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June 08, 2020

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86Cane

NEW BLOG IS UP!

HerbieIbis

VAN Belle signs with Red Sox.
Takes care of of all our starters.

Herbieibis

Strength coach from Iowa, Chris Doyle canned.
Getting to a point where u have to watch everything u do or say. If coaching wasn't tough enough, how u think walking on egg shells barefoot is going to feel.
Not defending any coach but jeez, coach's will spend more time probably defending themselves and assistant coaches for saying the wrong thing. Cuss a kid out u get fired will be next. Be a lot of coaches in the portal.

HerbieIbis

Soup, the key word is cap, a kid could make. If not, in total agreement. If no cap, then all hell breaks loose.

58 Straight

The Herb believes there will be a cap on amount of money a stud kid can make and that should be across the board.

Believes? BELIEVES?

Child please. Show me the rule and i will believe too. The first time a college player makes more than his coach, well, you know.

AeroCane

Herb I fixed it - lol
Some kids that have come from disadvantage backgrounds and need to make money now may be more inclined to go and play for a sorry azz team like Miami just to get on the field quicker.

TheWordFromTheHerb

#1 The Herb believes there will be a cap on amount of money a stud kid can make and that should be across the board.
There should be performance based money a kid can make.
Do it that way based on performance, then a kid is not cutting his own throat by getting a tude or thinking he is above the team
Got to be a hungry and humble clause.
The one thing u will see an increase is in transfers. It should keep these top kids piling up at the top 5 or 6 schools. Can't make money waiting your turn.
Be hard for Bama to stack 3 five star running backs. Some kids that have come from disadvantage backgrounds and need to make money now may be more inclined to go and play for a sorry azz team like Kansas just to get on the field quicker.
Be nice if u could make extra money by staying in your home state to play.
Does a kid like Jacory Brooks decomit from Bama to come back to his home state. 2021 for Florida and there is only 2 other states, both having to wait until 2023 and that's Cali. and Colo. That will be giving players stipends.
NCAA will have to do something quick.
If I'm a high school kid in Florida, I would be stupid to bolt, especially if all the services are pumping me to be a super star talent.
It's coming down to ships or loot. Can't see a kid going to dead valley, Clemson , SC when he can stay here and break bread.

AeroCane

With that kind of money, you’re now going to have crazy parents pushing their kids from birth so they get their share ie think Todd marinovich- now instead of once in a blue moon, you’ll have it all the time

58 Straight

This will result in the complete collapse of loyalty and integrity and the new paradigm will be about profit and personal player production.

Think about it this way:

Top rated QB and WR#1 are signed by Nike for $3 million each. RB#1 and WR#2 and TE#1 are not signed by anyone.

Who is QB going to throw to ensure his contract? I mean the Nike money contract has incentives right? Completions, catches, yards, TDs just like the NFL does. Money is on the line.

How many times will QB change the play from a run to a pass to WR #1 because they "are on the same (Nike) team". These are not professional athletes ALL getting paid big money in the NFL trying to win a Super Bowl. These are 18 year old kids that now have $3 million dollars in their bank account while their teammates have ZERO.

At $50,000 a year average work salary a person would have to work 60 years to earn $3 million. No incentive to skew the outcomes there.

I predict bad outcomes.

58 Straight

And just remember that the schools who develop the best media contacts and sponsorship connections will now win the recruiting game. Their will be NO team or local city loyalty. All will go to the highest bidder like in an auction. Gonna be all about the Benjamins.

At least the days of recruits saying "Miami is my dream school" will be gone. They will now say "Can Miami make me some cash flow?" Answer BETTER be YES! Because NO means NO, remember that.

You think Nike is looking for a Jerry Rice at Alcorn State to give a multi-million $$$ contract to or looking at Bama, Clemson, LSU, OSU, ND, Michigan, etc for their next big media star who will play for a National Championship and be on National TV every week???

Be honest with yourselves, this is a seismic shift in the recruiting and coaching game. Recruiting visits will not be about "show me your campus, facilties and your city" instead it will be about "So, what sponsors do you have that will sign me to a lucrative contract?"

58 Straight

86
Scary but it may be very true
Potentially disaster for college sports

Posted by: AeroCane | June 16, 2020 at 01:44 PM

The gig is up.

The game is over.

Just remember where you read it first.

roachcane77

We'll come to that bridge, when and if we ever get another 5 star.
Posted by: The Herb | June 16, 2020 at 04:10 PM

You KILL!!!😂🤣😂😂🤣

Old Skool

Tom calls it 'sort of'

Gundy agrees on a change in culture which I presume means 'play nice"

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/06/16/mike-gundy-chuba-hubbard-oklahoma-state-crn-vpx.cnn

Terrance Sullivan

Well With Players Like Mark Pope, Wiggins, Harley, and those underachieving OLineMen Soup we at Miami Hurricanes Don’t have to worry about that! Outta of The 20 Something Blue Chip Recruits That Tony And The Other Recruiting Peeps On Here day we have what we got about 3 that play like it lol smh 🤦‍♂️!

The Herb

We'll come to that bridge, when and if we ever get another 5 star.

AeroCane

86
Scary but it may be very true
Potentially disaster for college sports

roachcane77

I HATE that Johnny 5 star... What an A$$hole!

Old Skool

Bored, looking for something to do. Now you can talk to celebrities on Zoom, for a fee of course.

Cameo, a startup that lets you pay celebrities for personal video messages, now lets users book a 10-minute Zoom call with well-known people. The costliest are former football star Brett Favre for $5,000, ex-NSYNC singer Lance Bass for $1,250 and skateboarder Tony Hawk for $1,000.

$5,000 for Brett Farve?? The call is probably free if you're an FSU coed

86Cane

How coaches, governments (think Mississippi's state flag), and even fans address the black lives matter movement is going to be very important.

Posted by: Old Skool | June 15, 2020 at 04:25 PM

Wait until the players start getting paid via marketing contracts.

1. Day 1: Johnny 5 Star gets a cool $5 million contract with Nike. His picture is all over TV, billboards and all of the Interetseses.

2. Day 10: Johnny 5 Star tells Head Coach that he doesn't want to practice today because he was out partying at South Beach in the club dropping $100s like $1s. Shows up to practice in his brand new Benz and says: "We talking 'bout practice?" Practice?"

Day 13: Offensive line refuses to practice and goes "on strike", not against the Coach but against Johnny five star because they think he is thinks he is more important thsan the team and they get ZERO dollars to protect the $5 Million Dollar Man.

Day 15: Coach X suspends Johnny 5 Star from team for insubordination and behavior detrimental to team rules.

Day 20: Johnny 5 Star's agent (yes, agent while in college) hires a hire powered civil rights attorney to sue Coach X and school for drectly infringing upon and interfering with Johnny 5 star's right to make a living.

Day 25: NCAA reinstates Johnny 5 star to the team over the coach's and University's wishes in fear of a lawsuit.

Day 30: Now the entire team refuses to practice because coach has no authority to suspend players and what the hell, who cares anyway right?

Terrance Sullivan

Actually Manny Job is Safe Regardless The Record In 2020 because Miami will not want to buy him out and hire a New Coach in a Budget Constraint Pandemic Year! Now 2021 Better Be Great Or He Might Be Gone By End Of 2021! I Hope It Works Out I Want Our Canes Program To Get Back To the Top Like the Rest Of U!

Old Skool

This is going to be a very interesting/unusual year in football. Not just due to COVID, I think cultural and political considerations will also impact teams. How coaches, governments (think Mississippi's state flag), and even fans address the black lives matter movement is going to be very important.

Here's a link to a controversy over a shirt Mike Gundy was wearing.

https://tinyurl.com/y7aqxvou

The Herb

That's a fact, he is doing everything possible. The only thing he really lacks, is a very good defensive recruiter. Banda not bad but Rumph, Patke , Baker and Stroud are average at best. I Mean Rumph's good for one good recruit a year. Aside from Huff, all our LB'S are 3 star. McCloud may have been a 4. We need a little more ammo at that position.

roachcane77

I hope he’s successful. I always want canes to be successful. But this time for the sake of a hardworking coach. He’s trying y’all. Best offseason effort I remember from any cane coach.
Posted by: AfriCane | June 15, 2020 at 10:47 AM

Good post AfriCane! I agree 100%.

For ALL of our sakes, I hope he and the team are successful this season! He seems to definitely be putting in the effort.

Let's Go CANES!🙌🏼

AfriCane

Damn! Manny is putting in work. What else can we ask him to do? He’s recruiting great. Killing the portal. Bringing in new coaches. This guy is making the changes he needs to make. I will feel bad for him if he doesn’t win. Because he’s a good coach. And that would mean he gets fired. I hope he’s successful. I always want canes to be successful. But this time for the sake of a hardworking coach. He’s trying y’all. Best offseason effort I remember from any cane coach.

AeroCane

From Inside The U

UM is focusing on three main targets at the quarterback position for this 2021 cycle, all of whom are committed to other programs: USC commit Jake Garcia, Texas commit Jalen Milroe, and LSU commit Garrett Nussmeier.

The Hurricanes are not looking to settle at the quarterback position in this 2021 cycle. Garcia, Milroe, and Nussmeier rank inside the Top 100 of the 247Sports Composite.

58 Straight

Every Year People Wet Their Pants In The Offseason To More Often Than not Pissed Off In The Fall SMH!

Posted by: Terrance M Sullivan | June 14, 2020 at 03:58 PM

This is true. I have had to change my pants numerous times during Spring training after wetting them only to cry in my beer in the parking lot after many a game.

I remember the time where I would NEVER leave a game early. That was soon replaced by I couldn't leave a game soon enough. Seeing the look of PTSD in the faces and eyes of Canes fans at the post game tailgate got really old and prolly took a few years off of my life.

AeroCane

Good points herb
I think our OL will be better! Just coaching alone will improve the line, but adding Jarrid Is huge. IMO
We do need Donaldson to get healthy and get in shape and he can be a force at guard - not sure it will happen though

HerbieIbis

Like The Herb said, paper don't mean nuttin.
Got to have something to get excited about and recruiting is it for the time being.
The product on the field is what counts.
With missing those 11 practices, sum dudes are going to have to learn on the fly.
Might be a little helter skelter to begin with but hey Manny said the Oh ain't that complicated. We should start out the gate 4-0, no ifs ands or buts. We got 3 games to navigate. FSU, UNC and Va Tech, all 3 with their QB's back, well so does Pitt.
If our DT'S finally play above their pay grade, the DEE will be stout.
King has to carry us. We have weapons. Even with a half azz line we should average 35 to 38 a game and even when u have a couple down games and everyone has a couple, we still should score 24 to 28.

AeroCane

Agree TSully
But I will say this: our offensive key coaches are a proven commodity! That is a given!
Defense, I’m not convinced and thought manny should of made defensive coaching changes
And of course our head coach has proven in his 1 year as a head coach as a total incompetent!
But as you say, time will tell but now is time for optimism.
At this point, I’m more looking at recruiting. It’s the only real thing going on now
And of course, college baseball with the draft just happening
(And all good news for the canes)

Terrance M Sullivan

We Won’t Know If The Coaches are Doing There Jobs until This Fall! Every Year People Wet Their Pants In The Offseason To More Ofteb Than not Pissed Off In The Fall SMH! It’s Cool To Be Hopeful And Like the direction it’s headed but until I See Player Development And Good Coaching I will just have a wait and see approach!

AeroCane

Brinson says he’s going to try to help recruit a QB, mainly Jake Garcia
We will see but I agree with roach, we can pick up a great transfer next year if machoda and van dyke aren’t up to the task!
Need some studs on defense now since the O coaches are definitely doing their jobs!

Harry Miller


As you get older you find out life is like a roll of toilet paper, the more you pull out the faster it goes.

roachcane77

A Qb will be another story, unless we can flip Milroe or Garcia other than that it's something under a rock or Portal.
Posted by: HerbieIbis | June 13, 2020 at 08:41 PM

"...or Portal." Manny is the KING of the Portal!
We'll be fine!🙌🏼

HerbieIbis

Hello Mello. NICE! Keep dem Foes or better coming.
Kinchins announcing in July and at the moment he is picked to come to da U.
Say what u want about Manny but the staff is busting azz. Got to put an A-1 product on the field. Things look good on paper but that ain't the field.
UNC is raking the state. Just picked up another 4 star, which gives them 12 or 13.
Got aways to go to overtake them.
Kinchens, Taylor, Collier, Nabors or Alexis, Ishmeal and William's would be a sweet finish.
A Qb will be another story, unless we can flip Milroe or Garcia other than that it's something under a rock or Portal.

58 Straight

REO Speedwagon... perfect SOUP.

Posted by: roachcane77 | June 13, 2020 at 01:18 PM

Roger that.

U gotta roll with the changes!

AeroCane

Inside the U made a nice point - 2 4 star WR and a 4 star TE coming in should help land a QB
Let’s hope

AeroCane

4 star WR Brinson commits to the canes Over Uga, LSU, Alabama and Texas A&M
Another 4 star south Florida kid to the U

roachcane77

Hopefully Brinson will use the DeSantis move to his advantage.
Be SMART Romello!!!💰
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

roachcane77

Things that I never really cared about all of the sudden matter. Trying to get healthy is like climbing Mt. Everest. Oh well it is what it is.
Posted by: HerbieIbis | June 13, 2020 at 12:38 PM

Yeah... for sure. Poor health, and injuries, REALLY take their toll as one ages. Take nothing for granted...

REO Speedwagon... perfect SOUP.

86Cane

Time can be so cruel sometimes... we need to remember to cherish every moment we have, it goes by so fast.

Posted by: roachcane77 | June 13, 2020 at 10:37 AM

Live every moment,

Love every day,

Before you know it,

Your precious time slips away...

HerbieIbis

Hopefully around 7 or so, we will be able to say Hello to Romello.

You are right Roach but I find as I age that I tend to pay attention more to details, than I did when I was younger. I seem to be more grumpier and less patient but that's something I never had much of anyway. Things that I never really cared about all of the sudden matter. Trying to get healthy is like climbing Mt. Everest. Oh well it is what it is.

roachcane77

Here it is, as real as it gets:
https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2019/08/canespace-memories-fran-and-jeanne.html
Posted by: 86Cane | June 12, 2020 at 11:37 PM

Time can be so cruel sometimes... we need to remember to cherish every moment we have, it goes by so fast.

Thanks for sharing that SOUP, & Hang in there Fran!🙌🏼

TonyCane

Meant to say that magazine was put to bed Jan 3.

TonyCane

Agreed, Herb. I think that magazine was put to bed around June 3rd. Basically not counting for the fact that:

- Miami has gone spread, and has the talent to execute
- Miami got a 4 star transfer QB similar in skill set goals certain OU qb
- Miami got a 4 star senior DE in Roche
- Miami ended up with a good recruiting class
- Miami’s OL will be better,just by being a year older
- Miami’s special teams will potentially be better
- Miami’s blue chip ratio is the highest it’s been in 11 years

Yes, all of this clearly equals a 3-5 ACC record.

86Cane

Here it is, as real as it gets:

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2019/08/canespace-memories-fran-and-jeanne.html

86Cane

I here the breaks being slammed on.

Posted by: HerbieIbis | June 12, 2020 at 09:50 PM

God I sure hope so!

HerbieIbis

DeSantis hit on the head when he said "I see where kids from Florida are going to Alabama and Clemson, he went on to say why not stay home and play for anyone of our 3 universities and win a championship in your home state" or something to that effect. Cali and Colo. are the other 2 states that have passed the law but it won't go into effect until 2023. Some of them dudes might rethink those descions to leave the state. I here the breaks being slammed on.

Old Skool

From CNN

College athletes in the state of Florida will be able to profit off their name, image and likeness starting in 2021.

Per lawyer and former sports agent Darren Heitner, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed an NIL bill Friday that will go into effect July 1, 2021.

DeSantis spoke about signing the bill at a press conference at the University of Miami: "This whole issue of student-athletes and being able to receive compensations for their likeness or image is something that's been bubbling to the surface in the last couple years. I viewed it as something that was a matter of fairness."

California became the first state to implement an NIL bill when Gov. Gavin Newsom signed it into law during an appearance on The Shop in September.

The California bill won't go into effect until Jan. 1, 2023, so Florida will be the first state that allows college student-athletes to profit off their name, image and likeness through third-party vendors.

AeroCane

It looks like only 4 guys got drafted - this is great news for cane baseball
Cecconi
McMahon
Zamora
And incoming freshman SS Sammy infante
Brian van belle who is a senior but can come back did not get drafted and can sign as a FA or come back - Dimare said initially van belle has said he will be back to better his draft status
We now have a very talented group of freshmen coming in
Next season should be very good

Harry Miller

Pulling for you Fran. Hang in there, it's harder for us older guys to make a recovery but we can still do it.

KYcane

Hang in there Fran!

AeroCane

Romello Brinson
4 star WR
6-2, 180
Miami northwestern

Chooses tomorrow - Andrew Irvins of ‘inside the U’ has him choosing us with a ‘high’ probability
Let’s hope!

AeroCane

Fran hope u are on your way back, just like The U, together we will rise again.

Posted by: The Herb |

I’ll second this!!

The Herb

Yes sir, Fran is another from way back when.
Fran hope u are on your way back, just like The U, together we will rise again.

DallasTX Cane

Of course remember Fran. It’s good to hear he is doing better. Love to see him back here someday...

86Cane

For those of you who remember...I spoke to Fran from DeBary yesterday. He has had a tough go of it since his wife Jeanne passed away last July. He has had a few falls and broken bones but is finally doing better recently. I told him if he needs anything he has friends nearby who can help out.

#CanespaceFamily

HerbieIbis

Aero, U ain't telling The Herb something new. Coached for 36 years and u are right but most kids drafted in the first 10 rounds are not going to turn down the opportunity.
I think they signed A-Rod right before he was going to his first class.
If it were me, I'm going. To many kids get hurt in college, especially pitchers.

AeroCane

Herb
Baseball is different
They get signing bonuses but then make very little in the minors sbb n s it’s a hard system to go thru (vs getting drafted and you’re in the nfl immediately)
It’s much easier (unless you’re a true ARod type guy) to get a couple years of college in (ie polish and hone your skills), go higher, get a larger signing bonus and get the the majors sooner and therefore start your real earning
And injuries are less likely in baseball than football (although of course they still occur but not at the high rate of football and most come back fairly quickly even if it’s TJ)
JMO

HerbieIbis

Aero,
I don't know about the money MLB is offering for those spots but if u get drafted early u got to go.
Thanks Soup, I knew it was many moons ago.

AeroCane

Here’s hoping all the canes too baseball recruits get drafted well below their value and they enroll at the U!
Same with alex total - hope he stays

86Cane

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2008/06/legends-of-the.html

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2008/06/legends-of-th-1.html

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2008/06/legends-of-th-2.html

86Cane

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2012/08/five-questions-with-canespace-chris-yandle.html

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2012/08/five-questions-with-canespace-chris-freet.html

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2012/08/five-questions-with-canespace-wvum.html

86Cane

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2012/08/five-questions-with-canespace.html

86Cane

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2012/08/five-questions-with-canespace-gary-ferman.html

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2009/04/five-questions-with-ferman.html

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2009/02/five-questions-with-ferman.html

86Cane

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2010/04/five-questions-with-manny-navarro.html

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2010/07/manny-navarro-is-keeping-his-eye-on-the-u.html

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2009/02/manny-navarro-breaks-it-down.html

https://canespace.typepad.com/canespace/2011/08/live-chat-manny-navarro-and-susan-degnan.html

86Cane

Has Ivins or Lake ever been on here to have a question answer session?
Some years back I believe u had some guest come on the blog to answer questions. I think Manuel was one, maybe Pete, as well.

Posted by: HerbieIbis | June 10, 2020 at 07:39 PM

Manny Navarro Miami Herald
Susan Miller-Degnan Miami Herald
Gary Ferman Canesport
Chris Inside The U

Were among the many we had on our chats.

Thoise were the days! Not happening now.

The Herb

Street & Smith picked us 5th in the coastal. Look, The Herb knows we sucked down the stretch but that was then, this is now! Got to be real haters for that idiotic write up. That would have to equate to basically a 3-5 coastal record. That ain't happening, unless we get gutted with numerous injuries.

HerbieIbis

Soup,
Has Ivins or Lake ever been on here to have a question answer session?
Some years back I believe u had some guest come on the blog to answer questions. I think Manuel was one, maybe Pete, as well.
I think Brinson is picking his school tomorrow, either him or Kinchins.

KYcane

Hope you are doing well my friend. Stay safe.

Posted by: 58 Straight | June 10, 2020 at 04:03 PM


"But ah, the stories we could tell
And if it all blows up and goes to Hell"

As the bard from Pascagoula sang

Back at you - give Maria a big hug for me

and check your email

58 Straight

That’s what makes Canespace the cream of the crop

Posted by: KYcane | June 10, 2020 at 04:01 PM

Well, looky there, it's the KY man!

Hope you are doing well my friend. Stay safe.

KYcane

Three quarters of the story is the same thing every day.
Posted by: The Herb | June 10, 2020 at 10:08 AM

Not here

That’s what makes Canespace the cream of the crop

58 Straight

Three quarters of the story is the same thing every day.

Posted by: The Herb | June 10, 2020 at 10:08 AM

That's because they use Google analytics to show what type of info drives traffic and gets the most clicks and they keep regurgitating the same thing over and over because it is what they think the masses want.

The Herb

Well, I'm on the other side of the plantar fascia surgery. 6:00 is a nice wake up.
I like reading articles on 247 sports but dam every story they think they have to say the same things over and over. Everybody they talk about, especially King, they have to say how many yards he's passed for and touch downs, Roche they give his stats. Everybody the get as a recruit, they then have to list everyone we got.
Three quarters of the story is the same thing every day.

58 Straight

Cane FAMILY!🙌🏼

Posted by: roachcane77 | June 09, 2020 at 09:56 AM

There IT is right there.

58 Straight

First and it feels goood!

Posted by: Herbieibis | June 08, 2020 at 10:50 PM

TWSS

YooperCane

Damn, that got me all jacked up! Dem Canes bruh!

roachcane77

Cane FAMILY!🙌🏼

That's what it's all about... Start 'em young.

Our daughter could have gone to ANY college in the country with her grades and scores... but only applied to ONE.

She was accepted, and graduated from THE U! 🙌🏼 (Like her old man.)

Cane FAMILY!🙌🏼

Let's Go CANES!🙌🏼

The Herb

I wonder if he delivered any future players.
Can u imagine being in college for 12 years. Be nice to have the cabbage to do it!

DallasTX Cane

Tres.

Great article. Thanks 86

AeroCane

Nice article- thx

Herbieibis

First and it feels goood!

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