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December 16, 2020

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JCane

What can Borregalas do to improve his resume? Nothing that I can see. Plus, he's opening the spot for his kid brother. I don't see the rush for Nesta, but I'm not Nesta..

CGNC

Doesn't sound like Phillips will play in the bowl game either

86Cane

Agree 100% on Borregales leaving. He's ready.

Nesta? Nope. Watch the UNC tape.

Phillips? Maybe 2-3 round?

Remember that OGV always says it is the coaches job to re-recruit the players to stay and help the team and improve their draft status. But it seems like those days are becoming a thing of the past with today's players.

nemo2020

Phillip's gone.
Posted by: The Herb | December 18, 2020 at 09:23 PM

Borregalas not coming back and maybe Nesta as well.
Posted by: 305 Prohfit | December 18, 2020 at 11:04 PM

Don't expect any of our NFL wannabes to play in the (soon to be announced) Crappy Bowl game.
Why would they? Why bother?
Add D'E King to the list of Crappy Bowl "opt outs", if he leaves too.
Pandemic surge! Financial issues. Best players won't play. Crappy Bowl? Hey UM, why bother?

86Cane

Crappy Bowl? Hey UM, why bother?

Posted by: nemo2020 | December 19, 2020 at 11:09 AM

So what I get is that Nemo is really interested in and supportive of UM playing in a bowl game this year. Did I get that correct?

86Cane

California transfer Jake Garcia and Grayson (Loganville) are headed to the Georgia AAAAAAA high school football championship on a roll. The fourth-ranked Rams blanked No. 16 Norcross 28-0 on Friday, dominating the Blue Devils on both sides of the ball.

Grayson looks for its third state title Dec. 30 against Collins Hill (Suwanee), 31-14 winners over Lowndes (Valdosta). The Rams have shutout three of four postseason opponents, allowing a grand total of six points in those contests.

Garcia, whose journey started on the West Coast and featured a stop at Valdosta before being declared ineligible led him to Grayson, showed mettle in going 10 of 20 passing for 199 yards, two scores and two interceptions.

While the Miami commit consistently made clutch throws, a Rams rushing attack minus Clemson-bound Phil Mafah (ankle injury) punished the Norcross defense between the hashes on a soggy turf. Joseph Taylor ran for 61 yards on 14 carries and a score while Sean Downer added 58 yards and a 10-yard TD on the same number of touches.

Grayson extended its lead to 21-0 in the third period on an 11-play, 79-yard drive that featured Garcia showing why he's the real deal. Twice he converted 20-plus yard completions on third and long to extend the drive before hitting Jaden Smith on a 25-yard TD strike. The Rams spent much of the fourth quarter chewing clock on the ground as Downer found the end zone late in the game from 10 yards out.

roachcane77

But it seems like those days are becoming a thing of the past with today's players.
Posted by: 86Cane | December 19, 2020 at 11:02 AM

Yeah... only need to look at Ohio State's running back Sermon... (Oklahoma transfer.)

The game as we remember it is gone.

Players moving from team-to-team regardless of rivalries... not having to sit out a year most times... This is now the NFL minor leagues with players offering themselves up as free agents... OR just opting out at ANY POINT in the season and declaring for the draft...

No matter HOW much The U has benefitted from the portal, (D'King, Phillips... ) it's STILL weird to me. (High School football is also going the same route... transferring schools for a sport is pretty much the norm now, where it was once against the rules and taboo.)

On a completely DIFFERENT note... The U needs some changes in coaching... PRONTO!🙌🏼

nemo2020

Crappy Bowl? Hey UM, why bother?

Posted by: nemo2020 | December 19, 2020 at 11:09 AM

So what I get is that Nemo is really interested in and supportive of UM playing in a bowl game this year. Did I get that correct?

Posted by: 86Cane | December 19, 2020 at 11:56 AM

Let's put it like this: "I don't know how anyone could possibly be any more enthused."

Understand? Stay well!

NEMO

The Herb

So we got Bama right out the gate in 21. Oh well, hope Jones heads out. Most of their defense is back. Their moving at will against Florida.
Manny better hope King comes back and does something about sum of those Dee coaches or we may have a duplication of the UNC game. Won't be able to use the mentally exhausted excuse.

nemo2020

Teams that opted out of bowl games: Boston College, Pittsburgh, Virginia, Stanford, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Kansas State, San Diego State, UCLA, Louisville, Washington State, Florida State, Utah, Washington, USC, Minnesota, Penn State, LSU (self-imposed bowl ban).

58 Straight

Won't be able to use the mentally exhausted excuse.

Posted by: The Herb | December 19, 2020 at 10:03 PM

But I really like that excuse, it was so convenient.

58 Straight

Nemo...I have no idea why you must insist on Miami playing in a crappy bowl game when all those other teams have opted out?

AeroCane

Chan galley is one bad, unimaginative OC! I’m still In shock Flores hired him; so many young, energetic and imaginative OC’s available
Oh well

roachcane77

It’s official. Miami is headed back to Orlando to play in the Cheez-It Bowl, formerly known as the Citrus Bowl, Champs Sports Bowl and Russell Athletic Bowl, to play Oklahoma State (7-3) on December 29th at 5:30 p.m. ESPN.

toledocane

I'm having knee replacement surgery 12/29 @ 2:30pm (it's been scheduled for 2 months)... God was looking out for me....

alpine

DOLPHINS!!!!!
so much bad luck in this game, but they took care of the pats anyway . . . and knocked the pats out of the playoff race!

FINally!

58 Straight

Miami is headed back to Orlando to play in the Cheez-It Bowl, formerly known as the Citrus Bowl, Champs Sports Bowl and Russell Athletic Bowl, to play Oklahoma State (7-3) on December 29th at 5:30 p.m. ESPN.

Posted by: roachcane77 | December 20, 2020 at 03:42 PM

Nemo is going to be pissed that the Canes are playing in such a "cheezy" bowl game.

I am just hoping that OSU doesn't drop half a hundred on Miami.

58 Straight

FINally!

Posted by: alpine | December 20, 2020 at 04:10 PM

I have to admit that win was impressive.

I was against the Tua pick but I was wrong.

AeroCane

58
They will - I think this D has checked out on Blake and if they hadn’t, I think Phillips MAY of stayed for the bowl game
I know I’m so not excited for this game - heck I’m not excited for next season UNLESS baker and rumph are gone! (Patke also, but I’ll take baker and rumph)

The Herb

Well the same chairs at the table don't change much. If things don't change, it's going to be the same 4 to 6 teams every year. Bama, OSU, Clemson, Oakl and Georgia. The revolving door starts at 6.
Notre Dame will get the brakes beat off them and Clemson will beat down OSU.
U can about look at the recruiting rankings and that will tell u who likely will be the top 6 at the end of the year.

The Toast Of  The Coast

At 3-7 Tenn. is playing WVU in a bowl game. WTF, that idiot Pruitt excepting a bowl game when his program is under investigation for recruiting irregularities, not even counting the pandemic.

nemo2020

It’s official. Miami is headed back to Orlando to play in the Crappy Bowl of Cheez-It Bowl, originally known as the Tangerine Bowl (aka the Wannabe Orange Bowl), and more recently known as the Crappy Citrus Bowl, the Champs Crappy Sports Bowl, and the Russell Whatever Bowl. UM plays Oklahoma State (7-3) on December 29th at 5:30 p.m. before an expected crowd of tens of loyal UM fans who will travel to see the game live in Orlando. For the rest of us it will shown on ESPN.
All kidding aside, I'm glad we're staying in Florida!
Someone ought to say to Manny Diaz what John Rambo said to Col. Troutman at the beginning of Rambo: First Blood Part II? "“Sir, do we get to win this time?”

58 Straight

U can about look at the recruiting rankings and that will tell u who likely will be the top 6 at the end of the year.

Posted by: The Herb | December 20, 2020 at 07:13 PM

Eeven the experienced ESPN announcers today said that this was KILLING college football. And it is. And it will. Forget recruiting and transfers, once they start paying the players it will all be over.

nemo2020

Roche declares for the NFL draft. He is not going to play in the bowl game.

Here's our new mantra:
"Next man out."

HerbieIbis

Well with Phillip's and Roche not playing in the bowl, who's going to set the edge, oh I forgot we have no one after watching the UNC game. We don't teach that trick.

Old Skool

Five days and counting

roachcane77

Here's our new mantra:
"Next man out."
Posted by: nemo2020 | December 20, 2020 at 11:08 PM

😂😂😭😭😖😖😤😤😳

The Toast Of The Coast

There is no loyalty, once these players start to see the light at the end of the tunnel! The work ethic is gone. Their sense of team, is gone. It is now time for me, mine and I. Those that are sure fire early picks, I somewhat get. No point in risking injury for something meaningless but you be there until the job is complete.
That is college football now. The NCAA gave the players the keys to the car and said skip the drivers education part.

58 Straight

Five days and counting

Posted by: Old Skool | December 21, 2020 at 07:28 AM

Well played Sir!

58 Straight

The NCAA gave the players the keys to the car and said skip the drivers education part.

Posted by: The Toast Of The Coast | December 21, 2020 at 09:58 AM

There IT is right there.

58 Straight

With the early signing period wrapping up on Friday, there is still one key position of need that the Miami Hurricanes would like to address by the end of the traditional signing day in February.

Cornerback.

Miami signed three-star cornerback Malik Curtis, who has the speed and ball skills the Hurricanes desire at the cornerback position. But with that being said, the Hurricanes currently only have five cornerbacks on the UM roster.

UM director of player personnel, Andy Vaughn, made it clear on Thursday that the Hurricanes will be scouring for cornerbacks over the next six weeks.

“We would like to look into the cornerback market,” Vaughn said. “We missed a little bit. We got a good one in Malik Curtis, but we are always looking to get some more depth at that position.”

As things stand on Friday afternoon, the Hurricanes have signed 21 players in the class of 2021. Miami is operating under the guideline of being able to add three more players—whether that is transfers or high school signees—due to the NCAA counter rule of being able to add 25 players to a roster per year (Miami counted Houston offensive tackle transfer Jarrid Williams forward for the 2021 cycle, which is why Miami is working from the 24 counter number).

Vaughn shared what characteristics Miami is looking for at the cornerback position.

“We do have some guidelines that is kind of a range for height and speed, but we are really looking for guys that have that mentality—the dog mentality—or a guy that is not afraid and has a short memory,” Vaughn said.

“That is a tough position to play in football with the way offenses are now in college football. A guy that is mentally tough and if physical. A guy that can run and has some twitch to him.”

Vaughn made it clear that Miami isn’t going to be locked into looking for corners that have what is considered the prototypical size.

“If the size is not what the experts says it should be for a corner, then we are looking at those intangibles like what type of person they are and their mentality,” Vaughn said.

58 Straight

Potential Portal Transfers at DE.

This is for Herb and CGNC EYES ONLY:

Drew Jordan

School: Duke

Class: Senior

Size: 6-2, 270

Experience: 21 starts, 1,869 defensive snaps

Career Stats: 99 tackles, 13 tackles for loss, and nine sacks.

Jordan is a talented player that has played a ton of football in his career. He may not be the most dynamic pass rusher, but Jordan has shown the ability to be effective at setting the edge and defending the run. Coming out of high school, Jordan was regarded as a four-star recruit, according to the industry generated 247Sports Composite.

58 Straight

DE Tre Williams

School: Missouri

Class: Senior

Size: 6-5, 260

Experience: 19 starts, 1,402 defensive snaps

Career Stats: 85 tackles, 14.5 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks.

Williams has the length Miami wants at the edge position along with plenty of experience playing at the SEC level. Williams is another edge player that doesn’t necessarily pack much pass rushing punch, but he is a veteran that could definitely lead by example and help set the edge when defending the run. For his career, Williams is averaging a quarterback pressure for every 10.8 pass rushing snaps, which is a respectable rate.

The Herb

No to both. We can do better.

58 Straight

But Herb...they both can "set the edge"!

CGNC

You would think that with that awful showing against UNC Phillips and Roche would want to play in another game, even if it is in Orlando. And if the players don't like playing in a lower bowl...PLAY BETTER. T

CGNC

86 and Alpine, I missed the Fins game yesterday because Hulu dropped the CBS affiliate in my area. If they don't add it back soon, will probably switch to youtubetv. I wanted Burrows instead but the Fins were unable to trade up for him. From what I have seen of Tua, this year, I like him.

86Cane

The NCAA is a perpetually and consistently reactionary organization. As reliably as its infractions cases move at a glacial speed and its press conference moderators use the term “student-athletes,” the NCAA acts on major items only by circumstantial gunpoint.

As hats were picked, silly videos released and classes filled on the start of the national signing period on Wednesday, coaches expressed concern about the NCAA’s next inevitable oversight and delayed reaction.

An unprecedented confluence of events — the bloated NCAA transfer portal, a blanket extra year granted because of COVID-19 and the expected one-time transfer rule — threatens scholarship opportunities for football players and will eventually undermine the ability for coaches to keep full rosters.

“We’re going to see a situation this year where there could be up to 1,000 players in the portal with nowhere to go,” said South Florida coach Jeff Scott.

How will that happen? As of Wednesday morning, there were more than 750 FBS football players in the NCAA transfer portal. That number is increasing by dozens each day, and will only get bigger with the end of the semester. The players are looking to take advantage of the NCAA’s one-time transfer rule, which is expected to be passed early next year.

But that giant number comes with a jarring reality that has some coaches startled. The NCAA’s ruling this summer to give all fall athletes staying at their school an extra year of eligibility is going to expand rosters past the 85-man roster limit for next season. That will limit places transfers can go. (As of now, there’s a one-year waiver to go beyond 85 in 2021.)

The seniors returning for an extra year are going to limit opportunities for younger players within the program, which will mean even more transferring. Also, the one-time transfer rule is expected to lead to a flurry of Group of Five transfers looking to upgrade to bigger schools.

All of this action flowing into the NCAA transfer portal, however, is constrained by some rules that have coaches and administrators projecting a limit on opportunity.

There are three limits that coaches need to worry about. The first is 85 scholarships, which is easy.

The rest requires an accounting degree and reads like something from a scientific journal, as football is the only sport that limits the numbers of players who can be signed each year. There’s a limit of 25 “initial counters” in a recruiting cycle, which is a complicated metric that can be manipulated by back-counting, blueshirting and other methods.

What’s in the crosshairs here is different. It’s the 25-player annual signing limit more commonly referred to as “hard cap.” The hard cap is a limit of 25 players from Aug. 1 through July 31, whereas the “initial counter” limit is per recruiting class.

The influx of available/transferring players and no extra scholarship slots because of the “hard cap” creates a predictable logjam that has some worried the NCAA has no answers for.

A compliance source backs up Scott’s projection and said there “easily” could be 1,000 players left without scholarships. That would be a nightmare for the NCAA, if logistics limited opportunity.

“I do think there are a lot of guys who’ll end up holding the bag without a place to go,” said Rivals.com Southeast recruiting analyst Woody Wommack. “You have the class of 2021 signing, the most transfers ever and a senior class that isn’t going anywhere. That’s made it really cloudy.”

The scary part of a player going into the portal is that they essentially give up their scholarship at their current school once they enter, which means players could end up dropping levels or not playing at all because of lack of opportunity. Not all players fully understand that risk. Scott points out that while coaches can monitor the portal for players, players lack a realtime dashboard of which schools have what amount of availability on their roster. There’s no available statistical indicator of how limited spots are, which leads to bad decisions.

What are the ripples of the roster logjam? One Group of Five head coach pointed out two potential reverberations. He said that the real roster issues are going to come in 2022, as the exemption to be over 85 scholarship players is expected to be gone, but a majority of the roster still has an extra year. That’s going to potentially limit the amount of high school players in the class of 2022.

“What 2022 looks like is crazy,” the Group of Five head coach said. “Now that you have to get under the 85 threshold, it’s a scramble. What can you bring in in 2022? That’s a problem.

“If your son is in high school and he has a 2022 scholarship offer, he should commit right now.”

VfB_Cane

Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame and Oklahoma have combined to take 20 out of 28 possible spots since the playoff began in 2014.

It's going to be near impossible for any outsider to take the spot of one these teams as long as teh rules are what they are.

However, winning the ACC Coastal at least every other year is another thing. Solid recruiting classes, methodical player development and proper game day coaching would have done in any of the past 10 years.

Fix it - then we can start to worry about a system that is built to make the rich richer.

BTW, a good one from Greg Cote:
Question: "Is Miami back?"
Answer: "Cheez-it Bowl"

alpine

Posted by: CGNC | December 21, 2020 at 01:09 PM

yep, worth the switch away from hulu
. . . it's not just about tua; flores is the real deal and i LOVE what he gets out of his teams!

fins had their top 4 somethings (yards-masters?) out + a number of others; they also ran into some bad football luck (defensive TD called back because of a small touch by a player with a foot partially out of bounds; tua making his one bad pass right as he's hit = interception at the 2 yd. line; a missed field goal by someone who doesn't miss; a player missing an interception, which also kept it out of our star CB's hands right behind him; . . .) and game-plan-wise the fins still found a will and a way to conquer their nemesis

they are a fun team to watch right now and it feels so good to say that for the 2nd year IN DECEMBER, which has been the kryptonite month for my football teams for years, decades, centuries (well, feeling-wise)

alpine

i will be watching the canes bowl game
. . . but i am still a bit in shock at that NC game and am wondering how the particular team that i had been watching this year, which seemed to play much "guttier" when the chips were down, simply melted away like the snow in spring

i really want them to play like they're capable
. . . and of course, win

alpine

Posted by: 86Cane | December 21, 2020 at 03:22 PM

thanks for posting
. . . i learned something

Killerbeez41

Fix it - then we can start to worry about a system that is built to make the rich richer.

BTW, a good one from Greg Cote:
Question: "Is Miami back?"
Answer: "Cheez-it Bowl"

Posted by: VfB_Cane | December 21, 2020 at 05:23 PM

Preach brother.

Nobody likes Miami, it's crazy! Seems like the powers to be don't want to see us on top. It just seems like we could be undefeated and they would find a way to snub us.

86Cane, you are the man, love some of your posts.

Killerbeez41

On the coaching thing, I don't know about a complete overhaul of defensive coaches. How many times did our DBs get thrashed, not often. So even though Rumph has haters, the man is producing solid corners. It's not JUST his job to recruit corners either. The LBs (insert meme) on the other hand didn't look that great. But we lost some DOGS last year...JS. I don't think Blake Baker sucks, the ONLY game where I was like "WTF" was UNC. If you know football, the kids were in position to make plays every game, except UNC.

TonyCane

Here’s the Catch-22. Change the regime and literally everyone could transfer the following day with no penalty.

HerbieIbis

LSU dumps Pellni after one year as Dee Coordinator, what are we waiting on.

Killerbeez,
I agree that Rumph is not a bad coach but it ain't elite either. Part of the dudes job is to recruit, especially the type of players he wants to coach. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but what might look good to u, doesn't to me.
I wouldn't want someone else recruiting players for me that I haven't seen and telling me to work my magic. The dude is a complete zero as a recruiter and therefore, although a descent coach, should be canned because of his recruiting ability. We can find someone who can do both.
You never hear recruits saying coach Rumph is my guy and why is that, look no further than our recruiting class, we have no one, unless u want to call Curtis a CB recruit.
As far as us getting snubbed, when u stink the joint up for 19 years, losing to teams that shouldn't be on the field with u and then getting blown out against talented teams, the u ask and u shall receive.
Look at poor Army, 9-2 & as of right now mo bowl game. Their putting teams in with losing records but won't find them a bowl. The NCAA is a joke! The whole system is a joke. They might as well go ahead before the season starts and say these are 6 teams who will be part of the selection process for the final 4. If one of them stumbles we'll take the highest ranked team at the end of the year. OSU already has 5 of the top 11 players in the 22 class verballed, last time I checked. Something has to change, especially in recruiting. These 5 or 6 teams that are getting the lions share of the top players will continually rule college football and everybody else will be just after thoughts!

86Cane

Change the regime and literally everyone could transfer the following day with no penalty.

Posted by: TonyCane | December 21, 2020 at 06:49 PM

That could be said for EVERY team.

Not gonna happenand U know it!

86Cane

86Cane, you are the man, love some of your posts.

Posted by: Killerbeez41 | December 21, 2020 at 05:40 PM

TWSS

86Cane

Anybody watching Cincy vs Pitt on NFL tonight tell me that play calling doesn't matter.

nemo2020

100 posts for U.

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