him some shots at the longer FG, unless the dude mentally has checked out.
Can't have anymore bad games. Need to finish on a high note. No more playing down to the comp, that we have been so good at.
Clemson is far ahead of us right now. We are nothing more than an itch on their back side right now. Got to finish strong on the recruiting trail. Getting Flowe is what we need to get us over the hump. One of those 10% boyzs.

AeroCane

Herb
Great post

orange 'n green in the vein

Posted by: 86Cane | November 11, 2019 at 06:08 PM

He wasn't even that very highly regarded out of high school. He was a second tier prospect at his position and has played like . . . a second tier performer on his best days.

But even Andy Crosland eventually turned in a season as a senior where you could consider him reliable so it's too early to completely write #21 off totally. Tempting, but too early.

58 Straight

He wasn't even that very highly regarded out of high school. He was a second tier prospect at his position and has played like . . . a second tier performer on his best days.

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | November 11, 2019 at 09:42 PM

OGV...all I know is that we NEVER turned in a second tier performance at any tailgate we ever attended. First rate all the way my friend!

Sarasota 'cane

I wasn't excusing the lack of a consistent kicker, I was just pointing out that when you conclude that you don't have a consistent kicker your options are more limited than they would be at a larger school.

And for the record Carlos Huerta is still one of my favorite Hurricane players of all time. Dude was money!

Go 'canes!!

Sarasota 'cane

And I'll correct my post and say that it was Mark Richt making the point on the ACC Network, not me. But I see his point...

solarcane

Interesting stuff here tonight guys good blogging

alpine

what solar said!! (his last post)

alpine

by the way, any others of you hear:

(louisville scored to even it up 7 - 7
. . . first play for the canes and jarren immediately hits wiggins for a TD!)

. . . announcer is so excited, at one point he uses the term, "backatcha" to describe this moment!

PERFECT . . . i loved that!

alpine

"What Miami’s passing game demonstrated on Saturday was that it’s not dependent on just one receiver. Jeff Thomas finished with just one catch, Osborn with three catches for five yards, superstar tight end Brevin Jordan was out with an injury, Williams was still able to move the ball downfield and score points."

part of an excellent article:
https://www.stateoftheu.com/2019/11/11/20959782/miami-hurricanes-football-jarren-williams-dan-enos-deejay-dallas-dee-wiggins-mike-harley-offensive

alpine

2. Dont run on first down every time against a 200th ranked pass defense, just because thats how they did it in 1987. Would be my only gripe from the last game.

Posted by: solarcane | November 11, 2019 at 06:55 PM

this made me LOL!

i basically agree with this, but i think it also had to do with trying to se exactly how much our front hogs have grown
. . . and to be sure, they did do a good job a couple times on those first down runs; both dj's 6-yd. td gash and harris's looooooong run are probably best examples . . . but our hogs are def growing quicker as pass protectors than as run-graders

BigWindyCane1


"What Miami’s passing game demonstrated on Saturday was that it’s not dependent on just one receiver. Jeff Thomas finished with just one catch, Osborn with three catches for five yards, superstar tight end Brevin Jordan was out with an injury, Williams was still able to move the ball downfield and score points."

part of an excellent article:
https://www.stateoftheu.com/2019/11/11/20959782/miami-hurricanes-football-jarren-williams-dan-enos-deejay-dallas-dee-wiggins-mike-harley-offensive

Posted by: alpine | November 12, 2019 at 05:53 AM

🤔 the best offensive performance without Brevin, JT4 and Osborn (and evening Pope) making significant contributions?

Looks like the Canes coaches have developed Jarren, Wiggins and HARLEY as dangerous weapons, and the others need to step up their game.

Of course Louisville has the worst ACC defense, but at least the Canes did what they should do at home on senior day against a poor defense

orange 'n green in the vein

Posted by: 58 Straight | November 11, 2019 at 10:22 PM

Because there's a standard to be upheld, which it always is, unlike the moronic BOTS, the over promoted peter principle ticket distributor pretending to be an AD, the over promoted peter principle defensive coordinator, and it doesn't even require a too late once it's all gone sideways 'players only' meeting to do so.

At least the Pimp finally got an object lesson in the less the recruiting blunder from down under gets the ball on offense the better this edition of the basketball team plays and what do you know? They won despite not needing to inflate his stat line. Always go big at the other guard or else get ready to suffer!

Go Canes!!

Posted by: AeroCane | November 11, 2019 at 06:49 PM

Imo you need to take a step back and get some perspective.

Jarren had just taken a big hit to his throwing shoulder and was wincing with every throw.

If they got aggressive and gotten picked would you be saying Manny didn't learn at VT and had his QB throwing again when he was hurt?

The game was completely in hand, they did the right thing.

Sarasota 'cane

Any suggestions on buying tickets for the FIU game? Crazy seating arrangements. I was wondering if Platinum is a club level type seat.

Go 'canes!!

Go Canes!!

For those questioning Rousseau not playing, remember he was coming off a big injruy and was nursing another in the spring.

In hindsight just about every decision they've made has been the right one, after seeing these guys day in and out at practice:

-Picking Jarren to be QB1 over Martell and Kosi
-Playing Wiggins, who had drop issues, ahead of Hightower
-Starting Zion, who's raw but getting exponentially better ever week
-Redshirting Lingard who's still not 100%
-Working with McCloud's RS so we return needed experience at LB

So imp nitpicking snap counts for #15, without having all the info, seems pretty iffy to me at this point.


Sarasota 'cane

KYcane I will get your tumbler in the mail today. I am sorry to say that Tervis is not allowing custom lettering on their website anymore so I'm not sure if they will be Canespace branded going forward. I'm gonna call the order in to see if they will still do the custom printing.

VFB Cane send me your overseas address and I'll see what it cost to get you your tumbler.

Go 'canes!!

Go Canes!!

Dont run on first down every time against a 200th ranked pass defense, just because thats how they did it in 1987. Would be my only gripe from the last game.

Posted by: solarcane | November 11, 2019 at 06:55 PM

Not going to check but I thought we threw it about as much as ran it on first down, but you may be right. Overall though, didn't see a big disparity between the two.

Sarasota 'cane

Better yet there's a Tervis store a few blocks from my office in St. Pete. I'll walk over there at lunch time to see if I can get it setup there.

Go 'canes!!

alpine

Because there's a standard to be upheld, which it always is, unlike the moronic BOTS, the over promoted peter principle ticket distributor pretending to be an AD, the over promoted peter principle defensive coordinator, and it doesn't even require a too late once it's all gone sideways 'players only' meeting to do so.
Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | November 12, 2019 at 09:13 AM

- OGV: it sounds to me, like you were/are(?) a really good tailgater

. . . but i gotta say it dude: despite showing 4* blog potential, your posts NEVER make it past the 1* - 2* level . . . and that's a shame . . .

- it's much appreciated, that you finally gave up that adolescent stalking of Go Canes thing you were doing

- and i haven't seen "fake lames" for a week or two, so maybe that has finally been retired (side note: most monikers, like this one, are worth no more than 2-3 repetitions . . . if you hit on a "classic" moniker, you'll know it, cause canespace will start using it)

- so, good start! but you might want to add some elements to the over-done, cynical, gangsta-style prose that you use . . . the constant weirdish negativity makes it look like one of the following is going on:
1. not enough sex
2. or too much sex . . . of the solo kind
3. or too many hot dogs with ketchup & relish instead of mustard & sauerkraut

- to be sure, you don't want to totally lose "you"; but maybe give us respect, that we don't need 16 negative posts every single month about our AD, to understand that you are not going to shake his hand and clap him on the back next time you see him
. . . maybe it'd be different if your posts on him would sometimes have new info, a different angle, or at least be funny . . . but they're not

- i'm just saying, why not up your game; dig deeper; bring more stuff that's actually interesting and don't be a gerbil on a rotating wheel just spinning around the same stuff all the time

nemo2002

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