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December 04, 2019

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Old Skool

Nice read. Thanks Alpine

raizecane

I would have been here sooner but the previous blog didn't say "new blog up".......

Somebody dropped the ball......oh wait, that's our receivers. Never mind.

raizecane

But at this stage of the game, if you are a total 'Canes pessimist, well, enjoy it, because you've earned it!

********************************************

That would be me (raising hand).

solarcane

Great article Big Al.
Lot of good views and opinions

Terrance M Sullivan

Manny F'N Sucks Arse The End. But Blake James will not fire him because he ran off Mark Richt to bring Manny in and he feels mentally he is stuck with him. We should fire Blake Arse. And give Manny the Ultimatum Blake Gave Mark. Hopefully that loser Manny walks away and we can get a Real Head Coach and not some used car salesman from the Palmetto!

86Cane

Alpine...thanks for the article. Much appreciated.

86Cane

When you lose to GT, FIU and Duke and finish 6-6 with no signs of improvement towards the end of the season, and if anything show regression, then it is hard to maintain any reasonable hope or logical thoughts that Manny is The Man or that Miami will improve in 2020 based on the evidence that is available.

If the plan is to recruit there way out of this situation then it will be 2-4 years before we will see any real change or improvement. And the only way to recruit your way out of this mess is to show growth and progress and that is done by winning games you are SUPPOSED to win. Miami did not do that in the 2019 season.

If you want to see things through green and orange colored glasses and through the narrow lens of a die hard Miami Hurricane fan you can choose to do that. But there is no argument that when you lose Go Canes ("Losing to FIU is a fireable offense all by itself") and Big Windy Cane (pick one of many recent quotes) you have really lost the fan base.

And if you were to ask ANY impartial college football observer's view they would quickly and easily tell you that Miami is a hot mess.

I will say this to end my opinion comment:

As I have said MANY times here before it is NOT our job to fix or even recommend what to fix with the University of Miami football program. It is our job to watch the games, either in person or on TV, and to root for the Canes to win.

It is a very simple equation that needs no detailed or futher explanation than this (and this is true for any fan of any team):

1. If they play well and win, like against FSU, we cheer for them and are happy.

2. If they play poorly and lose, like against FIU, we boo and are unhappy.

There is no sense in trying to spin winning into unhappiness nor is their any need to spin losing into happiness simply to protect your "die hard fan" status. Facts are facts and truth is truth and the evidence is plain for all to see on the field on any given Saturday.

Sugar coating suckage does not hide the suckage. It just makes it slightly more palatable but in the end it is still suckage.

roachcane77

Nice blog article Alpine!

When you lose to GT, FIU and Duke and finish 6-6 with no signs of improvement towards the end of the season, and if anything show regression, then it is hard to maintain any reasonable hope or logical thoughts that Manny is The Man or that Miami will improve in 2020 based on the evidence that is available.
Posted by: 86Cane | December 04, 2019 at 10:36 AM

AND... well stated SOUP!

raizecane

In case you are in the market for a new phone, Pablo Escobar's brother just released a fold-able phone for $349.

With it you get a free case and an .oz of cocaine.

Sounds like a great deal to me.

HerbieIbis

Hope is eternal.
Manny has a couple choices:
1. No matter what happens in the bowl game, Enos has got to go or just make him the QB coach go find a guy that runs the SPaaaRED. I don't care as long as I don't have to watch another pro set unless there is two yds or less to gain.
2. Fire Baker and Manny be his Own DEE coordinator.
3. Patke is dumped as special teams coach.
4. I've never understood why we need to DB coaches. Like Rumph as a coach but the dude couldn't recruit a roach to a lights out party.
5.Banda can recruit but as a safety coach meh!
6. Barry incomplete. He inherited that band of saawfties up front. That is the biggest mess and the main reason our QB'S got beat up and are gun shy.
Recruiting will help. This class, although still missing a few IT guys, can't be relied upon next year to cause us to have a big flip in wins and Losses.
If Manny rolls the dice and keeps this current staff together, then he will be out before the season ends next year.

alpine

- good job with my article, 86! (the unicorn-photo find alone should, in a fair world, get you a free ticket to disneyland with the missus + a free pass to cut into the front of every line)

- and thank you skool, solar, roach, soup

SOUP

1. Recruiting will help. This class, although still missing a few IT guys, can't be relied upon next year to cause us to have a big flip in wins and Losses.

2. If Manny rolls the dice and keeps this current staff together, then he will be out before the season ends next year.

Posted by: HerbieIbis | December 04, 2019 at 11:34 AM

1. One recruiting class can make an impact but it will not instantly change the culture or produce wins. And no matter how big or how good the class is there will be the standard 60/40 rule of attrition and who makes it to start, makes big plays big and stays four years and graduates.

2. Agree 100 %.

I have to say that I find it very interesting that you seem to have changed recently and now come across as the "voice of reason" and remain so hopeful and postitve when you were among the most negative on the program and other coaches for years. Curious, what has changed for you?

orange 'n green in the vein

https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions

January (not 1st) bowl game!

(In Birmingham . . .)

Against noted AAC power Tulane!

Trending up?

Terrance, you going to this if it happens?

SOUP

1. Good job with my article, 86!

2. The unicorn-photo find alone should, in a fair world, get you a free ticket to disneyland with the missus + a free pass to cut into the front of every line.

Posted by: alpine | December 04, 2019 at 11:40 AM

1. My pleasure! Some very minor editing and formatting work but it was good from the start. Plenty of good content to work with. The photos were easy finds. Who got next? UMike? Old Skool?

2. Funny thing you even mentioned "Unicorns" in your article. In real estate we have a saying about buyers that are unicorns. In real estate we define unicorns as:

Perfect credit, plenty of reserve funds for down payment and closing costs, smart, decisive and easy to work with, and very organized and responsive with financial documents to qualify for the mortgage.

They are considered very rare but they do actually exist!

Terrance M Sullivan

https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/predictions

January (not 1st) bowl game!

(In Birmingham . . .)

Against noted AAC power Tulane!

Trending up?

Terrance, you going to this if it happens?

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | December 04, 2019 at 12:02 PM
OGV Hard Pass My Brotha I wouldn't waste another dime on this years team even if they played in The Camelia Bowl Here In Downtown Montgomery my neighborhood that is a 10 blocks from me. This years team has been the most unlikable Miami Hurricanes Team in my lifetime and I started following the team in the 1982 season. I will watch whatever BS Bowl Game we go to on TV at a Sports Bar probably at Twin Peaks here in Montgomery. I already cancelled my trip to Lansing Next Year for the Michigan State Game. I will go to 3 Games Next Year The GT Game in Atlanta and 2 Home Games Probably the Game against UAB(They will probably beat our arses) and a ACC Game Most Likely Homecoming First Saturday in November.

Terrance M Sullivan

As Far as recruiting our way outta of the problem would you trust a Woman who has shown you she can't Cook(Coaching Current Roster) to keep cooking future Meals(Coaching New Recruits) or would you trust a Man who has shown you he can't Grill(Coaching Current Roster) to keep Grilling(Coaching New Recruits) this is for CGNC, MLAlumni1970 and the Ladies of Canespace.

nemo2002

There are only three things that we need for UM's football team to perform much better next year:
1. A much better offense.
2. A much better defense.
3. A much better head coach.

Terrance M Sullivan

There are only three things that we need for UM's football team to perform much better next year:
1. A much better offense.
2. A much better defense.
3. A much better head coach.

Posted by: nemo2002 | December 04, 2019 at 12:37 PM
4. A Much Better Special Teams
5. A Much Better Athletic Director

SOUP

So you are saying just some minor tweaks?

Sounds simple enough.

HerbieIbis

Oh, soup I'm beyond pissed. I hate having to keep my mouth shut and eating a shyt sandwich because we can't beat a bunch of nobodies. Walking around with my head down not being able to defend why I pull for these band of misfits.
The worm has to turn. As a former coach myself, I've always said during the tough times "It ain't always going to be this way" but being a Die-hard fan, it sure seems it!
We'll dig out from the abyss, just can't say win.
Talents their, maybe not the abundance at certain positions but it's there. Stevie Wonder could have taken this team and won 9 to 10 games.
I'm begging Manny to go SPaared but he ain't hearing me. Maybe I'm to far away being up here in North Carolina. Maybe u should send him a link to Canespace and he can see my plea!

Joe

Great Article Al!
The Defense was 25th ranked this year. The offense couldn't convert on 3rd down which meant 3 and out too many times and put the defense on the field time and time again. If we played a spread offense and avg 30 points a game. We would be talking ACC Championship and possibly 10 win season or more each year. The biggest issue is we need to run a spread, because it minimize our failures at the o-linemen.

Joe

Even with the kicking issues we could have a 10 win season. Look at Alabama since 2007 have missed 101 kicks but they still win 10 games a season in that span. So either Enos adapts his offense to a spread offense next season or we hire somebody that will run it the way Manny promised all of us fans. Which would mean stop recruiting Van Dyke as he is a pro style pocket qb. Tate Martell would start the implementation and we would need to maybe pull in a juco qb and a recruit. May Manny make it happen!

alpine

Great Article Al!
The Defense was 25th ranked this year. The offense couldn't convert on 3rd down which meant 3 and out too many times and put the defense on the field time and time again. If we played a spread offense and avg 30 points a game. We would be talking ACC Championship and possibly 10 win season or more each year. The biggest issue is we need to run a spread, because it minimize our failures at the o-linemen.
Posted by: Joe | December 04, 2019 at 01:32 PM

- thank you, sir!

- you're very right . . . keeping the D off the field more would def be helpful

Sarasota 'cane

Not comparing any of our recent coaches to the Legend that is Butch, but I'm "a little longer in the tooth" and I clearly remember (pre-social media) that many of us wanted to fly a banner in Butch's year 3-4, and I think it played a role in Butch's decision to leave after his miraculous year 5 season.

Does anyone see any similarities in Butch's early lack of success? Butch was also a pretty bad clock manager as I remember it. Not Andy Reid bad, but still head scratching bad. Are we too quick to pull the trigger on Manny after one year and in light of the fact that Manny did prove himself as a competent DC?

Is Jalen Williams a doppelganger of Kenny Kelly? Can a new field general and a Carlos Huerta type kicker fix what ails us?

Go 'canes!!

Sarasota 'cane

And by "pull the trigger" I'm referring to our ire, not Manny's tenure. I think Manny will be at UM through the 2021 season whether we like it or not.

Sarasota 'cane

And another defense of Manny and his defensive successes and failures is the spread and speed of today's game. If you cannot balance the time of possession and get you defense off the field with sustained drives by the offense then I don't care how good your defense is.

They will get gassed and the explosiveness of a fast offense can wear you out faster than the old pro style offenses that we used to face.

Joe

Exactly Sarasota 'cane!!

Terrance M Sullivan

Butch 1st Season 1995 Miami went 8-3. Manny 1st Season 6-6 so far. BTW Butch is overrated as hell. Dude got 1 10 Win Season in 13 Years as D-1 Head Coach Miami, North Carolina, and Florida International.

Mia Chi ‘Canes ‘98

First off Butch only had one bad year in 1997.

He still had:

1 - 5 win season
1 - 8 win season
3 - 9 win seasons
1 - 11 win season

And 4-0 in bowls

And I recall there really no bad losses. (Some heartbreaks to penn st and ECU). They could not beat FSU and Va Tech

I would gladly take those seasons now.

Herbieibis

Butch had sanctions to deal with to begin his tenure.
Manny has to deal with inept coaches.
Ruelous George heads to the portal. Don't need a FB in the spread.

CGNC

Nice article Apine. Love the unicorns

Posted by: Terrance M Sullivan | December 04, 2019 at 09:18 AM

Agreed! There is no point in getting rid of Manny without first getting rid of Blake James - who would probably go out and hire Willie Taggert

CGNC

TSully - I don't know if Butch was over-rated or not, but I sure would have liked to have him back here before Golden/Richt to see what would have happened. As an evaluator of talent, he was very good. We could still have him here in that capacity since he only makes $1M at FIU.

Over-rated or not, I am pretty confident the we would not be seeing the ish we are seeing right now.

Terrance M Sullivan

Richt>Butch. Butch>Shannon,Golden, Diaz. BTW Give Me Lane over Butch anyday well since Lane owns Butch. Butch owns Manny lol. Oh We Need to Fire That Idiot Blake James Immediately but our President and BOT don't care at all. We should be clowning their arses like we did Donna IJS.

MLAlumni1970

If I remember correctly, didn't my favorite coach, Butch Davis, leave US high and dry? He quit the U and went to Cleveland, to the PROs. Am I right about this??? Just think how great we could have been, if he had stayed. That is what pisses me off. That was the beginning of the end, and Butch never addressed personally, to all who love the U, an explanation. I always hoped that there is more to life than MONEY.

Sarasota 'cane

Butch would've waltzed into a natty if he came back for year 6 and he was poised to make a natty run at UNC before they suspended his players. His UNC defense was sick!

Sarasota 'cane

IMO Bitch Davis is as good as anyone in the modern era at evaluating defensive recruits.

He simply cannot attract that caliber of talent to a school that has no shot of competing for a championship.

MLAlumni1970j

Who is Lane?? Why did he own Butch?? Just curious. Sounds like Blake James needs to go too.
WHY is it that the great, former, football players, never stand up and flex their muscles? All the millions they made, came from the U. Andre Johnson, Ken Dorsey, Ed Reed,Jeremy Shockey, Reggie Wayne, Frank Gore etc.etc. They OWE it to us and the U, to help right the ship.

Sarasota 'cane

Posted by: MLAlumni1970 | December 04, 2019 at 06:37 PM

Easy for us to say that about someone else's money. UM was at the bottom of the barrel back then for coaches pay. And the facilities were the worst.

I'm still salty that he left when he did, but we got what we wanted in the end.

One for the Thumb!

Go 'canes!

Terrance M Sullivan

Lane Kiffin FAU Head Coach they own Butch Davis FIU Head Coach.

Terrance M Sullivan

So FAU is a magnet for drawing talent They in the same division in the same conference yet Lane Kiffin is running circles around Butch Davis. Just The Facts.

Terrance M Sullivan

If Butch is so great why come no one is knocking his door down to coach their teams it's a number of Power 5 Jobs available it's Funny Lane Kiffin is in the running for those jobs. I can think I am a Stud Muffin but If I Can't Get Any Dates with The Ladies I am really just A Dud Just Keeping it 💯!

Terrance M Sullivan

Mack Brown and Les Miles who are either older than Butch or similar age got Power 5 Jobs but not Butch. Butch is a Quality Coach not some used car salesman on the Palmetto like Manny, Al, or Randy those are D Level Coaches But is A C plus Coach at his height he was a B plus Coach.

HerbieIbis

Beat Miami lose to Marshall.

BigWindyCane1

Great article Alpine! “Manny Overboard,”. LOL! Selling those unicorns for sure 💯!

58 Straight

Lane Kiffin FAU Head Coach they own Butch Davis FIU Head Coach.

Posted by: Terrance M Sullivan | December 04, 2019 at 07:12 PM

Wait, wait, wait...lemme get dis skrait, Kiffin owns da Butch and da Butch owns da Diaz? What does that mean about Kiffin owning Diaz?

Talk about being OWNED, Holy Moses!

58 Straight

Hating on Butch has its merits but hating on Butch AFTER he made Diaz look like a kindergarten teacher is a tad bitter and weak IMHO.

If you are going to say that Butch is weak because Kiffin owns him then what does that say about Diaz?

Terrance M Sullivan

58 Straight Yeah Palmetto 57th Manny would be clowned in a Major Way by West Palm Beach Lane Train IJS! It's sad when Miami has the worst Coach of the 3 Division 1 Schools In South Florida. Sad Times in Coral Gables.

BigWindyCane1

Let’s face it, as of now, CMD is not ready to be a legitimate HC in the ACC. Will he grow into that? Who knows? But he only has one more season to show some improvement

BigWindyCane1

The lack of success on third down this season is probably one of tthe biggest problems on offense this season. Finishing 130th out of 130 teams on third down speaks for itself. No debates or discussion is necessary.

The best way to attack this is to go to the film, analyze each third down, and see what was successful and what wasn’t. Then you implement third down offense to do what you are good at.

The Canes cannot be successful with those two freshmen on the OL. They are the worse OL starters in the history of Canes football. I am not sure if they will get better, but maybe that is why Campbell was so frustrated. They are really horrible and should have redshirted on a good team. Butch BARRY gets a D/F grade for this season.

The Canes need to do a better job recruiting transfers and freshmen OLs, especially OTs, to come in, and the Canes need to develop the OLs that are here.

Terrance M Sullivan

That latest article in the Miami Herald concerning The Board of Trustees feelings toward Palmetto 57th Manny is interesting.

58 Straight

1. The best way to attack this is to go to the film, analyze each third down, and see what was successful and what wasn’t. Then you implement third down offense to do what you are good at.

2. The Canes need to do a better job recruiting transfers and freshmen OLs, especially OTs, to come in, and the Canes need to develop the OLs that are here.

Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | December 04, 2019 at 08:46 PM

1. I would love to see someone do this as a project and determine if it was (A) A bad play call; (B) a missed block; (C) a dropped pass; (D) a bad pass route ran by the WR; (E) A bad throw by the QB.

As a research exercise it would be interesting, but in the end it is a failure of the offensive coaches and there is no way around that.

2. Why can every other team recruit OL but we can't? If UNC, VT, GT, FIU and Duke can recruit good enough OL to beat Miami and our DL that is SO great then why can't we?

Oh, it's play calling you say? YES!!! It is NOT the OL it is the offensive scheme and the play calling.

I just proved my own point. FIRE all of the offensive coaches at UM and hire the ones from GT, Duke FIU and VT.

IT CAN'T BE THAT FRIGGIN HARD, IT JUST CAN'T BE!!!

HerbieIbis

Well let Oh Line analyzing begin:
1. For the most part talentless. Miami has always tried to put the best 5 linemen on the field, now it doesn't matter to them what position they are better suited for and that is a problem. We may have one legitimate tackle on the whole team.
2. Which brings The Herb to this, why don't we recruit tackles, dam if I know!
3. Barry came from the pros but when U don't have a lot to work with, man his job must be tough, not to mention Clarke and Nelson should of redshirted. Neither we're highly recruited by power 5 schools to begin with.
4. Searles didn't do anything to improve the rest of these guys.
5. The scheme just plain stinks and those other teams at least to their players strengths by running an offense that helps those players out. We keep running that dam pro set, when just about every high school I America runs some form of spread.
6. They want Rivers to play tackle but he may be better suited to play guard, the kid from Tenn. Is a project but he to he is being brought in to play tackle.
Smith will probably be dropped. That is all we have coming in so far. That is PITIFUL! You know we have serious problems on the line and that is all we have.
7. Hire one effing coach that can recruit, just one, at least!
8. Lastly I will say this, it's getting to look like this is the place where offensive lineman come to die and the cause of death the dam pro style.

BigWindyCane1

Herb and Soup are absolutely right 💯!

But I am not sure that CMD and Coach BARRY can get it done next year. I guess we will see

58 Straight

2. Why can every other team recruit OL but we can't? If UNC, VT, GT, FIU and Duke can recruit good enough OL to beat Miami and our DL that is SO great then why can't we?

I just proved my own point. FIRE all of the offensive coaches at UM and hire the ones from GT, Duke FIU and VT.

IT CAN'T BE THAT FRIGGIN HARD, IT JUST CAN'T BE!!!

Posted by: 58 Straight | December 04, 2019 at 09:41 PM

ANSWER THIS QUESTION DIRECTLY.

I will wait.

alpine

thank you cgnc & windy!

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2. Why can every other team recruit OL but we can't? If UNC, VT, GT, FIU and Duke can recruit good enough OL to beat Miami and our DL that is SO great then why can't we?

Posted by: 58 Straight | December 04, 2019 at 09:41 PM

i've been asking myself that for a looooong time, which is why i asked this same question here early in the season; was hoping canespace erudition could open my eyes a bit

. . . but it does seem from the twittering of the old-timey canes OL players, who tried to help/teach, that there's not enough interest in that room either to learn from the older players or to dig deep with pride to make sure one gets better

still, WHY these are always OUR recruits is just a phenomenon that goes thru several coaching staffs and well-thought-of OL coaches!

at this point, i would suggest an exorcism of whatever demon has lodged itself there!

solarcane

VAs kinda coach.

Kirby Smart gets it better than any of the last 5 Miami coaches put together.

Give me a team full of 3 star players that absolutely hate to lose more than they love to win, against a team full of 4 star players only interested in buying their mama a new house and we win every time.

After a loss I don't want to see hurt and embarrassment, I want to we helmets flying around and infuriated faces.

alpine

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article237961769.html

this is the article sully was talking about
. . . worth a read

alpine

solarcane - isn't it time for you to take your beauty rest?

isn't it well-known that nothing good ever happens after 2:36 a.m.?

well, i'll trust your experience & wisdom on this one . . .

solarcane

Bighugs So,

I'm in the sign shop banging out 200 decals and couple tee shirts.
Time is money or something like that

solarcane

Ha ha that was supposed to be Big Al

alpine

"nothing good ever happens after 2:36 a.m.?"

ooops; some of those brain cells got clogged up with all the chocolate i ate yesterday
. . . meant to say "2 a.m.", but started thinking about something else at the same time
. . . and i'm not so brilliant at that multi-tasking thing-y
. . . i can do "focus"
. . . but i'm a graveyard for "foci"

solarcane

Miami Football redshirt freshman defensive end Greg Rousseau capped off a brilliant season by being named the ACC Rookie Defensive Player of the Year.

One bright spot in a disgusting year

alpine

Time is money or something like that

Posted by: solarcane | December 05, 2019 at 02:43 AM

aaaaahhhh . . . tell you the truth, i'm not sure that's a good enough reason to burn the candles at both ends
. . . and definitely not as good a reason as "time with wifey"

. . . but knowing you, you're probably also enjoying this middle-of-the-night dedication-to-work thing-y you've got going; more power to you, young man!

solarcane

I actually love the work Al, I get up about 5 am lots of mornings to either knock some work out or head out to the lake to kayak.

I designed the Canespace logo in the middle of the blog logo and those killer Canespace shirts for Tom years and years ago.

alpine

Miami Football redshirt freshman defensive end Greg Rousseau capped off a brilliant season by being named the ACC Rookie Defensive Player of the Year.

Posted by: solarcane | December 05, 2019 at 02:47 AM

2 additional things to like about him:

1- his first name is the name of my son

2- his last name is basically "rush you", but written & pronounced in the more culturally smooth and artistic "rousseau", just like his smooth moves to the QB

alpine

Posted by: solarcane | December 05, 2019 at 02:56 AM

i'll be damned; that is VERY cool, solar!

another tip o'the cap to you, sir!

solarcane

It was and is my pleasure,
Tom can be a knucklehead but he can be the nicest guy you will ever meet, there isn't much I wouldn't do for him or the Space,

Ok I gotta cut some stickers out and pack em up I will catch you later today Big Al

Schnelly

We suck, Manny ain’t the answer. We’ll suck again next year.

BUT we beat FSU and they’re in a worse situation than we are.

Find something else to do on Saturday’s and you’ll be pleasantly surprised how much better life is.

VfB_Cane

I designed the Canespace logo in the middle of the blog logo
Posted by: solarcane | December 05, 2019 at 02:56 AM

This made me look at the loge (which I've alwas liked, great job Solar back in the day).
"It's a Canes thing, you wouldn't understand."

While it may still be a Canes thing, but quite honestly, I no longer understand.

It once was a matter of pride, dedication and belief to stand by the Canes (up against the world) through thick and thin.

Now, I wonder whether it's more than mere nostalgia. Watching the Canes feels like passing a traffic accident: You know you shouldn't look, but you can't help, and then you feel kind of embarrassed for doing so.

raizecane

Until we win a major Bowl, the Canespace logo should be the same as KYCanes avatar.

solarcane

Find something else to do on Saturday’s and you’ll be pleasantly surprised how much better life is.

Posted by: Schnelly | December 05, 2019 at 04:45 AM

Some real good advice

solarcane

VfB

Thanks, and and I agree with the way you feel.

It used to be everybody hates the U
Now nobody even thinks about the U.

And that embarrassment thing yea...

Put away the bling,don't dress up like you are a 70s Raider fan just to be on TV every game, you are embarrassing everyone around you,

never use the word Swagger, and and bring yourself to realize it is very seldom about the U.

alpine

Posted by: solarcane | December 05, 2019 at 08:42 AM

solarcane = spoilersportcane

alpine

er: "spoilsport"

HerbiIbis

Yahoo sports gives Manny Diaz a D- for his coaching efforts.

orange 'n green in the vein

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-first-year-coach-grades-ohio-states-ryan-day-aces-test-miamis-manny-diaz-fails/

F.

That is all, slurpers.

Terrance M Sullivan

OGV lol it's well deserved.

86Cane

Watching the Canes feels like passing a traffic accident: You know you shouldn't look, but you can't help, and then you feel kind of embarrassed for doing so.

Posted by: VfB_Cane | December 05, 2019 at 07:06 AM

There IT is right there.

KYcane


Until we win a major Bowl, the Canespace logo should be the same as KYCanes avatar.

Posted by: raizecane | December 05, 2019 at 07:29 AM

I’ll check with my agent

HerbiIbis

The Herb is going out on a limb and saying Manny won't make any changes to the offence. Using the excuse that that side of the ball was young with a first year QB and 3 new starters on the line, including 2 true freshman starters. I can here it now, defending and making excuses. He will fail if he doesn't.

solarcane

Posted by: orange 'n green in the vein | December 05, 2019 at 10:27 AM

Manny sucks big time for sure, but those guys that wrote that are complete ass.
Ryan Day gets an A+ WTF??

The guy starts out with probably the best team in the country with the best quarterback in the country. Yea he really had to coach his ass off alright.


Terrance M Sullivan

So Solar what Grade would you give Manny and what grade would you give Ryan????

solarcane

I would give Manny an F sully

I think Day had a bit of Coker team to start off with. Weren't they like 10 and 1 in 2018 when Meyer stepped down and end up like 13 and 1, ranked 3ed or 4th in the country?

Manny started out with a 35 or 40 place team and managed to do worse.

Day started out with the 3ed best team in the country and stayed up there, but had some of the best players in the country helping him.

I would give Day about a B or a tad better, he didn't fold under the pressure of being The Ohio State HC and that is something also.

Remember what a big deal everybody made about Coker's first year when it was Butch's kids that put in all the work?
thats jmo

solarcane

#15 ACC Defensive Rookie of The Year beating down a few qbs

https://twitter.com/i/status/1202228234256928769

HerbieIbis

I would give Day an. He had the talent and they sure as hell didn't play down to their comp. They just beat people up and with a first year starting QB. Young, at DE us great and we all thought Garvin would be but he pretty much took a powder this year. It wasn't until the Duke game did he come out to play.
Plus I think Day is his own OC.

HerbieIbis

That should of said Day gets an A, from The Herb.

solarcane

Here you go boys,
here is a list of the best 1st year performances by a college head coach.
It aint where you start its where you finish


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000495489/article/12-best-performances-by-firstyear-college-football-head-coaches

solarcane

Ohio State 2019

FAU
Cincinnati
Indiana
Miami O
Nebraska
Mish St
Northwestern
Maryland
Wisconsin
Rutgers
Penn St.
Mischigan

I think Penn state and Wisconsin were the only real good teams they played this year, but probably all of them would beat us by 21 points

We play LSU schedule with Manny coaching drop football completely for next season.

solarcane

Herb I think the OC Urban Meyer hired stayed there when Day got hired, not sure though, I thought some of Meyers staff was still there?

Terrance M Sullivan

Solar Great Stuff Man 👌👍.

Old Skool

Adios, Realus in Portalus

Old Skool

I guess the new term should be "one and gone"

Sarasota 'cane

The difference between ignorance and apathy...

Don't know..Don't care.

solarcane

Thanks Sully!

solarcane

Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | December 05, 2019 at 03:17 PM

sota, nice one

raizecane

If only CMD had a brother on the coaching staff.....this would have been perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9yL9ozHkNM

58 Straight

I can here it now, defending and making excuses. He will fail if he doesn't.

Posted by: HerbiIbis | December 05, 2019 at 12:35 PM

We will see after the bowl game what goes downs.

I agreed with you the coaching staff has to stay intact until after the bowl game.

58 Straight

bring yourself to realize it is very seldom about the U.

Posted by: solarcane | December 05, 2019 at 08:42 AM

I don't know if I agree? I think about #5 ranked Utah all the time.

https://www.ncaa.com/game/3958423

https://utahutes.com/index.aspx?path=football

https://utahutes.com/sports/football

solarcane

Ah Utah

Perhaps the coolest cheer in all of football when the student section starts that "The Ute R Us" stuff

solarcane

#4 Georgia plays #1 LSU Saturday
#2 Ohio State plays Wisconsin Saturday
# 5 Utah plays #13 Oregon Friday (I think)

Utah beats down Oregon they could be knocking on heaven's door.

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