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May 16, 2020

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IraqiCane

First! And so much TRUTH in that article!!!

IraqiCane

My top ten Canes in no discernible order, and I've included some coaches...
1. Bennie Blades
2. Steve Walsh
3. Bernie Kosar
4. Bennie Blades
5. Jim Kelly
6. Gino Torretta
7. Reggie Wayne
8. Warren Sapp
9. Ken Dorsey
10. Sean Taylor
11. Ed Reed
12. Jimmy Johnson
13. Ray Lewis
14. Michael Irvin
15. Howard Schnellenberger
16. Ted Hendricks
17. Butch Davis
18. Vince Wilfork
19. Russell Maryland
20. Vinny Testaverde
21. Jerome Brown
22. Melvin Bratton

TonyCane

My own Top 25 from the time I have been a fan:

25. Stephen McGuire
24. Tremain Mack
23. Greg Olsen
22. Gino Torretta
21. Ottis Anderson
20. Duke Johnson
19. Steve Walsh
18. Kevin Patrick
17. Lamar Thomas
16. Dan Morgan
15. Duane Starks
14. Jeremy Shockey
13. Willis McGahee
12. Bernie Kosar
11. Clinton Portis
10. Brian Blades
09. Edgerrin James
08. Russel Maryland
07. Jerome Brown
06. Ray Lewis
05. Rusty Medaris
04. Vinny Testaverde
03. Ed Reed
02. Sean Taylor
01. Ken Dorsey

TonyCane

Crud, forgot Michael Irvin. He goes in between Sean Taylor and Ken Dorsey.

HerbieIbis

Yeah, I started to say u forgot the best qb, in Walsh.
To many great players, to list a 25, so the Herb will just do a top 10.
1. Sean Taylor
2. Ray Lewis
3. Ed Reed
4. Jerome Brown
5. Warren Sapp
6. Clint Portis
7. Steve Walsh
8. Bryant McKinnie
9. Ted Hendrix
10. Mike Irvin/Dan Morgan
Ok that's 11

HerbieIbis

Tua's little bro is off to Mary Land.

pb

1) Bernie Kosar
2) Ed Reed
3) Cortez Kennedy
4) Jerome Brown
5) Sean Taylor
6) Steve Walsh
7) Benny Blades
8)Michael Irvin
9) Warren Sapp
10) Jim Kelly
10)

TonyCane

Revised list:

My own Top 25 from the time I have been a fan:

25. Stephen McGuire
24. Tremain Mack
23. Greg Olsen
22. Gino Torretta
21. Duke Johnson
20. Steve Walsh
19. Kevin Patrick
18. Lamar Thomas
17. Dan Morgan
16. Duane Starks
15. Jeremy Shockey
14. Willis McGahee
13. Bernie Kosar
12. Clinton Portis
11. Brian Blades
10. Edgerrin James
09. Russel Maryland
08. Jerome Brown
07. Ray Lewis
06. Rusty Medaris
05. Vinny Testaverde
04. Ed Reed
03. Sean Taylor
02. Michael Irvin
01. Ken Dorsey

TonyCane

Honestly, I'd have to rate Ken Dorsey the top one based on how key of a role he played to Hurricanes football from the end of the 1999 season through 2002.

IraqiCane

So i'm watching the 1992 FSU game and Michael Barrow killed Eric Vanover, that was like the 3rd time they tried that slant pattern. And Barrow was all like "Not today Satan" and sent Vanover back to HELL!!!

HerbieIbis

Walsh lost one game in 2 years and that was a BS call against the Irish, although I think he threw 3 or 4 picks that game. Dude had ice water in dem veins.

86Cane

And Barrow was all like "Not today Satan" and sent Vanover back to HELL!!!

Posted by: IraqiCane | May 16, 2020 at 02:58 PM

I like it! U should write an article for Canespace?

UMike too? Don't forget buddy!

86Cane

Dude had ice water in dem veins.

Posted by: HerbieIbis | May 16, 2020 at 07:18 PM

So this is where I am at with Walsh:

He didn't have the strongest arm.

He wasn't very athletic or elusive.

He was not the most charasmatic dude.

But they played to his strengths, allowed him to stay within his abilities and he led and he won. And won like crazy with the players he had around him.

It is not like we have never seen this before. Been there, done that. Bernie was basically the same but a bit more of a firey leader. He never had the arm that Testaverde or Torretta had.

This is the model we should have been trying to re-create over the last DECADE with our just slightly above or below QBs. But our coaches and coordinators just could never get it, could they?

HerbieIbis

Vanover got pasted, decleated and vaporized by Barrow. Don't think he was ever the same

86Cane

Argue with this list!

25. Andre Johnson
24. Jonathan Vilma
23. Frank Gore
22. Bryant McKinnie
21. Reggie Wayne
20. Warren Sapp
19. Greg Olsen
18. Jeremy Shockey
17. Ken Dorsey
16. Jim Kelly
15. Steve Walsh
14. Gino Torretta
13. Dan Morgan
12. Cortez Kennedy
11. Michael Irvin
10. Willis McGahee
9. Bernie Kosar
8. Clinton Portis
7. Edgerrin James
6. Russell Maryland
5. Jerome Brown
4. Ray Lewis
3. Vinny Testaverde
2. Ed Reed
1. Sean Taylor

AeroCane

With 86’s top 25
Who could cover our receivers?
Who could tackle/catch our RB’s?
What receiver would want to go deep with reed and Taylor?
Who could run against us with our front 7?
What receiver would want to try going over the middle? Laughable - our LB would crush them!
What mismatches with our TE’s?
WOW
Great top 25 86!
I keep that exact list with 4 changes:
I switch Vinny with Jim Kelly
I replace Greg Olson with Ted Hendricks
I replace gore with oj Anderson
I replace Reggie Wayne with Eddie brown
JMO

86Cane

Great top 25 86!
I keep that exact list with 4 changes:
I switch Vinny with Jim Kelly
I replace Greg Olson with Ted Hendricks
I replace gore with oj Anderson
I replace Reggie Wayne with Eddie brown
JMO

Posted by: AeroCane | May 16, 2020 at 11:44 PM

I can lose Olsen for Hendricks.

Gore vs OJ is a toss up.

No way I lose Wayne for Brown. #NFL

Other than that I am good.

86Cane

We all know our top 25 could beat anybody else's top 25 any day of the week and twice on Saturday!

TonyCane

Let him. We have Tyler Van Dominant waiting in the wings.

4-Real

Boring

pb

Posted by: 86Cane | May 16, 2020 at 11:20 PM

You should ban yourself for 48 hours for having Bernie so woefully low.

That's all I have to say sir.

pb

Boring

Posted by: 4-Real | May 17, 2020 at 10:25 AM

Then leave.

86Cane

You should ban yourself for 48 hours for having Bernie so woefully low.

That's all I have to say sir.

Posted by: pb | May 17, 2020 at 10:47 AM

Ranking him at #9 is woefully low? Being in the top 10 of top 25 players is woefully low?

Seriously?

86Cane

Boring

Posted by: 4-Real | May 17, 2020 at 10:25 AM

Don't be a complainer.

Be a problem solver.

What would you suggest instead?

raizecane

Its so hard to pick top 10 as there were so many ........ would love to see a few current canes make this list in a few years ....

HerbieIbis

4-real,
U hadn't been around in like forever.

QB's dropping like flies, that Miami was after. 3 more this weekend off the board. Davis commits to Auburn this morning.
Unless they can get Milroe to flip from Texas or some late bloomer, it looks like the portal again.

86Cane

There are really so many ways to rank players. Here are just a few criteria that popped into mind:

Most talented
Greatest contribution to UM
Games won
Championships won
NFL career
Biggest hits
All Americans
All Conference
Award Winners

58 Straight

Boring

Posted by: 4-Real | May 17, 2020 at 10:25 AM

Don't be a complainer.

Be a problem solver.

What would you suggest instead?

Posted by: 86Cane | May 17, 2020 at 11:19 AM

Just like I thought: Worthless.

AeroCane

Anybody read the free article on Inside the U about ‘speed kills’ and it goes thru position by position
Any thoughts?
I wasn’t overly impressed but they didn’t compare it to other similar positions at other schools, so who knows.
Be well my Cane friends

86Cane

I reworked the order of my top 25 list. Tell me what you think?

25. Andre Johnson
24. Jonathan Vilma
23. Frank Gore
22. Bryant McKinnie
21. Reggie Wayne
20. Michael Irvin
19. Greg Olsen
18. Jeremy Shockey
17. Ken Dorsey
16. Vinny Testaverde
15. Steve Walsh
14. Gino Torretta
13. Dan Morgan
12. Cortez Kennedy
11. Warren Sapp
10. Willis McGahee
9. Jim Kelly
8. Clinton Portis
7. Edgerrin James
6. Jerome Brown
5. Russell Maryland
4. Ray Lewis
3. Bernie Kosar
2. Ed Reed
1. Sean Taylor

AeroCane

I love it
No one could compete with this group!

HerbieIbis

What no Moss, Hester, Hendrix or Blades?
No Feagles or Baxa?
The legends of flop brothers.
Soup,
I like Bernie but he's a little to high on your list.

HerbieIbis

Aero,
We got speed. Top end speed, might be a little different.
Looks like those last 11 or 12 slots in the recruiting class may be dicey, with adding upper end talent. Have to play this season, to make believers out of these fools. U figure by us going spread we would already have at least 2 to 3 wr's locked in but we have zip.
Last year we already had 4 decomits at WR.

pb

Posted by: 86Cane | May 18, 2020 at 11:23 AM

Now you're talking!

Kosar was the toughest, most clutch, bad ass baller we have ever had at QB.

Without him who knows what happens with this program.

86Cane

What no Moss, Hester, Hendrix or Blades?
No Feagles or Baxa?
The legends of flop brothers.
Soup,
I like Bernie but he's a little to high on your list.

Posted by: HerbieIbis | May 18, 2020 at 02:40 PM

I wanted to ADD Hester but beyond being the best returner in the history of the world he did little else.

Ted Hendricks desrves to be in the top 10 on the list but he played so long ago most people here never saw him play so it is irrelvant to the under 50 crowd.

I agree Bennie Blades deserves to be on the list somewhere in the top 20. Who do I take out to put him in?

86Cane

I know Bernie is ranked too high but I had to try to make pb happy so well there is that! LOL

Bernie and Kelly should probably be flipped? Or Bernie and Dorsey?

HerbieIbis

A name to remember, Ryan Downes, QB at IMG. The kid is just finishing 8th grade. 6'4 and 200 Lb's. Has 3 offers already. Also plays lacrosse.
4.3 GPA.
Miami needs to start sniffing his jock strap now.

Yeah Soup, it is a tough call to pull someone off the list and to think, the last 15 years, aside from Olsen and Calias Campbell, Duke and Hester, there is not much to mention, well one more Wilfork.

58 Straight

Calais Campbell
Duke Johnson
Jaquan Johnson


Good names to consider?

pb

Dude was swag before anyone of us even knew what it was:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA0ftawzoS4

AeroCane

PB
Great video

AeroCane

Per Banda, it appears bubba bolden is ready to go! Great news as IMO he is an upgrade from hall and Carter but those 3 can be very good

IraqiCane

Calais Campbell
Duke Johnson
Jaquan Johnson


Good names to consider?

Posted by: 58 Straight | May 18, 2020 at 09:41 PM

I would say only Calais Campbell.

AeroCane

Iraqi
I agree - duke was wonderful but never showed up in big games and is not top 25
Jaquan - love him but too 25 - nope

IraqiCane

Yes neither Duke Johnson, Jaquan Johnson ever made All-American status, neither was a first round draft pick. and neither has had a stellar NFL career thus far.

IraqiCane

That is great news about Bubba Bolden! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

AeroCane

Per inside the U
Quote from king
Note - if we don’t win, manny is fired! Lol

“The alumni put pressure on the current players and coaches to win and I kind of like that,” King said. “A part of me going there is because I knew it was a must-win this year. We have to do good for everybody to keep their jobs.”

86Cane

Dude was swag before anyone of us even knew what it was.

Posted by: pb | May 19, 2020 at 05:54 AM

Yeah, I guess he was pretty good.

Harry Miller

Ted Hendricks is a must. You young guys missed one of our greatest defensive end of all time. At 6'7
218 lb "The Stork" played in 1966 thru 1968 was two
time all american in 67 & 68 and second team in 66.
I watched him play every game he played in at home.
He should be in the Top 5 in my opinion.

HerbieIbis

I guess that means those last few recruits will be waiting a minute to see if we do win, Enough!
There really are no excuses. We got enough juice. The only question is the interior on defense and the oh line.

86Cane

Hendricks was added at #4 and Bennie Blades added at #19. Frank Gore and Reggie Wayne are out, Olsen moved down to #23 Ray Lewis moved down to #7. Dorsey and Sapp moved UP.

25. Andre Johnson
24. Jonathan Vilma
23. Greg Olsen
22. Bryant McKinnie
21. Willis McGahee
20. Michael Irvin
19. Bennie Blades
18. Jeremy Shockey
17. Clinton Portis
16. Vinny Testaverde
15. Steve Walsh
14. Gino Torretta
13. Dan Morgan
12. Ken Dorsey
11. Cortez Kennedy
10. Warren Sapp
9. Jim Kelly
8. Edgerrin James
7. Ray Lewis
6. Jerome Brown
5. Russell Maryland
4. Ted Hendricks
3. Bernie Kosar
2. Ed Reed
1. Sean Taylor

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