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January 15, 2020

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UMike

So... who's y'alls pick for the first QB to hit the portal?

VA Cane

KC looking sharp....D has gotten better....but that attack...great skill guys great blocking...and PM15 is too good....very good kid...plays like a vet....thats how you run that attack...run sets pass up vice versa...got to have that QB.....this is a lot like I try to do it...I like Andy Reed

VA Cane

The deceit of motion and movement really can freeze a D...and if all your guys Big Fellas, backs receivers do it really fast with a sense of urgency...like its Death....you really can control the pace...and the game...then turn that D loose....and beat em on STs.....hard to lose folks!

I knew a college team that did that once...you know compete even fight to to play, execute fundamentals.....fast with urgency as a team....like if you dont its DIE...hit and hurt as you attack...in all 3 phases....Oh...that was uh...Miami!!

AeroCane

Solar
Do you have inside info?
All I hear is all sources point towards the U but nothing in stone yet

TJL

Jarren followed by Kosi

Terrance M Sullivan

All 3 QB'S need to be gone. The End.

raizecane

I saw some improvement on Perry's attitude this year. I think he stays but Williams needs to jetsons his ass out.

BigWindyCane1

Raize,
I think you are right. Here is my guess on the probabilities for transfers from the QB room:

JW15 - 90% chance he transfers
Kosi - 35% (attitude is positive, but still a small chance he moves on)
Martell - 50% (likes the spread, but he will not play this season. If he isn’t the QB2 on the depth chart, he definitely transfers)
Matocha - 70% (Enos pro style QB, who isn’t built for this offense. If he doesn’t have an elite arm, he will transfer)
Van Dyke - 0%

86Cane

#86isright #weaksauce

Posted by: CGNC | January 19, 2020 at 10:08 AM

Even a blind squirrel...

86Cane

Bring in LT #36

Posted by: IraqiCane | January 19, 2020 at 12:31 PM

The New Miami says YES!!!

86Cane

Is worm finally turning?

Posted by: TheHerb | January 19, 2020 at 01:01 PM

Shirley that is NOT what she said?

86Cane

So... who's y'alls pick for the first QB to hit the portal?

Posted by: UMike | January 19, 2020 at 04:58 PM

I have my money on this guy:

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/college/acc/university-of-miami/article148611694.html

TheHerb

I think King is holding out for LSU or Oakl. To jump in. As much as we need this dude, I'd hesitate a sec. If I had to play behind our offensive line.
So Rumph finally, at the last waking moment got his yearly quota of one CB. Good for him.

nemo2020

"Here I come to save the day!"
"That means that Mighty Mouse is on the way".

UM led FSU 69-66 with under a minute to go in regulation after a Chris Lykes jumper . . .
Lykes made back-to-back threes in overtime . . .
Lykes led all scorers with 24 points, including six three-pointers.

Unfortunately, FSU was way too tough for Lykes to "save the day."

solarcane

https://www.stateoftheu.com/2020/1/19/21072074/breaking-houston-cougars-qb-deriq-king-transferring-to-miami-hurricanes-talent-speed-athletic-bang

solarcane

Supposed to start classes tuesday
Manny Navarro

@Manny_Navarro
Can report former #Houston QB D’eriq King has told Miami coaches he has chosen UM and will begin classes Tuesday

86Cane

If you don't think that coaching and play calling matter just watch the Green Bay vs San Fran game. San Fran is light years ahead of GB in all aspects.

BigWindyCane1

Nice play by Jimmy Graham on that TD! Too little, too late though

BigWindyCane1


If you don't think that coaching and play calling matter just watch the Green Bay vs San Fran game. San Fran is light years ahead of GB in all aspects.

Posted by: 86Cane | January 19, 2020 at 08:43 PM

Great defense and a running game. Kyle Shanahan had a great game plan, and he really designed a great running game to attack the Green Bay defense. SF offense dominated the Green Bay defense with only 8 passes and 77 yards passing. Good old fashioned football, with a modern twist. I think Lashlee will design a rushing attack, using similar concepts.

Should be a great matchup with Andy REID, who relies primarily on the passing game, although he used the rushing attack to kill the clock after he got a lead. His route concepts, offensive design and play calling has been outstanding—having Mahomes helps a little too.

Good coaching means to design you game plan around your personnel—play to your strengths and minimize your weaknesses.

#CoachingMatters

raizecane

#CoachingMatters

Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | January 19, 2020 at 10:02 PM

**********************

#ithoughtstarsmattered?

BigWindyCane1

Raheem Mostert was a great football and track athlete at New Smyrna Beach, which is in Volusia County north of Orlando. I recall he was pretty fast, but not highly recruited like Derrick Henry was from Yulee. I don’t recall if he was even considered a RB or WR.

Mostert has been an NFL journeyman, but Kyle Shannahan knows how to use speedy backs, by putting them in space and allowing them to use their speed. Good coaching

BigWindyCane1

When Scott Frost was at UCF, he recruited and developed speedy players like Raheem Mostert to play in his offense. I think Lashlee will do that too. I think the Canes’ recruiting targets and profiles on offense will change dramatically under Lashlee

Schnelly

with Manny at the helm we could acquire every great UM player there ever was and we’d still play flat against Central Michigan and Lose to FIU. We’d at least score three in the bowl game though.

Jay Gruden for HC?

alpine

https://caneswarning.com/2020/01/19/miami-football-has-conflicting-reports-emerge-about-qb-deriq-king/

- we can probably look forward to a few more cloudy tweets from no-nothings before king's declaration

- don't believe me either; i reported that king was holed up with highsmith in cleveland
. . . turns out, he's been hanging out in the CANES tunnel with the fog-blasters turned up

- emerge from the smoke? or seek the glitter elsewhere?
final jeopardy question . . .

CGNC

CGNC Bringing The Heat Total Agreement!

Posted by: Terrance M Sullivan | January 19, 2020 at 12:12 PM

LOL. When he wrote something abut "BSing the professor", I thought how dumb can you be? Now it is forever out on the web. Employers check social media and know how to use Google.

VA - I am with you - we still have Blake James as AD and Mandy as HC. It won't be hard to be a little better than last year with Lashlee but the o-line was a sieve so I am wondering how much better it will be this season.

Green Bay looked outmatched and slow yesterday, never really in it. I didn't see the earlier game because I was driving. I hope the Chiefs win the SB.

UMike

If King really doesn't come here because Navarro "stole his shine" by breaking the news, then that dude can just keep on moving. Not sure if there is truth or it, but seen some posts.

TonyCane

That would be ridiculous. It would be like Biden refusing the VP nod in 2008 because NBC broke the story a few hours before the announcement.

TonyCane

Speaking of stars...this year’s Miami squad will the most talented on poet since 2008...nearly double the number of blue chip players that we had in 2012. We are now close to 40.

TonyCane

Talented on paper

Go Canes!!

Big, big day for this program today.

King would be a massive get. I believe he, along with our new OC can finally get our offense turned around.

BigWindyCane1

Barry Jackson

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... And one other UM note: Another front-seven experienced UM defender (NO, not Rousseau, thankfully) is exploring transferring. UM aware and looking for front 7 help

TheHerb

Close to 40 is a start. We need to be at least in the 50's to get into the top 8.
We need to bring in each recruiting cycle at least 14 four star players or better.
This will not happen, as long we find ways to lose to teams who have less talent than we do.
Coaching matters. Have a few pieces of drift wood still on staff and we know who they are. Have an A.D. who don't get it! If we ever get a coach that gets it, it won't matter about Blake but 2 that don't get it equal failure.
Do I believe we upgraded with the 2 new hires, yes. The WR hire has to be better and a good recruiter and that is what's holding us back, is our lack of a couple ace recruiters plus a Qb and an offensive line.

TonyCane

Big, big day for this program today.

King would be a massive get. I believe he, along with our new OC can finally get our offense turned around.

Posted by: Go Canes!! | January 20, 2020 at 09:50 AM

Agreed. It's interesting to see the impact (or lack thereof) of star ratings for quarterbacks.

Look at Miami's quarterbacks since Dorsey:

2003-2004: Brock Berlin (5 stars) Above average
2005-2007: Kyle Wright (5 stars) Below average as time went on (although limited by talent surrounding him)
2004-2007: Kirby Freeman (4 stars) Below average
2007: Robert Marve (4 stars) Average
2008-2011: Jacory Harris (4 stars) Average
2012-2013: Stephen Morris (3 stars) Abve average
2014-2016: Brad Kayaa (4 stars) Above average
2017-2018: Malik Rozier (3 stars) Average
2018-2019: N'Kosi Perry (4 stars) Average
2019: Jarren Williams (4 stars) Average

This doesn't include the HT quarterbacks who never even played, such as Kevin Olsen (4 stars) or Jack Allison (4 stars).

Meanwhile 3 star quarterback D'Eriq King is an elite level quarterback. Johnny Manziel, Joe Burrows, and Marcus Mariotta were also three star players coming out of high school yet all became transcendent players for their college programs. It really points out how much of a crap shoot recruiting can be, at least at the quarterback position.

And if you think this is just Miami, let me tell you about Texas. Since Vince Young here is the list of Highly Touted quarterbacks who have signed with them:

2006: Jevon Snead (4 stars): Did not win starting job, transferred to Ole Miss after 2 seasons
2009: Garrett Gilbert (5 stars): Ok, transferred
2010: Connor Wood (4 stars): Transferred after 1 year
2011: Connor Brewer (4 stars): Transferred after 1 year
2013: Tyrone Swoops (4 stars): Average
2014: Jerrod Heard (4 stars): Average, converted to wide receiver after two years
2016: Shane Buchelle (4 stars): Average, transferred to SMU and enjoyed strong success
2017: Sam Ehlinger (4 stars): Above average - borderline elite
2018: Casey Thompson (4 stars): Currently backup
2018: Cameron Rising (4 stars): Transferred to Utah after one season
2019: Roschon Johnson (4 stars): Converted to running back

And who was the best overall since Vince Young? It was 3 star recruit Colt McCoy.

alpine

Posted by: TonyCane | January 20, 2020 at 10:56 AM

nice post!

makes me also think about what a crap shoot it is even professionally, when they draft QB's re: how many 1st rounders were busts
. . . and this is with (usually) at least a couple years to look at + huge QB-experts checking them out

. . . but maybe that's with al the positions, come to think about it

DallasTX Cane

Posted by: 86Cane | January 19, 2020 at 08:43 PM

Green Bay’s been barely getting by & praying for a miracle for most of the season. Take away their HOF QB and they’re an 8-8 team. Look at their roster on the O side... ain’t much there.

I say look at 2 things across both conf champ games...

1. Trenches. Who had the best Big Uglies??
2. Defense. Specifically open field tackling.

KC & SF Lines on both sides of the ball were far better.

SF defenders are some of the best open field 1v1 tacklers, probably the best, in the league. How many times have you seen a defender bounce off a runner or try to strip the ball instead of tackle? SF aggressively tackles which limits yards after catch and blows up attempts to get the ball to the outside of their D.

Should be a good game.

solarcane

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TonyCane

Close to 40 is a start. We need to be at least in the 50's to get into the top 8.
We need to bring in each recruiting cycle at least 14 four star players or better.

Posted by: TheHerb | January 20, 2020 at 10:55 AM

Here's how it's trended:

4 & 5 Star Players Signed (% of total class)

2002: 15 (68%)
2003: 13 (54%)
2004: 12 (44%)
2005: 13 (76%)
2006: 11 (52%)
2007: 08 (42%) COACHING CHANGE
2008: 16 (50%)
2009: 10 (53%)
2010: 07 (24%)
2011: 02 (11%) COACHING CHANGE
2012: 10 (29%)
2013: 09 (43%)
2014: 10 (34%)
2015: 08 (32%)
2016: 08 (38%) COACHING CHANGE
2017: 10 (40%)
2018: 17 (68%)
2019: 11 (46%) COACHING CHANGE
2020: 12 (57%)

So what was our overall roster composition?

4 & 5 Star Players Total, % of Overall Team

2006: 46 (58% of overall roster)
2007: 42 (55% of overall roster)
2008: 42 (49% of overall roster)
2009: 41 (57% of overall roster)
2010: 39 (47% of overall roster)
2011: 28 (36% of overall roster)
2012: 21 (27% of overall roster)
2013: 23 (31% of overall roster)
2014: 23 (32% of overall roster)
2015: 28 (34% of overall roster)
2016: 27 (36% of overall roster)
2017: 29 (38% of overall roster)
2018: 38 (48% of overall roster)
2019: 35 (47% of overall roster)
2020: 41 (54% of overall roster)

DallasTX Cane

Tony - Didn’t Gilbert get injured? I seem to recall he looked pretty good but got hurt and next thing U know, Case McCoy was running the show. Do I have that timeline right? I also thought Mac gave preference to Case either because of what Colt accomplished or because he hoped to get lightning in a bottle twice.

I’ll go on record as saying that while Turf Face certainly earned his name his last 2 seasons here, I believe that most of what derailed Kyle’s career wasn’t his fault. He got sacked about a hundred times his first year starting and had how many OC’s, 4 or 5? The program was devolving into a sh-t show, both coaching and talent not performing and he wasn’t the leader needed to get at least the players in line.

TonyCane

. . . but maybe that's with al the positions, come to think about it

Posted by: alpine | January 20, 2020 at 11:05 AM

Possibly. It just sticks out with quarterbacks more as it is such a vital, visible position. If you think about it, who were our best wide receivers in the last 12 years?

Leonard Hankerson, Philip Dorsett, and Alan Hurns. All of them were three star players.

Our best tight end in the same period was David N'joku, also a three star player out of high school.

TonyCane

Dallas...it was all of that.

Gilbert got hurt. Texas changed OCs and systems. David Ash (3 Star player) became the favorite, and Gilbert transferred. Case McCoy got a bit of prefer trial treatment due to the success of his brother, and became the starter for a
Little while.

DallasTX Cane

In my very humble opinion, the “old Cane culture” of hard work, competition for every spot/every snap, crush your opponent, then celebrate when you’ve accomplished something got lost many many moons ago. It swag first as if swag creates victory instead of the opposite. Once this happened, the 4-5 star guys coming in, not all but most, either created or entered an environment of entitlement. They ASSUMED that being a star and playing at THE U = NFL and loads of $$$. The 3 star guys could never assume anything. All they have is hard work. Hence those guys outworked the others and became our best players. Ranking is so speculative with 16-22 year olds anyway that several probably became 4 star guys but were never recognized. BUT, most out worked the higher ranked players to become great. Character - heart and work ethic - separates most great athletes from merely above average.

DallasTX Cane

Thanks Tony

alpine

tony & dtx: good blogging; (canespace is better when you two are posting more)

86Cane

Speaking of stars...this year’s Miami squad will the most talented on paper since 2008...nearly double the number of blue chip players that we had in 2012. We are now close to 40.

Posted by: TonyCane | January 20, 2020 at 09:29 AM

So what you are saying is that should be good for at least 12 wins and an undefeated season, right?

VACane...how's the 12% bus coming along?

86Cane

tony & dtx: good blogging; (canespace is better when you two are posting more)

Posted by: alpine | January 20, 2020 at 12:32 PM

#FACT

86Cane

Character - heart and work ethic - separates most great athletes from merely above average.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | January 20, 2020 at 12:00 PM

Is anybody selling any of these traits on the open market? Because if they are we are going to need to order a truckload be delivered to Greentree Field in Coral Gables.

86Cane

Things that make U go hmmmmmmmmmm...

2002: 15 (68%)
2018: 17 (68%)

VA Cane

Tony great #s....DTX you hit it...execution of fundamentals, competing...outright fist fighting to get on the field, playing with intensity, dying to win...hating losing...all as a team...winning comes first then....confidence in ones self...and team follows. I am a coach....and I have never been into swag..or call it that...my players confidence is toned down more....but thats ok....winning makes you happy...makes you dance....as long as you do it with each other ok. But it got to where these kids were coming in here and goofing off, not working in practice or weight room, expecting to win by just having a U helmet and walk out there....does not happen. It has been moons my friend!!!

Soup its looking grand....custom everything for the ground up....all we got to do is get our assignments load up and we will go on a 15 game tear...beat everyone no problem.....oooppps....I just stole The New Miami playbook from Pornboy....just show up and everything is lovely
!!!!

TC I think all the QBs started out as cannot miss...but based on what I have to have from a QB....I really think they all have been average....some higher in the category some lower....but all average...a key factor is we have had what I call mostly below average OLs...some maybe average but none GOOD!

VA Cane

It is not our abilities and skills that show who we truly are....it is our choices.

One can be big fast strong smart....but if one chooses to be lazy in the weight room, doesn't put in the extra work in weight room, film study, listen and learn from coaches, learn from you fellow players, dedicate yourself to being the best, compete all out to be the starter, hate losing, and when on the field hate hit hurt (low hard clean fast) your opponent....then you end up a loser....our people for the most part are not doing this....and if a coach is not holding them to a standard...wanting to win and making all sacrifices needed to make it happen....then both HAVE to GO...NOW!

"If you don't live it, it won't come out your horn" Charlie "Bird" Parker renowned jazz musician.

guess thats why Sheriffs aint here.....the soft little fellow did not have what it takes...or the desire to make sacrifices to play and win.....his article is our New Miami....everythings hard out here....this is harder than a job.....I have done more hard work in a day than he will do in a lifetime...poor little butterfly....

BigWindyCane1

And who was the best overall since Vince Young? It was 3 star recruit Colt McCoy.

Posted by: TonyCane | January 20, 2020 at 10:56 AM

Don’t forget three star Patrick Mahommes and three star Lamar Jackson

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