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BigWindyCane1

Looking at the top 25 recruits from Florida for 2020, it appears that Clemson, LSU, Georgia and Florida got more than we did. The Canes still got their fair share, and hopefully, we got the right recruits and we develop them appropriately.
https://247sports.com/college/miami/LongFormArticle/Football-recruiting-Florida-rankings-top-25-Gervon-Dexter-Elias-Ricks-Jalen-Carter-Demarkcus-Bowman-143018448/#143018448_1

BigWindyCane1

Solar,

Good article posted about the Canes alumni. I like it, but I do think the former players are simplifying things too much. I hope the current players understand what they are hearing.

The former players definitely put in the extra work in practice and the film room, and Ed Reed was a film junkie. They also put in a lot of extra workouts during and after practices and during the offseason.

The former Canes players worked hard and they played hard, but they were serious about winning and they didn't break curfew the night before the game.

IMHO, another thing the former players aren't saying about "players policing themselves" is that when the players asked the coaches to leave and closed that locker room and turned the lights off for a players only meeting, IT WAS ON! I am not saying there was a "Code Red" (i.e., movie "A Few Good Men"), but I don't think they were drinking tea and eating crumpets.

If you weren't doing your job, that "players only" meeting in the locker room will be physically painful, and there is no one to cry to or run to. A player either mans up, takes the criticism in the spirit is was meant and improve, or cry, pout and transfer. That culture isn't for everyone.

VA Cane

Good posts all. tony i think kids get frustrated when things do not go as planned...I think they saw Enos frustrated and they felt he gave up...so they did too. It is acceptable for frustration on both sides...it happens. But when a coach gives up quits....the kids see it and do the same. That is wrong...coach got to be an adult and while things may be tough and frustrating...he still has to lead the kids...he cannot quit...and i think enos did!

Like what the old guys said....I think Reg W said guys get sensitive....you cannot be that way...you got to understand your leaders will point out faults...to help you! ER KD were the leaders...and guys followed them. we really lack leadership from coaches and players.....that makes a big mess. I hope Berrios is right rock bottom. That kid never quit...played his heart out! We have to have guys step up lead....a War on Losing....when you hate it you then can do something about it!

TonyCane

Foargot about Olson. The issue in 2006 was not the talent of WRs on the roster...it was that there were so few we had absolutely no margin for error when it came to injuries or suspensions. And we had both that year.

solarcane

Freeman and Wright had virtually no one to throw to, along with a lesser offensive line.

Posted by: TonyCane | January 29, 2020 at 11:26 PM

I think Olson,Leggit, and Shields all had 500 yrds or more receiving which would be about where Harley Osborn and Jordan ended up.
We have sucked at throwing and catching with the very best of them.

TonyCane

Coker had the worst qb to wear a Canes uniform, in Kirby Freeman. What was he against NCST, like 0-14 with 2 or 3 ints. But he did win a bowl game.

Posted by: The Herb | January 29, 2020 at 10:11 PM

By 2006, Coker should have been running the Paul Johnson offense. He had plenty of HBs, but only six scholarship wide receivers.

Freeman and Wright had virtually no one to throw to, along with a lesser offensive line.

solarcane

Soup sorry about the double post,not to swift with this phone

solarcane

Hurricanes legends discuss what’s missing in UM program, what must change

BY BARRY JACKSON AND DAVID WILSON
JANUARY 29, 2020 08:26 PM

When a current Miami Hurricanes player complained privately about several of his teammates breaking curfew before at least two games this past season -including the loss to FIU - this question kept coming to mind:Would this type of thing happen with the great UM teams?

A couple of former players insisted to me that it would not. The reason? As Canes greats Bennie Blades and Ed Reed said Wednesday, the players on those teams policed themselves.

“How can we right a ship if you’re not willing to right the ship?” Blades told me on Wednesday, while making the rounds on Radio Row in advance of Super Bowl 54. “It comes down to players. Don’t give coaches credit or discredit for what players do.


“The night before the game, your mind should be on the game itself. Jerome Brown, Melvin Bratton, Alonzo Highsmith, Winston Moss, all those guys would say, ‘Coach, can we talk to the players for a minute?’”

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Blades said he could only imagine “the rippings we would have gotten” from teammates if those players broke curfew or did something to cost their team before a game.


“It’s all about us in this room,” Blades said of players policing each other. “And that’s what it needs to get back to - police each other.”

Blades’ nephew, cornerback Al Blades Jr., is a mature, diligent young man who comports himself well. But there were a few teammates, including Jarren Williams, who decided they would go out late the night before the Golden Panthers game, long after they were supposed to be in their room for the night, according to a player on the team (not Blades).


In a Fox Sports “ReUnion” Special that aired Wednesday night from Lummus Park on South Beach, Canes great Ed Reed also spoke of players policing themselves on his elite UM teams.

“It was that accountability in the locker room first,” said Reed, who was joined by Canes legends and fellow former NFL greats Michael Irvin, Ray Lewis and Reggie Wayne on the panel.

“You wouldn’t make it out that locker room if you didn’t do the right thing. When I was there, them lights would go off, you’d hear that, Whoa.’ You’d hear that noise you heard when we played against Florida down there ... but for me, man, I wanted to uphold that legacy. We wanted to be those guys. We only had 16 scholarships when we came. Coach [Butch] Davis said, ‘Y’all will be the guy to change this back,’ and I didn’t want to leave without a national championship I could’ve came out with Reggie and all them, first round and everything -- I actually would’ve went higher -- but I would’ve never got to Baltimore.


“God don’t make no mistakes and I would’ve never won this national championship for the school, for the team, with the team, so that accountability starts in the locker room. It wasn’t the coaches policing us. They didn’t have to, but they did their job and we had to listen, like Reg said. You have to be coachable. These youngsters today think just because you go to Miami these teams are going to lay down. No! They hate you. They don’t like you. We knew everybody, every game was a national-championship game.”

But the issue is bigger than that, Wayne said. It’s also not wanting to let down your teammate.

“We did everything together,” Wayne said. “Wherever we went, we went together. It didn’t matter, so when you do everything together, when you get out there in between those lines, I didn’t want to let Reed down. He played on defense, right? I didn’t want to let him down and if I did something wrong, I didn’t take it personal because he corrected me. Like a lot of guys get sensitive. We did everything together. We took coaching. It didn’t matter if our teammates corrected us on something. We took it in stride, we critiqued ourselves and we went out there to get better.”

Irvin said: “You spend that time together eating and hanging out, but in those times you’re committing thoughts to what you want to do. Like, Dude, we’re going this year. This is where I think we miss a lot right now because when you don’t hang together, you’re not planting those championship seeds and that’s what needs to be planted. It doesn’t start in September when the season starts. That thing has to start right now, going through offseason training and you’re looking at each other, talking, Dude, this year’s going to be different. We’re going to do it this year. You’ve got to start making those commitments.”

And Lewis said: “It’s the self critique that’s made us so great. That’s what you’re talking about, right? It’s what made us great in Baltimore. Man, we critiqued each other. Coaches didn’t have to critique. Coaches just had to put in the game plan. From the game plan, when me and this man got on the field together, I’m looking at him saying, ‘Hey, 2-0, stay backside, I’m going front side and ain’t nothing getting past us…. What we’ve done needs to be taught all over again because it’s leaving us.”


And players cited other issues.

A few other highlights:

Irvin said: “If you win in Miami, you got this city for the next 40 years.”...

Jimmy Johnson joined them for a short time: “As much as I love the U, I love you guys.”...

Wayne said good-naturedly to Irvin: “I’m still the best receiver in Hurricane history.”

NEW O-LINE COACH WEIGHS IN

New offensive coordinator Garin Justise, appearing on WQAM’s Hurricane Hotline, told Joe Zagacki and Don Bailey Jr., that when he was coaching at FAU, he told himself that he would take a job at UM if he ever got the chance.

When he goes to high schools now as a UM assistant, “there’s no more, ‘that guy is probably too good for you, coach.’ It’s a pretty amazing power of the brand. It’s a national brand.”

He said playing up-tempo, which will be the Canes’ new approach, “is a great equalizer” to teams that try fancy blitzes.

Justise said “it helps to have a mobile quarterback” and UM has a couple of those now.

Of new quarterback D’Eriq King, he said “the thing that makes D’Eriq great is the play within the play” in terms of avoiding sacks and negative plays.

Justise was told that King is a “tremendous athlete, leader, person.”

He said his new offensive linemen “have been responsive to me. I’m their third offensive line coach in three years so there’s trust involved.”

Asked about his players having to block Greg Rousseau (15.5 sacks last season) and Temple transfer Quincy Roche (13 sacks) in practice this year, Justise said when he arrived, “I said we need to gain confidence” and admitted blocking Rousseau/Roche won’t help in that area.

But on the positive side, “they’re not going to see anything better than what they see in practice.”

Here’s my Wednesday piece on Teddy Bridgewater explaining to me what went down with him and the Dolphins, and a Preston Williams update.

Here’s my Wednesday piece on my conversation with Jason Taylor on numerous issues, and the Dolphins finalizing a position change.

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San Francisco 49ers quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo is interviewed by sports commentator Michael Irvin during Super Bowl Opening Night presented by BOLT24, the national kick off for Super Bowl LIV festivities at Marlins Park in Miami, Florida on Monday, January 27, 2020. Irvin discussed the UM program on Wednesday.
San Francisco 49ers quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo is interviewed by sports commentator Michael Irvin during Super Bowl Opening Night presented by BOLT24, the national kick off for Super Bowl LIV festivities at Marlins Park in Miami, Florida on Monday, January 27, 2020. Irvin discussed the UM program on Wednesday. CHARLES TRAINOR JR ADIAZ@MIAMIHERALD.COM
When a current Miami Hurricanes player complained privately about several of his teammates breaking curfew before at least two games this past season -including the loss to FIU - this question kept coming to mind:Would this type of thing happen with the great UM teams?

A couple of former players insisted to me that it would not. The reason? As Canes greats Bennie Blades and Ed Reed said Wednesday, the players on those teams policed themselves.

“How can we right a ship if you’re not willing to right the ship?” Blades told me on Wednesday, while making the rounds on Radio Row in advance of Super Bowl 54. “It comes down to players. Don’t give coaches credit or discredit for what players do.

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“The night before the game, your mind should be on the game itself. Jerome Brown, Melvin Bratton, Alonzo Highsmith, Winston Moss, all those guys would say, ‘Coach, can we talk to the players for a minute?’”

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Blades said he could only imagine “the rippings we would have gotten” from teammates if those players broke curfew or did something to cost their team before a game.


“It’s all about us in this room,” Blades said of players policing each other. “And that’s what it needs to get back to - police each other.”

Blades’ nephew, cornerback Al Blades Jr., is a mature, diligent young man who comports himself well. But there were a few teammates, including Jarren Williams, who decided they would go out late the night before the Golden Panthers game, long after they were supposed to be in their room for the night, according to a player on the team (not Blades).


In a Fox Sports “ReUnion” Special that aired Wednesday night from Lummus Park on South Beach, Canes great Ed Reed also spoke of players policing themselves on his elite UM teams.

“It was that accountability in the locker room first,” said Reed, who was joined by Canes legends and fellow former NFL greats Michael Irvin, Ray Lewis and Reggie Wayne on the panel.

“You wouldn’t make it out that locker room if you didn’t do the right thing. When I was there, them lights would go off, you’d hear that, Whoa.’ You’d hear that noise you heard when we played against Florida down there ... but for me, man, I wanted to uphold that legacy. We wanted to be those guys. We only had 16 scholarships when we came. Coach [Butch] Davis said, ‘Y’all will be the guy to change this back,’ and I didn’t want to leave without a national championship I could’ve came out with Reggie and all them, first round and everything -- I actually would’ve went higher -- but I would’ve never got to Baltimore.


“God don’t make no mistakes and I would’ve never won this national championship for the school, for the team, with the team, so that accountability starts in the locker room. It wasn’t the coaches policing us. They didn’t have to, but they did their job and we had to listen, like Reg said. You have to be coachable. These youngsters today think just because you go to Miami these teams are going to lay down. No! They hate you. They don’t like you. We knew everybody, every game was a national-championship game.”

But the issue is bigger than that, Wayne said. It’s also not wanting to let down your teammate.

“We did everything together,” Wayne said. “Wherever we went, we went together. It didn’t matter, so when you do everything together, when you get out there in between those lines, I didn’t want to let Reed down. He played on defense, right? I didn’t want to let him down and if I did something wrong, I didn’t take it personal because he corrected me. Like a lot of guys get sensitive. We did everything together. We took coaching. It didn’t matter if our teammates corrected us on something. We took it in stride, we critiqued ourselves and we went out there to get better.”

Irvin said: “You spend that time together eating and hanging out, but in those times you’re committing thoughts to what you want to do. Like, Dude, we’re going this year. This is where I think we miss a lot right now because when you don’t hang together, you’re not planting those championship seeds and that’s what needs to be planted. It doesn’t start in September when the season starts. That thing has to start right now, going through offseason training and you’re looking at each other, talking, Dude, this year’s going to be different. We’re going to do it this year. You’ve got to start making those commitments.”

And Lewis said: “It’s the self critique that’s made us so great. That’s what you’re talking about, right? It’s what made us great in Baltimore. Man, we critiqued each other. Coaches didn’t have to critique. Coaches just had to put in the game plan. From the game plan, when me and this man got on the field together, I’m looking at him saying, ‘Hey, 2-0, stay backside, I’m going front side and ain’t nothing getting past us…. What we’ve done needs to be taught all over again because it’s leaving us.”


And players cited other issues.

A few other highlights:

Irvin said: “If you win in Miami, you got this city for the next 40 years.”...

Jimmy Johnson joined them for a short time: “As much as I love the U, I love you guys.”...

Wayne said good-naturedly to Irvin: “I’m still the best receiver in Hurricane history.”

NEW O-LINE COACH WEIGHS IN

New offensive coordinator Garin Justise, appearing on WQAM’s Hurricane Hotline, told Joe Zagacki and Don Bailey Jr., that when he was coaching at FAU, he told himself that he would take a job at UM if he ever got the chance.

When he goes to high schools now as a UM assistant, “there’s no more, ‘that guy is probably too good for you, coach.’ It’s a pretty amazing power of the brand. It’s a national brand.”

He said playing up-tempo, which will be the Canes’ new approach, “is a great equalizer” to teams that try fancy blitzes.

Justise said “it helps to have a mobile quarterback” and UM has a couple of those now.

Of new quarterback D’Eriq King, he said “the thing that makes D’Eriq great is the play within the play” in terms of avoiding sacks and negative plays.

Justise was told that King is a “tremendous athlete, leader, person.”

He said his new offensive linemen “have been responsive to me. I’m their third offensive line coach in three years so there’s trust involved.”

Asked about his players having to block Greg Rousseau (15.5 sacks last season) and Temple transfer Quincy Roche (13 sacks) in practice this year, Justise said when he arrived, “I said we need to gain confidence” and admitted blocking Rousseau/Roche won’t help in that area.

But on the positive side, “they’re not going to see anything better than what they see in practice.”

Here’s my Wednesday piece on Teddy Bridgewater explaining to me what went down with him and the Dolphins, and a Preston Williams update.

Here’s my Wednesday piece on my conversation with Jason Taylor on numerous issues, and the Dolphins finalizing a position change.

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Hurricanes legends discuss what’s missing in UM program, what must change
BY BARRY JACKSON AND DAVID WILSON
JANUARY 29, 2020 08:26 PM
San Francisco 49ers quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo is interviewed by sports commentator Michael Irvin during Super Bowl Opening Night presented by BOLT24, the national kick off for Super Bowl LIV festivities at Marlins Park in Miami, Florida on Monday, January 27, 2020. Irvin discussed the UM program on Wednesday.
San Francisco 49ers quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo is interviewed by sports commentator Michael Irvin during Super Bowl Opening Night presented by BOLT24, the national kick off for Super Bowl LIV festivities at Marlins Park in Miami, Florida on Monday, January 27, 2020. Irvin discussed the UM program on Wednesday. CHARLES TRAINOR JR ADIAZ@MIAMIHERALD.COM
When a current Miami Hurricanes player complained privately about several of his teammates breaking curfew before at least two games this past season -including the loss to FIU - this question kept coming to mind:Would this type of thing happen with the great UM teams?

A couple of former players insisted to me that it would not. The reason? As Canes greats Bennie Blades and Ed Reed said Wednesday, the players on those teams policed themselves.

“How can we right a ship if you’re not willing to right the ship?” Blades told me on Wednesday, while making the rounds on Radio Row in advance of Super Bowl 54. “It comes down to players. Don’t give coaches credit or discredit for what players do.

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“The night before the game, your mind should be on the game itself. Jerome Brown, Melvin Bratton, Alonzo Highsmith, Winston Moss, all those guys would say, ‘Coach, can we talk to the players for a minute?’”

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Blades said he could only imagine “the rippings we would have gotten” from teammates if those players broke curfew or did something to cost their team before a game.


“It’s all about us in this room,” Blades said of players policing each other. “And that’s what it needs to get back to - police each other.”

Blades’ nephew, cornerback Al Blades Jr., is a mature, diligent young man who comports himself well. But there were a few teammates, including Jarren Williams, who decided they would go out late the night before the Golden Panthers game, long after they were supposed to be in their room for the night, according to a player on the team (not Blades).


In a Fox Sports “ReUnion” Special that aired Wednesday night from Lummus Park on South Beach, Canes great Ed Reed also spoke of players policing themselves on his elite UM teams.

“It was that accountability in the locker room first,” said Reed, who was joined by Canes legends and fellow former NFL greats Michael Irvin, Ray Lewis and Reggie Wayne on the panel.

“You wouldn’t make it out that locker room if you didn’t do the right thing. When I was there, them lights would go off, you’d hear that, Whoa.’ You’d hear that noise you heard when we played against Florida down there ... but for me, man, I wanted to uphold that legacy. We wanted to be those guys. We only had 16 scholarships when we came. Coach [Butch] Davis said, ‘Y’all will be the guy to change this back,’ and I didn’t want to leave without a national championship I could’ve came out with Reggie and all them, first round and everything -- I actually would’ve went higher -- but I would’ve never got to Baltimore.


“God don’t make no mistakes and I would’ve never won this national championship for the school, for the team, with the team, so that accountability starts in the locker room. It wasn’t the coaches policing us. They didn’t have to, but they did their job and we had to listen, like Reg said. You have to be coachable. These youngsters today think just because you go to Miami these teams are going to lay down. No! They hate you. They don’t like you. We knew everybody, every game was a national-championship game.”

But the issue is bigger than that, Wayne said. It’s also not wanting to let down your teammate.

“We did everything together,” Wayne said. “Wherever we went, we went together. It didn’t matter, so when you do everything together, when you get out there in between those lines, I didn’t want to let Reed down. He played on defense, right? I didn’t want to let him down and if I did something wrong, I didn’t take it personal because he corrected me. Like a lot of guys get sensitive. We did everything together. We took coaching. It didn’t matter if our teammates corrected us on something. We took it in stride, we critiqued ourselves and we went out there to get better.”

Irvin said: “You spend that time together eating and hanging out, but in those times you’re committing thoughts to what you want to do. Like, Dude, we’re going this year. This is where I think we miss a lot right now because when you don’t hang together, you’re not planting those championship seeds and that’s what needs to be planted. It doesn’t start in September when the season starts. That thing has to start right now, going through offseason training and you’re looking at each other, talking, Dude, this year’s going to be different. We’re going to do it this year. You’ve got to start making those commitments.”

And Lewis said: “It’s the self critique that’s made us so great. That’s what you’re talking about, right? It’s what made us great in Baltimore. Man, we critiqued each other. Coaches didn’t have to critique. Coaches just had to put in the game plan. From the game plan, when me and this man got on the field together, I’m looking at him saying, ‘Hey, 2-0, stay backside, I’m going front side and ain’t nothing getting past us…. What we’ve done needs to be taught all over again because it’s leaving us.”


And players cited other issues.

A few other highlights:

Irvin said: “If you win in Miami, you got this city for the next 40 years.”...

Jimmy Johnson joined them for a short time: “As much as I love the U, I love you guys.”...

Wayne said good-naturedly to Irvin: “I’m still the best receiver in Hurricane history.”

NEW O-LINE COACH WEIGHS IN

New offensive coordinator Garin Justise, appearing on WQAM’s Hurricane Hotline, told Joe Zagacki and Don Bailey Jr., that when he was coaching at FAU, he told himself that he would take a job at UM if he ever got the chance.

When he goes to high schools now as a UM assistant, “there’s no more, ‘that guy is probably too good for you, coach.’ It’s a pretty amazing power of the brand. It’s a national brand.”

He said playing up-tempo, which will be the Canes’ new approach, “is a great equalizer” to teams that try fancy blitzes.

Justise said “it helps to have a mobile quarterback” and UM has a couple of those now.

Of new quarterback D’Eriq King, he said “the thing that makes D’Eriq great is the play within the play” in terms of avoiding sacks and negative plays.

Justise was told that King is a “tremendous athlete, leader, person.”

He said his new offensive linemen “have been responsive to me. I’m their third offensive line coach in three years so there’s trust involved.”

58 Straight

What was he against NCST, like 0-14 with 2 or 3 ints. But he did win a bowl game.

Posted by: The Herb | January 29, 2020 at 10:11 PM

But the sun was in his eyes.

He DID beat FSU in Tally. I was there with Mrs. 86 and Canechic and her son. I called it and we won. The rest is HISTORY!

The Herb

Coker had the worst qb to wear a Canes uniform, in Kirby Freeman. What was he against NCST, like 0-14 with 2 or 3 ints. But he did win a bowl game.

roachcane77

OK SOUP... It's on!

(I could STILL switch places with you, and take the "OVER" on this wager... )

roachcane77

With all the fasting, drinking and spray painting the porcelain I have to do, it's become like some kind of rectal religious rite.
Posted by: Old Skool | January 29, 2020 at 09:18 AM

Ugh... TOO SOON, Old Skool, TOO SOON! (Don't remind me!😫😂)

TonyCane

86, that was a beleaguered group of players led by a quarterback who had given up on the OC, and an OC that may have given up on his team. We heard prior to the game that the offense was disinterested and it showed. Also read elsewhere that Enos had (out of frustration?) regressed back into parts of the Mark Richt offense as players just were not taking to what he was trying to teach. VA Cane can probably confirm this, but emotion plays a big part. The offfensive players - or at least Jarren - had lost faith in Enos and vice versa. It was a recipe for disaster.

Although the offense was slightly better than Coker’s last season - which saw just 20 puts a game - at least Coker had the (self generated) excuse of personnel shortages. Miami entered 2019 with a much deeper offensive roster and still produced terrible results. Had a change not been made. I expected Miami’s output to dip to 15 points per game.

I’m guessing it will be closer to the mid 30s now. Sweet spot would be +40, as that is championship level.

BigWindyCane1

“Football is a production business,” [Braxton] Berrios said. “You don’t have too much patience, but understand that it is a process. I truly expect the Hurricanes to be a lot better than they were last year. I think that was bottom. I truly believe that was rock bottom. After last year, you should have zero patience in relation to last year.”

BigWindyCane1

CGNC,

We all know that defense wins championships! San Francisco has a great defense.

Therefore, my pick is . . . .Kansas City (Mahomes)!

TheHerb

Mahomes, No doubt!

CGNC

Who is everyone's favorite to win the Superbowl? I am going with the Chiefs, big fan of Mahomes who, btw was a 3* in high school according to Rivals,

raizecane

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/north-dakota-antiques-roadshow-guest-literally-floored-by-worth-of-rolex-he-paid-346-in-1974

I need to check my attic.......

TheHerb

Alpine,
Your favorite is a basketball guru. Shout out to him to get all the good and bad info u need.

86Cane

First game blog title already written:

"Thirty Four Or More Or Shut The Door!"

86Cane

I'm "in" for all 8 "regular season" ACC games at $1 per pop!

Posted by: roachcane77 | January 28, 2020 at 09:30 PM

OK, OK...bet is $1/regular season game except for first three that we have agreed to waive.

Let's see if waiving them would have worked out in anybody's favor. I see why you would want to waive them but you never know with new coordinator, new QB, new OL, etc., etc.

Old Skool

One benign polyp Solar... all good. It had 15 years since my LAST one at 50... (I think I'm good for the duration now... )

Posted by: roachcane77 | January 28, 2020 at 08:28 PM

Good for you Roach.

After my pre-cancerous polyp, I'm on the bi-annual plan. With all the fasting, drinking and spray painting the porcelain I have to do, it's become like some kind of rectal religious rite.

orange 'n green in the vein

Monday night SoBe nightlife claims another victim, surprisingly.

alpine

Posted by: TonyCane | January 29, 2020 at 12:13 AM

agree

alpine

anyone else watch canes mens bb?

excellent game (without leading scorer lykes)!

love watching the growth of the frosh,
. . . still not seeing all that many minutes from walker, but that's an exciting dude!
. . . could be a real gift next year alongside beverly & harlond

hope coach L can get another excellent recruiting class like last year!

TonyCane

JJ is right about one thing, if you're Bama, Clemson and OSU Stevie Wonder could win 10 games coaching those teams. I wouldn't say there were a dozen teams loaded with talent but there is At least 6 or 7.
Clarke and Smith got bumped to 4 star and Robert's got bumped back to 3 star, which means we got a whopping 9 four star players and had 12 four star decomits. I'm assuming JJ wasn't counting us as one of those 12 teams loaded with talent.
The offense will make a big difference next year, if they can get everyone on the same page.
Talent does win out, unless u are Miami playing in the coastal, where u play not to lose, instead of playing to win.

Posted by: HerbieIbis | January 28, 2020 at 09:31 PM

Technically D'Eriq King and Roche are 3 stars and 2 stars respectively. But based on performance since entering CFB, Miami added a 5 star player and 4 star player in the transfer portal.

solarcane

roach,
glad to here that
Here's to your good health

BigWindyCane1

No Lykes? No problem tonight.

Looks like the Canes men basketball team will beat Virginia Tech tonight, 71-61. This season, any ACC win by the Canes is a good win

BigWindyCane1

Herb,

Good point. To turn this thing around, the Canes will have to win and score more than what is expected next season. Recruits like those 12 four-star decommits want to play with a winner, and location is just one factor—but not the major factor—in a recruits’ college decision

HerbieIbis

JJ is right about one thing, if you're Bama, Clemson and OSU Stevie Wonder could win 10 games coaching those teams. I wouldn't say there were a dozen teams loaded with talent but there is At least 6 or 7.
Clarke and Smith got bumped to 4 star and Robert's got bumped back to 3 star, which means we got a whopping 9 four star players and had 12 four star decomits. I'm assuming JJ wasn't counting us as one of those 12 teams loaded with talent.
The offense will make a big difference next year, if they can get everyone on the same page.
Talent does win out, unless u are Miami playing in the coastal, where u play not to lose, instead of playing to win.

roachcane77

Bro... I KNOW what we have and DON'T have... I'm PULLING for us to go undefeated!
(I'm an ORIGINAL 12%, from the days of Omar, remember?)

I'm "in" for all 8 "regular season" ACC games at $1 per pop!

Not "scared," (rather I'm hopeful), and reluctant to bet against our team's best interest.

86Cane

Or are you scared of King and Lashlee?

Remember we have no offensive line right?

And no WR, most of who are Freshmen?

And, well U know, stuff like that.

86Cane

OK, so then let's make it $100/game over 9 games and you should be able to eat groceries all year?

86Cane

You don't think we'll lay 34+ against Clemson???

Posted by: roachcane77 | January 28, 2020 at 08:22 PM

CHILD PLEASE!

We prolly get a bloody nose in the parking lot and go crying home to Mommy for our blanky.

roachcane77

*had been

roachcane77

Soup=Shark Tank
Posted by: solarcane | January 28, 2020 at 07:21 PM

Yeah, I'm retired now SOUP... I bet for the "sport" of it... not for my groceries! (And like I said, I HOPE I lose, and we're OVER 34 EVERY week!)

One benign polyp Solar... all good. It had 15 years since my LAST one at 50... (I think I'm good for the duration now... )

"Hey man where do you want me to put this crap?"😂😂😂

roachcane77

Yee have little faith!

roachcane77

You don't think we'll lay 34+ against Clemson???

solarcane

Sorry gang, been out of commission for a bit. (Colonoscopy yesterday. Fun, Fun, FUN!)
Posted by: roachcane77 | January 28, 2020 at 07:03 PM

Talk about a fun time.
Feel for ya roach.

After a couple delightful Colonoscopies, This last trip I opted out for the doo doo in the box and ship it in.

Best part was getting to say to the UPS store employee
"Hey man where do you want me to put this crap?"
Which got a good laugh from the lady cashier.

solarcane

If you want to increase the weekly bet to $10/game over 9 games I am good with that too.

Posted by: 86Cane | January 28, 2020 at 07:15 PM

Soup=Shark Tank

86Cane

If you want to increase the weekly bet to $10/game over 9 games I am good with that too.

86Cane

Miami at Michigan State
Pitt at Miami
Miami at Wake Forest
North Carolina at Miami
Miami at Virginia
Florida State at Miami
Miami at Virginia Tech
Miami at Georgia Tech
Duke at Miami

So whatta say, DEAL?

Posted by: roachcane77 | January 28, 2020 at 07:03 PM

I will throw out the first three games. I will take the bet one these 9 games. No ACC Championsghip game. Good try on that one.

So whatta U say, deal?

86Cane

In addition, Donaldson needs to lose some weight and be placed on a strict diet or face suspensions. It is for his own good.

Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | January 28, 2020 at 05:54 PM

While fans are encouraged to be Fappy (Fat and Happy) players are not. Fat and slow is no way to go through life. In HS Donaldson was bigger than everybody else and basically just fell on people and crushed them. That gig ended as soon as he stepped onto a college field. Time to step it up a notch if he has any plans on playing in the NFL.

solarcane

Did you read where the 49ers didn't like Miami's practice field so they paid to put in their own practice field,

then the Canes said fk your practice field take it with you when you go, we like our own practice field.

Dam right

roachcane77

Sorry gang, been out of commission for a bit. (Colonoscopy yesterday. Fun, Fun, FUN!)

So SOUP, here's the bet I'm willing to commit to... JUST "limit the wager" to ACC opponents ONLY. (In other words, eliminate the first 4 games.) We could even include the ACC Championship game, should we qualify...

I'm HOPING I LOSE $9! (I would LOVE for us to score 34+ points in our last 8 games, and the ACC Championship!)

Temple at Miami
Wagner at Miami
UAB at Miami
Miami at Michigan State
Pitt at Miami
Miami at Wake Forest
North Carolina at Miami
Miami at Virginia
Florida State at Miami
Miami at Virginia Tech
Miami at Georgia Tech
Duke at Miami

So whatta say, DEAL?

VA Cane

While the TO chain and the rings might have been fun for some, I would agree with Soup and Nemo....lose the jewelry and dancing around.

As a coach, I should not have to have bling on the sideline to con you into doing your job. You HAVE to do your job to play for me...you should want to do your job. Rewards are great...in football....WINNING is the greatest reward! WINNING together with your teammates is the greatest feeling in the world!!

Lets try this new approach along with the changes we expect to see in 2020. Change is good!

BigWindyCane1

I think Jalen Rivers needs to start or see substantial playing time next season.

In addition, Donaldson needs to lose some weight and be placed on a strict diet or face suspensions. It is for his own good.

With those changes and steady improvement among the other OLs, the Canes should see some improvements along the offensive line.

BigWindyCane1

Jimmy Johnson likes CMD?

Well, I am not convinced, but I do respect JJ, so I will have to give him the benefit of the doubt for now. Listening to criticism, changing and adapting are all good signs. Out of respect for one of the greatest football coaches of all time, I will have to just wait and see. I hope JJ is right. This season was very very disappointing.

solarcane

JJ coaching up Diaz, a good sign


▪ When Johnson watched Miami Hurricanes football games this year, he noticed a couple areas where he thought Manny Diaz could do something different.

But then JJ wondered this: Should he call Diaz and tell him? After all, they had developed a good relationship last offseason, with Diaz taking his assistants to Johnson’s home in the Keys in the spring, and Johnson visiting practice last August.

Johnson, who admits he was “a little surprised” by Miami’s 6-7 season, decided to make a couple of those phone calls to Diaz - on topics that will remain between himself and Diaz - and he’s glad he did.

“There were a couple things I thought he could have done had he been a head coach longer,” Johnson said Tuesday during a Fox Sports media availability in advance of Sunday’s Super Bowl 56 coverage on the network, where Johnson will be in his usual chair on the pregame studio show from Hard Rock Stadium.

“I was hesitant a little bit about making the phone call a time or two. But he was very, very good about it. I think he will be fine. I’m still confident he can get it done. He’s a hard worker, he’s confident, he’s smart. The whole key is recruiting some good players. You look at the top dozen schools in college football, their talent is so much better than the rest of them. There is a world of difference. My wife Rhonda could win 10 games at those dozen schools. It’s not the qualify of the coaching, it’s the qualify of the recruiting.”

▪ Former Dolphins coach and ex-UM assistant coach Dave Wannstedt said UM got the “steal of the transfer portal” in quarterback D’Eriq King, and Johnson said Diaz’s move to an up-tempo spread offense shows a willingness to adapt.


“I talked to [Chiefs coach] Andy Reid about it this morning,” Johnson said of the spread offense. “The thing I admire about Andy is you have been able to adapt year after year according to the talent you have on your team. That’s what the spread is, that’s college offenses [now]. You’ve got to be able to adapt.”

Wannstedt said of King: “I was doing a show on the Big Ten Network and they announced this quarterback King from Houston was going to take his redshirt year and get better and learn the offense more and come back next year.

“I said, ‘Let me tell you something - and I was on air saying this - ‘this kid is going to be at Oklahoma [in 2020]. He is going to be taking Jalen Hurts’ place. He ain’t coming back to Houston. He’s just saving another year.’

“That’s what happened but he ended up at the U. Wow. That’s exciting. They got the defense, they can run the ball. I was at their practice last spring. I’m a big Manny Diaz fan.”

solarcane

And can we lose all of that dancing around on the sideline until we have something to dance about?

Posted by: 86Cane | January 28, 2020 at 05:07 PM

Amen! X 1000

nemo2020

And can we lose all of that dancing around on the sideline until we have something to dance about?

Posted by: 86Cane | January 28, 2020 at 05:07 PM

And lose the bling too. It looks stupid when U lose.

86Cane

For me, If I see a new attitude, a lot more effort and hustle, a desire to win a hate to lose attitude....resulting in 1 or 2 more wins and playing hard so that we are in every game with a chance to win...I will consider that progress...not turn around..progress.

Posted by: VA Cane | January 28, 2020 at 05:03 PM

And can we lose all of that dancing around on the sideline until we have something to dance about?

86Cane

Checking now to see how much stuff he ordered from Amazon.

Posted by: solarcane | January 28, 2020 at 05:00 PM

Too funny. You got some 'splaining to do!

VA Cane


You do need dynamic players...you need a couple good DL, LBs, DBs...you need a good kicker and punter, you need a couple good OL WR...a back and a QB. You got to have that QB....got to. Look back at the 2002-2002 teams...many good players in the key spots...and leaders...primary leaders were ER20 KD11. The roster is full of strong players. That team would beat Bama LSU clemson OSU....they had the greatest talent ever put into a team..

I looked at the roster now....other than the few guys i know who are good....who the hell are the rest of these guys? Not strong roster...not that much talent....not players just bodies to fill a scholarship....not much more than that.
Along with strong roster you need a really strong HC! HS JJ DE BJ...strong! Clappy Onion AlPa poor excuses for HC....CMR...a burned out second tier guy good but thats all. Now Manhole....poor excuse for HC. Cannot win with that roster and coaches.

As for QB...we have not had a really outstanding QB since KD11....bottom line they were not good QBS. Now I know some of you loved Morris and Kaaya...and they were the best we have had since then...but they were average or slightly better. They were not leaders and they did not have really good skills....and they really had no talent around them that helped make them better. They had to carry the load and with lack of other good players...they could not do it all.

I am not from the what if school....I do not think in that vein. I am a coach and I deal in facts...only way in this game. What if we had not lost a few games in 14 years? Well we would have won all 14 titles instead of 11...so what. we lost we got beat as a team and losing fuels winning...you hate to lose..I DO!

While the what if fact makes one feel good, its just an excuse that reads like "if we only had done a little more we would be on top." No we would not. This program has been really meek mild average and apathetical since 2003 it is a bad program....the BOT the AD the coaches and staff the players simply do not care about winning....its a check a job a way to get a college degree and if you lose thats ok its just a game.

Stats are nice for some people as are hopes wishes and dreams that can be drawn from and wrapped around said stats. I do not care about that fantasy, I want to deal with now and what has to be done to WIN. I like the Lashley hire, I like bringing in King. ON paper it looks like a better plan than the garbage we have seen since 2003.You have the worse O line in the nation, you have average guys in the skill positions, and it all is new, and has to be taught and learned quickly. The D will be ok....some holes. Kicking should be better, but STs still a ?!

Above all the "I do not care attitude" still reeks in the program top to bottom....these people BOT to players want winning to come ez...like falling off a log! They do not want to work hard, they do not care, it is way down on the priority list....and losing is ok...part of life....dont let it bother you its just a game!

Each spring allows a chance to change the past...by Working Hard changing the attitude...I could care less about what if we had done this or that...I want to know what are you going to do to do starting today to get started back to decency? how hard are you going to work? Get in shape get your head straight hate losing and find ways to win....For me, If I see a new attitude, a lot more effort and hustle, a desire to win a hate to lose attitude....resulting in 1 or 2 more wins and playing hard so that we are in every game with a chance to win...I will consider that progress...not turn around..progress.

solarcane

Ate a half bag of those little Pepperoni slices you buy to sprinkle on store bought pizza.
Didnt bother to wipe my hands off, then typed a bit to some internet friends.

Came back to find the cat has typed a couple pages of Helter Skelter stuff while licking the keyboard clean.
Checking now to see how much stuff he ordered from Amazon.

solarcane

Come on Soup,
We play in that brutal ACC Coastal division and play out of conference games against teams like Central Michigan how on earth could a team put up 34 points a game against that kind of competition?

86Cane

That is a mind boggling stat.

Posted by: Go Canes!! | January 28, 2020 at 02:54 PM

There IT is right there.

Go Canes!!

Posted by: 86Cane | January 28, 2020 at 11:42 AM

I know it's not an exact science but let this sink in for a minute.

If the Miami Hurricanes had scored exactly 34 points in each game over the last four season and our record would be...wait for it....

36 wins
2 losses
1 tie

One of the losses is the 5 INT game against VT last season. The other is Clemson in the ACCCG in 2017.

That is a mind boggling stat.

CGNC

Happy Tuesday peeps!

solarcane

With what seems like every quarterback that was born in Texas, played high school football in Texas played college quarterback in Texas average around 40 or 50 tds a season from Pop Warner to the NFL

I`m wondering how many elite corner backs and safeties come out of Texas high schools and colleges?

nemo2020

Before lunch I heard Deion Sanders being interviewed on one of the national sports talk radio shows. Of course, the former FSU and NFL star is in town for the Super Bowl on Sunday.

Interestingly, he mentioned that his youngest son [Shedeur Sanders] is a star quarterback in high school; and that he and his son are visiting the U on Saturday. So, I did a little research.

The race to land the 2021 pro-style quarterback is heating up on the recruiting trail. Entering his senior season, the 6-foot-2, 180 pound pro-style quarterback out of Cedar Hill, Texas already holds offers from schools like Alabama, Baylor, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Oregon, Tennessee, UCLA, and of course, FSU.

Through his first three seasons, Sanders racked up 8,925 passing yards and 123 touchdown passes in 41 games. At this rate, he’ll easily pass Texas icons like Kyler Murray and Case McCoy on Texas’ career passing yards list. Sanders already ranks 11th in Texas high school football history in career touchdown passes, and if he keeps his 41 touchdown-per-season pace, he’ll finish with the fourth-most in state history.

He says that Alabama is his "dream school". But Shedeur's older brother, cornerback Shilo Sanders, signed with South Carolina. And FSU is clearly on his mind. “FSU, my dad has been [t]here before, it just feels real good — but — on the other hand, I’m going to college and I’m going to make my own decision," Sanders told 247Sports. "I’m not going to go to a college based off my dad’s decision and what he did [t]here. I’m not saying I’m going to fully commit [t]here. It’s still a big decision.”

Currently, he has a three star rating on Rivals and a four star rating on ESPN. Neither site lists the U as one of his "interest schools".

Probably, Deion and his son are merely making an informal and unofficial visit to the U this weekend. Moreover, it is unlikely that Shedeur Sanders would commit to UM over FSU, ALA, or South Carolina. Moreover, UM isn't in the market these days for "pro style" quaterbacks. But who knows? Stranger things have happened, I guess.

P.S. Prime Time was definitely "open" to the U. Inrerestingly, he seemed a little down on FSU for not hiring him as head coach after Coach Taggart was fired. He stongly stated his intention to become a head coach at a major university as soon as next year.

HerbieIbis

There are a lot of whopping things that went wrong, with that offense, that were offensive!

86Cane

From a previous blog article: Scoring Is Hard

The Hurricanes averaged a paltry 25.7 points in 2019. If you take out the 63 points they scored against Bethune Cookman it goes down to 22.5 PPG during the season. That is simply not going to get it done in today's college football.

Shirley, I don't have to remind you that Miami used three weeks of "practice" to generate a whopping ZERO points in their bowl game against long time college football powerhouse La Tech. You're very welcome.

86Cane

Posted by: 86Cane | January 27, 2020 at 02:14 PM

100% agree.

Posted by: Go Canes!! | January 28, 2020 at 09:15 AM

Cats and dogs living together in perfect harmony?

Hell hath frozen over!

solarcane

Soup.
you will have a 3 dollar cushion after the first three games.
Somewhere in the season we may score 34 points and still lose the game and you are still gold.

On another thought
I think we will average over 34 points for the season because Manny is going to run the scores up as high as possible on the cup cakes. jmo

solarcane

The key to the scoring is King can run the ball in from the red zone
Williams and the kickers cost us a lot of points.

Harry I think you are right, King would have won some games here last year even with Enos.


UMike

Only twice if we count only Power 5 teams 😂😂

raizecane

Good thing I had you clear that up......

Go Canes!!

Posted by: 86Cane | January 27, 2020 at 02:14 PM

100% agree.

UMike

Miami scored 34 or more 3 times last season alone lol

86Cane

Raize...let me clarify my bet.

If the Canes score 34 OR MORE points in a game I win that week $1. If they score 33 OR LESS, Roach wins the bet that week $1.

raizecane

Roach...I will make you a bet.

If we score 34 you owe me $1.

If we don't I owe you $1.

At the end of the season we will settle up.

Deal?

Posted by: 86Cane | January 27, 2020 at 09:37 PM

*****************************************

Roach, this is like stealing candy from a baby. Canes have not scored 34 since Nov 12, 2016.

Harry Miller

Big Windy I agree with every thing you say. Plus King is going to turn more then a few failed red zone attempt's into a red zone touchdowns. Once these wide receivers realize what they have to work with in King they will work a lot harder, have better concentration knowing they will get the balls coming their way when they catch it.

We going to score this year.

BigWindyCane1

Very excited about Lashlee! I just love the interest he has locally with the coaches and recruits, and I love the excitement he brings nationally bringing in King and others. I would be very surprised if King doesn’t generate at least 40 TDS this season. By the time the Canes roll into East Lansing, this offense should be humming at 34+ points a game. WRs, RBs and TEs will get very excited. We will see a new HARLEY, Payton, Pope, WIGGINS and others. Even the RBs will put up big numbers. This is an offense that gets me pumped. If Lashlee and King can’t get it done, the Canes are a lost cause

BigWindyCane1

Former Dolphins QB Tannehill didn’t make it to the super bowl, but longtime Dolphins QBs Chad Henne and Matt Moore are in the super bowl

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article239148213.html

HerbieIbis

Yeah Solar, the WR's are a bit of a ? Mark, especially with 5 freshmen of the 8 we have.

solarcane

Go for it Soup!

You got a qb that was responsible for 50 tds in ONE season...then again you have a bunch of receivers that probably dropped 20.

You got this.

86Cane

Roach...I will make you a bet.

If we score 34 you owe me $1.

If we don't I owe you $1.

At the end of the season we will settle up.

Deal?

86Cane

Scoring 34 EVERYTIME would be like hitting the lottery...

Posted by: roachcane77 | January 27, 2020 at 09:02 PM

Fine, I can see that the Negative Nancies have gotten to you too. OK, one for The Ghost.

NO SOUP FOR YOU!

roachcane77

Enos is ghost.

We will DEFINITELY score MORE, (and less), throughout the 2020 season.

Sorry SOUP... Scoring 34 EVERYTIME would be like hitting the lottery...

86Cane

Henceforth...it shall be written that the Miami Hurricanes football team shall score exactly 34 points in each game in 2020, not less or more, but always 34 points as prescribed by 86Cane and approved by SolarCane on this day 27th of January in the year of our Lord 2020.

All in favor respond by saying: "Lashlee will set us free".

All opposed respond by saying: "Enos is ghost".

Let the voting commence and continue until the 31st of January. All who wish to be heard please come forward at this time.

solarcane

soup,
I think you got a real shot on the scores this year.

No Williams, no Bubba, no Enos thats 14 a game right there before the coin toss.

58 Straight

Bosher pulls an ST #26:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCKDw-THl1I

58 Straight

unless of course Manny pulls some shyt nobody in college football has ever witnessed.

Posted by: solarcane | January 27, 2020 at 06:54 PM

Now what makes you think that he would...OK, never mind. He messes with my scores and I will run on the field with TSully and we will tackle his azz, snatch the "Turnover Chain" and run back up in the stands before anybody knows what is happening.

solarcane

Taylor Pro Bowl assassin

https://youtu.be/-fr8hrONBBo

solarcane

After watching the teams play tag in the Pro bowl I thought I thought this was a pretty good example of the way we used to play,

Sean Taylor is a grown ass man
://twitter.com/i/status/1221435859183992839

solarcane

I think we had like 118 points after three games last season.

With the second coming of David Klingler and no Florida we should be good for at least 150 points after three games with ease.

That will pad up the scores a little and should keep us in the 34 point Soupbone bracket all the way unless of course Manny pulls some shyt nobody in college football has ever witnessed.

BigWindyCane1

LB Ja’Corey Hammett from Miami Northwestern committed during junior day. He is listed at 6'2", 210 lbs, and he has a frame that can pack on some additional weight. Hammett has height, and he is a pretty good player. That gives us three from MNW in 2021.

I hope we can get WR Romello Brinson back in the fold. I watched him over the last two years, and Brinson is a real player, and he always seem to make the big plays when MNW needed them.

BigWindyCane1

I like 34-17. Let's roll with it!

Herbieibis

We will get run on a little bit next year, not real bad but our tackles need to step up.

Terrance M Sullivan

Soupster Go For It. I probably personally would go for 34-24 Every Game.

86Cane

My prediction is 3 uninspiring games to start the season and a pummeling at Michigan State is what finally sends Manny packing

Posted by: Schnelly | January 27, 2020 at 03:55 PM

That's a nice dose of optimism right there. Did you fail to read the 12-0 prediction for 2020?

I am thinking about changing my weekly game score from 34-17 in 2019 to 34-17 in 2020. What do you guys think?

Schnelly

We could have 100% blue chip recruits and it won’t matter because our head coach sucks and the culture around program is tainted in mediocrity.

My prediction is 3 uninspiring games to start the season and a pummeling at Michigan State is what finally sends Manny packing

solarcane

Herb,
I dunno either,I'm hoping Van Dyke is a gunslinger and gets the ball out pronto.

86Cane

You need 7 or 8 special players to be in the conversation with the elite teams.

Posted by: TheWordFromTheHerb | January 27, 2020 at 11:15 AM

Not sure about 7-8 special players but that would certainly help. The ONE special player we have needed the most but have not found plays one position: QB.

HerbieIbis

Solar,
I may be wrong but I don't know if TVD can run this type offense
He would be okay as a passer but running and being quick enough with his feet, I'd have to see it to believe it.

orange 'n green in the vein

Blob is useless unless you're selling subscriptions to a paysite to entertain recruitiniks with projections they have to pay to read in the off season.

Here's actual useful information about 'talent' levels of the football team over the same span instead of this drivel (of course this is free and you don't have to use a credit card to pretend you're informed by looking it up so that puts a damper on the paysite's shine):

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?abbr=M&collegeName=Miami+%28Fla.%29&abbrFlag=0&type=school

solarcane

King leaves, who do we have? To get to the top that question has to be answered.
Posted by: TheWordFromTheHerb | January 27, 2020 at 11:15 AM

Herb,
This would be my guess

Van Dyke redshirts but plays his max snaps in clean up time
Lashlee develops relationship with Van Dyke and grooms him to move into starter next year.

Mean time a quality high school spread qb commits while Van Dyke is starting and learns the system without being forced into games as a freshman.

I realize this is the way it would unfold on most teams, I just hope Lashlee is the real deal and hangs around.jmo

TheWordFromTheHerb

As I stated before we need to be in the mid 50's with 4 star or better to be consistently a playa in the top 10.
You need 7 or 8 special players to be in the conversation with the elite teams.
Yes there are teams from non power 5 conferences that have been playing at a high level with way less talent but generally when they play against a power house they get beat.
The ACC is not a power house conference, no different than CUSA. The major difference is we have Clemson. At the rate they are recruiting, they will continue to run roughshod through this conference into the foreseeable future.
We have to recruit better. We need to bring in at least 14 four star or better players each cycle. We have been nickel and diming to much.
Being a consistent winner has been eluding us for years and has hindered our ability to recruit our own backyard. The roaches scatter when the lights come on.
Us having one failed coach after another doesn't help stability either.
We aren't that far off but we are no closer to where we need to be either.
Two things stick out to me:
One, we can't consistently win on the road and two we keep losing to less talented teams.
Those 2 trends have to stop.
We are finally moving into the 21 century going to the spread, about 5 years to late but finally. This will help the offense, no doubt! Have to recruit the right qb's to run it. When King leaves, who do we have? To get to the top that question has to be answered.
Our defense is good. Great, not yet. Playing in the ACC makes our defense some times look better than it is. The question is how would we look if we played in the SEC West, with a schedule of Auburn, LSU, Bama and rising Tex. A&M? Manny has this year to figure this mess out. At least he took some steps in the right direction but needs to stop the bleeding in recruiting with all these decomits, we have experienced the last 3 to 4 years. We would be loaded with talent. Lost 5 four star WR's in this class alone. Already have 9 for this 2021 class. Then have to turn around and rerecruit them.

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