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April 21, 2020

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VA Cane

I think when football starts up we will put together a little donation drive to give back a couple bucks each for having Canespace as a part of our day, I think everyone would agree to that.

Amen brother I am all in....we are very blessed to have Mr and Mrs 86 tolerate us......best blog best college team ever best family....we are great...but we must always remember God is great every day....he is my cure my faith...and he brought us all together!!!

alpine

herb: dankeschön! fingers crossed that you/we get your wish (i like your earthy writing style, by the way)

alpine

solar: GA will be shutting back down in 3, 2, 1, ...

"President Donald Trump said Wednesday he 'strongly disagrees' with Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp’s decision to allow businesses to reopen at the end of the week, a day after he praised him at the White House briefing".

VA Cane

I am kinda a older man now at 61...heard my son tell my daughters fiance after my take on football tonight....see where I get it? why I have to win? why I compete?....right there my Dad..as a player and coach..he HATES to lose........nice feeling...shared this BLIP with them...cause its what WE our Family is ALL ABOUT..WE DO NOT LOSE...well we have had a hard 15 years or so...BUT we WIN! As Canes...as Americans...we WIN!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG_f1GzmwHo

This is US...our Family....WE WIN against all odds...including a VIRUS!!!

I LOVE THIS....ALWAYS!!!

pb

Data is indicating that millions more Americans have been exposed to this thing than previously thought, without consequence.

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/494034-the-data-are-in-stop-the-panic-and-end-the-total-isolation

VA Cane

That man put it all on the line...he refused to accept failure...we follow..we as Canes...we do not FAIL!
EVER!
Bless you all love you all!
VAC

solarcane

And then after you read the article you get the we are here to sell papers to the alternate realty sector we don't believe this crap either.


BY DR. SCOTT W. ATLAS, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR53,785

The views expressed by contributors are their own and not the view of The Hill

solarcane

Big Al
my neighbor is 72 he was born and raised in Georgia a die hard good ole boy
I asked him what he thought about Governor Kemps decision to open the state while 90 percent of the Pastors are not opening their church's this week,

He asked me if I knew what the term buyers remorse meant,where the buyer is too embarrassed to admit he has been duped?

I told him yeah I have seen a whole lot of that lately.

pb

Posted by: solarcane | April 23, 2020 at 07:32 AM

Solar my friend, the data rolling in is becoming irrefutable. I know for a fact Baptist Hospital here in Miami is going to announce a random 1000 person test of adults with no symptoms is going to come back with a 6% positive rate.

Extrapolate that over nearly 3 million people here in Dade County, as well asthe studies done by Stanford and USC nd it's becoming very apparent that the mortality rate on this thing is going to be the same or slightly higher than the regular flu.

Obviously that rate is varying a ton based on age and underlying health factors. Basically if you are old, immune compromised or God forbid both, this virus is particularly nasty. Those people need to stay isolated as much as possible for now. But, if a person is young and healthy, it's time to make calculated but necessary changes to open up our society again..

Honest question, if there was a news camera or reporter documenting how horribly people with the regular flue die, don't you think the hysteria would be equally as high as it is now? The big difference is none of us ever see that scenario.

pb

P.S.This is the resume of the doctor who wrote the opinion piece for The Hill. I'd value his opinion over Dr Gupta or any of the talking heads on TV today, regardless of what network they work for. Writing him off so flippantly isn't like you:

Scott W. Atlas, MD, is the David and Joan Traitel Senior Fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution and a member of Hoover Institution’s Working Group on Health Care Policy. He investigates the impact of government and the private sector on access, quality, pricing, and innovation in health care, and he is a frequent policy adviser to government leaders in those areas. Dr. Atlas’s most recent books include "Restoring Quality Health Care: A Six Point Plan for Comprehensive Reform at Lower Cost" (Hoover Institution Press, 2016) and "In Excellent Health: Setting the Record Straight on America’s Health Care System" (Hoover Institution Press, 2011). Dr. Atlas has been interviewed by or has published in a variety of media, including BBC Radio, the PBS NewsHour, the Wall Street Journal, Forbes Magazine, CNN, USA Today, Fox News, London’s Financial Times, Brazil’s Correio Braziliense, Italy’s Corriere della Sera, and Argentina’s Diario La Nacion. Dr. Atlas also advises entrepreneurs and companies in the life sciences, medical technology, and health information technology sectors.

Dr. Atlas is also the editor of the leading textbook in the field, Magnetic Resonance Imaging of the Brain and Spine, being published in its fifth edition and previously translated from English into Mandarin, Spanish, and Portuguese. He has been an editor, an associate editor, and a member of the editorial and scientific boards of many journals as well as national and international scientific societies during the past three decades and has written more than 120 scientific publications in leading journals. As professor and chief of neuroradiology at Stanford University Medical Center from 1998 until 2012 and during his prior academic positions, Dr. Atlas trained more than one hundred neuroradiology fellows, many of whom are now leaders in the field throughout the world.

Dr. Atlas received a BS degree in biology from the University of Illinois in Urbana-Champaign and an MD degree from the University of Chicago School of Medicine

86Cane

"President Donald Trump said Wednesday he 'strongly disagrees' with Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp’s decision to allow businesses to reopen at the end of the week, a day after he praised him at the White House briefing".

Posted by: alpine | April 23, 2020 at 03:02 AM

He gave the Governor an "out" which the Governor should probably take and delay one more week until May 1. Governor can say "I wanted to open but on the advice of the Federal government and national health experts I have decided to delay one more week to error on the side of caution."

But at the same time one Governor and/or State Legislature has to be first to re-open so at some point this is going to happen and be the test case for all the other States on what they got right or wrong. Whatever Governor or State decides to open FIRST is going to draw criticism but it has to be done.

But this is just eventually going to happen over and over again in all 50 states so we need to find out what steps to take, when, why and how. Someone has to go first, that's just the way it works. Everything has risk as does this.

pb

But this is just eventually going to happen over and over again in all 50 states so we need to find out what steps to take, when, why and how. Someone has to go first, that's just the way it works. Everything has risk as does this.

Posted by: 86Cane | April 23, 2020 at 09:47 AM

There it is right there.

86Cane

I am working on two blogs right now. One on the good old days and one on how to RE-OPEN college football games at stadiums with fans. Good old days first then the hard questions will be asked and the easy answers will come next.

Terrance M Sullivan

Soupster Looking forward to your next 2 Blogs! as an aside I think we will have a Regular 12 Game Season this Fall Starting on either October 1st, 8th, or 15th. I think the Conference Title Games start on anywhere from January 2nd,9th, 16th. Bowl Games Start 2 Weeks after Conference Title Games, and Playoffs and other Huge Bowl Games start 2 weeks after Bowl Season Start and National Title Game 9 Days After Semifinals so sometime in February probably around Valentines Weekend.

86Cane

TSully...I am less focused on dates than I am the season being played, the # and types of games to be played and most importantly THE PROCESS that we need to put in place to get back to the NEW normal.

INHO it is totally doable with the proper planning (plenty of time for that) and under the right set of prudent steps and modified conditions. I will unveil my master plan on the Sunday or Monday.

In the mean time I would suggest that someone (read SolarCane) write song lyrics based on the Jim Croce song "American Pie" (The Day The Music Died) and flip it to "The Day The Sports World Died" and copyright it FIRST and then post it here.

Or maybe this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8r-tXRLazs

BIG MONEY.

86Cane

For a quick LOL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Zg2S2-heY

Terrance M Sullivan

Sounds Like A Plan Soupster!

solarcane

Good back and forth on here today.

It's funny how over the years you can
almost type someone elses reply to what you put up.

Life experiences, geographical roots, family lessons, personal like or dislike for a political or religious group and if a person graduated from FSU or Florida all play a part in how we digest facts and non facts.
Peace

Terrance M Sullivan

Big Facts Solar!

solarcane

Posted by: 86Cane | April 23, 2020 at 01:25 PM

Funny as neck and all true too

Thanks

solarcane

^^ heck phone has a mind of its own

58 Straight

Funny as heck and all true too

Posted by: solarcane | April 23, 2020 at 02:44 PM

So true and his delivery and timing are friggin perfect. Knows when to rip and when to pause.

#ComedyIsAnArt

solarcane

Wad GT up sully
How is life?

solarcane

My phone has developed its own vocabulary sorry for all the crazy added words

alpine

But at the same time one Governor and/or State Legislature has to be first to re-open so at some point this is going to happen and be the test case for all the other States on what they got right or wrong. Whatever Governor or State decides to open FIRST is going to draw criticism but it has to be done.

But this is just eventually going to happen over and over again in all 50 states so we need to find out what steps to take, when, why and how. Someone has to go first, that's just the way it works. Everything has risk as does this.

Posted by: 86Cane | April 23, 2020 at 09:47 AM

- ummm, you are aware "test cases" are happening in a number of places outside the usa from which one can learn from?

- this will get you criticism: opening up everything while the number of
cases in your state is still rising (see GA)

- most of this stuff isn't rocket science
- wait for number of cases to begin going down
- make sure medical services are not having difficulty and that they have enough to respond, should the number of cases go up again
- do not begin with opening up things like schools or football games or tattoo parlors . . . begin with small businesses and move on to larger businesses if that works
- wear masks to stores; keep distance; avoid unnecessary trips; at places like banks, put up plastic glass; avoid large gatherings; etc.
- if there's a renewed outbreak somewhere, that area has to be shut back down and sophisticated detective work needs to begin immediately

- and good luck with the more difficult things to regulate:
. . . like visiting with/saying goodbye to, covid patients who are dying

alpine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Zg2S2-heY

Posted by: 86Cane | April 23, 2020 at 01:25 PM

that wasn't so short, but i enjoyed the whole thing; haha!

solarcane

I remember when wearing a mask and gloves going into a Lauderhill 7/11 was a free ambulance ride courtesy of the BSO

solarcane

Big Al,

the haha at the end of you comment was gold

I know you know I know

solarcane

that wasn't so short, but i enjoyed the whole thing; haha!

Posted by: alpine | April 23, 2020 at 03:42 PM

thats

alpine

thank you solar!

alpine

- VA, you mentioning the 61 yrs. old . . . one of a number of us in the 60's or + range . . . and i mention this cause of that autumn-of-life feeling stirring in me this spring

- i finished my toilet-lit this morning (a book that took me the better part of a couple months to get thru, while warming up that cold seat in the bathroom)
. . . this book is written by a city-gal, who gave it all up to go be a ranch-hand in wyoming (years, not weeks); writing about the good & the bad and the survival part of 30° below winters

. . . after discussing various autumnal "happenings" there, like the look of a corn field, whose corn has been harvested, she says, on the next to last page:
"Autumn teaches us that fruition is also death; that ripeness is a form of decay".
a while later she follows with a wonderful line: "Leaves are verbs that conjugate the seasons".

i'm feeling this autumnish time of life; beauty, melancholy, sometimes deep sadness, winds of change, . . .
how's the autumn treating you all?

guess i'm not lookin' for answers 'cause i'm heading to bed, hoping a 2nd helping of sand in the eyes will help me fall asleep this time, (too antsy my first attempt; too much "wokeness", which took away my usual "pleasure in the horizontal") . . . but from which you get some late nite old'ish man thought-wanderings

now go back to the build-up to the nfl draft
. . . i'm hoping the fins do good things and i'll be pleasantly surprised when i wake

solarcane

A couple animator friends and I put some Covid19 clips together to support the information cause

Here is the little clip I just finished hope you watch it like it and share it thanks family

https://youtu.be/Zub5zeBS8FA

86Cane

1. ummm, you are aware "test cases" are happening in a number of places outside the usa from which one can learn from?

2. this will get you criticism: opening up everything while the number of
cases in your state is still rising (see GA)

Posted by: alpine | April 23, 2020 at 03:41 PM

1. Yes, I am aware of that and we need one INSIDE the USA to compare and contrast when, why, how and where it is done. I could say a LOT more but I am going to show significant restraint in not doing so. I am sure you can respect that.

2. Which I agree with you 100% and indicated in my previous commnent when I said that Trump gave Kemp an easy "out" and he should take it and redirect the reason why to the Federal level to avoid the criticism and blame that is sure to come if he opens it up AND if he doesn't.

Either way now he is walking a tightrope and needs to be very careful and take the safe exit door provided to him.

If not it will either work out and he can say "I told U so" and look bold and smart or it will fail miserably and he will look reckless and dumb. One result gets him re-elected and the other one does not get him re-elected.

That is the consequence of decisions of this magnitude and future elections. In the end they all work themselves out through natural causes.

86Cane

i'm feeling this autumnish time of life; beauty, melancholy, sometimes deep sadness, winds of change, . . .how's the autumn treating you all?

Posted by: alpine | April 23, 2020 at 06:12 PM

Now that IS deep. #RESPECT for sharing.

I have only recently started to feel this way maybe in the last year or two or so and way before the current COVID-19 situation.

If you are referring to that time later in life where your perspective changes, your daily expectations diminish slightly, your productivity wanes and your goals become less important and you wonder if your best days are behind and not in front of you, then yes maybe I am there too?

Maybe I said too much...another good song BTW.

solarcane

Posted by: 86Cane | April 23, 2020 at 07:49 PM

good reflection

You and big Al sounded like the all the worlds a stage monologue by that Bill S. guy.

VA Cane

stay safe guys please don`t let some government guy that wants to get reelected convince you everything is beautiful and getting better by the minute.


LOL solar....I NEVER listen to govt guys...either side...all lies!!

Al nice take from you....I think we all go there as we age...at 61 I have done most of what I wanted to do...my HS and college football career seems so long ago.....It was my passion and still is...I guess thats why one coachs going on 42 years...it drives me. Appraising land homes condos rentals repos townhouses commercial places apartments....I love my work...I can do it until I die...never be told I am too old....I enjoy seeing my finished reports....it makes you realize you have a special talent something you really can call yourself an expert in.....Record collecting is my other passion....many many vinyls singles EPS box sets color vinyl 10"...collect it all....I am picky not much on new stuff...but some I keep an open ear and mind...Sometimes I wonder like you and Soup are saying....its true we decay and morph....but I have not let go yet....coaching football, records appraising...my wife kids and grandaughter are my focus.....and we never know when its our number called....so I make myself live all out for right now...and keep enjoying it!!!

Great food for thought my friend!!!

CGNC

Anyone have thoughts on dingleberries?

Posted by: pb | April 22, 2020 at 09:48 AM

"I'm Your Dingleberry"...iconic line by Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday In Tombstone (actually it was huckleberry by what the heck)

CGNC

Alpine, the fins drafted bad hip Tua. 5th overall. Sigh

CGNC

check the news some health officials are now predicting a stronger second wave in the fall,I wonder if we will see football in awhile?

Posted by: solarcane | April 21, 2020 at 06:12 PM
Solar I don't know. Kind of like the meteorologists predicting the hurricane seasons down here. No one knows

VA Cane

Heres one Alpi....

"There comes a time when you realize that you are closer to the end than to the beginning; you wonder whether it was all worthwhile; whether your being there at any time made any difference at all"

Colonel Nicholson, Bridge on The River Kwai

One of my professors had it on his office door...I really liked him as a teacher....it is paraphrased but it makes so much more sense at 61 than 18.....

He had another below it as well....

"Don't worry, ain't nothing gonna turn out right anyway!"

Hank Williams Sr.

I guess I float between the two fairly regularly....LOL

Stay safe all best to each of you!
VAC

VA Cane

LOL CGNCPa....I'll take the huckleberry!!!!!!

CGNC

VA glad you enjoyed that :)

pb

NYC with a staggering 20% infection rate.

That whole city was rotten with this plague.

Makes the crazy death total more explainable.

pb

Posted by: CGNC | April 23, 2020 at 09:32 PM

That made me lol. Great movie!

TonyCane

pb
NYC with a staggering 20% infection rate.

That whole city was rotten with this plague.

Makes the crazy death total more explainable.

Posted by: pb | April 23, 2020 at 09:48 PM

A few initial thoughts:

1) New York residents are on top of each other, so to speak. Subways and mass transit serve to emphasize the spread of a infectious disease

2) If the true infection rate is 20%, it means the actual death rate is far, far lower

86Cane

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