Let's Play Ball: Here Is My Plan

Even as some States begin to relax COVID-19 pandemic restrictions, many federal, state and local officials are beginning to develop plans on if, when and how their cities, states and the Country as a whole can eventually resume normal operations. These plans also include when large crowd events such as religious services, concerts and sports events can resume.

The fact that the ratings for something as mundane as the 2020 NFL Draft from the Commissioner's basement was among the highest rated TV "sports events" ever held demonstrates how important the need to get back on the field, the court, the rink or the track is in terms of healing the Nation's psyche and restoring any sense of normalcy.

While I am not a medical professional or elected official, I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express and I also graduated from the University of Miami (with honors) so I decided I would give it my best shot at solving this situation.

We will divide this effort into four sections: The stadium requirements (seating and sanitizing), the players, coaches and other team personnel requirements (testing and treatment), the fan requirements (testing and PPE) and the season schedule (several options).

STADIUM REQUIREMENTS: 

All stadium personnel tested and cleared before returning to work and once a month during the season.

Sanitize entire stadium including food service areas, bathrooms and seating areas before each game.

Hand Sanitizer stations at entry gates and throughout stadiums at all food service and bathroom areas.

Stagger seating on each row (odd/even #seats) and/or skip rows in between.

First game 20,000 fans allowed with every fourth seat occupied (other seats marked with X).

Second Game 30,000 fans allowed every third seat occupied (see above).

Third Game 40,000 fans allowed every other seat occupied (see above).

Games 4-7 a total of 60,000 fans maximum capacity at all stadiums regardless of seating capacity.

If at any time an outbreak occurs then the season would be halted or canceled.

FAN REQUIREMENTS:

Pre-attendance negative test certification within 30 days of date of first game through private medical doctors, public testing facilities already in place and/or drive thru testing sites located at stadium parking lots (multiple sites/entrances) starting 30 days prior to the season beginning.

Mandatory quick forehead temperature scan at entry.

Fans required to sanitize at entry and throughout stadiums at food service and restroom areas.

Face covering or mask and gloves required for first three games and then recommended after that.

Free college emblem masks and team colored gloves at entry at scrimmage and first three games.

Only season ticket holders may attend. Maximum of 60,000 season tickets may be sold. Season tickets would be priced differently for attending 7, 6, 5 or 4 games in 2020.

This incorporates the fact that during the first three games only 20k, 30k, and 40k fans would attend. For those fans who are younger, in good health and are more willing to take more risk they would be able to attend all seven home games, while for those older or more cautious fans they could choose to attend as few as four games giving both groups opportunities and options.

This also makes testing much easier prior to the season starting and greatly minimizes the risk to a very small sub-group of the population (60,000 max). This also makes it easy to track and trace contacts of this group both while at the stadium and afterwards while in the community.

PLAYERS AND COACHES:

Test all players and coaches prior to practice resuming and scrimmages being held. 

Test all players and coaches prior to each regular season game. 

Any coach or player testing positive to be ruled ineligible to play/coach, isolated and treated with available drug interventions.

All travel is on team only chartered flights and/or buses.

GAME SCHEDULE:

Three week Fall practice schedule in normal time frame (August). Players/coaches tested weekly.

Fall Scrimmages: First scrimmage is closed to the public, no TV. Second Scrimmage is televised but no fans. Third scrimmage is public with 10,000 fans maximum (negative test certification required, social distancing and PPE required) and televised. 

Regular Season Option A: Gradual return with six conference only games with two weeks in between games (12 week season).

Televised team scrimmages in between games that count against other teams.

Two weeks between games allows for additional testing, diagnosis and treatment when indicated.

Two teams selected by conference to play in conference championship game at neutral site.

No National Championship first year, only conference records and championships recorded.

Regular Season Option B: Total return with 12 regularly scheduled games, conference and non-conference.

No changes to regularly scheduled games with seven home games and five away games.

No change to conference or National championship games.

Regular Season Option C:  Eliminate conferences for one year and only intra-state games allowed (8 game practice season).

Eliminates long flights or travel to highly affected areas.

Miami would play all Florida schools: FSU, UF, UCF, USF, FAU, FIU, FAMU, BCC, etc. Teams may play more than once if needed.

Comments

[orange 'n green in the vein]

lol concern troll making up excuses for why getting slapped with a temp ban didn't leave a mark, with a side helping of concern trolling excuse making for being the usual moron. Can't make this sh!t up!

[86Cane]

Just messin with U Solar!

This is what wil be needed for stadiums and sports to gradually in time resume normal operations.

Terrance can celebrate!

[86Cane]

On April 26th I wrote this:

FAN REQUIREMENTS:

Pre-attendance negative test certification within 30 days of date of first game through private medical doctors, public testing facilities already in place and/or drive thru testing sites located at stadium parking lots (multiple sites/entrances) starting 30 days prior to the season beginning.

On May 6 Governor Desantis announced this on live TV from Hard Rock Stadium in Miami:

"This testing site at hard Rock Stadium in Miami has been one of the best and most productive testing sites in the State if not the Country. They have performed over 20,000 tests at this site alone. We will now be adding the seriologic tests to test for anit-bodies to the the virus to see how many have had the virus and have developed the anti-bodies. This is a very important next step to being able to move forward and continue opening up the State."

But since this falls under one of those topics that apparently "I know nothing about" you can just ignore these facts. That is all.

[solarcane]

roach, VA thanks you guys rock.
stay safe my friends

[VA Cane]

Nice solar I like it....your stuff always is great.
Hope you all are well...i an running this week trying get 4 appraisals done!!!!

[roachcane77]

Va, roach,
here is a little Rock City Band animation I did for Youtube support for my Gonzo Outthere deal.
https://youtu.be/yUQcnGZFqLw
Posted by: solarcane | May 05, 2020 at 01:31 PM

Great stuff, as usual Solar!🙌🏼

[BigWindyCane1]

Isaiah Walker in the transfer portal WTF happened? Was the best So Fla OL in SoFla last year for Norland . I wonder if he ever Ade it to campus at UF

Posted by: TJL | May 05, 2020 at 08:31 AM

Very strange😳. I wonder what the story is behind that? I wanted him at the U. To enter the transfer portal before his first season? Strange!

But he is talented. UF has recruited and developed OLs in Florida much better than us, Walker would be a nice addition

[solarcane]

Va, roach,
here is a little Rock City Band animation I did for Youtube support for my Gonzo Outthere deal.

https://youtu.be/yUQcnGZFqLw

[solarcane]

VA,

I liked her sand paper voice and attitude that is the stuff I dig around for thanks

[HerbieIbis]

Looking a little tough for us finding a qb this cycle. Either we IHOP one or it's back to the portal. We don't need to be reaching, though!

[The Herb]

That's his fault. A lot of these So. FLO. BOYZ have sum how been injected with Gator blood. Got these dam visions of sugar plums dancing in their heads or greenbacks in da mailbox.
He might try to come crawling home.

[TJL]

Isaiah Walker in the transfer portal WTF happened? Was the best So Fla OL in SoFla last year for Norland . I wonder if he ever Ade it to campus at UF

[VA Cane]

Never a Phins fan, though saw a lot of those old teams cearly on....69 or so as my aunt and uncle lived in Hollywood.....big Phins and Canes fans....thats where I got the Canes in about 70 or 71...Shula was great in Baltimore and Miami...old school....let me say it for the first time...LOL....fundamentals guy! He was great and was an even better man!!! He IS a giant...well put DTX!!!!!!

solar that is some blazing stuff.....jazzy country rock and roll all in one! reminds me of the great Alvin Lee of Ten Years After

hers one for you....gal can sing and shes tough....be a great corner....
love her shes cool!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hD53Sh-cG4

trying to get some of this home time in.....but they keep sending me work....tough assignments lotta work but hey i am good at it!!!

need do some work here but thankful for good work good lenders and good fees.....I call it blessed!
Stay safe all and prayers for the best in life for all the family i am glad to have. I have learned a lot on here about UM football....but so much more about life....you are all wonderful teachers!!!! Glad to LEARN!

VAC

[86Cane]

When the giants of your youth pass away, you definitely feel it in your bones, in your soul.

Posted by: DallasTX Cane | May 04, 2020 at 03:09 PM

There IT is right there.

[BigWindyCane1]

Nussmeir didn't wait to visit Miami, he verbed to LSU.

Posted by: HerbieIbis | May 04, 2020 at 11:12 PM

We didn’t want him anyway......just kidding ❗️ I can’t lie, I wanted him to commit. Hopefully, we get one of the other Lashlee QB targets

[HerbieIbis]

Nussmeir didn't wait to visit Miami, he verbed to LSU.

[solarcane]

VA

I had this, lost it, forgot about it, just found it again..

you will dig this

https://youtu.be/nc4NXYjPpY8

[Terrance Sullivan]

Soupster your 20 thousand theory at Games seem to be on target Miami Dolphins COO Tom Garfinkel is expecting to hold 15,000 at Gard Rock Stadium This Year For Dolphins Games I would assume that capacity at Games This Year For NFL And College Football Games will probably be between 10,000-40,000 Fans per Game! 10,000 for the 30,000 seat Stadiums and 40,000 for the 100,000 seat stadiums! Going to be interesting!

[DallasTX Cane]

I just heard about Coach Shula. RIP. Oh man... a promising day just turned to sadness. Feel like a little bit more of “Old Florida... Old Miami” has passed on also. Our days of youth are fleeting. When the giants of your youth pass away, you definitely feel it in your bones, in your soul.

[alpine]

Happy Monday Peeps

Posted by: CGNC | May 04, 2020 at 02:07 PM

canespace is your peepshow?

[CGNC]

Happy Monday Peeps

[HerbieIbis]

Big time kids in So.Flo. want to play games, we can now go to other states. Class filling up quick. Only 11 slots left. Got to hold onto Collins at DT. Lot of talent local, that a majority don't have us as a top choice
Need some top notch WR'S, as we have none yet.
We need this season to be played and show off this OH.
Kids need to see it in action.

[Old Skool]

As for Joe Robbie ... I'll reserve comment

[Old Skoo]

RIP Don Shula

[alpine]

talking about sports
. . . a favorite is improv comedy
. .. and here's robin williams & jonathan winters in 1991 on a johnny carson show . . . worth the entire 33 minutes

do not eat while watching (if you have a good sense of humor) or your keyboard & screen will be "collateral damage"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzv6EhE7Cbo&feature=emb_rel_end

[roachcane77]

It appears the Canes and Lashlee are actually recruiting athletes to run a spread offense
Posted by: BigWindyCane1 | May 03, 2020 at 11:33 PM

YAY!!!! Finally! (I believe it's the Herb who's been calling for this for years... ) The SPREEEEAD!

Looks like the NFL is very close to an announcement... hopefully the NCAA is not too far behind...

[BigWindyCane1]

I like Arroyo’s size. Looks like a good HS TE size at 6’4” and 210 lbs, to grow into an athletic spread TE in college.

It appears the Canes and Lashlee are actually recruiting athletes to run a spread offense

[HerbieIbis]

TE Eiljah Arroyo to Da U. Hey a 4 star breaks the run of 3's, although sum publications have him as a 3, no matter the kid is 6'4 with a svelte 210 LB basketball frame at present. Good pick for us.

[305 Prophit]

I know most of our CB's are not burners. Clarke is supposed to be but the dude played very little CB in high school.
Restrepo is probably quicker than fast.

[BigWindyCane1]

Who is the fastest guy on the current roster?

Posted by: Hassan | May 03, 2020 at 10:21 AM

Great question. Normally, we get the S&C coach releasing the Spring testing numbers, but we didn’t get it this season.

I don’t think our Canes have Had as much speed on the team the last few years. . I say this because people like JT4 and Deejay tested about 0.10 slower at the NFL combine than they did last spring when hand-timed by Feeley at UM. Even Al Golden had faster players.

With Lingard transferred, It appears that Mark Pope and Dee Wiggins are fastest, with Mike HARLEY and TeCory Couch close third.

My best guess among the freshmen in no particular order, Knighton, Restrepo, Clark and Smith are the fastest

[alpine]

and if you have an extra 3 1/2 minutes to kill:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=ErFN7Y7qnLg#menu

[alpine]

hmmm, one of the better articles i've read for awhile
. . . from a State of the U writer i've never seen before: Stephan C. Cheatham
enjoy:

"All or Nothing - How Manny Diaz is Shaping the Miami Hurricanes"
https://www.stateoftheu.com/2020/5/3/21244981/miami-huricanes-football-all-or-nothing-how-manny-diaz-is-shaping-the-miami-hurricanes

[Hassan]

Who is the fastest guy on the current roster?

[TonyCane]

Oh yes, Herbi. And it’s not just that the other team cheated. It’s that they were EVIL.

[roachcane77]

Lashlee
has offered a combined six quarterbacks from the Lone Star State in both the 2021 and 2022 classes:
Posted by: solarcane | May 02, 2020 at 11:48 AM

I hate to say this, because I was so WRONG about Enos!😤
But, I'm liking this Lashlee dude! 🙌🏼

[HerbieIbis]

Alan Rubenstein, says if Miami wants to stay in the top 10 in recruiting, then they need to start to get verbals from 4 and 5 star players. He mention they need to sign Jacolby Brooke's, who does not have us in his top 3 but every thing could change depending on the new offense. YA Think!

[solarcane]

Lashlee

has offered a combined six quarterbacks from the Lone Star State in both the 2021 and 2022 classes: Flower Mound Marcus four-star Garrett Nussmeier, Katy Thompkins four-star Jalen Milroe, Houston North Shore four-star Dematrius Davis, 2022 Southlake Carroll five-star Quinn Ewers, 2022 Austin Westlake four-star Cade Klubnik and 2022 Rockwall three-star Braedyn Locke.

[HerbieIbis]

What's the first thing parents want to say, if their son's team got beat in a basketball game. THEY CHEATED!

[TonyCane]

the toughest crowd here is usually Little League moms, and girls softball dads.
Posted by: solarcane | April 30, 2020 at 04:16 PM

Talk about a "Universal Truth!"
THAT statement is true just about EVERYWHERE, not just the deep South! 🤣(Stay CLEAR of those folks!)

Posted by: roachcane77 | April 30, 2020 at 04:51 PM

Basketball parents can be a bit extreme as well. I've seen numerous near fights take place as both my sons have played AAU. At one tournament in Arlington five years ago, a 17U coach threw a chair at a parent!

[TonyCane]

College football got to be played. I'll break into a cold sweat, if it isn't. Can't stand watching the pros.

Posted by: The Herb | April 26, 2020 at 10:28 PM

I've wondered about this on both the pro and NFL levels...

College:
1. How does this affect recruiting, if the season is cancelled? If in Dec 2020 there is still no word on when CFB resumes, does this start to skew recruiting in unusual ways?

2. Is the eligibility of athletes frozen due to a cancellation?

3. Does the NCAA grant scholarship cap waivers to all schools - inflating them by the number of players who would have otherwise completed their fourth year of eligibility in 2020? Presumably they have to - otherwise there will be minimal room for incoming freshmen.

Pro:
1. In 2021, how does the league adjust to what is essentially two drafts worth of rookies hitting training camps at the same time? An example is the Dolphins, who came out of the draft last month with 12 selections. They also have a high number of picks in the 2021 draft. Theoretically close to half of their players could be rookies on opening day. The play would already be sloppy after a year off, and with a massive infusion of rookies it might be more so.

2. Does the NFL begin experimenting with VR attendance versus having a rush back to stadiums?

[Old Skool]

'twas great chatting with you Solar. Keep up the good, funny, witty and insightful posts.

[Old Skool]

I know nations all over the world are competing to come up with an effective coronavirus vaccine. I pray China isn't the first. With all the anti-Chinese rhetoric flying around, it won't be pretty if they do.

[solarcane]

Proof there are Time Travelers among us

https://images.app.goo.gl/Wzwyby9ZLrvqVbMR8

[solarcane]

Heres a little something from my site to make you smile.

About 40 seconds to help you through a tough day
Give it a like if it merits it thanks

CG you may have seen this in real life more than once lol

https://youtu.be/qRNMYBnR8W0

[Herbiezibis]

After watching the 95 bowl rerun, 2 things are prevalent today, one, sorry Qb play and lousy blocking. Didn't score another point after the 13 minute mark of the third quarter. Well I should 3 things, a tired azz defense from being on the field basically the whole second half.
Didn't score a point in the next bowl game either against Zona.

By The Herbs count, we could of and should of played in 11 Natty games in about a 20 year time period.

How do u lose a game giving up 150 yes in total offense and u having double? Turn it over 5 times. As good as Testy was, he was a t.o. machine in bowl games.

[solarcane]

Skool,
Great talking to you and knowing you are well, Good to hear life is smiling at you. Thanks again for your thoughts.

[solarcane]

5 10 I think. she killed as a sophomore, this would have been a great year to have the coaches watch her. she has five offers and Clemson and SC text her a lot who knows?

[86Cane]

stay safe

Posted by: solarcane | April 30, 2020 at 02:56 PM

U too my friend.

[HerbieIbis]

Dam nice stroke. How tall is she?

[solarcane]

Herb,
Addison Blair South Caldwell/ Hickory

https://youtu.be/V1WT44efsn4

https://youtu.be/RTJnxn5oYy4

https://youtu.be/3FDDMhPEp9w

Deadly

[HerbieIbis]

Solar,
Your granddaughters ever play at Martha Rivers park or Ferguson Park?
I got u on that money deal. They think it means equal playing time and God forbid 2 players play the same position. One set of parents are sitting in one spot and the non starters in another, bitching about how much better their kid is than the kid that's starting.
Heard every excuse. I took the team I mentioned above over from another guy because he wasn't tough enough on them. The head of the organization said there were a bunch of whiners on the team. The first thing I told him, I ain't caudling nobody. The first thing I did was fire both my shortstops because neither could play the way I wanted them to. I always trained all my kids on infield and outfield. Our first warm up drill was me hitting them fly balls. Right, left, Line drives and over their head. U know putem on their horse. U played where u best helped the team.
Ain't nothing like winning them ships, no matter what age or grade. It maybe the only time u ever get to play for one.

[solarcane]

herb,
I feel for you as a coach dealing with parents.
That is a tough thing to do and keep everyone happy. I bet it was plenty hard on your family too.
I went to two of my Granddaughter's high school softball games.

My Granddaughter at the time was an all State Sophomore on the State Championship team and was second on the entire team in HRs and RBIs.

Some of the fathers of older girls that were Juniors and Seniors bitched the whole games how they were tired of the hours and money they and their girls put into the team only to bat in the last inning or not at all.

I could understand their frustration, but I also noticed their daughters were wearing their State Championship rings.

My Granddaughter will be playing on her NC travel team this year maybe. I will let you know when they play near Gastonia and you can check them out. Shes getting some looks from bigger schools now.

[The Word From The Herb]

Solar,
Coached travel baseball for 10 years, man u talk about parents and their tudes! Had to have a meeting one time with the parents and lay down what I expected as a coach. One dad said "this sounds like a dictatorship" I said no, it's my way or u can take your son and leave.
These jokers were coming to me or making comments behind my back about where their son was better suited playing or talking about other kids and when I should make pitching changes. Cutthroats.
Team started off 3-7. I told them it would take 2 or 3 tournaments to figure out where I wanted kids to play. I even booted this women and her son from the team. From that point on we went 93-23 over the next 2.5 years.
Parents can be a headache if u let them. I get they panhandle for their kids, especially paying money to play but u have to perform or it's like the NFL, not for long!

[roachcane77]

the toughest crowd here is usually Little League moms, and girls softball dads.
Posted by: solarcane | April 30, 2020 at 04:16 PM

Talk about a "Universal Truth!"
THAT statement is true just about EVERYWHERE, not just the deep South! 🤣(Stay CLEAR of those folks!)

[solarcane]

VA props dude you get it

[solarcane]

It seems the coolest laid back take me for what I am people I meet no matter where they were born are at white water raft centers, outfitter stores, beaches, kayak shops, gravel boat launches, hiking trails.

the toughest crowd here is usually Little League moms, and girls softball dads.

[solarcane]

Solar - you are spot on with your analogy - it is something that really stands out when you come from a more diverse community. The southern hospitality is really extended to VISITORS, moving there can be another story - you are an outsider, especially in the more rural areas

Posted by: CGNC | April 30, 2020 at 02:19 PM

Truer words were never spoken, thanks CG that my my entire point, the fake southern hospitality deal reeks.

My wife worked at a cabin rental place here for a couple years, the owners would talk like normal everyday people until out of state guests would check in.

Then it was that honey tongue "Oh my Lord, look at the little fella, bless his little heart", then when the guest walked out of the office the owner would say like,

"If that little bastard breaks the pool table or craps in the hot tub Cheryl you make damn sure you collect their deposit before they sneak out of here. "

You lived it, it you can vouch for it.

[VA Cane]

You guys are awesome.....this blog, all of us....could solve the countrys problems....in a room, round and round up and down.....but we KNOW how to give and take we can solve and work things out!.....and not get too personal....we get close....but not too bad!!

My mother was the smartest person I ever knew....she had confidence and compassion at the same time..she looked right at you when she spoke....clear undaunted calm cunning and serious...all at once all 5' 110 pounds of her!
She taught me long ago the 3 hardest things for people to say are:
1. I was wrong
2. I am sorry
3. I love you

if ya think on it Little Kate (pet name for my mom Katherine) is spot on.
I grew up up north in NYC NY NJ Pittsburgh, Northern VA...then moved to SW VA at 11 or so....and I was the new kid in the rural area from up north....took some crap....til they found out I could play football like hell.....then later being in the country I developed an accent....and had more than one person make fun or mimick it.....I fought over it with dudes and cussed girls out....but that was my bad. I have learned over 61 years to just take it in stride....anything.....my son likes to call me alpha cause he says nothing bothers me....and I have learned now it does not....nothing can be so awful that i have to lash out now.....took a lot of listening...mainly to my folks!!!

We have some very smart wise people in this family....and all opinions count the same!!!

I roll through life with my wife kids and grandaughter and MI Law....coaching my guys doing appraisals getting out in the sticks....rocking out....the last of the all out rockers!!!!

I have a focus on my life....and I can still be kind to others help and add the kind word.....I do not have to give or take grief......cruising like I am 15.....thats what the wife says...she says I have matured some.....LOL!!!!!

Great words here......we talk a lot more than football....and it always helps!

God bless you all....thanks for the kind words solar.....I feel ya brother....you are a great man who knows life....you all do!!!!

VAC

[alpine]

solar, you're welcome
. . . and as you know, i appreciate you too!

[alpine]

by the way, there's a nice miami herald article on malik curtis, latest commit
. . . i can't open the herald on this computer, which is where i get canespace, only on ipad . . . maybe someone else wants to post the link or the article

[solarcane]

big Al,
thank you for the kind words and having my back, I appreciate you my friend

[solarcane]

Be calm and blog on!

Posted by: 86Cane | April 30, 2020 at 01:51 PM

wad up soup.
I apologize for sounding aggressive, I could have chosen my words more carefully.

I think we always learn a little about ourselves when people criticize us.
It is when we listen to the criticism and make adjustments rather than strike back that make us a little better than we were yesterday.

You know how I actually feel about you no matter what I say when you drive me to the brink lol.

stay safe

[HerbieIbis]

Yeah, I read about the dude this morning. He's a little above average but he is better than what we got, then I'm all for it. Would rather get a player that has 2 years left, like a RS JR. come in.
Personally, I wish they would bring a big body WR but Black is headed to Texas.
It would seem from what I've read and seen, that Manny is shooting high but settling low to quickly, with some of the verbal. It looks like this class will be loaded with 3 star players.

[86Cane]

. . . what i want to say is, that your post pleasantly surprised me and i am appreciative that you pleasantly surprised me

Posted by: alpine | April 30, 2020 at 02:05 PM

Thank you Sir. I learned a long time ago that conflict is not always negative and in fact can be beneficial and produce positive and lasting results. "Listening" to the opposing points of view and repeating them takes away the "defensiveness" of trying to protect your position (or being "right") and moves you to a place that makes it comfortable (not threatening) for learning and understanding to occur and reasonable and fair outcomes to result.

It's all good in love and blogging!

[CGNC]

86 Great blog, you put a ton of work into that. Since I was not going to any games anyway LOL I am out of the mix

Solar - you are spot on with your analogy - it is something that really stands out when you come from a more diverse community. The southern hospitality is really extended to VISITORS, moving there can be another story - you are an outsider, especially in the more rural areas. I lived in Charlotte which is a large city but travel outside of that area and it was a little different, a lot of economic downturn with the closing of furniture and textiles. There is even prejudice against people who live in Charlotte as compared to the rest of the State. And LOL as long as "bless her heart" at the end of any statement you can talk trash about anyone.

My daughter got a ticket because "oh, you're from Charlotte?" in some small county somewhere.

I liked living there but like it where I am more.

[alpine]

"thank you soup"

. . . that was the quick reaction of just saying something, but that was not really what i wanted to say

. . . what i want to say is, that your post pleasantly surprised me and i am appreciative that you pleasantly surprised me

[alpine]

thank you soup

[86Cane]

Raize...I tried to log in several times earlier today and the site was down and wouldn't let me log in. It was a TypePad issue but fixed now.

[86Cane]

Solar and Alpine...this may come across as awkward but I really appreciate the comments you both made. I actually read them several times to see where I could find points of agreement and understanding. And there were several that I have considered, thought through and taken to heart.

In the end I think you guys made several points that I strongly disagree with or do not feel were accurate but you also made several valid points and may have made me a better person as a result. I appreciate you both.

Who knew that blogging could be so enlightening and therapeutic? Be calm and blog on!

[raizecane]

Soup - I am in typepad.....

[alpine]

soup to solar: "I just don't get you painting an entire people or region with such hatred. I think you may be a tad bit angry or hostile to many when the problem is a few?"

- soup, do you remember how you reacted to a couple of my very mild political posts? . . . among other things, you called me "self-righteous, self-centered, egotistical, & elitest"!

- you have never met me, but you know that i try to make my posts respectful (except a couple OGV disses, cause his troll'ness often goes over the line)
. . . so my feeling was that the hateful rant against me was basically because you've "painted an entire group of people", i guess the non-trump-worshippers, with a "hateful" brush; and now you simply saw me as "one of the others"
. . .which gave you permission to treat me disrespectfully

- was i wrong? is that not how you were feeling about me? and this particular "group"?

- remember these words of yours to solar: "I think you may be a tad bit angry or hostile to many when the problem is a few?"

. . . i'm thinkin' you might want to do a bit of self-reflection regarding those words

- for the record, i'm not dumping on you here
. . . i'm just saying we all need to be very careful whether we're throwing a stone at a glass window or at a mirror

[alpine]

soup, the two of us managed to get a 180° different feeling from reading solar's posts from (April 29, 2020 at 10:05 PM & April 29, 2020 at 11:34 PM) making it difficult for me to understand many of the statements you made to him, such as:

- "i don't get you painting an entire people/region with such hatred . . . why do you hate EVERYONE you live around"?

- "don't sit there on your computer and complain that you hate the place you live in and do nothing about it" . . . "you are NOT a tree. you can move" . . . but "if you feel moving back to FL will solve all of your transgressions you are very wrongly misled"

- a people/region hatefulness rant?! that's really not what his posts are
. . . his "rant" was truly an excellent explanation of his values and involved ZERO broad-brush painting; he definitely was clear on exactly what he despises & who he chooses to avoid

- lastly, these posts of his are VERY "solar'ish"; the values expressed are the same exact ones that he consistently shows us on CANESPACE!

- solar is so obviously solar: i imagine him living "who he is" whether in person or on-line
. . . like his name, he metaphorically shines his "light/warm rays" on all around him
. . . and that is NOT "doing nothing"; we need lots more solars in this world!!

[pb]

I grew up in Hialeah. Believe it or not, in the early 70s it was ALL Florida crackers, most of which worked for the airlines.

For several years we were the only Cubans on my block.

Without exception all those families welcomed us to the neighborhood, especially the dads. My parents were divorced, so they always made sure to include me in so many fishing trips and baseball leagues their sons were involved in,

I for one grew up happy as could be surrounded by old school Gringos who worked with their hands all day.

I imagine that's why I've gotten "I can't believe you are Cuban" hundreds of times in my life. Their ways and how they comported themselves rubbed off on me in so many ways.

Just my two cents on the topic.

[solarcane]

4. I LOVE THE PLACE I LIVE IN! I have no hatred for anyone I live around. Why do you hate EVERYONE you live around?

Posted by: 58 Straight | April 29, 2020 at 11:55 PM
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This is just a little advice from a real friend

Dont make a list and rattle it off like you are an authority on a subject or conversation you feel the need to jump into.
You come off as arrogant when you list your opinions, just type them like you are talking to someone face to face unless you actually do say number one. blah blah blah number two. in informal conversations.

Do you ever really comprehend what you are reading before you jump on your white horse and explain how you know everything about a subject?
Why always rush in to give your opinion on subjects you know next to nothing about?
Its OK to not be the authority. Just let it slide my friend.

It just makes you look like you feel like you need to preach, when you could actually be 180 off the mark
Sometimes you make good points and other times you keep shooting when you should pass the ball.

Ok that was you and me talking as friends and no harm no foul

What real racism do you see on a daily basis in Orlando real estate? lol

I appreciate you explaining what I should do and how I should do it but actually I don't HATE everyone I HATE prejudice and racism,

Using the misguided logic you use in every argument you try to start with people on here think about this smarty pants:

you love everyone you say... so obviously when other people are treated horribly it doesn't bother you because man you just have that love going on, or you choose to pretend everyone you have ever met has charm and manners remember?

See what I am saying? You DONT love everybody Ive seen you get pissed at bullies. That doesn't wash you are not Jesus Christ... remember?

I love you dude but I really can make my own decisions and sleep well at night.
peace

.

[solarcane]

qbs

QUARTERBACK
▪ Committed: None.

▪ Likely to add: One. Manny Diaz wants to add a quarterback during every recruiting cycle. We addressed quarterbacks in this Tuesday piece.

▪ Targets: The Hurricanes have offered several, including Texas-based Garrett Nussmeier, California-based Miller Moss, Georgia-based Aaron McLaughlin, Jalen Milroe (a Texas commit), among others.

[solarcane]

recruiting O line

OFFENSIVE LINE
▪ Committed: Three: three-star Miami Columbus center Ryan Rodriguez, four-star Miami Central offensive lineman Laurence Seymore and three-star Parkland Stoneman Douglas offensive lineman Michael McLaughlin.

▪ Likely to add: Two.

▪ Targets: UM is off to a very good start, having secured a quality tackle prospect in Seymore, a solid guard prospect in McLaughlin and the state’s best center prospect in Rodriguez.

Now UM will add one or two more tackles or guards from a group including California-based three-star Anthony Rosas (UM is in his top eight), Texas-based tackle Savion Byrd (UM would love to land him and he says he’s serious about UM but has nearly 30 offers), Ocala three-star tackle Caleb Johnson, IMG Academy tackle JC Latham, California-based three-star guard Ross Maseuli and Georgia-based guard Terrence Ferguson.

Five-star Virginia based tackle Tristan Leigh remains the ultimate prize, but Miami is facing an uphill climb there.

[solarcane]

What Herbsteet is hearing about the season from the big guns

▪ ESPN’s Kirk Herbstreit, speaking last week on the future of the college football season, said: “I’ve talked to actual decision makers in the college game, and I think what they’ve done is built three to four contingency plans based on what happens with this virus and what Dr. [Anthony] Fauci and others recommend.

“If everything is OK, status quo, show up on campus in July, two-a-days, regular season, here we go. That’s the first contingency. And then they go a all the way back to the second, third, fourth contingency, all the way to a willingness to start in late February or March and playing March, April and May and post season in June, which would be a last ditch effort which proves how willing the administrators are with the NCAA and ADs and presidents to have a college football season. They’ll do everything they can if it comes to that extreme to be able to potentially have a 2020 season.

“A lot of this is still being a feeling out process and we’re going to wait to see what the data shows. I’ll turn the TV on and I’m sure something new has happened as far as how to get a test for this and what makes the most sense in taking care of the athletes and don’t just send them back because we have to make our bottom line. Next time someone gets it and dies - can you imagine what happens if they hurry back and a player or coach or referee gets this virus and gets sick and dies? That’s something that they have to think about and they want to obviously avoid.”

Of a potential spring season, Herbstreit said: “Can you imagine that? How bizarre would that be? But it goes to show you how far we are willing to go to get our football. I think it would be weird to watch spring football. Like XFL - as a fan, a consumer, I have a really hard time getting into spring football. I like that it goes away in early February after the Super Bowl and love when it comes back in July for NFL training camps. But this is desperate measures. We’re all in uncharted waters, a world we’re trying to adjust to every day, being quarantined. If it means pushing it back to starting in December, January, February or March, then that’s what has to happen.

“What’ll be really interesting in the college game is if they go that far back, [with top prospects such as Clemson quarterback] Trevor Lawrence, do they play the season in the spring or opt to basically sit out because of their obvious status of being drafted? I have no idea about any of that, but it does make you wonder what some players at that level would do.”

[solarcane]

news for Herb

(One quick on-field UM note: Though UM at one point was saving its final scholarship for Willie Moise, I would expect UM to reach out to Houston offensive lineman Jarrid Williams, who announced plans Wednesday to look elsewhere as a grad transfer. He was a two-year starter at right tackle for the Cougars -- playing with new UM quarterback D’Eriq King -- and was second-team preseason all-AAC last year before an injury ended his season after four games.)

[solarcane]

Canes Football Classics

NBC sports

9:30 p.m. Thursday: the 1995 UM-Nebraska Orange Bowl, with Tom Hammond and Cris Collinsworth on the call and Bob Costas hosting.

11:59 p.m. Thursday: the 1988 Miami-Oklahoma Orange Bowl, with Don Criqui and Bob Trumpy on the call and fresh interviews inserted with former Hurricanes Steve Walsh and Bernard Clark.

9:30 p.m. Friday: the 1987 Miami-Penn State Fiesta Bowl, with Charlie Jones and Bob Griese on the call, and Jimmy Cefalo reporting.

12:30 a.m. Saturday: the 1984 Nebraska-UM Orange Bowl (UM’s first national title), with Criqui, John Brodie and Bill Macatee on the call.

[58 Straight]

Solar...I get your anger and your frustration.

1. I just don't get you painting an entire people or region with such hatred. I think you may be a tad bit angry or hostile to many when the problem is a few?

2. What % of the peple you live around are total losers and haters and what % are good people?

3. If you think 80% are bad you should move the hell away and do it tomorrow. Don't sit there on your computer and complain that you hate the place you live in and do nothing about it.

4. I LOVE THE PLACE I LIVE IN! I have no hatred for anyone I live around. Why do you hate EVERYONE you live around?

5. FINALLY You are NOT a tree. You can move.

6. And let me tell you something if you feel moving back to FLL will solve all of you transgressions you are very wrongly mislead.

[solarcane]

soup

You have never experienced deep south racism.
I never had until I moved to the deep south

It is a sneaky back hand remark, superior attitude, suspicious, fear of losing power, sickness, it makes you uncomfortable to be around.

We were both raised to see the good in people.

"The majority of Southerners I know demonstrate sweet Southern charm, polite manners like yes ma'am and no sir, respectful behaviors like thank you and you're welcome or opening doors for your elders."

Yea thats exactly how I felt when I lived in Ft Lauderdale and perceived all southern people to be a mix of The Marshall Tucker Band and Andy Griffith.
There are plenty of good southern people, there are plenty of good people from anywhere.
I am not worried about changing them or pointing out their weaknesses.

When I see people hating or suppressing other people because they look different, speak different, or were born somewhere else I will always point out bigots and prejudiced people.

I already tried to explain fake southern hospitality.
Sure a lot of folks are sincere down here, but its not because they are southern, its because they were brought up well in the south. They would be good people in Boston or New York city.
I am sure there is New York hospitality but it isn't regarded as folklore

VA Cane is one of my dearest friends on here, he is a "southern gentleman."
If VA was born in Utah he would still be a gentleman. It isnt where you were born, it IS how you were raised.

You are wise on a lot of subjects you have experience with soup. I have gotten some good advice on subjects you are knowledgeable about.

I don't think you have the 24/7 16 year life experience I have to really understand the day to day interaction that really happens in small town southern America
I can see situations here as an outsider not a relative, I can see both sides of things being discussed, I see the logic and the preconceived side of a lot of stuff that goes down.

The nature, terrain, and fresh air are impossible to top.
I have kayaked and fished with a lot of great folks here.
Unfortunately I have also done the same with bible thumping, meth selling, wife beating hypocrites. But not after I saw through them.

I think a person born and raised in a small southern town would find a lot to bitch about the people in Ft Lauderdale if he moved there also.

Ok I`m done taking up space on the space

[BigWindyCane1]

On the CBS 2021 Mock Draft Big Board, Roche is at number 5, Rousseau at 7, and Jordan at 52.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2021-nfl-draft-trevor-lawrence-justin-fields-atop-preseason-top-100-big-board-receivers-littered-throughout/

[BigWindyCane1]

Walterfootball and CBSSports.com are currently projecting Gregory Rousseau as a Top 10 draft choice in 2021.

Walterfootball is also projecting Brevin Jordan as a first rounder next year.

Posted by: TonyCane | April 28, 2020 at 08:36 PM

Good news. Hopefully, this is the case in April 2021. Their performance on the field this season will determine this

[86Cane]

Thanks for clarifying. I understand better now.

You were talking about the ugly underside of racism or hatred. Not sure how prevalent that is but not going to question whether or not a small percentage of the population give the rest of "The South" a bad name.

The majority of Southerners I know demonstrate sweet Southern charm, polite manners like yes ma'am and no sir, respectful behaviors like thank you and you're welcome or opening doors for your elders.

I would also note the fact that not ALL Grand Dads or the way they did things were bad. Mine was a loving man from Texas who treated all people with respect and dignity. He played the banjo and harmonica and loved his family and his fellow man the same way.

My Dad was the same and a Catholic Christian man. He always told all of us "Bring all your friends into our home, they are ALL welcome. If they are hungry we will feed them" and we didn't have much to start with!

Just don't want to generalize to the extent that you paint with a broad brush an entire culture or region. I get that there are bad actors in every group, but I do not know that to be the majority of any group of people?

[solarcane]

soup,
Ill try and give you a few examples of growing up in Ft Lauderdale for 50 years compared to living in a southern rural farming district.

I worked with a man named Jimmy Lee for about ten years,we became great friends.
We worked shoulder to shoulder ate lunch on the same tailgate every day.
He asked me to be his best man at his wedding,

When my wife and I went to the church my wife looked at me and said you know you and Jimmy have worked together for years and I never knew Jimmy Lee was a black man until today,

I told her it never occurred to me to mention what color
Jimmy was, he was just a guy that I could count on.
She told me of all my qualities, my color blindness was one of the things that made her most proud.

White County Georgia 2004.
Stuff I learned right off the bat.
The "colored people" in the county live over there in Bean Creek in colored town.

Theres that Catholic Church over on Hulsey road where they let the illegals sit in the same pew with white kids.

You can ride through Elijah and have a Klan member hand you a brochure on a street corner just like you see Shriners collect for children in Miami.

Wearing a Miami Hurricane hat in the family owned hardware store gets you that favorite you ain't from around here are you question.
Only Floridiots, and Floriturds wear Canes gear dude.

Bless his heart has duel meanings
Local born it means Bless His Heart
Otherwise it means the New York ass doesn't know what he is doing ,the Floridiot is trying to take over the state.

This just a tiny sample from the prejudice you deal with everyday.

Ill get into those damn Jews.
How my Grand daddy did it.
How Obama gave the country away in another post for another day.

You grew up in a multi race city and moved to a diverse population area soup. You were raised just like me to see people for their heart, not the color of their skin or the place their parents were born.

You know me very well and you know I don't tolerate racists or bullies.
I have met some folks born and raised in Georgia that are some of the finest peopleI know, but I have met people here that make me uncomfortable with the hate and suspicion they carry.
Thanks for letting me vent.

[86Cane]

Fake southern hospitality, good ole boy syndrome, how my granddaddy did it, and all the other day to day dopey stuff is ponderous.

Posted by: solarcane | April 29, 2020 at 09:00 PM

Please explain more so we can understand.

On the surface it just seems extremely cynical?

[solarcane]

Herb
I know how you feel believe me
I love the mountains, lakes, waterfalls, etc.
Fake southern hospitality, good ole boy syndrome, how my granddaddy did it, and all the other day to day dopey stuff is ponderous.

[HerbieIbis]

Governor of NC, says continue to stay at home. Schools already done for the year, our County Commissioners voted to let restaraunts and other businesses go back to work if they want. U can't make this stuff up. Only in the redneck capital of North Carolina, Gastonia, could this happen!

[solarcane]

damn; nice mic drop!

Posted by: alpine | April 29, 2020 at 11:33 AM

Thanks Big Al

[solarcane]

So what you are saying is that God is a Republican?

At least he's not a Gators fan!

Posted by: 58 Straight | April 29, 2020 at 01:06 PM
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No politics no religion is the only way to go on a close knit sports oriented blog jmo

So my bff manages to use both in the same sentence
Haha

Posted by: solarcane | April 29, 2020 at 09:23

God and Republican in the same sentence that's something you don't see every day huh?

Just watched the Florida game it looks like we threw that game.
Having the lead in the 4th qtr and 4 or 5 gimmie chances and still choke Williams and Enos were poison.

[Old Skool]

Oh you mean N'Kosi Perry as the spokesperson for Bob's House of Porn?

[58 Straight]

NCAA outlines plan to let athletes benefit from endorsements beginning 2022

https://tinyurl.com/y9mwxspc

Posted by: Old Skool | April 29, 2020 at 11:21 AM

What could go wrong?

[58 Straight]

Alpine that stat is crazy. Just goes to show we have had some talent except at the one key position: QB. Doesn't say much for our coaching does it?

[58 Straight]

No politics no religion is the only way to go on a close knit sports oriented blog jmo

Posted by: solarcane | April 29, 2020 at 09:23 AM

So what you are saying is that God is a Republican?

At least he's not a Gators fan!

[alpine]

you all saw this?
the 9 schools that have had at least 25 drafted since 2016; canes somehow tied for 7th place:

SportSource Analytics
@SportSourceA
The nine #CFB FBS teams with 25+ players taken over the last five #NFLDraft
1️⃣ #Bama - 48
2️⃣ #OhioState - 45
3️⃣ #LSU - 37
4️⃣ #Gators - 32
5️⃣ #Clemson - 31
6️⃣ #Michigan - 31
7️⃣ #Canes - 26
8️⃣ #UGA - 26
9️⃣ #NotreDame - 25

[alpine]

Posted by: solarcane | April 29, 2020 at 09:23 AM

damn; nice mic drop!

[Old Skool]

NCAA outlines plan to let athletes benefit from endorsements beginning 2022

https://tinyurl.com/y9mwxspc

[pb]

Posted by: solarcane | April 29, 2020 at 09:23 AM

💯 💯 💯

[solarcane]

Thanks for the props guys, you make my day on here.

I have no dog in the soup alpine deal, you both know I respect everything you post if I agree with it or not.
I like your humor as much or more than your sports knowledge.

When Kennedy was president his accent was so thick they made comedy albums about it while he was in office,he loved it.

When Ford was in office he had the unfortunate luck to fall down in public. Saturday Night Live would do skits about it all the time.
He and Chevy Chase became friends as a result.

George W had the knack to say WTF? things almost daily, he still makes fun of himself and laughs about it today. Mrs. Obama has said he is a warm hearted man that truly loves his country and they are very close.

Trump has a tendency to blurt out his thoughts in public, rather than measure his words before he speaks.
This makes for sure fire late night TV.
The difference between Trump and those other Presidents is Trump lashes out and calls names at people that make fun of him, he can not laugh at himself. This just magnifies the incident.

The people that backed the other presidents never took the humour as personal insults on themselves, we were Americans before we were red or blue.

Someday the country will heal medically and hopefully politically and just maybe we can poke fun at the head man without our own friends taking it personally.
BUT
No politics no religion is the only way to go on a close knit sports oriented blog jmo

[Harry Miller]

VA cane thanks. Oden has really improved. He now weighs 6 lb 4 oz, no more CPAC over his nose. Eyes open and look like he weighs more, arms and legs filing out moving around a lot. He is going to make it. Thanks for all the prayers.

Thought of you today when my friend sent me a video. Google Toby keith don't let the old man in
He asked Clent Eastwood how he can make a movie at his age of 88. He said I don't let the old man in. This is for us older Canes fans.I have something in commonn with Clent because I have never let the old man in either. Comming up on 78 and will never let him in. I don't think you Tom and others old guys on her will either. It is worth listing to him tell the story and then sing Don't don't let the old man in.
God bless all of you